Hate Watching with Dan and Tony
Hate Watching with Dan and Tony
Hate Watching Five Nights At Freddy’s 2: The Ghosts in the Machines
A killer marionette, a sleepy music box, and a town that throws a FazFest for reasons no one can explain—welcome to our breakdown of Five Nights at Freddy’s 2, where the lore expands and the logic contracts. We dig into the 1982 prologue that binds Charlotte’s ghost to the puppet, the early-2000s reset that reopens old wounds, and the sequel’s habit of inventing rules only to ignore them when the plot needs a shortcut.
We walk through the set pieces that actually slap: the ghost-hunter incursion at the original location and the eerie boat-ride tunnel lined with tiny puppet figures that swarm like piranhas. The craft shines in these scenes—moody lighting, tactile animatronics, and a sense of place that finally feels dangerous. Then the film pivots back to a perimeter lock that makes little sense, a remote-control marionette that can apparently signal anywhere, and a town-wide FazFest that’s constantly mentioned but never shown. Horror thrives on rules and payoff; this story keeps moving the goalposts.
Characters nearly rescue the chaos. Abby’s robotics arc and the science fair debacle give us a grounded angle that could have centered the movie’s heart. Vanessa’s dream duel with her father hints at an internal battle that deserved more time. And when Mike tricks an animatronic with a faceplate “friendly” scan—a wink to the games—we’re reminded how playful this universe can be. Our biggest plea: honor the music box. It’s the most elegant mechanic in the film, a physical clock for dread, and the climax forgets to keep it wound.
By the end, ghost kids rip apart the villains and ascend, the body count stays oddly low for a sequel, and we’re left convinced there’s a sharper movie beneath the noise—one where children’s belief keeps Freddy’s legend alive while adults try to bury it. If that tension drives part three, there’s still hope for this franchise to feel both scary and coherent. Enjoy the ride, shout along at the plot holes, and tell us what worked for you. If you’re into thoughtful takedowns of messy sequels, hit follow, share with a friend, and drop your hottest FazFest theory in a review.
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SPEAKER_03:You took notes.
SPEAKER_02:I started I started hot and I took oof almost a full page of notes in like the first 20, 30 minutes, and then when the plots finally came in, I was like, huh. Guess I don't need any more notes.
SPEAKER_04:So hopefully you'll know what you can explain the plot to me. Oh, oh, I can I can do it.
SPEAKER_01:Dan and Tony.
SPEAKER_03:Welcome watching with Dan and Tony.
SPEAKER_04:I'm Dan. And I'm Tony. There's a gardener working outside cutting down all the dead trees in our next door neighbors. Yeah. So you might hear. I don't hear.
SPEAKER_02:Actually, if you could just do that every once in a while to remind us that there's a gardener there, I think that would really help.
SPEAKER_04:Each week we pick a movie and we try and try and do something louder than The Gardener. And this week, I believe it was Tony that picked a movie for us to show it about.
SPEAKER_00:Really knocked this one out of the park, guys.
SPEAKER_04:How many sequels of movies we already did have we done? We've we've done both the avatars, two of two avatars. Did we do last avatar? We didn't do the first avatar. Are you sure? I have no idea. We've done some avatars.
SPEAKER_02:We'll be doing the next avatar at some point.
SPEAKER_04:I don't think we did Avatar 1. I don't know. Because Avatar 1 is not terrible.
SPEAKER_02:But it's not good. I'll tell you that. But it's not the second one, it was terrible. Second one's a bad, a very, very bad movie. The first one's just like Pocahontas, but done in for a trajillion dollars. Is that a number? Trigillion? It made a trajillion, yes. Yeah, yeah. Well, so did the other ones, don't they? Although I think I read the one that came out, the newest one was like a billion dollars behind the other two, or something like that.
SPEAKER_04:My buddy Mike told me that that second one came out like right when 3D was hot, or certain sort, you know, so it was like it was really poised to, you know, get get a bonus exploitation that this one just even, you know, I'm sure this one's basically just as successful, but it does didn't have that kind of extra bump. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. It's also probably the exact same movie. We'll find out.
SPEAKER_04:It is the exact same movie, except there's like a sexy, sexy blue one that you're all like, Hatcha Mama.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, that's my favorite thing. Oh boy. I'm excited to see this movie.
SPEAKER_04:Sexy blue.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Because she seems very sexy and very blue. So the bluer the better, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04:Um what what other sequels? What other movies have we done? Baby Gilmore 2? No, we didn't do Happy Gilmore 1, though. I'm just saying. Oh, you're saying we had to do Oh, I see what you're saying.
unknown:I know.
SPEAKER_02:No, damn. We've done 270 episodes. You should have done this homework before. Oh no, we've done. I mean, are those sequels or that they're just a a trilogy of the I don't know. Well, they're bad.
SPEAKER_04:We will do all three of those. So, Tony, what movie are we doing? That's uh, of course we did the first one of.
SPEAKER_02:So the first one was incredible. Um, best horror movie in decades, some would say. I don't know those people, but some people have said it. Some might say. Some might, they might not. They might. I don't know. Um, this is um based on a video game series. Five nights at Freddy's two. Is there a colon? There's not, is there? No colon.
SPEAKER_04:No, no colonies thing. You know, no, yeah. Nope. Back to the original, not back to the original location and not the franchise location that was three miles away.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, just a couple feet. I don't know. You can bike to both of them. So so dumb. Oh boy, oh boy, I'm excited. Um, a lot of people have a lot of bad things to say about this movie. Are they right? I would assume so. I haven't read I haven't read much. I'll tell you that.
SPEAKER_04:I just read, you know, because there's they they just basically make up all this new backstory to have to do with these same exact characters.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, well, they create a new puppet that's not even in the first one. That seems weird. Maybe that happens in the games. I'm sure it does. We're not we don't play the games, but that's weird. It's pretty weird.
SPEAKER_04:Last time I read about the games, there was like this whole thing where they were all like, you see the the the light blue bear, but there's also the you see in the background the slightly darker blue bear. That's this bear that means that this, that means that this, and this is a thing. So all I see in these robots, they all look the same to me. You know, there's there's Chica who's a chicken who's yellow, but then there's a bear and a fox, and then there's one that's a snake, but it's also it's a fox, but it seems like it's a snake, because it doesn't like it. Like that was attacking a car at one point, and I was like, what's happening? Sure. Yeah, it's this whole, and you know, and then in this one we have multiple sets of them, and you're just like, Oh my god, and like there's one killing a child at the beginning, and I don't know what that creature is. There's not a good differentiation of all the creatures.
SPEAKER_02:Well, the one for the record, the one in the beginning, that's Matthew Lillard in this in the suit, right? What's he? What is he? He's the dad from the first one who was the killer. Well, I don't remember what animal he is, but I he's a human. You saw it in this movie. There's there's one thing I don't. I don't remember from when I watched it last night. Like, I can't picture him in the hallway walking down the thing with the knife. I can't picture it.
SPEAKER_04:He's just another orange big creature. And you're like, I see is that the bear or is that a different creature? You know, they they really don't.
SPEAKER_02:I think it's a different creature.
SPEAKER_04:I think it's a different creature, but I don't know what kind of creature it is.
SPEAKER_02:It's a it's an animatronic. I won't worry about it. Does that does that creature ever appear again in this movie? I don't think so. Not in this movie. Because, you know, he's dead and all. Because he died in the last one or something, maybe. Did he die? But he's gonna come back as a ghost, is you know, they set up at the end.
SPEAKER_04:Well, the kids are going away. Now hold on. So at the end of this movie, we see the one thing laying there. Is that is that the Matthew Lillard puppet? Robot?
SPEAKER_02:Like the at the post-credits where it's in the bag or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's him. Okay, so that's the Matthew Lillard. Oh, yeah, he's coming back as a ghost. Number three, coming at ya. So we'll be doing that in a year.
SPEAKER_04:So this movie basically what happens is we find out, I'm gonna do the quick overview, then we'll talk about we find out that there's an original Five Nights at Freddy's, Freddy's Freddy Freddy Fazbear, and this little girl gets killed there. No, this little girl, yes, little girl gets killed there, and then her ghost gets trapped there inside this marionette puppet that can only be stopped by a music box, but then the music box breaks somehow. I don't I don't know if we know how it breaks.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, no. The girl, the ghost chaser turns it off. Oh, really? She did that in the movie. Yeah, so apparently it's been running for 20 years. As far as I can tell, that's the plot. This music box has been spinning for 20 years, and this girl comes in and just turns it off, and then boom, ghost comes out.
SPEAKER_04:Ghost comes out.
