Hate Watching Marty Supreme: We Could Play Ping Pong

Marty Supreme looks like a prestige movie, sounds like three different movies at once, and plays like a sports film that refuses to give you the one thing you came for: a reason to care who wins. We walk through the plot beat by beat, then stop and argue about why it feels so strange when the directing and performances seem competent, yet the story keeps slipping out of our hands.

We get into the loud, anachronistic soundtrack choices (80s and 90s thriller cues crashing into a 1950s table tennis world), the missing “training and redemption” architecture that most sports movies rely on, and the core issue that never goes away: Marty is written as a guy who charms everyone, but the movie rarely shows the charm on screen. Along the way we hit the money logic that never adds up, the Globetrotters detour, the dog hustle spiral, and the moments that should create consequences but get brushed past.

Then we land on the ending, including a reported early draft twist that could explain a lot: a cut vampire ending tied to the 80s music. Whether that’s real or just Hollywood legend, it gives us one more angle to test what Marty Supreme is trying to say about ambition, ego, and exploitation.

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Transcript

Nicknames And Waking Up The Energy

SPEAKER_05 0:00

My nicknames are Just Dan and Hambo Hambone.

SPEAKER_02 0:04

Ham bone? I don't understand that. One of my nicknames, Ham Bone. It's cause you like uh bone in ham or no, no. I think I just I think I just uh gave myself that moniker. Okay, god. I don't know if that counts as a nickname then.

SPEAKER_04 0:35

Welcome to Hate Watching with Dan and Tony. It's a little earlier today, so I'm not being as loud as possible, and I'm dead.

SPEAKER_02 0:41

Oh boy. You know what? The energy's out the window. We gotta we gotta cut the show. We gotta stop. We gotta stop. We're starting over. Shannon's Shannon's dragging us down already. All right. Just let loose. That's right. Don't try to be polite. You gotta let loose.

SPEAKER_05 0:54

Are you ragging on Shannon?

SPEAKER_02 0:56

Don't you know of course I'm not. Don't ever get us both hit. That's it. We're both dead. She's got us. I apologize, Dan. I've done this to us. All right, P. Who are you? Oh, um, my name's Tony. Nice to meet you all.

SPEAKER_05 1:12

Just Tony. Um speaking of nicknames, you you never had any real nicknames, Tony?

SPEAKER_02 1:19

Um, so my nicknames would be T-Bone, you know, obviously. We we call you we call you T-Bone all the time. See, right? T-Bone, and then uh Chiswick, Tony Chiswick. A buddy of mine in high school refused to say my name correctly, and so he just decided just to forever say it Chiswick, and it kind of stuck. I don't know. I still don't know how to say your name. I know nobody does, and everyone calls me Chick, which is fine. Like I accept uh it's Zek, obviously, but I accept Check as well. So he was like, Well, I'm gonna combine them and I'll call you Chisek. So there it is. Um he beat me.

SPEAKER_05 2:01

So my nicknames were uh Wiz Wizz is our uh Hambone and uh just Ann.

SPEAKER_02 2:07

This hand bone thing is just you can start calling me hand bone.

SPEAKER_05 2:11

I don't know how much you know Hambone and Tony, Tony and Hambone Hambone here tea and ham.

SPEAKER_02 2:18

That's what we'll call it, tea and ham.

SPEAKER_05 2:21

It's funny, I listen I listened to another podcast where the guy's name is hand bone.

SPEAKER_04 2:24

I hadn't thought about that.

SPEAKER_02 2:26

His real is not his real name though. No, it's a characterized. That's what he yeah. Yeah, huh? Interesting. I hadn't thought about it. I don't just I just don't maybe I don't know what a ham bone is, other than what I put in soup. Yeah, that's what a ham bone is. Okay, so you just like soup? Are you a soup guy?

unknown 2:44

No.

SPEAKER_02 2:44

You have like a nice white bean soup? That's what I put my hand bones in, just to give a little flavor.

SPEAKER_05 2:50

Oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_02 2:51

Um, Tony, what what do we do on this show? Uh whoa, this is not my job. On this show, we take a look at movies from the present and the past and dissect them only the way two idiots could. Granularly. I don't know that word, so I can't use it in my description.

SPEAKER_05 3:11

Well, a grain is like a small part of something larger. Yeah, like a grain of sand. So when you look at the when you look at the you know, there's the beach, but then there's the grain of sand. So that means you're you're focusing in on tiny, insignificant things.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

And that is why I don't like the beach, because of those tiny grains of sand that get all over me.

SPEAKER_05 3:32

Oh, you and I yes, I I do not like the feeling of of very dry sand on my feet. Don't care for it. No, it's the worst.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

Yeah, that's awful. I hate it.

SPEAKER_05 3:42

Um, Tony, I think you picked the movie that we're doing this week, didn't you?

SPEAKER_02 3:47

I have honestly, I have absolutely no idea. I'll I'm gonna introduce it though, either way.

SPEAKER_05 3:52

Who picked uh I picked it. I picked the movie. Because you did because we did balls up last week. We did oh the movie we did was Marty Supreme.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

We're not allowed to do the show this early. We're we're all over the pitch here.

SPEAKER_05 4:09

We're talking about Marty Supreme, 2025, two hours 29 minutes with maybe six minutes of credits. Not not a lot.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

Like we're we're stretching that 230 as as close as we can.

SPEAKER_05 4:21

Yeah, they they want to get as much of that the safty boys, they wanted to get it up there on the screen and show you every aspect of what it takes to try to make the money, to pay back the money, to get the money, to do it.

SPEAKER_02 4:38

They did not want to show you how to play ping pong. I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_05 4:42

Um now I'm conflicted on this movie. I I didn't like it, of course. Um but it it seemed like it was a well-directed movie. It seemed like it was a well-acted movie, well-lit movie, the camera. Yeah, it looks nice. Seemed like it did things, you know. But then they did some stuff. Then they made a bunch of decisions. That one of them was a script.

SPEAKER_03 5:07

Sure, sure.

SPEAKER_05 5:08

One of them was the music, which I've been I was I've gone through the Rotten Tomatoes, and I haven't seen one per reviews, and I haven't seen one person mention the music. They say that the music is very loud at times, but this whoever put this music together was his.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

That actually makes me happy, by the way, because so we've been having soundbar issues, so we're thinking about replacing our soundbar. Sometimes it feels like our dialogue is is muffled, you know, so like the music's too loud, and then we have to turn it up, and then it's just a whole thing. And that happened with this movie, and I was like, man, I hate this sound bar, but maybe it's not entirely my fault. No, maybe it's part sound bar, part movie mix. So that that actually makes me a little bit happy. Thank you, person on Rotten Tomatoes, for make it my day.

SPEAKER_05 5:51

Because this this movie has at times it has old-timey music because it's set in the 50s, right? Which is appropriate. It has 80s thriller music, not appropriate, it has 90s thriller music, less appropriate, yep. And it has has 80s jacked up songs that you sort of jacked with.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

Yeah, yeah. I you vibe with it. So, and here's my thing. Uh, unrelated to the movie, I very much like the soundtrack. Like these a lot of these are music that I would listen to and enjoy, but it's very weird with the movie because all most of it hasn't even been made yet. And I don't I know that I that shouldn't bother me as much as it does, but it does. It does bother me. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 6:38

Well, if they'd have picked a thing and said, like, okay, this whole movie is gonna be 80s rockin', you know, rockin' pop, but set in the 20s or whatever. Yeah, I still I still wouldn't have liked it. I I still would have thought it was dumb. It would have an identity, there would be a consistency to it. This movie, yeah. You know, sometimes they they blare up this like 80s thriller music or 90s thriller music, which is different.

SPEAKER_03 7:03

It sure is, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:04

You're just like, what is happening? Why are we doing this? Why have we made this decision?

SPEAKER_02 7:10

I didn't make the decision, I'll tell you that, because that it's a weird if you're in the post house and maybe he was just like on iPod shuffle mode and just randomly was like, Okay, this is fun, and next, next, next, this one's fun. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 7:28

Do you want to give some quick overviews of the acting?

SPEAKER_02 7:32

Uh I thought it was acted well. I so here's my thing about Timothy Shanama. Um, I think we talked about this last week when we were talking about the movie, as I don't think I've seen much with him in it, and we realized that he's in the asteroid movie. Yeah, he was fine in that. Yeah, yeah, he wasn't uh the the bad part of the movie. So that's good. Um, but that's kind of it, and so I wasn't totally sure. And I know you know these Dune movies that you love to talk about, he plays probably like a very serious, dry character. Um and so this was interesting for me because I thought he did a decent job. I don't think he did a wonderful job.

SPEAKER_07 8:22

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 8:23

Um, I think he plays the character very well, right? But it's an unlikable character. And then my thing is somehow he charms everybody, right? Like these women are just head over heels in love with him. I was never charmed by him. He charm he charms everyone, but he is never charming, right? And so that's a problem, right? And I don't know if it's the writing or if it's his acting is somehow charmless. I don't know. And I don't want people to come for me. I'm not saying Timothy Chalamet is charmless, I'm just saying this character was charmless, and I do think he needed to have charm. He needs to be a piece of shit, but so charming that we're still like, fuck, I would also do it with this guy. And I didn't feel that. So, but other than that, I thought the acting was good.

Rotten Tomatoes Takes And Ending Expectations

SPEAKER_05 9:16

Yeah, yes. And I and that's the thing. I I I okay, I I saw uh before we started, I went to Rotten Tomatoes and I was like, I need to see what the what the consensus of the people is, you know, because the people have opinions. Of course we do. We don't usually do this, but I'm gonna do this a little bit. You're gonna read some. I'm gonna read read some things. I love this, yeah. Uh what is it?

SPEAKER_02 9:48

We really should have had these locked and loaded, though.

SPEAKER_05 9:50

No, this one's very long. Okay. Oh, what was that? The ending. Oh yeah, here we go. Oh, the ending, yeah. There are some movies that require your undivided attention and should be seen on the big screen for the first time. Movies like Lost in Translation or The Life Aquatic. What?

SPEAKER_02 10:13

First of all, I would argue neither of those are movie theater movies, but continue.

SPEAKER_05 10:17

Even The Joker, I think. So he it feels like he sort of he has lots of other things about Marty being a narcissist, but like those three movies as like the sort of your go-to movies to talk about this movie. Um okay, here's the there's there's two more. This one's a little longer, the last one's short. Wish the ending gave us the relief we needed. Would have loved to see Marty in the championship, or at least if he came and saw his baby and thought that was incredible, and tells Rachel he's committed to being a dad, and then he walks out of the hospital with her and presses there to write about the real champion, or he uses the notoriety to market the ping pong ball idea. Something.

SPEAKER_02 11:00

I think you misunderstood the point of the movie, person that wrote that.

SPEAKER_05 11:05

Last one. Thought there would be more ping pong.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

Um that is something that I agree with, and that's just based on the trailer, which made it seem like it was a sports movie, and I would argue this is not a sports movie.

SPEAKER_05 11:20

Not a sports movie.

SPEAKER_02 11:21

Because it's a movie with ping pong in it, but it's not a movie about ping pong.

SPEAKER_05 11:25

I mean, there's pretty much only two ping pong seats, you know, there's just a phone.

SPEAKER_02 11:30

Yeah, it's basically like saying Top Gun is a volleyball movie. That's like the equivalent to only with less sexy dudes with their shirts off.

SPEAKER_05 11:40

Yeah. This movie doesn't really establish him. You don't have faith that he's the best or deserves anything or anything.

SPEAKER_02 11:50

You just Well, he doesn't deserve anything, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_05 11:53

Doesn't deserve anything. Um what are your before we start talking about the movie thoughts about this movie?

SPEAKER_02 12:00

Well, I'd love to talk about this guy that was like, I wanted some sort of catharsis at the end. And I just I want to reiterate then you're watching the wrong movie because like this movie isn't about him succeeding. This movie is kind of about this piece of shit going through life and then basically being like, Well, I guess my life's over now. I have a child. That's what I got out of the movie. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_05 12:21

That's what you think it is.

SPEAKER_02 12:23

Oh, I don't get that at all. I mean, listen, it's probably not. He cries and he's very happy to see his baby at the end, but I'm just like, Well, your ping pong dreamstead, right? Like, you're gonna have to go work at your stupid shoe shop. You you're tangled with this woman, your mom's not gonna let you escape. Like, you're done. You you're done. You did your adventure, and now you're done. Your life's over. This is the next 40 years. That's what I got out of it. It'd be my own shit. That might be my own shit projecting that on Marty Supreme, but that's that's you definitely bringing your human baggage to this. Oh wow. I got a I got a lot of bags. Uh bell hop, please. Ding ding.

SPEAKER_05 13:03

Because I really thought, you know, he was gonna like basically commit himself to the child for like four days and then be off.

SPEAKER_02 13:10

Well, I mean that is in in the real world, that is what this character would do. Yeah, for sure. Four days might even be too much. It might not even make it back to the room with his lady. Before he's sleeping with all the nurses in the hospital. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not gonna make it.

SPEAKER_05 13:26

Yeah, I mean, that in a movie like this, very hard to sort of think about because the main character is just he's just a piece of shit.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

You know, he's and he doesn't learn or grow or change, right?

SPEAKER_05 13:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

Like you can I can argue that him allowing himself to be spanked and embarrassed is like him humbling himself a little, I guess. But then he turns around and does the opposite of everything in the next scene, right? So it's he just uh you know, he just will do anything to do this. He does it, and then on to the next adventure.

SPEAKER_05 14:06

Kind of it's I mean, that's why that's why I dislike him as a character, is because he doesn't ever even stand up for himself. He he oddly never even stands up for himself, and you're just like, What what what even are you? I mean, it's like I just I don't want to spend any time with this guy because at least if he was a a self-confident dick, you know, he would have stood up for himself and said, Oh, go fuck yourself. You know, it's like because I I mean I I don't know. I've I'm sure I've told stories where like, you know, I've been at a toy show or whatever selling stuff and I've been like the world's biggest prick. And you know, it's like I will burn this thing down before I will take your disrespect.

Dan’s Collectibles Story And Marty’s Vibes

SPEAKER_02 14:47

You know, I will tell you that I don't think we get those stories enough, Dan. Uh if we've had stories like that, we need more. We need more Dan against the world. Oh, okay. Well, here's one.

SPEAKER_05 14:58

We were we were at we're at the Atlantic City uh collective collectible show, and I had the we had this King Kong puzzle, puzzle from the original movie of King Kong, comes in this this uh cardboard uh envelope, uh paper envelope, big color, you know, 1933 or whatever it is. Sure. Bought it at Glendale for like a hundred, have it out for like 800, I think. 750, 800. Great profit, you know, make some good money on this. Yeah guy guy comes into the booth. You know, he's like, you know, this this is Atlantic City, so you know the people coming to that show are like stockbroker, fucking assholes. And this guy's like, I want this day. And you know, and then he starts like beating me up on price, and I'm just like, no. No, no, no, thanks, and then I just I think it, you know, it did the day goes. I just turn around and don't pay attention to it. I just walk away from him. Yeah, all he was so angry. Well, that's good.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

The worst thing you could do to a guy like that is not acknowledge him because that's his whole existence.

SPEAKER_05 16:01

Yeah, he's like, I got money, you know. I do it. Well, then give me my fucking money. I don't care, I don't care about your problems. Whatever, get lost. He leaves, comes back again, we do the whole dance again. Oh god, leaves again in the huff, then comes back, and I think I think you know, the third time I give I knock off a hundred bucks or something, and we do the deal, and then he's like, We're buddies. And I'm like, hey, no, hey, you're a good guy, you're a good guy, come here, bring it in here. I'm like, I mean, I didn't, I I mean, I didn't go at him again, but I was just thinking, sure, no, you're a piece of shit. No, go fuck yourself guy because if you're gonna come at me, just come at me like, oh man, I love this piece. That you know, come at me like a human being. Don't come at me like you're in charge, because you're not in charge. I'm this is the man. He's not the man, he's a piece of shit. This is my domain, and that's I never got that from Marty. I always got from Marty it's just like he's just a Weasley loser that's yeah, that's that's good at ping pong, and he thinks he's special, but he's not he was never special. He was, you know, he won a game, he won, he finally won a game. So you're like, well, he's really good at something, but he's he's nothing.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

He's pretty good because honestly, I don't even know if that guy's that good because the whole movie Marty kept telling me it's the paddle, not the player. So I don't even know how good that guy is, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_05 17:24

Well, we'll talk about a couple of those things where there's like, well, let's set up a thing and then it's just not a thing. You know, it's a set up a movie thing, and then it just like it goes away, which well then answer me, because uh he this Japanese guy comes, he plays the Japanese guy, the Japanese guy wins, he has a different paddle.

SPEAKER_03 17:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:49

Do you think it do you think it's wrong to sub what do you think they were trying to subvert expectations? Or do you think what do you think that was you know, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 18:02

I I just I mean listen, I don't know. It's he so the character just makes excuses because at first it's the white ball, so he wants colored balls, then it's the wrong paddle. We didn't really get a third thing, I don't think, which would be like an escalation of his excuses of why he's gonna he lost and he should have won. But like I yeah, I don't know. I don't really know. I also don't know how to play ping pong very well, so I don't really understand if the paddle would make a difference. Also, I didn't realize if this is even true that they wore black because the balls are white. I is that even real, or did he make that up too?

SPEAKER_05 18:41

I don't know. I mean, we we played ping pong as kids and we never had problems seeing the ball. That yeah, that's fair. But they also they they do make it way faster than you are, okay? They do make orange balls and yellow balls. For sure. Yeah. The other thing that I will forget to mention is when he goes to the bowling alley to play ping pong, they just play it comically bad.

SPEAKER_06 19:06

Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:07

Like to the extreme of like when we were kids, we were playing better ping pong than those idiots. You know, and we were like nine years old. So I, you know, you know, we were making shots like this that would come back over the edge, and we made shots like that all the time, and we were not good. Are you sure? Maybe you were super good. You don't even know. I missed it. No, we were not.

SPEAKER_02 19:30

You never tested your skills, Dan.

SPEAKER_05 19:31

That's your problem right there. You were complacent. No, because real ping pong players, it's all about putting spin on the ball, right? That's why that's correct, yeah. It's all about, and those balls, you know, if you're playing one of those real guys, the ball would come and you'd be like, oh, it's gonna be right here. Then you would swing wherever it should be. It's not that at all. You just be like, whoosh, whoosh whoosh.

SPEAKER_02 19:52

Teleports four feet to the left, and you're like, ah, what just happened? I have no idea.

SPEAKER_05 19:57

Those guys are doing magic, and you know, I don't know. It'd be interesting to I should watch some real ping pong compared to the ping pong, because the ping pong in this is like slam, and I'm six miles, slam.

SPEAKER_02 20:12

He does do like the tennis grunt a lot. That's like his thing.

unknown 20:17

Ugh.

SPEAKER_07 20:18

Ugh.

SPEAKER_02 20:19

Yeah, that made me laugh a lot. And I don't even should. I again I I don't watch ping pong. I've never watched the world series of ping pong, you know, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 20:28

We we what one Christmas we watched uh the the world series the world series of uh uh the thing where you toss the little bags of beads into the hole cornhole.

SPEAKER_02 20:39

Cornhole is one of my favorite games in the world, Dan.

SPEAKER_05 20:42

And I will tell you this when we sat there, you know, for a couple hours watching Cornhole, way more exciting sports-wise than this this thing was ever.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

I believe that. Cornhole's the best. I love it. I love that game. My family loves that game. We play it all the time. I have a mini set in my trunk at all times. Just so you know, if you ever want to play it, just let me know and I'll bust that thing out.

Plot Starts With Shoes And Ping Pong

SPEAKER_05 21:06

Okay. Uh, shall we talk about this movie?

SPEAKER_02 21:09

Do you have any more upfront things you want to bring up? We can talk about it, but it's pretty chaotic, so I feel like we're doing a great job already.

SPEAKER_05 21:15

Doing good. Uh, we sit, we start with I think it's Tears for Fears. Um Tears for Fears or Peter Gabriel. I guess there's a Peter Gabriel song in here, too. Someone said that.

SPEAKER_02 21:26

Which song is this? Can you sing it?

SPEAKER_05 21:29

I I mean, I just I just want to sing Everybody Wants to Rule the World, but I think that's the final s I think that's the final song.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

I agree. So I don't I don't remember which song this was, if I'm being honest.

SPEAKER_05 21:40

Yeah, I don't. Uh it's in a ladies' shoe store. Here's Marty, Marty, Marty Mauser. Um he looks like a rat, right? He looks terrible.

SPEAKER_02 21:51

I don't know if we're allowed to knock Timothy Chalamet's look. I'm not sure if that's allowed because apparently he's very attractive. That's what people think. I asked Shannon. And she's like, he's okay. I don't think he's attractive at all. I don't know when, like, but I like m my men. You know what I mean? I get it. So that's maybe he's just not my cup of tea, but I just in general, I don't find his features appealing.

SPEAKER_05 22:17

Most of this movie takes place at night, and at the end we have some scenes very much in daylight, very close to his face, and his face looks the complexion looks terrible.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

Yeah, and I think that's on purpose, right? It felt like they they they ugly him up. The boyfriend of the the lady that had the baby, the husband, that's the word. Yeah, the husband. He's the boyfriend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it, I get it, yeah, yeah. So the husband was like, I hope his face is all marked up like his dad or something like that. So he said that once. Oh so they're definitely doing that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:53

But I didn't notice it till the ends.

SPEAKER_02 22:57

Nobody else talks about it. So like he mentioned it, and I was like, is it? And then later they showed close-up, and I was like, Oh, I I guess it is. That hasn't really played a part in the movie at all, but I guess that's true.

SPEAKER_05 23:09

Hmm. So in comes Rachel, who's played by some super hot actress or some uh some actress with a lot of Riz.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

Ooh, Riz right now, yeah. Great.

SPEAKER_05 23:22

Riz. Um Riz and the Biz. She's all like, I came in and bought these shoes, and I left my old shoes. Marty, can you take me in the back and show me the shoes? And you're like, oh, okay, they're gonna fuck. Um, they're playing Forever Young.

SPEAKER_00 23:41

I wanna be Forever the Younger Young.

SPEAKER_02 23:44

Yeah, yeah, okay, I remember.

SPEAKER_05 23:46

Um so they go back, and uh he has to slip by the manager. Um who wants the manager, wants the guy who owns the store wants to make Marty the manager in front of his kid because Marty's like this great salesman. We just needed a line where he was charming the woman he was selling the shoes to, because he was he was showing this one woman, and it's just would be a different movie if something happened in that moment initially where you're just like oh yeah, she's got the gift. This guy's got something, you know? You and I mean if you don't give him that, then we we're never gonna be he's nothing, we're never gonna be drawn in so that we forgive all of his trespasses, because all he does is trespass in this movie, and you're just like sometimes literally. Yes. Um so boom, here they are, banging it out. Uh banging it out. We get the we get the lyric drop the bomb or not in the middle of it, and then for some reason we've taken that song and we've added a children's chorus to that song, which I'm not normally there. Never never heard that before. So I'm just like, well, like I guess I guess he's putting the seed into her.

SPEAKER_02 25:07

Well, I mean, sure he is because uh credits become just semen going into the into the egg. So we're doing the sperm POV and then that's why I felt like the movie bookends with him creating life and then his life ending. That's the way I looked at the movie. I don't know. I guess I'm reading too far into it. Wow, Tony.

SPEAKER_05 25:31

I mean, I came away from this movie like going, are there themes? I couldn't, you know, I I didn't I didn't see the themes, so I'm glad that you saw the themes.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

Not a great theme.