SPEAKER_02:That's what I got.
SPEAKER_04:Ghost kills her, takes her over, but then has to take over the girl from the first movie because a reason. Maybe there's a reason.
SPEAKER_02:And then But she but she doesn't kill that girl. So I don't I don't understand the rules. Sorry, continue. This is the quick overview, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_04:And then when she takes over the other girl, she gets out and she wants to kill parents. And they how do they get her back to the first then they get her back, oh, they get her to go back and then they turn on another music box and stop her.
SPEAKER_02:I think that's the plot. I mean, yeah, yeah, that's sort of yeah, you got it. That's I would say you're 95% there. That's pretty good. I guess it's a good movie. All right, let's wrap it up. Good job, everybody. Especially on the floor. Um it's confusing, right? Um baffling.
SPEAKER_04:You know, because well, the video game, because I watched part of the video game before we ever did any of these movies. And the video game is you just have to sit in this chair and then eventually the robots kill you. And you can't. Well, you mean you don't want them to kill you? But but you don't even see them, you just you sit in this chair, and there's kind of screens that kind of go, because you're the security guard.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you're the security guard at Freddy's, and the animatronics come to live at night, and then they kill people, right? So you're in the security room, you have to look at the security cameras, and you know, you can see things moving around. It's very creepy. Uh, and you push buttons. So you know how Hutcherson Hutchinson. Hutcherson? Hutcherson. You know how Josh is in the control, like that's closest to the game that we get in either of the movies is that like two-minute segment that sucks. Um really bad. But that's close to what you kind of do in the game. Yeah. I mean, I've only played the first one. I played it just a little bit when we were gonna do this movie, so I was like, I should do my homework. It was fun. I played it on my phone. It was fun. Oh, it was fun. Did you ever succeed at doing something? Dear God, no. I died every single time and I got so mad that I quit. But that's fun. That games don't do that anymore. You know, games are so easy. You got your fortnights, you just you die and you just respawn. Like games that kill you and then you start over, frustrating, but you know, that's how you learn. Suck you in. They suck you in because you're like, golly, I gotta do it again now. Shoot.
SPEAKER_04:I gotta teach this stupid game that I I don't suck. It sucks.
SPEAKER_02:But I did suck.
SPEAKER_04:So okay. So you played a little bit of it. I'm sure we took if you go back and watch the first episode. I'm sure we we did all this exact same things. You know, it's like probably life's just on a we this is part two, so it should just be sort of a repeat of part one. Yeah, but with more carnage. Those are the rules. Yeah, there's like two or three things I liked in this movie, but for the most part, there were it just felt like a weird fever dream. You know, made you go like, made you think, oh, presents. Now that was a movie that made made a lot of sense and kept me engaged.
SPEAKER_02:This movie you're just like oh the amount of times that I brought up Lucy Lou trying to sleep with her son over the last week, by the way, it's a lot. I I'm obsessed with it. It's great stuff. I mean, at least it was something. It was something, and I it it it you know hooked me into the movie. I was ready to go. Let's keep watching it. Let's get a sequel to that, where she's doing some ghost stuff. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04:Let's not do that. Um so anything else to say before we start talking about this movie?
SPEAKER_02:I mean, there's so much to say. We should just start going through it. Hopefully, we cover it all. It's this movie is ridiculous.
SPEAKER_04:Five Nights at Freddy's 2, 2025, hour and 44 minutes. Um, don't know how they filled in hour 44 minutes with this movie.
SPEAKER_02:Because it's very the first 35 minutes is real slow. It's real slow. The ghosts don't even come back until 40 minutes into the movie. What are we doing? We don't need all this, like, oh, we're trying to be normal. I'm gonna go to school and build a robot. What is happening? Sorry, continue.
SPEAKER_04:Uh we're cut we go back to 1982. We're at the original Five Nights of the original Freddy's Fez there. There's a boat right there. Um there's a ball pit that has like a horse thing that we never we never go anywhere near. Never go anywhere that.
SPEAKER_02:It's weird, so I wouldn't go near it in real life either.
SPEAKER_04:There's this weird trapdoor, there's this one little girl, she's waiting for the stage show, and this other girl is all like, you know, okay, you know, come back over there, have some cake, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, she says something to the effect of they're not your like surrogate parents. What did she say? It was the weirdest line of dialogue ever spoken by a child, but it was something about how, like, these aren't your fake parents. Come back to us. It's like, what are you talking about? It's a it's a long marionette. She's the only thing that's ever been there for me. What are you talking about? That's crazy behavior. Someone lock Charlotte up before she becomes a ghost. The problem isn't that she was murdered violently, the problem is she was crazy already. She was a nutso child.
SPEAKER_04:So the the blonde girl who's going to turn out to be Vanessa in the movie brings her a soda, she tastes the soda, and she says, Oh, it tastes like gasoline.
SPEAKER_02:And did you think, like, oh, maybe it is gasoline? What it's not, it's just soda.
SPEAKER_04:No, it but it but the the implication is that there's so much hydraulics and things going on that it tastes like gasoline, I think.
SPEAKER_02:That it seeps into the soda. I don't know, man. We have too many machines.
SPEAKER_04:So she's she's there. Um I think she says about uh the Marionette that it's her spirit parent.
SPEAKER_02:That's the word she says the spirit parent. I was like, that's not normal behavior. That's weird to say. No, that's not a thing people say.
SPEAKER_04:In the first movie, was the Matthew Lillard dad character that was running this place? Was he trying to kill kids to put their ghosts into the robots? Is that the idea?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's the idea. He's murdering kids. He's murdering kids left and right. He loves killing kids.
SPEAKER_04:So he kills kids, or like he puts them and then the robot eats them and goes and they're crunched inside of it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, sorta.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. Yeah. So she's sitting there and she sees uh the evil robot, the evil Matthew Lillard robot, take a kid into the back. She follows. There's the kid laid out on the floor. She picks up the kid, she runs, she reaches the stage, uh, holding the kid, falls. We see she's been stabbed in the back with a knife three times. The pit opens up, you know, the trapdoor, and up comes the Marionette, which is this puppet that looks completely different.
SPEAKER_00:Horrifying.
SPEAKER_04:Horrifying, and it's holding her.
SPEAKER_02:Now, there's a couple things we have to say. So, first of all, she sees the kid get taken, and she goes to all the adults in the room and is like, help me, a boy's in trouble. And all the adults are like, Shut up, little girl. We don't care. One of them's like, go tell your parents. Tell your parents. Don't tell me. I don't give a shit. One of them's like, adults are talking, like, they're the worst people in the world. And right away, I'm hoping for some sort of like um, you know, Keanu Reeves revenge flick where this ghost gets to murder all these shitty parents because they deserve it. I want them to die. So the fact that we don't get to see any of them die, I'm very disappointed by it would pre- it'd be pretty easy to set that up, right? They pretty much did set it up. She went to I assume the couple that she terrorizes later is one of those parents, but I it could just be random parents because this movie sucks. It's it's hard to be sure.
SPEAKER_04:It seems like it's random parents because all the parents that she terror they terrorize have small children.
SPEAKER_02:That's a good point. That's a good point. It's weird. I I don't know. So it should be, she should be getting revenge on the people there it at the minimum. But that doesn't happen. Um, the other thing we need to talk about is she falls to the right on this uh trapdoor, and then when she gets picked up, she's laying on the left. Why how did she flip sides Dan?
SPEAKER_04:You catch her, you kind of flip her over like a paper.
SPEAKER_02:Marionette flips her over, she's doing cartwheel tricks. Now wait a second.
SPEAKER_04:This was in 1982. Yeah. Does that does the movie take place in current times? Because in current times, that would make like it would make it.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, it says 20 years later. Oh. So it's like it's early 2000s or something. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. Um I don't really care about the girl getting flipped over by the marionette. That doesn't bother me.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Okay, Dan. Mr. Forgiveness. The Marionette's pretty creepy. I don't know. That was like, yeah. Yeah, but it doesn't look like any of the other robots. It's so different, like constructually, visually, how it acts. It's weird, right? It's weird. It doesn't make any sense. I agree. It's creepy. It's the creepiest thing in the movie, is just in general. If that was at circus, what is it, Chuck E. Cheese, I wouldn't love Chuck E. Cheese anymore. I'd be like, that place is weird.
SPEAKER_04:And it doesn't make any sense because it's like he makes the robots to put a child inside that gets crushed, and then this robot is doesn't have space inside.
SPEAKER_02:And also apparently this robot controls everyone remotely. What that doesn't make any sense. What does that even mean? That's so I I know we're getting there later, but that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in a movie.