SPEAKER_05 25:43

So we go seamlessly from the the egg, the the fur fertilized egg into a ping pong ball, and then he's at the ping pong fight club. You're like, okay, ping pong fight club. Ping pong fight club, yeah, that's good. Yeah. He gets a call, it's Sandra Bernhardt, uh uh that his mom, who's played by Fran Dresher, who they criminally give her nothing to do in this movie. It's just like you have Fran Dresher and you have Sandra Bernhardt as like mom and aunt or whatever, and and yeah, they don't even have barely a scene. He just goes home and he yells at her basically off-screen.

SPEAKER_02 26:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 26:22

It's terrible.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

Uh well, she probably just read the script and was like, I'd love to be in this movie, you know? Yeah. So she was was she president at the time still? I can I don't know when the changing of the guard happened. She might have still been SAG president when this started.

SPEAKER_05 26:36

Oh, could have been, yeah. So the mom says that they're saying she's sick and you gotta go there, and he's just super callous, is like, fuck you, I'm not doing it. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Um Rachel brings him food. I don't know what that's about. And we we talk about the orange ball. So he wants to make this balls orange because balls are white, and if you're wearing a white shirt, you can't see the ball.

SPEAKER_01 27:06

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

Great. So he you know that if that was something that was relevant in the movie, uh, you know, great.

SPEAKER_05 27:16

Oh, there's one scene that's you know very impressive and has a good sound effect. Um so he's pitching this to the this father and son. I don't know, I don't know if the father's the shoe store owner or someone else. I I don't really know.

SPEAKER_02 27:31

Yeah, he is. He is.

SPEAKER_05 27:33

It's the same guy. I'm pretty sure, right? I have no idea. Yeah, I'm pr I'm almost positive. I don't think so, though, because the other guy in the shoe store he that he gets the money from, he says, You're not gonna get the manager, and I thought that that was the kid of the manager of the store.

SPEAKER_02 27:52

Yeah, I know you're right, maybe. Uh Dan, I don't know. So he's pitching he's pitching this dad and the son, sunset. He's pitching somebody.

London Tournament Scams And Bad Choices

SPEAKER_05 28:00

Uh Dion is very large. And then he's talking about how I'm gonna go, I'm gonna win all these uh things, and then ping pong's gonna be huge, and then everyone's gonna want to have orange balls. Hilarious. There it is. Um, he's gonna win the British Open. He's gonna be the face of the sport. Um let's see. So he so what happens is he needs money to buy a ticket to England for the British Open, but the shoe store guy has left and hasn't given him the money that he owes him, and so here's the other guy with the safe. And Marty pulls up the gun and is like, give me the money, he was gonna make me the manager, he's fucking you over, but if I leave, they do have to be different people.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

You're absolutely right. Yeah, they're different people.

SPEAKER_05 28:55

So Marty's all like, and you can say I robbed you and give me the money. So he gives him the$700 to the to some it more 80s music. You're like, okay, 80s music. Boom, now we're in London. So he's gotten the money, gone there, left the country, he's in London, he dominates in round one, but there's also a Japanese guy who's dominating with a magic paddle. Then we have this really weird loud music um for round three, and he beats an old guy.

SPEAKER_00 29:31

He beats an old guy.

SPEAKER_02 29:33

Beats an old guy. Apt apt description, I love it.

SPEAKER_04 29:37

Uh then he's he goes and he tracks down the head of the ping pong association, is all like, I'm the greatest, I'm good for table tennis, you need to put me up in the writs with all the other big guys.

SPEAKER_05 29:51

And you're the he's the guy's like, no. Yeah. Next we know you can't really blame him for. Next we know, Marty is in the big hotel, and he's talking to reporters, and he's talking about how great he is, and then he makes an Auschwitz joke.

SPEAKER_03 30:08

Oh, and then you Oh, that was hard.

SPEAKER_05 30:11

And then he's like, Oh, I can make that joke because I'm Jewish.

SPEAKER_03 30:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:17

This is the point at which you're like, oh, so Marty's like the unforced error guy? Is that who he is? That's who he is.

SPEAKER_02 30:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:26

And you're you're just like, so he's just we're what we're gonna see is this series of unforced errors that that are gonna kind of derail that are gonna kind of cascade, but they're also not gonna really cascade because he's always just gonna look for another thing to get a around the unforced error.

SPEAKER_02 30:48

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tony, do you have anything to say about all this? Well, I so I'm confused on how this all happened. Do you should I not be based on the movie? What are you confused about?

SPEAKER_05 31:01

How did he afford the writs? He didn't. He went there and he lied to them. This is all left out of the movie, but it's implied by later information that we receive. I mean, this this movie what it does is that why he gets the fine? The$1,500 fine that the bill that he gets is the money that he spent in the hotel. So he goes to the so at some point he goes to the hotel, convinces them that he's one of the players, they put him in the royal suite.

SPEAKER_02 31:29

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 31:30

These these are all never never would happen things, right?

SPEAKER_02 31:33

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:34

I mean, that's the thing. It's if this if we'd seen this guy have some amount of charm, we'd be like, oh yeah, he charmed his way in. Okay, but he doesn't charm his way in. He walks over and sort of gets somebody going and then makes an Auschwitz joke, and then they're just like, This guy's weird, but we'll just keep writing down what he has to do.

SPEAKER_02 31:51

Yeah, we'll just keep talking to him because for no reason whatsoever.

SPEAKER_05 31:55

Right. So so he's scamming all this, and he just he scams everything, but not in like a good way.

SPEAKER_02 32:04

Yeah. Not in a cool way.

SPEAKER_05 32:07

Not in a cool way. Uh he sees a smooth talker. Now he sees Gwynneth Palter, who plays K Stone across there, and he's like, who's that? Because she's getting paid attention to, and they're all like, she's a movie star. And so Marty's like, I guess I need to sleep with her. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:30

I don't don't look at me. So I mean, they're all right.

SPEAKER_05 32:36

So he makes all of his choices based on what other people want.

SPEAKER_02 32:41

I'm not because that's not what ping pong is, right? Nobody wants ping pong. Nobody wants ping pong.

SPEAKER_05 32:50

Um, so he calls her and he's all like, come to my room, come to my room, watch this, look out your window. I'm gonna throw an apple into a bowl, and that means you should come over and have sex with me.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

Yeah, so let's talk about this because that's what? This isn't charming, right? This this would not work on anybody. One, and also not that impressive. He just threw an apple into a different window.

SPEAKER_05 33:17

No, he didn't throw an apple into a bowl that had two apples and it displaced the two apples and then it's two other apples out and his apples stayed, but what?

SPEAKER_02 33:27

How is that sexy? That doesn't make me go, hmm, I'm gonna go tickle his ivories. You know what I mean? I don't understand how this is doing anything. And she's like a grown woman. She's a very grown woman. And has she even seen him at this point? I they locked eyes, they locked eyes in the lobby. I don't know whether or not she remembered who he was, but they did have like a moment. I don't know. And and listen, I don't I don't want to uh I believe the frame is I don't want to yuck anyone's yum, as they say, but she's like a a foot taller than him, and he's like the size of just one of her legs, and she's a normal size person, but he's so scrawny. So when they do the the sex scenes, it just looks like a child. I don't it's very weird to me. I don't like it. There's no sex appeal to their sex scenes.

SPEAKER_06 34:27

There's no sex appeal in any of this movie.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

This is the least sexy movie ever. Shouldn't there be in a movie that seems to have a lot of sex? I just I don't know. And maybe this is it again, maybe this is my own baggage. I wanna, I wanna be excited. All right. I wanna feel I wanna feel the sexy times, all right? And I just don't get it.

SPEAKER_05 34:50

There there's some movies that you watch and they'll be what was the what was the movie? Oh, you know what? You know what movie? Under the Silver Lake.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

Yeah, I haven't seen that because it's directed by an idiot.

SPEAKER_05 35:03

Oh, I thought you saw it. No, no, should I see it? Ricky Lindholm is in there. And Okay. Okay. We're gonna maybe we're gonna probably do that for the show at some point.

SPEAKER_02 35:18

But should we just do it next week? Because now you got me all excited about watching the movie, dude.

The Movie Star Hookup That Rings False

SPEAKER_05 35:23

I mean, you're I was like, okay, wow. I'm impressed. You know, like this movie, you're just like, I'm impressed. You're just like, okay, this there's there's, you know, I'm I'm gonna keep watching this movie because she's you know. But it was, yeah, that it was interesting because it because it also felt real. It didn't feel like a Hollywood thing, you know, like you know, you're watching Tequila sunrise and you know they play the music and the great movie. But but that's like those kind of movies. There's there's there's very movie sex where you're just like, okay, this is this is a bunch of movie sex. Under the silver lake, this is like, okay, this is real life. This this feels like real life. Oh, they're doing it. Yes, they're doing it. This is you know, it's like, yeah, I can I can imagine lots of people being in situations like, you know, this is a real situation. The Marty thing, these these don't feel like these don't feel like real situations. These feel like comically overblown, but also stupid things. Correct, yeah. So she goes there, and oh no, oh no, he's so she's intrigued. So then she goes and watches the semifinals, which are played to rousing electronica music.

SPEAKER_02 36:39

Oh yeah, got you going, didn't it, Dan?

SPEAKER_05 36:43

No, it was so weird. And then he's playing this guy Klatsky, and then he's he's dominating Klatsky, and Klatsky was the old champion. Now Marty is dominating him, and so then the last one they play one, they play one volley where they're kicking it with their shoes, and Marty's blowing on the ball. Yeah. And you're just like, is this a big thing? They're putting on a show.

SPEAKER_02 37:13

They're putting on a show, baby. Is this real? It's real. They're just having fun, you know. They're like, let's give the people a show. They're here for a show, which I don't think is correct. Uh, but let's put on a show. I don't know. So you have to see this in order to understand the Harlem Globetrotters thing, I guess.

SPEAKER_05 37:35

The Harlem Globetrotters thing. Um, and they hug because he and Klatsky is happy for him that he's passed the baton on it. Because that's that's how most competitors are when they go from one to being kicked out, they're like, Well, I'm glad I'm being kicked out by Marty Supreme.

SPEAKER_02 37:52

So that's wrong, Dan. I don't know. Maybe you're not very competitive. Um that's not how it works. No, us only.

SPEAKER_05 38:00

Tony, if I were to be you, you'd be like, if I were to be you, you'd just be like, like if we did the comedy matchup and I was just so much funnier than you. Everyone knew how much funnier. You would be like, Oh, I'm so glad Dan just gave me a comedy.

SPEAKER_02 38:15

I'm so I'm so happy that it all worked out for you, my best friend in the world. Nah, fuck that, man. I'm living.

SPEAKER_05 38:24

You you'd be like pipe bombing, you know, you do the pipe, you know, when I'm when I'm walking back up. I'd be down a knee.

SPEAKER_02 38:31

You better believe Nancy Kerrigan.

SPEAKER_05 38:33

Wait, is that was that who it was? That's I'm Nancy Kerrigan. You're the victim. I tanya. Tanya Harding. Tanya Harding. So you don't buy this that he's gonna congratulate him on the body.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

Well, I just now it makes me think that it's all fake because then they're also like best friends. They go to dinner and then he's like, I've got a business opportunity for you. So I was like, did he throw the match to try to like convince him to do the Harlem Globetrot? I got very confused. So no, I don't buy it. I just don't I don't know if it's supposed to be real or if it was all a fake. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 39:10

Huh. Interesting. Um they go to dinner and then Marty, you know, or at the hotel, and so Marty orders, give me all the food and the most expensive food.

SPEAKER_02 39:23

Right. What? It's so weird.

SPEAKER_05 39:27

And and he's like, and then here's Kay and her husband, who's played by Kevin O'Leary. Wait, what did you take of the Kevin O'Leary uh casting? I guess he was a Shannon said maybe he was a producer on the movie or something.

SPEAKER_02 39:41

Oh, interesting. I didn't know that. Um I you know, I thought he did a surprisingly good job. So he fit the character. He played a piece of shit, and he's a piece of shit. So it worked out. Who would have thunk it, huh?

SPEAKER_05 39:58

Um, so then he's like, put their meal on on my tab. And then he comes over and he's all like, oh, wait, we got to do the Harlem Globetrotters really quick. So Klatsky pitches Marty on doing the Harlem Globetrotters after this thing, where they're gonna travel around the world. Although I don't know if the Globetrotters really traveled around the world. Maybe they did. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 40:19

So I looked it up, and yes, they have traveled to 124 countries and territories on six continents since 1926. So yeah. There it is. The Globetrotters. I don't know, I don't know like how the consistency or anything, but it is it is feasible.

SPEAKER_05 40:35

So they probably did travel in the 50s because it's it felt like in the 70s when I knew the Globetrotters, they seemed like they were mostly pretty local. It was an American thing where they travel around the country and did their thing.

SPEAKER_02 40:46

Well, they wear America colors, and I think it's at some point the world was kind of like, well, we're done with this.

SPEAKER_05 40:53

Enough of that. Um so Marty's like, no, I'd never do that. That's that's basing myself, blah blah. Never, never, never, never, never. And you're like, okay, we got it.

SPEAKER_02 41:06

I mean, I got it, except for it's weird because you just did that. You just put on a show two seconds ago. But no, this was the really beneath you, but it was the British Open. You know, in my opinion, they weren't very professional there. They were being jackasses. But okay. Oh, interesting. Interesting. What do I know?

SPEAKER_05 41:30

So here comes here comes uh the Rockwell guy, Kevin O'Leary. He's like, What do you want? Then we drop this line about the Japanese. He's he's you know, Marty pitches ping pong to this guy. He's like the mogul of a pen company. And the and he says the the mogul says, How did how did a Japanese guy get around the travel ban? And you're like, Oh, okay, here's what's gonna happen. Marty's gonna evoke the travel ban and get this guy kicked out, but we we do that line again, or he had already done that line, and then we do we've reinforced that line with here, and then we never talk about it again.

SPEAKER_02 42:10

And then we ignore it, yeah, because you know, travel bands and whatnot, not they're not all that banny, if you think about it.

SPEAKER_05 42:18

And then he he uh Kevin E'Lear gives up the thing, he says, My son lost his life liberating you people because the Klatzke was in the camps. Yeah, Katsky tell Klatzke tells a story about the camps. Tony, what was the story?

SPEAKER_01 42:35

Something like he played ping pong so they didn't kill him? Is that the story?

unknown 42:41

No.

SPEAKER_05 42:42

Are you sure? He played ping pong, and so they're like, ah, you have nimble hands. So they're like, you will just you will disarm bombs. So they send him the force.

SPEAKER_02 42:51

That's what I just said. He played ping pong good, so they didn't kill him. That's basically what I got from that story.

SPEAKER_05 42:57

So he dismant he's out dismantling a bomb one day, and lo and behold, he sees bees. He follows the bees back to their hive. Oh, there's a hive! He blows smoke in the hive, blow, blow, blow, drives the bees away, then he has the hive.

SPEAKER_04 43:10

He cracks it open, he smears the honey all over his body, all over his nipples. Then he goes, he goes back to the barracks, and all the other prisoners lick lick the honey off of his nipples.

SPEAKER_05 43:23

Yeah. I thought he was gonna say, like, I got had all the hot ladies uh do it, but no.

SPEAKER_02 43:30

No, no, just everybody. I mean, he's an equal opportunist. That's why we like this character, right?

SPEAKER_05 43:35

Uh, he's probably my favorite thing of the whole movie, and I I believe that you know we're not gonna see much more of him.

SPEAKER_02 43:43

So here's, and I don't even know if I should admit this. Now that I'm maybe I'll edit this out later. So when that story was happening and he covered himself in honey, I thought he was gonna be like, and then I slipped through the fence because I was covered in goo. I thought that's Where he was going. And I was like, oh, this is a weird story. And then instead, it was just everybody was eating his body. But I thought that's where he was going. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 44:12

You don't have to edit that out. It's very funny. It's not, it's not racist. All right. He's up in the royal suite. Here comes Kay. She's like, she's hot. She's blonde. She's old.

SPEAKER_02 44:28

Whoa. Older. She's older than Timothy Chalamag.

SPEAKER_05 44:33

Pretty old. Um, I guess they have sex, I guess. They have sex, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, I guess so.

SPEAKER_01 44:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:40

I don't know why. Then we have the finals, which is this is the first sort of serious amount of ping pong we see. Marty loses the flip, he loses match one, he loses match two, he loses match three.

SPEAKER_02 44:52

So what's interesting, or I thought, I thought this was interesting or going to be interesting, and I didn't totally understand it. It seemed like he couldn't handle the guy's serve. It seemed like he was having a hard time with the serve, and I was like, oh, why? What is that? What's going on? And then it I don't know, it got all confused, but I thought maybe he was like doing some sort of special serve, but I you know, I don't know anything.

SPEAKER_05 45:18

You were thinking of this as if it were a movie.

SPEAKER_02 45:21

Sure. Yeah, I was because you made me you told me we were gonna watch a movie, and so then I turned on what I thought was a movie, and then I tried to look at it like a movie, you see.

SPEAKER_05 45:33

Sports movies have a very specific architecture, which is recruiting the right person. Uh, you know, it's like in Bad News Bears, you get what's his name, the badass neighborhood kid, you know, who's riding the doing donuts on his motorcycle, and you get him to come in and play, and he's great.

SPEAKER_02 45:53

But then what you really mean is Fulton Reed and the Mighty Ducks. I I understand. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 45:59

That's another movie. Um, or or you figure out, you know, you you you look at what they're doing, and then you they they're doing some tech that you you're not understanding. You sort out the tech, and then you're ready through your heart and grit to come back.

SPEAKER_02 46:15

That's right.

SPEAKER_05 46:16

And grit when you watch Hoosiers, this is a movie. This is a movie that that that drives people emotionally, and it's like it is it slightly formulaic? Well, of course it is, because it's a sports movie. This movie's like take all that formula, throw it in the trash.

SPEAKER_02 46:36

Which I guess is probably why people like it, right? Because people like different, I don't know, because you know, because everyone was all mad about F1. Speaking of because those movies were up against each other for the Oscars, technically. I know that F1 never stood a chance. I get it, everybody, but I love that it was nominated. It's my favorite movie of the year, so F you. Um, everyone's like, oh, it's formulae. It's like, yeah, but it does well. Like, I I have no problem with using a formula if you use the formula well and to your advantage. That's not a problem for me. If you use a formula as a crutch and you have a bad movie, but you're just like, well, if we stick to the formula, people will like it, then it's then it's a problem, right? But if you if you're able to seamlessly weave your story around a formula, there's nothing wrong with that. That's why it's a formula, because it effing works, people. I don't know why I'm complaining about this. I just love F1 so much. That's the Brad Pitt one?

SPEAKER_05 47:35

Yeah, that's a Brad Pitt one. And I think they had to I was reading something that they had to fight to get it in theaters, and it made just a shitload of money in theaters.

SPEAKER_02 47:44

Oh, it made so much money. Yeah, Apple wanted to just have it on their Apple screens, and they the I can't remember his name all of some. The guy that did Top N F1 was like, what are you talking about? No, this needs to be on the big screen for the love of God.

SPEAKER_05 47:58

Yeah. And and yeah, so yes, sports movies are formulaic, but I think you kind of need some of that so that when Marty is being a big you gotta in the end, they don't give Marty anything in this movie.

SPEAKER_02 48:17

Right? That is correct, yes. Nothing at all.

SPEAKER_05 48:21

He is charmless, he's he's uh uh successful at the ping pong, but he's not you know, he he doesn't you never feel like he you never feel like he earns the ping pong either because he doesn't practice. We have like one 30-second montage between this point at the and the the second big match where he in fact mostly what you get is him being like, I should be practicing right now, but I'm here with you.

SPEAKER_02 48:47

He says that like three times in the movie, and I'm like, you're right, you should be guy.

SPEAKER_05 48:52

Yeah, and I mean it it's sort of like he's being uh rewarded for for his terrible behavior, right? The whole thing correct, he is terrible, he's terrible, he's terrible. You know, like people there's dead bodies everywhere, and you're just like wait, uh if this was any of the rest of us, we'd all be in jail and and locked up and would not be getting long.

SPEAKER_02 49:12

And uh again, I'm gonna go back to he kind of is because now he's got a child. He's in child jail, his dream is over, he's done with ping pong.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_02 49:23

Game over.

SPEAKER_05 49:23

So he loses, he he yells at the ref, he throws a trash can, and we get a newsreel about uh Koto Endo who won. We find out that he's deaf, which I found super interesting.

SPEAKER_02 49:36

Right, because it doesn't really mean anything.

SPEAKER_05 49:39

You know, they it's also interesting, they kind of shoot him heroically, and then at the end, there's this one shot of him where he sort of his teeth are sort of overbit, and you could just be like, Oh, he's just like a hayseed.

SPEAKER_02 49:56

He's just human.

SPEAKER_05 49:58

Yeah, he's just this hayseed guy, and and that one shot sort of belies that, but then you're like, Yeah, but then we don't do anything with that, and it's just it's all instantly gone. And even if that was an intention, the movie just throws it out there and doesn't need to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02 50:13

You don't actually care about it, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:15

Don't seem to care about that.

SPEAKER_02 50:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:17

Um, so he's in Paris, he goes to see the Rockwell guy. The Rockwell guy's like, I love table tennis. What we're gonna do is we're gonna do an exhibition match. I'm gonna give you a thousand dollars, hotel, private plane, but it's gonna be about entertaining. We're gonna do it a week before the world championship in Japan, but you've gotta lose. Um and then he does he blow it all up right then?

SPEAKER_02 50:46

Yeah, he's like, nah, I'm not gonna do that. I can't pretend. Oh my rep.

SPEAKER_05 50:50

I got my rep.

SPEAKER_02 50:51

Yeah, my image, yeah. Which is non-existent, right?

SPEAKER_05 50:55

And this yeah, I know. And does he shit does he shit on the guy's uh kid at that point, his dead kid that died in the war?

SPEAKER_02 51:03

Is that later? I don't remember if it's here or it's the next time he sees him. Yeah. It must be here because then later he's like, I'm his son's friend, and I have his belongings. So yeah, that it must be here that he starts that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 51:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:20

So he basically blows Yes, because he says you touched a nerve, so I touched a nerf. Let's move on. That's how like that scene kind of you still owe me a dinner.

SPEAKER_05 51:29

And you're like, I'm not I'm a rich guy, I'm not sitting there. You know, it's it kind of goes back to my King Kong story. It's like, go fuck yourself, get out of my booth. You're banned.

SPEAKER_02 51:39

Correct.

SPEAKER_05 51:39

You know, yeah, because I'm banned. I'll ban you.

SPEAKER_03 51:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 51:43

Because I don't care. Go to hell. Yeah, I had this one guy. I I I sold something on eBay for$240, right? So$240. Guy emails me today, would you take$125 for this? Well, it is already sold. Right. It is already sold. So I just wrote it back. I sold this for$240. You know, normally sorry, you I'm tempted to go, go fuck yourself. But you know, you're just like, it sold it for$240. That just shows what a fucking loser you are.

SPEAKER_02 52:14

Right. Like, it's worth it, guy. It's worth it. You you fucked up.

SPEAKER_05 52:18

Um, okay, let's talk about sidebar. Money. Sidebar, yeah. We're always talking about money in this movie. What did you think? What did you think of that?