SPEAKER_04:So now we we cut to the we cut to the titles, and in the titles we you know, we slap up newspapers of of what happened, and uh the girl died. Uh they blamed it on her. Yep.
SPEAKER_02:She went into a restricted area. It was a quote unquote accident. She somehow stabbed herself three times. It doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER_04:And and all the local children mourn the marionette. Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Because the parent. I I don't know. It's so weird. So so this place closes, right? This one closes down, and then they open up another one next door. The franchise, which is down the franchise, which what is that?
SPEAKER_04:I don't understand what that means. I want I want to well, you have like the original, then you franchise out the idea, and then anybody could buy it and open it. But this one closed. That's no longer a franchise, right? I don't know. No, no, no, I don't know. It's like the first, you know, like all the five the first ten McDonald's that they had aren't all still open. Sure. Right. Sure. So the very first McDonald's probably isn't in the exact same place being a good one.
SPEAKER_02:But it probably didn't close down because of murder, death of a children, right? And then they open another one next door. I just don't under it just doesn't make any sense to me. But it's fine.
SPEAKER_04:There's no fence around the first one either. Correct.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. No, it's open. You anyone can go in.
SPEAKER_04:And that's what we find through the you know, course of the movie is at times people just ah, let's go loot the let's go loot the place. No, no one's gonna be able to do that. Doors are unlocked, as far as I can tell. Yeah. It's fine. Totally fine. And Tony, you lived in like some backwards kind of place. I have to imagine the kids would like, you know, find places like abandoned buildings and go there to drink beers and and spray paint their names, right?
SPEAKER_02:But yeah, I mean that like ninja turtles. Yeah, yeah, that's what that's what you do. You have your cool hangouts, you find a place to chill. You create skate parks inside, you know? That was the 90s.
SPEAKER_04:Now, you kids would know a place where children were murdered and you would like hang out there, right?
SPEAKER_02:I mean, yeah, we would, for sure. Because that's cool, right? At that age, it's cool. And you go and you're like, oh, it's spooky, it's spooky, and you try to see ghosts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. Did you go to any places when you were a kid that you shouldn't have gone? I mean, we still go to places that are supposedly haunted, not specifically children's murders, to be clear, but you know, haunted places. We stayed at the Overlook Hotel, which isn't obviously the Overlook, but the hotel that the Shining took place at. We've stayed there a couple times to try to see ghosts. Um, that cruise ship down on the coast. We've been there. Queen Mary? Queen Mary, thank you. I was gonna say the St. Margaret, and that's not that's not it.
SPEAKER_04:I'm just wondering if in you you were a kid you guys broken entered into places that were abandoned.
SPEAKER_02:I didn't, I'm a good kid, Dan. I I did not B an E at all. All right. Um Yeah, no, we didn't. But I mean people did for sure. Okay, good.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, oh you're right. 20 years later, boom, here comes Vanessa, the blonde friend. Uh Mike's talking to her on the phone. Abby's his not his kid, is his sister. Can't forget that.
SPEAKER_02:Right, yeah, sister.
SPEAKER_04:And Abby's all like into him getting with uh get with Vanessa. Have you kissed her?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And the answer's no.
SPEAKER_04:He is not, he's got a friend, and his friend is like, she's got crazy eyes. Stay away from that girl, right?
SPEAKER_02:He's not wrong. He's not wrong.
SPEAKER_04:Um, there's something about an ant being committed. I don't know who the ant is. That must have happened in the first one.
SPEAKER_02:So the ant, so that's who was taking care of them in the first one. Uh the ant. I don't remember what happened, but obviously she wasn't a good person.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That's what I'm that's what I'm remembering.
SPEAKER_04:And then this weekend is Freddie Fazbear Festival. Nope. Where everyone in town dresses as Freddie Fazbear and the characters and goes somewhere. We don't know where. They they do stuff in the city. Because we don't go. We don't really.
SPEAKER_02:We talk about it the whole movie. We never go. What are you talking about? What is going on in this place? I don't understand. First of all, why is there a Faz Fest? Nobody cares. Because the kids care, because the kids, I mean, the But the kids don't do festivals. The town has to put on the festival. Otherwise, just like a get-together. Like, hey, let's go hang out. But it's a festival, it's a town festival, as far as I can tell. It is a town festival. No one would do that. No one would put that on. That doesn't exist. That's not real. Um, and then we talk about it the whole time. The science teachers all mad. He's like, you all are so focused on Faz Festa, you're not getting ready for the science fair. But we don't go. We go to the science fair, which I do not care about at all. So weird, Dan. Is it gonna be in the third one? I hope so. Is that what's gonna happen? I hope so.
SPEAKER_04:It's uh it's all it's a bit it's a big setup.
SPEAKER_02:It's it is a big setup. I mean, we end on quite the cliffhanger.
SPEAKER_04:Now, this is like one of the best the best scenes in the movie. Abby's taking the bus to school, and she basically lays out like the whole plot of the first movie, yeah, and the kids are loving it. The kids love it. And that's we eat that shit up, and that sort of hints at what this movie could be about, where like the robots engender themselves to the children, and then the children keep the myth alive, and and the parents are always like, No, we we don't want to go back to that crazy puppet show place, but the kids are like forcing it. She's writing a real movie, you think about that, and so they get this and you know, normally the the kid that had been through this experience will be like, She's crazy, everyone hates her because she's crazy. They kind of love her. We we sort of switch that later, but at this point, she's fun, yeah. They kind of love it, so I like this. And she's all like uh, you know, all the robots got broken, but my stupid dad says he's gonna go back there with me someday and we're gonna find brother. Oh, brother. It's her brother. Oh, it seems so like her dad. He acts like her dad the whole movie. Well, you're right about that. And then there's like this one little nerdy kid who they don't do anything with. It's all like, you know, she's all like, you know, you're still putting up with me after everything I said. He's all like, well, when you believe in Bigfoot and UFO, UFOs are ghosts. I'm up for I'm up for anything. I love this kid. Cute kid, I love it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he needs to have more screen time. He better be in three. He better be in three, I'm telling you that right now.
SPEAKER_04:Uh, the the the girl who plays Abby, getting a little old.
SPEAKER_02:She's not 11. I she might be, I don't know, but she's what, six feet tall now? I don't know. She's she's yeah.
SPEAKER_04:They kind of have her dressed up as a kid that's much younger, but you feel like but she's she's old.
SPEAKER_02:I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_04:Moving past it.
SPEAKER_02:I'm gonna try to see if I can see how old she is. Um uh born wow, she was born in 2013, so she's probably only 14, 15, but that's a big that's a big jump. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? She's 13. 2016. Yeah, she's 13. I guess a yeah. Yeah, she's still growing. Um we could feel bad.
SPEAKER_04:We get the kids in science class, they're doing robotics. Uh, Wayne Knights playing the teacher.
SPEAKER_02:Was there a robotics class in middle school slash mate? Because they're 11. That's middle school. Yeah, probably at this point. In the 80s? I mean, I just I never did uh, you know, we had like wood shop since 2000.
SPEAKER_04:Since 2002. Oh, this is 2002, I forgot.
SPEAKER_02:You're right.
SPEAKER_04:Uh still. I don't know. Probably a little early. But I remember God, I was doing I was doing some comic show down in in um Long Beach, probably at least 10 years ago, and they had a whole robot thing. You know, there was a million kids there all bringing their robots. Robots are a thing.
SPEAKER_02:All right. Yeah, I I mean I'm old. I don't know anything. It's called STEM. Look at that. Yeah, I've seen no, I've seen dolls. I've sold STEM dolls at my my my other job. My eBay selling job. Oh it doesn't, yeah, yeah. But when I was selling for an online TikTok shop. This was some weird sold stem dolls.
SPEAKER_04:Pervy thing. Um my stem dolls.
SPEAKER_02:So this is real.
SPEAKER_04:He she's working on a robot, she's having trouble. The teacher hates her for no reason.
SPEAKER_02:Hates her so much, thinks she's so stupid. Just tries to convince her not to come to the science fair and then crosses her name out of the of the list. It's pretty wild. It's I don't understand why he's such a jerk.
SPEAKER_04:We needed a line or two. I can't write that line because I don't know what what line you're gonna have to write to make a teacher just hate a kid who's trying. You know, if she wasn't trying is she's like, she's not a slacker, she's trying so hard.
SPEAKER_01:You piece of shit.
SPEAKER_02:Why are you trying so hard at school? You little moron! I'll teach you to hate school, you little monster.
SPEAKER_04:It's like, huh? You know, maybe I don't know how to do it.