SPEAKER_02 52:30

Uh, well, it seemed like money was meaningless, and yet they kept talking about it. This is why I was confused. So, like the hotel and all that stuff. Like, I guess I don't know how things worked in the 1920s, but I would think that he would have to pay some sort of money to even start a tab, right? I don't understand any of that.

SPEAKER_05 52:48

Hold on, hold on, Tony. We're gonna we're gonna get back to that.

SPEAKER_02 52:52

What year did this movie take place? I think it was 1847. Is that am I in the ballpark? Give me a decade. A decade? Uh I would say the 40s, the 50s, the 40s.

SPEAKER_06 53:05

You just said the 20s, and I'm like, this movie did not take part in the 20s.

SPEAKER_05 53:10

Okay. It's late 40s, early 50s. Okay. It's the 1910s.

SPEAKER_02 53:13

So they're always all these guys are at a hotel.

SPEAKER_05 53:16

They're always talking about money, but like you say, but the the money doesn't exactly it means the thing, but it doesn't mean anything. But it doesn't.

SPEAKER_02 53:23

It doesn't actually mean anything because in the end, he ends up going on a free trip, anyhow. I like it the money, is it's a weird thing in this where he he talks about it. It's like everything else, I guess. He talks about it, but it means nothing, right? I don't know. I found it very, very weird. But then, you know, he steals oh, we gotta get to this part that I didn't understand in this movie, by the way. Where like he steals money off the dead guy out of his pocket at some point because the money's so important, but then he doesn't really use it in the end because they didn't even let him pay it back, so he didn't need the money. He got a free trip. Well, I'm just I'm bewildered.

SPEAKER_05 54:04

A typical money typical movie that deals with money will spend the time dealing with so like I need a hundred bucks to bail out my cousin or whatever. Then we then we will spend you know act two getting that money, then we will find out that that getting that money meant wasn't wasn't even necessary, that there's some bigger task that has to occur to to get the cousin out of the prison. Yeah, right. You know, where now you're gonna have to fight your way through all the cops in that place. You know, they laugh at you, they're like, ha ha ha, we just did set you on that fool's task because you're an idiot.

SPEAKER_02 54:39

That took a real dark turn. He only needed a hundred bucks, and then now he's gotta kill cops. I mean, wow, this is a great movie, dude. I'm in.

SPEAKER_05 54:47

This is a movie I want to see. Um, so it's like it's the endless amount of different amounts of money. You're just like, well, 100%. So he's gotta come up with$1,500 to pay the old hotel bill, but he's also got to come up with money to get an airline ticket, but then he's gotta stay somewhere, but he you're just like, oh my god, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 55:06

It's all very confusing, but then he doesn't need any of it. So it's I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 55:11

Because basically the whole movie is about him trying to get money to do a thing when he could have just not been an asshole and could have gone with the other guy.

SPEAKER_02 55:20

100%. Yeah.

Globetrotters Tour And Mom Trouble

SPEAKER_05 55:21

Yep. So now we cut to him working with the Globetrotters.

SPEAKER_02 55:27

Yeah, yeah. Which, you know, that makes sense to me because he needs money, and so he's he's willing to do anything.

SPEAKER_05 55:35

Which is hold on. He didn't he didn't burn it down with uh with Kevin O'Leary, he burns it down the next time he sees him. Okay, all right. He just sort of says, Ah, I've got my you know reputation, and then he storms out. He doesn't burn it down. So then he's doing Globetrotters, they're dressed in these weird silk outfits and they're playing on a tiny ping-pong table, and no one cares, and it doesn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_02 56:03

I'll tell you real quickly, there was this halftime show that I saw when I was working for the Timberwolves where this woman had a bunch of bowls, and then she was on like a unicycle, and she would have the bowls on her feet, and she'd kick the bowls on a unicycle, and they would land on her head, and she was just stacking them. It was the coolest thing I've ever seen. So sometimes the the halftime shows are pretty cool. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 56:31

When I was a kid, they had the Ed Sullivan show, and there were people that always did shit like that, and then they also spun bowls on poles. And I mean, you can still do that shit. People watch it's cool. Yeah, it's cool. They just put them in skin tight outfits and call it cirque de soleil.

SPEAKER_02 56:52

And now I will say that when they bring out the walrus? Is that a question? Is it a walrus? Or is it a seal?

SPEAKER_05 57:00

It's not a walrus, it's you know what it is? It's it's not a sea, it might be an elephant seal. It's not an elephant seal.

SPEAKER_02 57:07

It's one step up from a seal.

SPEAKER_05 57:09

It's not a sea lion.

SPEAKER_02 57:10

I don't know, it's I don't know any animals.

SPEAKER_05 57:12

It might be a sea lion, but it might be one step up from a sea lion, too. Yes, he has to place play ping pong with a sea lion.

SPEAKER_02 57:19

That would have been a cool halftime show. That would have been great. That's it, that's all.

SPEAKER_05 57:24

I want to see Marty go back in, you know, it's like I want to see you behind the scenes griping about the sea lion. That's that's way more interesting.

SPEAKER_02 57:31

Be humiliated a little. Like this is the this is your point of the of the movie to like degrade him and bring him down and humble him, like they do with the spanking a little bit, but also not really.

SPEAKER_05 57:43

Um this is how your character grows. Because we don't even the spanking. Well, we'll talk about the spanking. That's a good point.

SPEAKER_02 57:49

We should talk about the spanking because we don't oh, we'll talk about the spanking, my friend.

SPEAKER_05 57:54

We do this this this episode's gonna be two and a half hours long. Um there's not there's not a lot of ups and downs, highs and lows. Yeah, we never see him go, and he's in a low, and they imply that he's in a low, but they don't show it to show it.

SPEAKER_02 58:09

Yeah, we don't get to live in it at all.

SPEAKER_05 58:12

We never get to see him not being the bullshit Marty who's just bullshitting his way up to the next thing. Okay, so he then he goes back to see uh Kevin O'Leary, and that's when he he's he's like, you know, oh you gotta let you gotta let me do the thing, and the guy's like, no, and then he's sh that's when he craps on the sun. And then he's like, get out, and he and Marty's like, no, you'll me a me.

SPEAKER_02 58:37

As you would. And you're just like I would be upset too.

SPEAKER_05 58:40

Yeah, it's like whatever. Um he goes around the world with the globe trotters, plays a seal. Back in New York City, he slips into his mom's house, whose friend Dresher, they fight, and then he's like, I'm gonna go to Tokyo in a few weeks. He gives her a present, which is a chip of the rock off of the pyramid.

SPEAKER_02 58:59

Yeah, but you can't do that.

SPEAKER_05 59:01

Not anymore. Um it was a weird scene because you're just like, does he just disdain his mom or does he really care about her?

SPEAKER_02 59:12

Nah, he loves her. So it's interesting, right? And this is I don't know. So her and him are very similar, right? Where they lie and manipulate. He obviously learns it from her, so he like he loves her, but he's just like, oh, you're so full of shit, and he is, but I'm full of shit. And then the Rachel character starts doing that as well. I don't know if she was always that way, but she definitely be like creeps into that territory, and that's so like they're all just shitty people lying to each other, but they definitely they do care about each other to a certain degree, you know. What's most interesting to me during this scene is he gives her the piece of the pyramid and then he says, quote, we W-E, we built it. We built that. And it's like interesting that you're taking ownership of something that ancestors built. Just found it interesting.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:10

Huh. He does say that. It's a weird line at that point.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:13

Yeah, huh? What's he talking about? Well, I think it's a little narcissistic. It fits right in.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:19

Yeah, he takes a shower. Here comes a cop to arrest him, and they're arresting him for the money. And they're like, You got two options come and work at the shop or you're going to jail. Cop slaps him, and then he'll I I I think they're gonna arrest him. I I wasn't sure where we even left, but he flees out the window.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:38

Yeah, he apologizes and they're like, take off the cuffs. So no.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:44

And oh, the because the uncle took the money out of his the money that he made on the Globetrotters.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:49

So Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:51

I don't know. So he has to flee from the cops. Okay, he's fleeing from the cops.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:55

Um he's using a phone where Rachel works. She comes in there, she's eight months pregnant. Does she have the black eye now, or does that come later?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:07

No, the black eye's the next time because this time he's basically no.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:12

Yeah, oh yeah. So she he comes, she's he's trying to make a call, she comes in, she's crying, she's like, it's your baby. Then the husband comes in, sees them hugging, and then they do this whole thing where like the father Marty's father died. They say a lot of weird things that you're just like, what are you talking about? This is the tiniest neighborhoods, they they know everything.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:35

Right. And they've known each other since they were eight, they said, several times. Yeah. So he would know who he is. Doesn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:45

He knows exactly who Marty is. So then he runs out in the street to call the cops because he knows the cops are after him.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:52

Yeah.

The Hotel Bath Crash And Dog Money

SPEAKER_05 1:01:53

Okay. He goes and meets his buddy Wally, who's gotten ten dollars. Marty's stinky because he fell into trash, so they go to the hotel, they go to this hotel. At the hotel, the guy says, Well, I can give you this room for$2.50, but you can't use the bathtub. He's like, Okay, give me that one. So he goes there. Uh once his name goes through, we find out that he owes$1,500 to the association for all the bad deeds. The one interesting thing that happens in the movie, he's taking a bath, the bath falls through the ceiling onto this other guy and crushes his arm and almost kills his dog. And the dog is sick, and so the guy is like, Marty, you gotta take the dog to the vet. Here's a hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:47

But the dog's not sick, it's supposed to be coughing or something, right? But the dog's fine. And Marty looks in the bag and the guy has thousands of dollars under bag, tons of cash monies, yeah. Um this was so much more intense than anything else that happens in the whole movie. I was like, oh shit, it's about to begin. And then instead, it kind of slows back down. Yeah, like this is this, even when that guy comes back and murders folk, it was much less tense than this scene. Um, so your movie needs to be here more often. Like, I feel like the movie sits at the same level for most of the movie, and then this is like a spike, and then it just comes back down and kind of rests on the same thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:38

Yeah, so they they go to do so. Their plan is to take the hundred dollars and go hustle in the uh in the middle of nowhere. They go, they do a hustle in the middle of nowhere, then they flee, but then they run out of gas. So they go to a gas station and break in their steel gas, and then here come the the guys that they hustled in a truck, but they're able to get away and then burn the gas station to the ground.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:02

Which is weird because the gas station's there the rest of the movie, right? Don't they drive by it later? He's like, see this gas station that's still lit up, it's the next left. I swear, but I could be wrong, but I swear.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:15

But but in the midst of this, they lose the dog.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:19

Yeah, I don't I don't love the dog journey in this movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:26

I'm only glad that the dog almost gets rescued.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:30

Right, almost, but then is left in an abandoned locked house with a dead man. So three dead men. Well, I guess eat those dead men. Well, but only one of them's on the inside. The other two are on the outside.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:46

So they get back, they have money, and Marty's got like a hundred bucks or so, and who knows? He goes and meets Rachel, the girlfriend. She's got a black eye, and she says, Are you? She's crying, are you mad at me?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:03

Okay. A little.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:04

Marty sneaks back into his mom's place, gets his bags, he goes to Rachel's house and then hits the husband in the face with a trophy.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:12

Just murders him, basically, even though I guess he's not murdered, but he's bleeding quite a bit from the head to be fine later. Just for the record. I mean, I understand head wounds bleed a lot. I know that they say that. I've never had one, you know, knock on wood. My brother had one while I was watching him one time. So it is a thing, but oh, I wonder how that happened. Oh, you want to know Tom Hurdle. If you're what he's not watching this, but Tom Hurdle. If you know Tom Hurdle, it's his fault. He's a sweet guy. Uh, we were all watching a movie. My brother was on one of those little plastic fire trucks, and Tom was sitting next to him, and my brother just like was doing like Papa Wheelies and it sat from under him, and he fell backwards and hit his head on the fireplace. And uh, so I carried him into the my living room, and I was like, my. Hit his head, hit his head, and she's like, Well, is he bleeding? And I took my hand away and it was just dripping with blood. And then I I freaked out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:07

Oh, because you have lots of blood vessels in your head, don't you?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:10

Yeah, they bleed a lot, man. They bleed a lot. So I get it. But also, he was kind of doing the twitchy thing where, like, uh uh, uh, I he's dead. I'm pretty sure he's dead. Wait, your brother was doing the twitchy thing? No, God, no. No, the guy on the floor. So I brought it back to Marty Supreme. My brother's fine, got like four stitches. He's fine. Uh, I mean, he's not too bright, you know. But he's fine.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:35

Is that the beginning of that?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:37

You gave your brother brain damage? Yeah, yeah, I did. I messed him up for good. You know, no, he's he's good. He's a good kid.

Rachel’s Black Eye And Dion’s Breakdown

SPEAKER_05 1:06:44

So he needs a place to to hide out and to to to stash Rachel because he's pretty much killed her husband. So he goes to Dion's place. Dion is the big kid who is helping him with the the ping pong balls.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:01

This just goes on and on. I know. This so Rachel's gonna stay there. He looks at the ping pong balls, the ping pong balls look great. He mocked up a box. Marty's like, you're great, you're Dion, you're great. I'm gonna shit on you so hard later, but you're great right now. Um he figures out where Rockwell is gonna be the next day, goes down there, it's a theater. Uh Kay's got a new play, and then Marty's making his move. He blows a bunch of smoke up her ass for her acting because he watched one scene and then he's on stage doing the Marty Sapia. It's this, you know what this movie is? This movie is the anti-Fair Spueller's day off.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:47

Oh, interesting. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:49

Right, because that's Fair Spueller. You watch that movie and you're like, this guy's a piece of shit. I hate him. Yeah, I want him to fail, I want him to die, but everybody loves him and he's charming, and then everything works out perfectly.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:02

Yeah. That's interesting. I watch that movie slightly differently. How do you watch that movie? I agree. I will I agree. Like, oh man, he's a piece of shit, but he's fun. I kind of want to hang out with him. You you you understand the magic. The yes, you understand the allure of being with him, even though he's gonna fuck you over because he doesn't care about you.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:23

He doesn't care. You get it.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:25

You know, he's like, ah, Cameron, we destroyed the car. He's like, I mean, you know, it's good for Cameron. You know, Cameron needs to do that, but you know, it's God, it is the same movie, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:37

It I mean, it is actually pretty similar when you think about it. But you know, and uh almost equal part of ping pong. So that's great too. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:47

Um so what about what about the play and him getting on stage and and showing up the at the the young actor in the play and telling Kay how great she is?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:59

What's super weird, right? Because I the idea is I like. I like the idea because this is a great chance for him to charm the whole room, right? Wow, yeah. And he gets to be the center of attention, which he loves. Um, but then he's just not all that charming. He does a cool knife trick, right? Like that was cool, but he doesn't do anything cool with it. It's just like a cool flip, flip, flip, got it, and knife. It would have been nice to see him like charm a whole room. This guy's pissed off because everyone's like, well, we should just have this guy play the character. This guy's great. You know what I mean? I don't, but no, I don't know. Nothing happens.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:41

See, Tony, did you want to fall in love with Timothy Chalamet in this movie? And you didn't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:46

I thought that that was gonna be the point of the movie. Is he's a he's that unlikable hero that you root for, you know? But he's not, he's just unlikable. And so I'm just in this movie, like, what am I doing here? Why am I here? You know what I mean? Like, why am I watching this happen? I don't understand why I'm here. I'm only still here because of this podcast. But why is the audience member are we here? I don't know what the point is. What's the point?

Kay’s Necklace And Marty’s Greed

SPEAKER_05 1:10:18

Okay, that's so true. Uh Kay comes up to he goes up to Kay's room and they fuck in the shower, but she drops like some a necklace down the down the drain. Well, he unclips it.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:30

He does it on purpose.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:31

Oh, he does it on purpose?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:32

Oh yeah, he did that on purpose. Yeah, he was stealing from her, which is all weird.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:38

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:39

Then he does a whole he does this bit. Um and he says, I never accept any help.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:50

That's what he says. You're just like, does he believe that when he says that?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:56

I don't know. Because all he does is try to get help. That's his only move. Someone else help me. Someone else help me. I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:08

That's pretty weird. Um, yeah, he's dumb. Uh and she's like, what happens when you fail? And she's she's like, he's like, you sound like my mom. And then she's like, you sound like a child.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:24

Because he is a child. He is a child.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:26

He is like a child. Um he gets the super to come up there, get the uh get the diamond necklace out of the drain, lo and behold, it is cost him jewelry. Funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:36

That's funny.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:37

That was interesting.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:39

Um, he calls Rachel on the phone, gets Rachel to steal Dion's car, and they're gonna go looking for the dog. They find the house, they break into the house, he tries to grab the dog, the dog doesn't come, then a guy in the truck shows up, and the guy in the truck then gets all weirdly confrontational, like he has something to hide.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:58

Well, he stole the dog, you know? Did he steal the dog, or did he just no, the dog just arrived on his property. I don't, it doesn't even seem that bad. But he wants to keep it, I guess, for some reason.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:10

He's obsessed with this dog. It's like dog gold. Um the best dog in the world. He shoots at them, shoots out their back window, they run the car into his porch, and they drive away through the corner.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:23

Destroy his whole porch. Yep. It's weird.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:26

Then now, but their new thing is since they don't have the dog, they're gonna call the dog guy and try and shake him down for$2,000.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:33

And then we Which feels like a lot of money, right? I don't I don't know what money was like in 1850, but it feels like that's a lot. It's like a lot of money.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:45

And and you know, we're just like she's trying to run a con, and she doesn't know how to run a con. Marty doesn't know how to run a con. She's like, oh, that's true. This is great. That's correct. Yeah, go back to Dion's Dion's pissed, she's like, Oh, we're fucked up, we fucked up the car, but we're gonna stay here. And then he's like, I'm not talking to you. Then Rachel starts crying, and then uh they go back in the room, and then we realize that Rachel's black eye is fake. So Marty beat the husband, and he didn't really do anything, and Rachel's a big piece of shit, just like Marty. Yeah, um, and then he's all like, get the fuck out of here. He's getting mad at her. Yep, he sure is for being like him.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:29

Well, it's not a good look, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:31

And then he's like, I can't deal with this. I have a meeting with Spaulding in the morning.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:38

Does he? No, I'm confused.

The Marty Supreme Balls Hit Pavement

SPEAKER_05 1:13:43

And then he's like, Dion's like having like a psychic breakdown, because you know, and then he gets pissed and he throws all the balls, the Marty Supreme balls, out the window, and then they they fall to the pavement and they go blink, blink, blink, blink, blink, blink.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:00

And it looks very cool. Looks cool, sounds good. Sounds great. Um I don't get it.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:08

Is this a metaphor for something? Is that the last we're gonna hear about the Marty Supreme Ball in the movie called Marty Supreme?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:16

Yes, yes. Also, I didn't even fully register that they were called the Marty Supreme. Um, you did?

SPEAKER_05 1:14:23

I knew I knew that before I watched the movie, yeah. Uh wait, is that a real thing? Or you just called Marty Supreme and the ball's called Marty Supreme, yes. Because someone said that to me. They're like, oh yeah, or I heard that somewhere. That's like the movie's named after a ping pong ball, and I was like, no, that can't be right. And then I read about it and I was like, yeah, it's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:42

Is the is the movie based on a real story of the guy that created this? No, okay. He just someone was just like, Oh, well, I wonder why this ball is called the Marty Supreme. I'll make a movie about it for no reason. Okay, yeah. Um, yeah. I don't know, I don't understand it. It's not a lot of true story embedded in this uh fair. Yeah, that's fair.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:05

Um, they go downstairs, here he's with Rachel, and then he says this way he says to her, I have purpose. You don't.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:14

Yeah, that was bad. That was bad. That was that was intense. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:19

And then he's like, I'll help you get the baby adopted, and then she's all like, No, I'm having the baby adopted.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:25

I mean, but in his defense, right? You know, he's pretty much right because she's just having a child, so she doesn't really have purpose in life, you know. Um, where he has a ping pong. So that that all makes sense. You're saying having a baby is no not a purpose, Tony? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's me and Marty both agree on that, which is why the end of the movie is so sad for him because he lost his purpose in life, because now he has a child.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:51

Uh, Rachel goes home, wakes up Ira, sees this black guy, tells him it's not her baby, and then he tells her to stand in the corner.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:01

I actually appreciated that, where he's like, I'm going to destroy everything because I'm so mad. So I need you to steer clear so I don't accidentally hit you. I know that was very interesting. Not good, but just, you know, an interesting character moment. Um Dan, can you explain to me how she knows that it's Marty's child? Oh, because we saw that in the credits. Gotcha! She so she visualized the whole thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:34

Oh, okay, I see. I mean, she could pay attention to her ovulating cycle and maybe when she had sex with him. I mean, I can't. It sure seems like she's, you know, like this is like the 1950s, and so like Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:47

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:48

I have a hard time believing that I you know, I really thought at the very end, Marty's gonna look down at the baby and realize the baby wasn't his. Be like, that baby doesn't look like me at all. They're not my baby. You're like, get uh get what's his name? Uh Jerry Springer.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:06

Get me Jerry Springer on the phone.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:09

So now we've had this sort of Rachel, I guess, goes to live with the his mom, I guess. I guess we never deal with that at all. Um worry about it. And then Marty's finally doing some practicing. Finally doing a little practicing. So Rachel sets up the scam to try to get the 2K out of the dog guy, and it all goes south because they've gotten a fake dog, and and that guy gets they stay st he st murders a guy. And then they don't deal with that at all.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:44

We don't care at all about her friend that gets murdered. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:51

Um, and then she gets grabbed, taken by them. Marty goes to see Kay, watches her show. Oh god, this part. He tries to return before the show, he tries to return the necklace, and then she sees right through him, but then she's like, Here's a ticket, anyways. And in the tickets of things like, meet me at midnight in the park, because I need to find you some more.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:14

Alright, oh, why? Why? This guy's a piece of shit. Why?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:19

At the park, she gives him a real necklace which is worth lots of money. He they start having sex. Um, and here come the cops. The cops are like, You're all going to jail, we know who you are. And then they find the necklace on Marty, and they're like, Oh, but we're just gonna take this necklace and let you go.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:39

So let it go. He's walking her back to the party. She's all he's all like, Give me another necklace, give me another necklace, you gotta give me another necklace, and she's like, Okay, I'm gonna get you a necklace, stay here. She goes upstairs at the party, uh, and the the reviews are coming in. Marty creeps on up there because he's a big piece of shit, and the party is ending. He goes upstairs where she is privately crying because the reviews are terrible. It's hard.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:14

I'll just tell you that. It's tough. It's tough when you when you do the opening night, and then yep. It's hard because so the whole thing is like you have to teach yourself to not believe the good or the bad. That's the only way to survive that sort of thing. Because if you buy into the good, you have to buy into the bad. It's just one of those things. I still remember I did a play probably 20, I'm 25, 26, maybe. I did a I did a musical at the Bloomington Civic Theater, and the review came out, and the review was uh Tony Zek and Robbie McNamy play so broadly the play loses all plausibility. What what was the musical? Um uh it I don't even totally remember. We were like these two old dudes who try to remember the kind of September. Do you know that? I know that song, I don't know what it's from. So that's that's the play, The Fantastics. There we go. I knew I'd get there eventually. I've heard of that. Um, and I play the old actor, and I played him at 25 like this. Um they just fucking destroyed me, and I was like, well, I guess I'm quitting acting and killing myself, is basically how I felt. So I get it. What I'm saying is I get how she's going what she's going through right now, and it it hit home. But were they right? It depends. So, in my view, no, because I think that's where we all should have been. I think Robbie and I were doing what the play is asking for, and I kind of felt like some other people weren't. And so there was it, it does stick out in our performance because we were we were very vaudevillian, we were very theatrical, and everyone was very grounded, and it didn't really mesh, but you know, depends on who you ask.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:09