SPEAKER_02:So weird. It's great, wonderful stuff.
SPEAKER_04:Uh she goes home, she has to fix dad's tie for his uh for his date. She wants to go to Freddy's, and then she's like, you know, he's like, yeah, you can't go back there. It's it's a bad place.
SPEAKER_02:Which is the right call.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:From all the, you know, the murders and stuff.
SPEAKER_04:We also set up this this like this haunted something TV, haunted courthouse on this haunted show, haunted something.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's like a ghost chaser type show.
SPEAKER_04:So we set up a ghost chaser show. They sort of watch it, so we're like, okay, I don't know what that means. Uh he get he goes to the dinner with Vanessa. You look great, so do you. Um and then Vanessa's like, you gotta stop giving your kid not your kid, your sister, hope about the robots that at Freddy's.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And then does the date kind of disintegrate after that?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they kind of argue a little bit, and then we and that's it, and then we go home. Is there any chemistry between these two characters? Well, no, but as you, you know, that's why they never consummate the relationship, you know, with a kiss, obviously. He never kisses her.
SPEAKER_04:They do that kiss later, I think, don't they? Do they? Maybe. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I don't remember that.
SPEAKER_04:Uh he gets home, he realizes that Abby has gone to Freddy's. He gets there, he finds he misses the sign. What?
SPEAKER_02:Their door is glass, right? They have a glass window in their door. There's a giant sign on the glass, and he misses it. He just walks in the house. You don't see the big black mark on your window. It's very strange. And because he can't find the where are you? Where are you? And then he comes back and pulls it off. You would see that immediately. You'd be like, Why is there a big black thing on my window right here? Maybe. I hope so.
SPEAKER_04:There's some uh some dog poop on the on the street out there today. And like I'll I'll see it and I'll be like, I gotta remember that. And then I walk back and I've got I've forgotten that you know, the thing I saw like three minutes before, I forget. And then I walk it back and I'm like, oh man, I hope I missed it. I hope I didn't step right in it. But I'm I'm quite a bit older than Josh Hutch Hutcherson.
SPEAKER_02:Well, you know, he's got a he's got a daughter, so who knows?
SPEAKER_04:Uh so he finds her, there she's sitting on the floor, and then you know, then they they talk about the robots, and he's like, Well, they've gone to heaven, and then she's like, they'll always be in your heart. He's like, It'll always be in your heart. And she's like, That's cheesy, dad. Cute moment, dad. Oh, brother. No, no, dad's good.
SPEAKER_02:Dad's good.
SPEAKER_04:So then he's all like, Okay, you you have a million tickets, you can spend it on whatever you want. And he's like, Do you want these orange gummies? And then she's all like, she doesn't say the thing you think she'd say, which is uh those are probably old and disgusting. She's like, those are 20 years old minimum, so no thank you. No, it's not 20 years because the place was still well, no, it was closed. This one was closed too. Yeah, this is ever been to this one.
SPEAKER_02:Well, wait, no, this isn't the one that closed. They're not at the first one, they're at the one that they were at in the first movie. You're right. So it's only been closed for a year. A year, okay.
SPEAKER_04:Um, why did they close this one?
SPEAKER_02:Because of the other murders. So there were other murders. Five kids were murdered. I'm pretty sure there were murders in the first one, right?
unknown:I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Probably the kid, the ghost kids. I don't remember either. And was it even opened in the last one? No, it was closed the whole time. But he becomes the closed place. Right. So we don't even know how long it's been closed, I guess. It's none of this makes any sense.
SPEAKER_04:So he's all like, ah, yeah, yeah, 200,000 points, and she doesn't want the orange gummies. But we we do that choke two more times. It's kind of funny the couple other times that they they actually most of these kind of movies do not have a a wherewithal to like set something up and then bring it back the same sort of thing a couple times. This one I'm like, oh, good for them. It's not good, but at least they did it.
SPEAKER_02:But you're trying, you're doing your best. So it's we're not gonna kick you out of school.
SPEAKER_04:She takes the the Faz Talker, which is a spec, you know, it's a speaking spell, but it lets you talk to the the robots. That's like, okay, that's cool.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, it's fine. It's fine.
SPEAKER_04:Uh Freddy's is murder. I don't know what those okay. Uh okay, so then these the ghost chaser kids go to Freddy's, go to the origin, not to this one, but the original one.
SPEAKER_02:Right, the original one, the original location. Yeah. It's like very confusing.
SPEAKER_04:Why we have to have multiples.
SPEAKER_02:Um I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:They get let in by the they they say, oh, Mike's gonna let us in. He's the security guard. And we're like, wait, Mike is our guy, but it turns out it's not Mike, it's Michael, this other weird guy.
SPEAKER_02:Why why?
SPEAKER_04:I like that. I like the aspect they both have the same name because it's it was it was kind of a weird setup. You're like, wait, Michael's a security guard, Mike's a security guard. Because it's stupid. It's so dumb. It's bad for your story and your script, but it's really kind of right, it's really kind of oddly subversive.
SPEAKER_02:I like that. What if we name everyone the same name? Now that's an idea. So dumb. I was pretty funny.
SPEAKER_04:So disappointing. So he lets them in. We talk about the marionette, it's one of a kind. Uh sure. Sure.
SPEAKER_02:None of the other locations ever had one. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_04:There's like the boat ride, there's like these little figures of the marionette kind of guys that are in the boat ride. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I love those. Yeah, no, this so that's my only the only part of this movie I think I like. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I I I I mean, if they had like a little three-inch figure of that guy, I'd probably buy that and put that on my thing. It's it's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_02:I would love that. Yeah, yeah. No, that would be fun. There's um back in in Minnesota, Dan, at the state fair, there's a ride called Ye Old Mill. And I'm sure everyone has rides like these, but I'd have never been on them, where you go kind of like into small world where you're in a boat and you travel through a tunnel of something. But the Ye Old Mill is like just old, it's an old, you know, mill. And it's just uh it's very creepy. And there was always growing up, there was always like an urban legend of of kids getting pulled into the water and murdered there. Cool. And so we were that was an every year ride, you know, and it's like, oh, is it gonna happen? And it never happens, it's a very boring ride. Um, but I'm uh I've always been obsessed with it. I love it.
SPEAKER_04:I wonder if they dress it up for Halloween now. That'd be cool.
SPEAKER_02:That would be cool, and they should do that, but it's generally very cold around Halloween time. So I don't know if people would go on a mini boat ride or not. You'd probably die if you fell in. That'd be cool. See, there you go.
SPEAKER_04:That's more incentive to do it. Um, there's Freddie, there's a Freddie, there's a Bonnie, there's a Chica, but there's no Foxy. I don't know what that means. The girl hears the secret music, she follows it. Uh long-haired guy's in the boat ride. He, of course, falls in the water.
SPEAKER_02:Uh but he doesn't get out of the water, Dim. No, he doesn't. That's why it's that's confusing to me. If I fell into water from a place that closed down 20 years ago, and it was just dirty, I'm out of the water immediately. I just keep I keep moving through the water. Just keep trashing through it. Maybe drink a little, you know, take a break.
SPEAKER_04:Uh the blonde follows the music, finds the music box, I guess turns it off. She was the only one that could hear the music for some reason. It was cool. She had the headphones. So I don't know what I don't know what device she's using.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Uh the the Marionette comes out, kills her, and takes her over. Uh the camera guy gets dismembered, I think, must be by Foxy, right? Because Foxy wasn't there.
SPEAKER_02:It must be because the tentacle arms grab him around the neck, and then he body parts fall.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, because Foxy is just the head, and then it is sort of like a snake.
SPEAKER_02:For some reason. Snake. Yeah, I don't know why. I don't know. I don't know why.
SPEAKER_04:I'm sure it has to do with and then the guy in the boat ride, he sees some commotion, and then he looks, and there's all these little marionette guys under the water. There's like a 20 of them, and then they kill him. That was probably the best.
SPEAKER_02:Piranhas. They tear him apart like piranhas. It's a 10 out of 10. Uh, I loved it. Probably the best part of the best part of it. More of that. Probably the best part of it. More of that, please.
SPEAKER_04:You know, just keep keep on making up these characters and killing them off. That's what we want.
SPEAKER_02:100%. That's what you do in horror movies. You gotta get the canon fodder so that the final people are more, you know, in danger. These people aren't in danger.
unknown:No.
SPEAKER_04:Uh, and then Lisa is the Marionette, and then she says, Welcome back, Charlotte. So Charlotte's back.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Michael says it, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Uh Abby's working on a robot, she's missing the gang of robots. Uh Vanessa is in spin class, she hallucinates her dad. And then is she a security guard or a policeman or something? She must have been a policeman. She was a policeman. She came up to the she was in a police car when she came up to the thing for the first time. So she pulls a gun on somebody, points a gun at one of the other spin class people. Just the guy.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, the guy that's interested in her sexually. Yeah. It's alright.
SPEAKER_04:Uh and she runs away. Uh at home, she goes, she goes to a she pull opens a trunk, pulls out a bag of marbles, a book, a mirror, and a little airplane, then sets them out, then lays down, and then enters a literal fantasy world with her dad.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And tries to convince her dad um to leave her alone.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, she's like trying to confront him in the dream world or something. Yeah, well, she does. She goes to the dream world that confronts him. I mean, you know, I mean, I know I know it happened. I'm just I'm a little fuzzy on the details of what's happening right now.
SPEAKER_04:Those those are the details. She goes to Freddie's nightmare world and then tries to say, Oh, leave me alone. And dad's like, uh, what? You're in my nightmare world. Yeah, I'm not doing that. And I think this is like the only scene we have with Matthew Lillard where we have Matthew Lillard for like 25 seconds or something.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, unfortunately. I love this guy.
SPEAKER_04:Get him more work, darn it.
SPEAKER_02:What about stupid Critt and Tarantino saying that Matthew Lillard sucks? Well, I mean, here's the good news. I like, I feel bad. That sucks. He was like, he came out and said he was very hurt by it, which bums me out. Oh. Um, but the good news is Tarantino, as we know on this podcast, is the most overrated director of all time. No. And I think he sucks hard. Nope. Uh so it probably shouldn't bother you when a talentless hack like Quentin Tarantino says that about you. No. Christopher Nolan. I but Nolan seems like a good dude. Tarantino is a creepy fucking weirdo. Uh so that makes him lower in my book. But but Tarantino did make a couple good movies. Name one. Uh Kill Bill's not bad. Oh, I don't like Kill Bill. I don't think it's a bad movie. I just, it's not for me. Yeah. I don't enjoy it. There's like some enjoyable parts of Kill Bill.
SPEAKER_04:There's there's there's like if you edit um what's the one?
SPEAKER_02:The the movie, you know, it could be pretty good. That's not that's not how that works.
SPEAKER_04:There's like about 20 minutes of the once upon a time in LA one that that are real really, you know. There's some But there's a three hour runtime, damn. 20 minutes is not a big number. There's a w there's a wicked twenty minute movie in that.
SPEAKER_02:That's called a short. That's called a short film.
SPEAKER_04:When you watch the partners make those. When you watch the part with uh with Brad Brad Pitt kicking the shit out of the Mansa family, that's that's some of that that little scene right there is it is brilliant.
SPEAKER_02:Sure, but it's surrounded by two and hours forty more minutes.
SPEAKER_04:So And you get to see what's Margaret Qually's feet.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you get to see everyone's feet, because he's a creep. Because he's a sick, sick man. Yeah, I'm not a fan of him, but that was uh that was pretty bush-ly. Clooney, in his speech at uh one of the award ceremonies, came and def came and defended them, which was which was cool.
SPEAKER_04:And also said, you know, someday I'd like to make a movie with him, to which Matthew Lillard's like, no, hold on. To which Matthew Leonard said, we have made a movie.
SPEAKER_02:Oh shit. Have they made a movie together?
SPEAKER_04:They read a movie together. Is that true? Absolutely true. I mean, I think it's true. At least I read it, and it sounded very true with the the person writing that.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, that's you come to their defense, but you just make it worse. I don't think that makes it worse, but at least you know he he was so bad he was forgettable. Now, that's twice as bad. I mean, that's funny.
SPEAKER_04:Matthew Lillard's like the the only shining part of one of the worst movies ever made, Wing Commander.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, first of all, you're talking nonsense because that movie is pure genius, but you're absolutely right. He is the best part of that movie. Um, in fact, he's the best part of all of the movies that him and Freddie did together, and I love Freddie.
SPEAKER_04:Matthew Lillard has a tendency to be the best person in a lot of the movies that he's in.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And yet, your your you know, Tarantino friend was like, right, he sucks. Imagine this. Imagine a world where Scream didn't have Matthew Lillard in it. That movie is not nearly as beloved as it is today. He that is an all-time great performance.
SPEAKER_04:Wait a second. That's him without a doubt. Him and Skeet are in that movie together, right?
SPEAKER_02:Correct, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And they're cute. They're in this movie together.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Oh, it's this sweet. I mean, it'd be fun if they had, you know, a scene together or something.
SPEAKER_04:You'd think you'd that's cute. You'd think you'd put him in a scene together, the two stars a screen. Yeah, but nah, we won't.
SPEAKER_02:We won't do that.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, just think of all the actors you can crap on, and you pick him who's like, who's not even, it's not even like he gets like A-level actor money or something.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, for sure not. He's just getting by, doing his thing, living his life. One of the sweetest guys in Hollywood, as far as I can tell. Like everyone says he's just like the nicest guy. He has I just don't understand it.
SPEAKER_04:He has a whole business making like high-end Dungeons and Dragons stuff.
SPEAKER_02:Correct. It's super cool. Well, do you remember the um the oh hey, here, I'm wearing a Scooby shirt right now. But um, they did the thing where they like wrote stories where you could put yourself in it and like t-shirts and stuff. That was through the same company. Yeah, it's lovely. They they do lovely stuff, they're very cool. Um, yeah, shame on you, Tarantino, you piece of shit.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, crap on top. Crap on Gerletto.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, first of all, amen. But we're definitely gonna have to see Toron Aries at some point.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, that I was gonna do that one a couple weeks ago. I was like, oh, yeah. It's gonna happen. I just have to get it.
SPEAKER_02:It is. It's yeah, we can. I was gonna- I'm just really not excited to see it.
SPEAKER_04:I was gonna do it like last week, I think. I think that was my pick at my last pick, but it's not my pick this week either.
SPEAKER_02:It's on the list, don't worry.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah, I forgot about it, but yeah, that one. I mean, that's the problem. We're never gonna finish this stupid show because they keep making so they I think they're making more bad movies now. I really do.
SPEAKER_02:Well, they are. I mean, but it's percentage-wise, it's been skewed, right? You know what I mean? Because we're making so many movies that just by sheer numbers, a larger number of them have to be terrible. You know what I mean? Oh, you really think that. I don't think the law of averages. You think they're making more movies? Well, as opposed to the 80s, yeah, of course. Way more movies, not blockbuster, we're not making good movies, we're just making more shit.
SPEAKER_04:See, I I don't I don't think that's true. I what I think is because I think back then they made in the 80s and the 90s, they made all these directed to to video movies. So they made so many, many terrible movies, Canon and all those places, and there's like all these other lower levels. And I just think that the studios and the money, you know, it's like like we were talking about there's this new Chris Pratt movie Mercy, which we're gonna do the second it comes out, and you're like Chris Pratt, yeah, who's was at one point the biggest movie star in the world, I think. Jurassic Park World, Jurassic World. Jurassic World, I don't think is he still in them, or is he he done with those?
SPEAKER_02:No, no, they booted him out of those, but he's still Mario.
SPEAKER_04:He's still Mario. Yeah, he did that electric state, which was such such a steaming pile, and cost so much money. And and then he's doing these like sort of war movies that he did like what is it, Tomorrow War? Is that what it was called?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, tomorrow war, yeah. Unwatched a good book.
SPEAKER_04:Unwatchable started. No.
SPEAKER_02:Please.
SPEAKER_04:Because we're they're like Chris Pratt has to be in these, they're not even bad Netflix movies. They're worse than bad Netflix movies, like The Gray Man and those, you know. Still never saw that. Oh, I think I watched the whole thing. Yeah. That sounds about right. It was eh. Okay, I don't know what we're talking about.
SPEAKER_02:Where are we at? Okay. No idea. But real quick, um, yeah, they were definitely both in The Descendants together.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, that's what it was.