Ah, so you're getting into conflict with the people that were like living the role. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:14

Yeah, yeah. Like, let's have some fun with it, guys. It's a Broadway show, it's an off off, off, off, off, off, off, off, off, off, off Broadway show, okay? Yeah, it's about as many as good. Interesting. Reviews are tough, that's all. That's all.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:28

See, no, I don't, you know, it's like if you're doing the you know, fuck them.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:35

I I mean I get that, but I love the praise. And so if you accept the praise, you have to accept the the negatives, too. You just accept the praise that's correct. But all praise is correct, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm pretty great, Dan.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:51

No, no, no, no, no. There's correct praise. The praise that you're like, oh, that see any praise that like makes you think about what you're doing and go, like, oh, okay. You know, like you did a good job. You're like, eh, whatever. I don't care. You know, if you if you give me some like very specific praise that's like, oh, you know, that part, you're like, there it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:11

You know what's the worst, Dan, is when someone is says it with surprise and they're like, Wow, you were actually good tonight. I know you know exactly what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:20

I I that's my favorite kind of praise. That's the best praise of all.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:25

I don't know about when they come up because they're like, You're actually funny. Sure, but he just taught me a class for eight weeks. That shouldn't be his response to be like, huh. You know, you actually were good up there. I can't believe it after knowing you for eight weeks. Um I was I love Jaylay. Oh, did Jay did Jay say that the other time? Yeah, that was Jay.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:49

You're actually funny. Yeah, thanks, Jay. Um, you know, I I always think back to the improv days when I had to deal with uh what's her name? Oh, I can't even think of her name. Who was the big teacher? Karen, Karen Mariama. Karen.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:04

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:05

And I took her class and she was brutal to me. But that was like this other guy that was terrible, and she loved him, you know, because he would march around like a soldier. I'm like, go fuck yourself. This isn't funny. Um, but then you know, like a year passes, and then I'm in the audience, and she has a show, and there's only like 11 people in the whole audience, and she needs suggestions because it's improv.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:26

And I'm like, fuck you, Karen. Nah. Not gonna happen. And she came banging to me for suggestions, and I'm like, there it is, I have won. And that was the point at which I won. And like her all the her voice that was in my head just disappeared because I was the winner. She needed me for once, and she had to admit that she needed me.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:50

I like that I like that for you. Yeah, that's nice.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:53

But that's how you have to live your life. You're like defeating your enemies, crushing them, bones.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:59

Yeah, but I you know, I just lose.

The Spanking Scene And Total Humiliation

SPEAKER_05 1:24:02

See, Tony, you you you want. Okay, here we go. Let's do this. Uh the steal the necklace, uh, hanging out by the door, partying, goes upstairs, she's crying, give me another chance. There are no second- oh wait, he goes back downstairs to Kevin O'Leary, he's like, give me another chance. And he's like, There's no second chances in life. You were rude and copy. Then he gets one. And he's like, I'll do anything. And then he's like, Go grab a paddle, and then he's like, pull down your pants, bend over, and then we can see to Chalamy's butthole.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:38

Great butt shot. Great, great butt shot.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:41

You have no power here. And the laugh fuckers, the old rich fuckers laughed as he smacks his ass.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:51

Real weird. It's really weird.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:56

I'm just like, what what am I supposed to feel about this?

SPEAKER_02 1:24:59

I don't know the answer to that. I really don't. I have no idea. But I'm watching it and I'm like, huh? This is weird. This is a weird moment that someone wrote.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:09

You know what would be really good at here is where we paddled him with a ping bong bubble.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:14

What if we took his pants down and spanked his little pink butt? You know? That's great. I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:24

So boom, he goes back.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:25

Did I enjoy it? Sure. Sure. I enjoyed it. I just thought it was a little weird.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:30

Did you enjoy it in an erotic way? Is that what you're saying, Tony?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:33

Like more than the sex scenes, you know what I mean? This was the sexiest scene in the whole movie. This was this was the pinnacle of where we got sexiness from. And then, you know, all downhill from here.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:46

So he goes back to the ping pong parlor, and lo and behold, there is the guy with the lost dog, and he's all like, I got you go for your pregnant girlfriend, and you gotta come with me. That's almost successful. I got your girlfriend. And if you don't come with me right now, I'm gonna take a hammer to her. Like, okay, goes downstairs. They drive to New Jersey, gun battle, everybody's dead, Rachel is shot.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:17

They leave the dog there, and then they they steal the car and then drive back. Another car window shot out. But first, Dan she's like she's she's like, go get the money. He's got$2,000 in his pocket. He goes there. It's really just a few ones with some pictures of nudie ladies on it, so it's not money. Right. Right. What he wasn't gonna give him 2,000, he wasn't gonna give him$2,000.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:42

Sh I mean, I I get that.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:44

He could have, but it was against his own. He was principled. That's the whole thing. Is the criminal that guy was actually print. That's the the whole thing is I think everybody else in the movie, maybe that's what this movie is about, is to show that somebody like Marty is completely unprincipled.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:00

Sure.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:01

Because the Kevin O'Leary character, he's principled in his own twisted way. Yeah, sure. The dog guy is principled. The his his friend who helps him scam those guys is principled. That I agree with 100%. But he is he's that's the whole thing. Is if a character is unprincipled, you're just like, there's nothing to hang your hat on with them. It's just like, yeah. I don't want to why why why are you creating a character that's unprincipled? Because most I don't that's a question. Are most people in life unprincipled or are most people principled? That's your question. Most people you don't ever want to deal with are unprincipled. That's the key.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:39

Yeah, yeah. And then we're just forced to. We're just forced to deal with this for 90 two hours. So but why why are there nudie photos in it? I just needed paper. That was the only paper you had laying around. Oh, you think that's what it is? Okay. Great. So then why does it make the watch thick? I mean, I I I get that. I just feel like there's probably other paper around.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:03

It's usually usually phone books are newspaper, typically. Great.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:06

Well, yeah, but did they have phone books in the 30s? You know? We don't know. Uh Dan knows he was there. He probably made the phone books. But he was a phone book guy for many years. Dan's always got stories. Um why are you coming at me? Like I don't know. I'm I'm all fired up about this movie. I don't know. Tony's getting to the end. He's all like he goes back to the car and she's like, Was there money? And he's like, Yep, tons of it. Oh, did he say that? Yeah, he said it. And I was like, no, there wasn't. What? Oh, well, he didn't want to bad. He didn't want to give her more worries, her being shot. Is that what it is? He's trying to save her from worrying that there's not enough money. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:47

Let me okay. Let's let's let's let's shoo on the other foot. You're you're Marty Supreme, I'm Rachel. Got it. He comes back to there and says, Oh yeah, it was a bunch of nudie pictures at$4. I'm gonna be like, wait, what what the fuck? I just went through all of this shit and got shot, and you got fucking$4? What the fuck? You're so dumb.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:11

Yeah, you did a terrible job, Rachel. This is why I'm not gonna take care of our baby, Rachel. That's what I would say, you know?

SPEAKER_05 1:29:18

Uh they get to the hospital, the baby's fine, but Marty can't get out of there quick enough. He's just like, oh I can't, you know, it's like that. This was the only part in the whole movie where I like I was I was with Marty, you know, where you're just like where you're like in your relationship and there's something you really want to do. You're just like sure, oh yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:40

Uh I yeah, I would I would be right here.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:44

But I'd love to help with the laundry, but I gotta go. It's important.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:52

I'm so sorry. I really wish I could help. Really, really.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:58

Um They fly. I guess he made up with Rockwell somewhere. Oh, because he got paddled.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:04

Well, because of the spanking, yeah. Like now that he's his sex slave, it's all good.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:10

God only knows what orifices Marty had to offer up on that plane. That's a long flight. It's like, what are you doing to Marty now? Well, you can have him for an hour. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:20

Don't roll the cameras on this, guys.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:23

So so they we we don't, you know, if this was like a a movie movie, you'd have a thing where Marty would show up and he'd, you know, he'd be like, is this happening? Some shit some shit. Go into that airport, you would just be like sweating bullets.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:40

That's for sure. Yeah. I wouldn't be getting on that plane at that point.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:45

This whole movie, it actually, this whole movie spends all of its time not putting in the scenes where Marty Marty actually has to go through a thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:54

For sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:56

All of the things all those we skip all the real things and just have the things where where Marty's fucking things up and blowing smoke up people's asses before they get fucked.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:07

Yes, correct. Yeah.

Japan Match Pig Kiss And Public Meltdown

SPEAKER_05 1:31:09

Okay. Here we are. We're in Japan. We're at the Rockwell event. Marty's waiting in line with a hat. They send him to the back of the line. He sees the head of head of ping pong, goes over there and is like, Oh, I'm here. Check me out. I got the money, I'm paying you back. And this guy's all like, I don't care. Too late. I don't care. The brackets are set. You're not you're not part of the situation. What do you? And that's the thing. He would know that if he's really part of the thing, right? Sure. You would think. There's deadlines and there, you know, there's yeah. People understand the you know, it's like when you start at groundlings, you learn that process where it's like, oh, you got the they released the classes, you do the class. You know, you when you're trying to do something, you want to learn the rules. Because if you don't know the rules, you're not gonna get anywhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:59

Correct. Yeah, it's tough.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:00

Stuff, whatever. That's weird. He's all like, you know, he was like, it's difficult for me to come here. The guy's just like, you know, here's a bird, go go sit on it. Sit and spin, baby. So he goes out there, it's finally his turn, he's you know, ready to play endo, and they're all like, if you lose, you gotta kiss a pig.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:25

A pig? What? Well, they explained it. I don't remember what it was. Did they? I I must not have been paying attention.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:34

So he loses 14 to 20. Well, they something like, if you're gonna act like a pig, you should kiss a pig. They said that. I don't know if that's that's that was the explanation. That's it. Okay. No need to go deeper than that. It's fine.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:49

Uh, and then Marty is supposed to lose. He properly loses 14 to 21, just as it was supposed to be. And then the head of ping pong comes up there and he's all like, next week the big thing, but first we get an American kissing a pig. And then Marty explodes. But does he explode, Tony? Does he really freak out?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:06

No, nope, not really. He's just like, hey, you know what? I'm gonna let's do it for real instead. This wasn't that fun for me. Let's do it for real. And everyone's like, okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:16

Now Marty says, This was all a sham. We this was supposed to be 14 that's the part at which I lose all respect for Marty. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:30

Sure. I can't believe you had it up until this moment, but great.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:34

But that's you know, like, that's unforgivable, is is airing like the pr the truly private stuff, right? Because that that humiliates you and them, right? You're just like you that's that's the part that you leave. Well, that's his thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:49

He's he's burning down the whole place. He's like, if I'm going down, I'm taking all you down with me.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:54

But that's not what you do. You take all of them down.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:56

We shouldn't.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:57

Right? You shouldn't.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:00

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:02

He's not very bright. I don't know if you've been watching this movie, Dan. He's not too bright.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:06

So they have the real game. Oh, I burped.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:11

Thank you for the update.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:13

We have the real game. Um but then Rockwell talks to him before the real game, and he's all like, I'm a vampire, Marty. You gotta lose this. If you don't lose this, you're gonna become like me. Yeah. Well, what what was that speech? What was that about? Do you want to talk about it now?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:32

I mean, if you want to, I I didn't understand that speech at all. Okay, well, reports are that the original ending of the film.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:42

There's an original ending of the film?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:44

The original written ending of the film.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:46

Okay, well let's finish it. Okay, let's finish the film because it's just it's just put a pin in that then.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:51

Put a pin in that.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:52

Okay, so he says, I'm a vampire. If you win, if you win, you're gonna become a vampire. Yeah, basically, you're gonna not ever be able to be a human being.

unknown 1:35:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:02

Mart Marty goes on to win. Kevin O'Leary's pissed at him, so he has to take a military flight back. Takes a military flight back, sees Rachel, she's like, uh he's like, I gotta see my I gotta see my baby. Goes in there, she does have a living baby. I was like, maybe kill the baby. Um God rolls over, shows him the baby, and Marty cries tears of joy. The end. Big music up.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:32

Supposedly. Yeah, supposedly.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:33

Uh cute tears for fears. Everybody wants to root the room.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:44

Yeah, it's good.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:44

So that's the end. Um I'm sitting I'm sitting there, Tony's thinking, like, there it is. He's trapped, he's never going to escape, he's never gonna fulfill his dreams, he's crushed. I'm thinking so like he's gonna spend a couple days with the baby, leave it with his mom, he's out of here with the boys, doing whatever he's yours.