SPEAKER_02:George Cooney and Matthew Leward, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Which I think somebody won. Is that the one they won? That somebody won like an Academy Award for that. It's an Academy Award winning movie.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe, yeah, maybe I didn't. I don't know. I'm not that deep in it. It was highly acclaimed, receiving five Oscar nominations and winning best adapted screenplay.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, for for Matt Faxon and um Jim Rash or the Groundlings.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, yes. Yes, correct. Yep. Where are they now? Anyhow.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, so she goes in the dream world and loses. Okay, you lose in the dream world. That sucks. Great. You'll always be mine or something like that. You'll always be mine. That's exactly what he says at the end. Yeah. She even shoots him. Like, you can't shoot somebody. Come on, bringing a gun to the dream world. Well, come on, it's not a dumb. Doesn't make any sense. That's bad planning. Um, the Faz Talker's talking to Abby, she's like, help us. Okay. Uh, she packs back to back, bails, bails, goes. They do like a kind of road closed thing on her on her trip, which you're like, well, no one else had any trouble with the road, but okay. I mean, she didn't really have trouble with the road either. There's like a sign that, you know, it's like, oh it doesn't stop anybody. They're probably just shooting like the the trip over there, and somebody saw that. Oh, look at that. There's a road close. Oh, let's get a shot at that. Get a shot of that. Doesn't make any sense. Um, she gets there. Here comes Chica wearing like a different outfit, I guess.
SPEAKER_02:It says Yeah, it was different. It said like let's party or something. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:Chica's weird. Chica's like, it's like almost like a adult female sexualized baby.
SPEAKER_02:But a chicken. Or a duck? Chicken. Chica, it's gotta be a chicken. Like, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_03:It's so weird.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know, but you just say that reminds me of Howard the Duck, and I miss that. They call him Howard the Duck.
SPEAKER_04:I gotta watch that song again. I love that song. I play that. Shana wants to kill my kills, kill me. She don't want to kill yourself. She wants to kill me.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, which is better. I mean, that's the right option, you know?
SPEAKER_00:Kill someone else, don't kill yourself.
SPEAKER_04:Ah, Chica says, What matters is we're together again. Okay. Uh Vanessa goes to Mike's, the Faz Talker is talking. Uh you're pro Mike Mini Chica. I don't know what else happens. You remember what happens in that scene?
SPEAKER_02:Uh-uh. Nothing. They help her. Wait, which scene? With with Chica? They help her fix the robot for her class. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I guess maybe she gets home. Maybe she goes home and she's making the mini Chica. I think she goes and then comes back and doesn't get caught.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because it's the next morning.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, the next morning. So she has made a mini version of Chica as a robot. You're like, wow, okay, they helped her.
SPEAKER_02:Pretty good. Pretty good.
SPEAKER_04:Uh I don't know. Uh, she goes to the science fair. Vanessa goes back to the original one.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because she saw the drawings or something. Yeah. And she knows she has to go back.
SPEAKER_04:Because, yeah, there's some drawing. Maybe, maybe, what's her name? Maybe Abby did drawings with the original one, so she knows something's going on with the original one. She goes there.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, maybe.
SPEAKER_04:Um, and she calls out to Charlotte, and then we we learn that Charlotte needs to get somebody to turn off the perimeter lock because the robots can't leave the area. But since they're friends, the evil marionette Charlotte is not gonna just kill or do stuff to Vanessa. Right.
SPEAKER_00:What? It's thin, very thin.
SPEAKER_04:At the science fair, uh, what's her name? Uh Abby shows up with the little chica robot, and Wade Knight's just incensed. Incensed. What are you doing here? There's no room for you, and then the little nerdy guy little nerdy buddy's like, hey, he's only taken up half a table.
SPEAKER_02:That was cool. It was funny. And then and then he loses his mind. And what does he do, Tony? He is he's he says, Oh, let me help you with your robot over here. And he takes the robot, he throws it on the ground and smashes it. This is insane behavior. You can't, you can't you can't do that. I mean, at least do they have the sense to kill him? I can't even remember if they kill him or they just hurt him. Did they kill him? They must have killed him. Oh, they killed him. They crush his head. Oh, I want to look, I want to see what's going on in your head, and then squishes the head. That's right. Yeah, at least they kill him. Yeah, they kill him.
SPEAKER_04:Um, so then she bikes back. She gets, you know, she that's that's that's traumatic. She leaves, she bikes back to the original one, drops her bike on the ground, goes inside, and Chica's there, and she's, you know, gives her comfort, and it's like, okay, now all you gotta do is type this 700 code thing into the thing, and that'll 700 code. That'll open the thing. And how are they getting that? They were getting that from somebody.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Charlotte has the blonde friend, uh, his not girlfriend. What's her name? The main girl? Vanessa in like a chokehold, and it's like, I'll kill her. I'm gonna kill her if you don't tell me. You know, that sort of thing. Yeah. So Vanessa has to So she tells her the code.
SPEAKER_04:Why didn't why didn't you just put Vanessa in front of the computer and have her do it?
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. Dramatic tension.
SPEAKER_04:Um, so the perimeter lock is loosed, so they're, you know, the four robots, the four robots from the original place are free to go and start killing parents.
SPEAKER_02:Do whatever they want to do. What's happening?
SPEAKER_04:Kill parents. They're gonna go kill parents.
SPEAKER_02:This is this doesn't make any sense, Dan. So here's what here's the problem, right? We find out that the Marionette is remote controlling that. Yes. This can happen at any distance. Yes. There's no Yes.
SPEAKER_04:Why don't you take down the perimeter locker at any distance?
SPEAKER_02:That doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER_01:What are you doing?
SPEAKER_02:Yep. That doesn't that does that's not how frequencies work, right? I mean, that's that's wild. We we have cell phones that work everywhere. Barely in 2002. My cell phone never worked in 2002. You kidding me? Coverage was terrible.
SPEAKER_04:So Abby and Chica Robot take a taxi somewhere. They start in the morning, and I think it takes them to get someplace till night.
SPEAKER_02:Which doesn't really make any sense because she biked here. I don't like where are they going? How are they paid for a taxi? Oh, that's a great question, too. Well, they left her 20 for pizza that night, so maybe it's just a$20 cab ride. That's true. See?
SPEAKER_04:Uh Mike decides to go to Skeet Ulrich, who is Charlotte's dad, I guess? How did he I don't know how he knew that?
SPEAKER_02:Charlotte's dad. When so when FazFest started coming up, because people are gonna celebrate Faz Fest, he started putting up flyers that were like, Freddie is murder, call me. How does he know that?
SPEAKER_04:Wait, oh, because it killed his daughter. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. He knows he knows the truth that she didn't accidentally get stabbed by a machine by herself, you know?
SPEAKER_04:And so he's like, Okay, I I I made this special music box. I'm giving it to you.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah. Great.
SPEAKER_04:Uh now Mike goes to the original, Freddy's with the music box, he finds the old robots. No, he goes to I think he goes to the no, he goes to the original, and then he finds these other fucked up robots.
SPEAKER_00:Correct. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Uh Mr. Bird meets Chica and yells at her, and then Chica kills oh, the science teacher, Mr. Bird, by smushing his head.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, squishing it. Yeah. It's fine. It was okay.
SPEAKER_04:You know?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean it's fine. I mean, he's for a kid's movie, it's fine.
SPEAKER_04:He leaves the raging science fair, because it is night again now, right? Yeah. The taxi was the morning, now it's nighttime. Wait, this is the same day. Was it night? Didn't they take the taxi in the morning?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it was definitely daytime. Like we saw the sun's out for sure. So wait a second. So she goes back to the science fair again? Yeah, she bikes to so she leaves the science fair after her thing's broken, bikes to Freddy's, taxis back from Freddie's so that she can show off her new science project, which is the robot animatronic robot. Oh, that's right. So Wayne Knight's like, you put up a human in a suit, you've you've put us all in danger of losing the science fair. The regionals, yes, something crazy.
SPEAKER_04:If they win this science fair, then they get to move to regional science, which makes a lot of sense.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know, man. I don't know how science works.
SPEAKER_04:All right. And then, yeah, so somehow a day has passed, but the science fair continues. It's like, I don't know. I wouldn't worry about time. Time feels unnecessary. Then Mike finds Vanessa tied up in a locker, and then she's like, You have to trust me. They go down the tunnel. Um, and then she explains about the music box. Mike falls in the water.
SPEAKER_02:Well, yeah, they go down the same tunnel with the river, and he, of course, also falls in the water, which is insane. I don't why is everyone just falling in the water? That's so weird. But then where is all the fun fun bobbleheads? Why don't they attack him? Instead, it's like one thing that comes after him, and he just crawls out of the water. Very anticlimactic. Wait, doesn't she like tear its head off too?
SPEAKER_04:The thing with the spinning on the head?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. He just one thing. He just defeated. The other guy got attacked by 40 dolls and they ate him like piranhas. That's so cool. This is just one thing. I don't know. Seems disappointing.
SPEAKER_04:Um so Charlotte is in there kind of creeping around. There's a couple little creepy shots, and Charlotte blames all the parents, and then she's all like, Vanessa, I should have told you.
SPEAKER_02:She's not wrong.
SPEAKER_04:So then they put Mike on the computer. What does Mike have to do on the computer? They put him on the computer to turn off the robots.
SPEAKER_02:He's trying to turn off the frequency. I don't totally understand it, but that's his goal is to turn off the frequency. Yeah. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, jeez. Uh Freddie. Chica's at the science fair again? And Abby wins the science fair? Yeah, Abby wins the side.
SPEAKER_02:Wait, did Abby win the science fair?
SPEAKER_04:Abby wins the science fair. I guess I don't know. I guess I guess she killed the guy, killed the teacher, and then goes back and wins. Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Love that.
SPEAKER_00:Great stuff.
SPEAKER_04:So they get in the car, and then this is when they get attacked by the foxy snake robot.
SPEAKER_00:Um, very confusing.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, it's just Vanessa, because Mike has stayed behind, and then what he does is when the robot's trying to attack him, he picks up a mask and holds it up, and then they do recognition, recognition, and they go, oh, friendly.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I wonder if that's from the games. Because that's very silly.
SPEAKER_04:It seems like the games.
SPEAKER_02:I hope it's from the game. Otherwise, it's a really bad idea.
SPEAKER_04:Uh Vanessa crashes into nothing. The Freddy franchise. So she's going there.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:I wrote Bonnie. Oh, Bonnie, the Bonnie robot, which is like the blue something. It's a blue blue creature. Okay. Goes and tries to kill a mother.
SPEAKER_02:Uh Mike. Yeah, so she drives she drives the fox into throws it into the blue one. Oh, is that what she does?
SPEAKER_04:Yes, yes, yes, that's exactly what happens. And the child saves moms from yeah, the child. No, the child saved mom from the bomb. I don't know. Mike still tried to do the thing, the mask stops working, but then Mike just figures out computer magic, deactivates everything except one, which is in his house, which is the marionette.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, which doesn't make any sense, but that's fine. It's all good.
SPEAKER_04:Back at home, Chica cracks open, out comes the marionette, and eats Abby.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Theoretically, but not really, because Abby's fine later.
SPEAKER_04:Uh Mike has his friend go find Vanessa. He goes home, there's Abby, she's all marionetted, and then Mike music boxes Abby, and that's when we do the orange gummy candy callback joke.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. So the music box fixes Abby, right? Well, so yeah. So what the music box does is it puts the ghost to sleep. Yeah. Magically. Now the problem is that uh Vanessa. Vanessa's there. Vanessa's the one that planted the original music box. Yes. And once again, she left it running for 20 years.
SPEAKER_04:Yes. Well, she probably had to go back every few hours to crank it. Crank it. That's her whole life. Gotta go. Gotta go. Vanessa, can you can you f your police officer?
SPEAKER_02:Gotta go. Gotta go, Sarge. Sorry, Sarge. I'll be back in 20. Gotta go wind it up. Um, but the problem is Mike runs it, closes it, and then throws it aside. So it works for 30 seconds, and then the ghost is fine, which is why the ending of the movie happens. But if you're Vanessa, you'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, keep playing it. You gotta play it forever. It can never stop play. But they just stop playing it. That's not how it works. That's not the rules that you set up, so stupid.
SPEAKER_04:Oh idiots. So now Michael shows up. Not Mike, Michael, right? Vanessa's brother, and then he's gonna do something.
SPEAKER_02:She never mentions that she has a brother also named Mike. I mean, it's a little weird.
SPEAKER_01:Sorry.
SPEAKER_04:And then he's like, I'm going to continue the Afton, because that's her last name, Afton Legacy. By by this time tomorrow, half of the town will be dead by these robots that move oh so slowly.
SPEAKER_00:So slow. So so so so slow.
SPEAKER_04:Uh the second string of robots attacks, and then Mike's friend shows up and KOs Michael. KO.
SPEAKER_02:And then the all those dolls start dying. The ghost the ghost dolls from the first one would come back and save the day.
SPEAKER_04:Now who somebody set up set up for them to come back? Was it Mike or was it Vanessa?
SPEAKER_02:No, it was yeah, Mike. Sorry. Yeah, it was Mike went to the second location and was like, I don't know if you're here anymore, but she needs your help. And then they they show up and defeat the bad guys. And then they just show up and then tear the other ones apart. And then now they're ghosts, and they're like, Well, now we're going to heaven. But we only have a budget to show one ghost kid.
SPEAKER_04:One ghost. Yeah. We're moving on. And and Abby is like not happy about it. She's all like, these are my only friends. Even though like that little nerd kid told us your friend, you know. And he's cool. And then uh and then the best part of the movie, Mike is there and he's all like. Vanessa's like, ah, we did it. We we we came out on top. And Mike's like, get the fuck away from me. Yeah. You have a psycho brother that I have never heard of. There's like, there's another thing, just like ever, you know, so like in the third movie, they're gonna have like they're gonna have like younger twin, you know, twin boy and girl.
SPEAKER_02:It's gotta be another family member somewhere, for sure.
SPEAKER_04:It's just like, he's like, you know, it's not like oh, we did it.
SPEAKER_02:He's like, get the fuck away from me. Don't ever talk to me again. I have a theory about this, Dan. Okay. Here's my theory. They went on a date. So the first movie, she has a murderous father, and he's like, you know what? You're hot. It's cool. Now, now in this movie, they go on a date, they don't kiss. Oh, and he's like, if I'm not even gonna get any, it's not worth it. And now he's like, get away from me. You won't kiss me. Your family keeps trying to kill me. I'm done with you. So it's all about sex. It is all about sex. That's my theory. That's my theory.
SPEAKER_04:And then in the final scene before the epilogue, Vanessa gets ticketed by the marionette, and now she's the marionette.
SPEAKER_00:Great stuff. Because Mike really good stuff.
SPEAKER_02:If he'd left the music box open, this wouldn't have been. But she knew. This is her fault entirely. Mike's new to the music box game. All right. He's never done a music box. She did a music box for 20 years. How did she even know back 20 years ago that a music box would do something like that? I mean, now that's a great question, Dan. I don't have the answer to that. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_04:And then we have a we have a prologue in the after-the-credit scene, and these guys go to the original one, and they're like, we gotta we gotta steal stuff for our haunted house, and they find the old Matthew Lillard robot.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. So there it is. Great stuff.
SPEAKER_04:This 10 out of 10.
SPEAKER_02:You know, this is a terrible movie.
SPEAKER_04:We talked about the movie, both of us were here. I still don't know what happened in this movie.
SPEAKER_02:Not not much. I'm telling you, the 40 minutes in is when the plot starts to happen. When the ghost, when she starts talking in the the Faz Talker, 40 minutes into the movie. That's not good.
SPEAKER_04:Who got killed? The three ghost people, the science teacher.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I think that's it. And then Charlotte in the beginning, I guess. Does that count? No, that doesn't count. Then it then that's it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:The bad guys kill three people that walk into their trap, and then they only kill one person in the real world.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. That's terrible. That's pretty dope. That is terrible. That's bad, especially for a sequel, where the rules of a sequel are bigger, bloodier, uh, more like that's that's what you gotta do. You step it up.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You don't do the opposite. Uh they do not I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:They played the opposite game, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_02:Anything else you want to say about this movie? No, I'm done with this. Let's I can't wait for the third one. Very excited.
SPEAKER_04:Uh now we talk about something we liked. I watched the first episode of three episodes of The Seven Dials, a new Agatha Christie uh mystery on Netflix uh with Helena Bonham Carter and like this new girl who I don't know. She's great. Uh super great. Looks good. Okay. Written well. Sometimes Agatha Christie can be a little opaque and confusing. This one, very not opaque, not confusing. Very straightforward, very interesting. Okay. Great. I'm in. What do you got, Tony? I didn't even know this was a thing. Oh, did I talk about did I talk about the new uh the new trailer for the new Gore Verbinski movie? Did I talk about that last week? I think you did.
SPEAKER_02:I think you mentioned it because I I remember looking it up. Yeah, that was good. Okay, Tony, what do you got for us? You're not gonna like my answer, Dan. Love Island All-Stars is back, baby. Um, here's the thing though, Dan. So Love Island All-Stars, just if people don't know. Have they used up all the real All-Stars? That is correct. Yeah, and this is only season three of All-Stars. That's how few All-Stars there are. First of all, there's All-Stars that were here last season, which is not a good start.
SPEAKER_04:Wait, wait, wait, wait, they bring back old All-Stars. They don't even have enough All-Stars to have it all-stars.