The Cut Vampire Ending Rumor Explained

SPEAKER_02 1:36:02

Makes more sense because he didn't learn a gosh darn thing in this whole movie. So he's not changing for sure. Yeah, I get that. Um, so the reportedly the original ending of this film, ready. Um the end of the film would be Timothy Chalamet with his granddaughter in the 1980s at a Tears for Fears concert, and Kevin O'Leary shows up looking the same age and bites him and turns him into a vampire. That is the original ending of the movie. He's really a vampire and he really curses Timothy Chalamet. That is the that was what was written. And apparently, again, this is all reports. I don't know, but A24 was like, no, nope, that's not the end of the movie. That's crazy. Uh, we can keep in the vampire thing as a metaphor because he's like a blood-sucking capitalist. That's fine. But he's not really a vampire. That's crazy. You're not like you're not like pranking me. You're not like uh I'm not pranking you. This is again, I don't know if it's true. This variety reported on it. Variety report. It's true. So like variety polygon wrote about there's people that I trust that wrote this. Um, and I I think I think it's real, Dan. I think that's the original thing of the movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:30

And then that's why we had all this the 80s music.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:33

All the tears for fears, all the 80s is because it's basically like I assume him like looking back at how he got to this point where he's a vampire.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:42

But was he still it was but I mean, but Timothy ages, is he still gonna look like a rat?

SPEAKER_02 1:37:48

Uh well, he's probably like a little bit older, more wrinkly rat, yeah. Probably even more like a rat now that you say it. I don't know, man. This movie was weird. I I don't know. It's super weird. I don't I I'm not gonna say that I hated this movie, but I didn't like this movie, you know. I I didn't think, boy, this should get an Oscar.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:11

No, it didn't make me think anything about people, you know. I I don't go through this and go like, oh, this this is a character, this is a character, it's like a character for the ages where you're like, oh, this is somebody who goes through stuff and you know, yeah, makes questionable decisions, you know, because he doesn't even make questionable decisions, he's just like, oh, who can I exploit and then just sort of wander away and hope that nothing, you know, it's like you're gonna go to jail for smacking that guy in the face, you know? Oh my god. I mean, you would certainly think so, because that guy's dead. God, we were watching this uh oh, one of the new police shows, you know, one where they like follow this guy goes and he kills the kills this kid walking home, and then they figure out who the guy is by looking at you know all the security cameras. Don't do any crimes, people, because there's security cameras everywhere. You will get caught.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:05

Yeah, you're you're in the wrong generation. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:09

And that's and that's why you set movies like this in in the 50s, is because you couldn't put because he couldn't get away with any of this stuff. Yeah, there would have been, you know, the the the shootout at the farmhouse with 12 dead people, it would lead right back to Marty. Everyone would know it was him and he would be going to jail. There's ten things in this movie that if it happened now, everybody's gonna be in jail. You can't do it anymore. Um, so they figure out this guy. This guy, like they f they they they find him, follow him in the car, he takes off, has a gigantic crash, and then he's wandering out of his car, his eyeball is hanging out.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:45

Why? What why because he was in a big crash?

SPEAKER_06 1:39:49

His eyeball saying, Why are you telling me this story? Because there's actual consequences to things in life.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:56

And that's what this movie doesn't feel like there's actual consequences to things in life.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:01

Jesus.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:02

That's what happens to you in life. You kill somebody in an eye speed chase, your eye falls out. You're down an eyeball. Down an eyeball. And you're going to jail for a long time. Think about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:15

You watch weird shows, Dan. Dark stuff over there. Any final notes about this uh classic movie, Tony? It's not worth sitting through, in my opinion. That's all. I don't hate it, I don't like it, but like I wish I didn't have to do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:30

Just you know, skip to the part where the ping pong balls fall out of the window. That's the best part.

Final Verdict Plus What We Watched

SPEAKER_02 1:40:35

It's a fun shot. Yeah, it's a fun shot. I don't know what it means. I don't really understand the deeper meaning of it, but it looks nice. So that's something.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:42

Tony, we need a movie for next week.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:45

We're gonna talk about what we liked this week.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:48

Tony, what'd you like this week?

SPEAKER_02 1:40:49

Boy, oh boy. Uh, so we started watching Rooster because you said it was good, and Dan is delightful. I just uh we're loving it so much. He's wonderful.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:59

There's care everybody's a character, everybody has motivations that are personal and not necessarily and could conflict and also don't you know it's like the the the wife's husband. You're like he's he's he's he's an awful who's Jamie Tarr?

SPEAKER_02 1:41:18

From Ted Lasso? Jamie Tart? No, that's the character from Ted Lasso. Jamie Tart? The soccer player? Oh the footy player? Yeah. He's really good. Anyhow, he's great. Yeah, he's great.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:32

He's great. And and you're just like, he's a character you should just hate, but you're also like, he has caught himself in a position and he's screwed.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:42

He done fucked up.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:43

He's screwed for what he did, and you're just like, I it's yeah, it's interesting.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:48

Yeah, it's a great show.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:49

I think I've only watched three of them. I gotta go back, it's much more.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:52

Yeah, you gotta go back and watch more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There it is. What about you? Did you enjoy anything other than guys' eyes falling out of their heads?

SPEAKER_05 1:41:59

So I'm sitting there and watching Marty Supreme, and it's on HBO, it gets to the end, and you know, there pops up all the little things, and there's one of them that's like a bowling thing. I'm like, what the fuck is that? Okay. So I pull that up. HBO also, HBO Max said they born to bowl, five five episodes produced by Ben Stiller, looking at real professional bowlers. Okay. You watch like you watch the first, you know, the five-minute intro, and you're just like, this is one thousand times better than anything in Marty Supreme. These are these are a bunch of real fucking people who are leading real lives, who have a dr who have a sports dream, and and then you know, and you're like, these guys work the the one guy's like because it's like a four-month period of of you know when when all the the is the season. And like one of them's out in like Reno, but most of them are kind of uh Great Lakes area. And he's all like, you can't afford to fly when you have 21 bowling balls that you have to bring with you. He brings 21 bowling balls.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:19

I don't think that's pretty sure you only need two.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:21

I don't think they all have 21 bowling balls, but he brings 21 bowling balls.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:27

That's absurd, and I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:31

And there's there's just some lines in there that these are like real people, they're real people. And Marty Supreme is like some weird caricature of God only knows what. You know, you're right about that. You're just like, this is stupid, you know, and and it's inspirational, and you know, you're it's winning and losing. I just watched the first episode and I was just like, this is the show's a fucking treat. I want to start. I should watch this. I love bowling. You know, give us characters. We want characters. Mario's beef's not a character. He's this thing. He's like, I don't, I'm not gonna dress up for him as Halloween. I don't care. You could though if you want to. And I guess the oh, the Zach Krieger uh Resident Evil uh um trailer dropped.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:17

Oh, I'll have to check that out.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:19

What the fuck is he already shot that movie and they're already dropping a trail?

SPEAKER_02 1:44:22

He I don't know, that can't be right.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:24

When people are young, they in Hollywood and they, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:29

Yeah, he's he's gung-ho. Yeah, he's going for it. He's got a man on a mission.

Next Week Pick Tron Ares

SPEAKER_04 1:44:33

Tony, what do you got for us?

SPEAKER_02 1:44:37

Well, I guess do you want to pivot and do Under the Silver Lake or are you over that idea? You want to wait a little bit to do it?

SPEAKER_06 1:44:43

Let's wait a little bit to do that one. All right, we're gonna go to the movie that I want to do. We have to do Under the Silver Lake. We have to do that movie at some point.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:51

We'll put a pin in it because we need to do Jared Leto before we forget.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:57

We need to do Jared Leto.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:59

Um, Jared Leto. What do I think? The Joker, he's the Joker in the Suicide Squad movies.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:05

Great, great. He's uh This is me doing the smile. Did you get it? This is the smile on his hand. You don't remember that.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:11

I do. I do when you mention it. He's Morbius. We did Morbius, we loved it.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:15

Yeah, we did this movie ever. This is not gonna be as good as Morbius. I'll let's just put that out there right now. Nothing will compare.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:22

There was actually a performance. Matt Smith actually did a performance.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:26

Yes, he did. Yeah, he was having a good time.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:29

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:30

Okay, Tony, we're going cherry.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:32

Well, let's see who else is in this cast. Maybe someone will have a performance in this one. Um nope. Nah. I'm just kidding. Evan Peters is in it, you know, Jeff Bridges. That's what I'm saying. I love Evan Peters. Oh, we're doing Tron Aries. We're doing Tron Aries. Yeah, I have to do it. I just the trailer itself just looks so stupid to me. This is this is the latest. This is the latest one. This is the 2025 banger. So I'm gonna go. I'm just gonna be in under under two hours, which is nice. So that's a nice reprieve from what you just did. It's under two hours. It's under two hours. 159. It's not a lot under two hours, but that's with all the the GFX in this, it's gotta be uh, you know, 152.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:17

It could be it could be a 30-page script.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:20

Could be, could be now did you? Um I just thought it looks silly. Uh I needed I need to watch it.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:26

Yeah, that sounds perfect. Um uh did you see the the one before this one?

SPEAKER_02 1:46:33

I have. I have seen it's two, right? There's two because they do the original one and then the second one in the 80s, and then they came out with one in like 2000 something that I saw in high school. He's like a bass jumper. Yes, yep. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:51

Okay. What's her name? What's her name?

SPEAKER_02 1:46:54

It's gonna be good.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:55

What's her name? Very attractive in that that movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:58

Um who?

SPEAKER_05 1:46:59

Olivia Wilde? Olivia Wilde.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:02

Yeah, some stuff going on around her, huh? It doesn't matter. We're not gonna comment on Olivia Wilde. She's great, she's wonderful, can't wait to see her. Uh we did her movie with uh with uh oh the one, yeah, yeah. Sorry, Darling. Yeah, no, that's that movie that's quite right, but it's close.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:21

That movie was sad. But that you know, it's like you look at that movie, you're like, well, at least she was trying.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:25

Don't worry, darling. That's what it was.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:27

Oh, that one had your boy in it. You loved him in that. Yeah, he was good.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:30

Yeah, Harry Styles, my boy.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:32

No, not Harry Styles. Not Harry Styles, the other guy. Harry Styles, looking like a looking like a pig pigman.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:39

No, Chris Pine is who I like in that movie. Yeah, Harry Styles. So unattractive in that movie. Yeah, no good. Chris Pine, great, love that guy. Watch Star Trek again this week. I love that movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:53

Even though Pool Man was terrible, uh, he was he you're just like Pool Man wasn't great. Pool Man was not good.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:02

Not good. Okay, though. I mean, he did Dungeons and Dragons, so that makes up for pretty much anything else, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:08

And he wasn't in um uh what was uh Honey Don't.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:14

Oh god.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:16

Yeah, see this one more of those coming out? It's supposed to be they're supposed to make a third one.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:20

It's a trilogy, right? Oh, can't wait. Can't wait. It's gonna be good.

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SPEAKER_02 1:48:38

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SPEAKER_05 1:48:46

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