SPEAKER_02:There are people that were in the villa in previous seasons for less than three days. Like it was someone came in, got booted out because nobody liked them, and they're they're bringing it back for all-stars, babe. It is embarrassing, and I am here for it. I'm loving it. It's terrible. Having a great time. So, everybody, Peacock, Love Island All-Stars. Let's get it. Well, you know We're obsessed with this franchise. I know, you're not well. It's the best.
SPEAKER_04:In honor of us doing sequels, I thought we should probably do a sequel. I love it. It's a sequel to a movie that I hated when it came out.
SPEAKER_02:Did we watch? Did we do it for the show? No. Interesting. Because it's a movie most people love. That's even more reason to do. We gotta get people to hate us again.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, they hate us. Um I know they do. Uh this movie I think came out last year. Uh, I don't know if Ridley Scott was the director or not, but it's a movie called Gladiator 2.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah. I have not. We were supposed to watch this, not we. Me and the wife were supposed to watch this. And we every time we were gone, we're like, or we could just watch something else. We could watch Love Island reruns. So not everyone chooses. Yeah. So, all right, let's do this. Gladiator 2. How long is this thing? Were you serious?
SPEAKER_04:I forgot to look how long it was.
SPEAKER_02:Yep, two hours, 26 minutes. All right, thanks, Dan. What have I done? Check it. Good stuff.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, I'm sure some of it's just gonna be like fight it a pit. You know, you're just gonna have the right fight in the pit.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_02:Oh. All right. I'm sorry. Rotten tomatoes. How are we doing? Wow, people liked it, Dan. I think they hated it. 81% audience score. Uh, that means it's 20%. You can't just make up rules.
SPEAKER_04:I'm excited. I'm excited to see it. Rotten tomatoes, you can make up rules because those numbers. Well, you're right about that.
SPEAKER_02:You're right about that. Joseph Quinn's in it. I don't remember seeing that.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, Joseph Quinn. You know, everybody's favorite.
SPEAKER_02:I just see him in something that's not Eddie, because uh uh I'm in the minority, but I do not like Eddie from Stranger Things. What's happening?
SPEAKER_03:Eddie, Eddie was the greatest.
SPEAKER_02:Eh, Eddie was dull. Eddie was a chicken.
SPEAKER_03:Eddie wasn't the the Max's brother, who was the greatest.
SPEAKER_02:Billy was great. I mean, Billy's not a good person, but God, he's so talented. That guy, we need to get him more work. What's going on, Hollywood? Gordon Decker. Get Gordon Decker some more work. Not quite.
SPEAKER_04:That's not his name. Daker Montgomery. Kind of Gordon Decker.
SPEAKER_02:Gordon Decker. That kind of reminds me of like Gordon Gecko. I love it. Anyhow, I've been watching it.
SPEAKER_04:Regardless. Oh, here. Let's do a controversial question for Tony.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, oh, okay. Bring it on.
SPEAKER_04:Uh, they just they just put some more James Bond movies up on uh Netflix. So I was I was re-watching another day to die or whatever that one is. Die another day. Man, there's some good car chases in there, some good stuff. Sure. Um, what's his name? I'm covered in poison, and I'm going to poison you soon. Uh what's his name? Mr. Robot. So good. Um who should be the next James Bond? Oh, geez. You know, they say Jake Jacob Belordi, but he's like six foot four. So, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So do you know who I I'm gonna not answer your question now that you've brought up Jacob Bellordi, because there are there's things online that we would like him to play Harry Dresden from the Dresden Files, and I am on board with that. Okay. Um, I don't care about him being the next Bond, I don't think, but uh Dresden. Yeah, yeah. Sorcerer, great stuff. Um, I mean, I wish listen, I know everyone likes Daniel Craig. I you don't like Daniel Craig? I I like Daniel Craig in general. That wasn't that's not like a dig on Daniel Craig. Daniel Craig as Bond is like fine for me. He's not my favorite, he's not my least favorite, he's fine. Um their movies are good, obviously, because they're real movies, as opposed to you know, the Pierce Bronson era, which is my favorite era, but those are just like silly popcorn movies. Um, anyhow, if they had done it like they were going to do 10 years ago, it would have been Henry Cavill, because I think he would have been great. But it's too late. He is, I think, now too old. Henry's Henry's reached too old, just like Idris Alba's reached too old. I I I love them both. I think both of them would have been great choices.
SPEAKER_00:Too late.
SPEAKER_02:And I don't know here, and now this is gonna get more controversial, just not outs just outside of Bond in general. I don't think we have a lot of movie stars left.
SPEAKER_04:We don't.
SPEAKER_02:I just don't think that's a thing anymore. I was watching F1, I think I told you I watched F1, and you watch the movie and you watch Brad Pitt, and you're just like, yeah, he's a fucking movie star. Movie star? That's you, there's a presence that these people have, and I just don't see it anymore. And I feel like James Bond needs to have a presence. If you have someone that doesn't have that quality where you're just drawn in, it's gonna be tough. And I just don't see it in the younger crowd. I don't know. Maybe I'm just getting old. Maybe that's what everybody says about the generation after him. I don't know, but I'm not seeing it.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I mean, I will say this. It's like that whatchamacallit, uh, that James Bond movie, The Die Another Day or whatever it is, has what's her name, uh plays Paloma. Uh, what's her name? Uh trying to, I'm I'm gonna She plays the ballerina in the in the Keanu Reeves movie stuff.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, oh, uh yeah. Whatever her name is. She has a name. No time to die. What's her name? Her name is Anna de Armas.
SPEAKER_04:Anna de Armas. What a star-making role that was. I mean, she just has I don't know if she's 15 minutes, you know, it's 15 minutes of the movie. You're just like, the movie doesn't get better. You know, there's other it's a good movie still, but it's like the best part of the movie is the 15 minutes she's in it.
SPEAKER_02:But then keep in mind that two years later she made Ghosted with Chris Evans, and we did that movie because it's so bad, and she is so bad in it. So, you know, it's tough. Ghosted, what was that? That's where uh what did it exactly? They went on like a date, and then he didn't call her, but then somehow they got entwined in like a spy mission together. You know, remember this? It was an Apple original. Uh well, anyhow.
SPEAKER_04:I have to look that up. I don't remember anything about it.
SPEAKER_02:It wasn't a good movie. That's she's also great in Knives Out, which came before that movie.
SPEAKER_04:Uh I tried to watch the last uh uh Tom Cruise uh Mission Impossible.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, you didn't like it? Got bored. Very bored. Well, it's very different because the Mission Impossible movies are generally high octane fun. They're great, like the Jay Fonda. They're made really well.
SPEAKER_04:You're like, I could just, you know, I'm not a great I don't love Tom Cruise, but I I I'm there for it because they you know, yeah, he's the mummy. He to me, he'll always be the mummy. That came so late in his career. That's who he is. That's his that's his defining role. Him as the mummy. That's so rude.
SPEAKER_02:I love it. Uh so dismissive of an entire career, and I love it. Um, yeah, it's it's it's dour and gloom, and it's not fun. Like their whole thing is for whatever, eight movies or whatever, they're super fun. Yeah. And then this one's not very fun, it's very serious, it's very dark, and yeah, I get it.
SPEAKER_04:It seemed like they were making a different kind of movie because the the one before that was was pretty. You know, the whole dumb computer being this thing. I'm like, it's stupid, but whatever. And then they really just leaned into the stupid computer thing where it's like, oh, it's a super computer, it's really smart. It's everything. I don't care.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I still enjoyed it, but I got it. Yeah. I got it. So that's just some bones I had to pick. Yeah, you gotta do it. You gotta sometimes you just gotta feel better, you know.
SPEAKER_04:And I watched the whatchamacallit movie too, the every battle times ten.
SPEAKER_02:One battle after another, every battle times two. Uh that's a good name. Uh yeah, should I watch that? It's on my list. Uh, snoozy. I found it snoozy.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, there's some things in it that are great. What's it what's his name? Benisha del Toro? You're like, oh, I want to see a movie about him. I I didn't care about I didn't care about the movie they made. I wanted to see a movie about this one interesting character that you're like, oh, I'm super interested.
SPEAKER_02:That's the I think that's everyone's front runner for the Oscars for Best Picture. But I'm like, I'm team F1 that got nominated for Best Picture. I want it, I'm Dark Horse it, baby. Let that win. Come on. Wow. I love that movie.
SPEAKER_04:I've sidebared too much. Uh, leave us a comment, give us a thumbs up or subscribe, and uh, we'll be back next week talking about some gladiators. Goodbye, everybody. Goodbye, everybody.