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Hate Watching War of the Worlds (2025): What's In Your Amazon Cart?
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Enter the bizarre world of "War of the Worlds 2025," where product placement and alien invasion collide in what might be the most gloriously terrible sci-fi film of recent years. Join us as we unpack this Amazon Prime spectacle that had us laughing harder than any intentional comedy could.
At the center of this disaster is Ice Cube as Will Radford, a government surveillance analyst who can hack into anything on Earth—except, apparently, the door keeping him trapped in his office during an alien invasion. While meteors rain down and tripods emerge from the ground, Will's primary concern remains spying on his pregnant daughter and gamer son, much to our bewilderment and amusement.
The film reaches peak absurdity when Will needs to upload a virus to defeat the data-eating aliens (yes, they eat data), but can only receive the necessary thumb drive through an Amazon Prime Air delivery—which requires placing an actual Amazon order first "because protocol." When a homeless man is convinced to help the mission in exchange for an Amazon gift card, we knew we'd reached cinematic rock bottom.
From Ice Cube's emotionless "oh" upon seeing his daughter's blood-soaked empty Tesla to the son's revelation as the mysterious hacker "The Disruptor," every scene delivers fresh waves of unintentional comedy. The climactic solution involving a "cannibal code" that makes the aliens consume themselves perfectly caps this monument to illogical storytelling.
Whether you're a connoisseur of terrible cinema or simply need a good laugh, "War of the Worlds 2025" belongs in the hallowed halls of so-bad-it's-good classics. Have you experienced a movie so delightfully terrible it became entertainment gold? Share your thoughts in the comments!
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Speaker 1You're a selfish son of a gun. You know that, Dan.
Speaker 2You just figured that out Wow Slow on the uptake.
Speaker 1Yeah, I learn very slowly. I don't know. My wife will tell you that you learn glacially.
Speaker 2Oh, glacially, I mean slowly. Oh, I see, I'll figure that out in a few years?
Speaker 1I don't know, not anymore, right, aren't they going real fast now? No they're going away. It's very different. Yeah, but fast. But they're melting very fast.
Speaker 2The melting of glaciers is very fast.
Speaker 1The movement of glaciers used to be slow. Okay, I see.
Speaker 2Now, there's probably no movement, probably nothing happening.
Speaker 1Well, they're just dripping, drip, drip, drop. Thanks, sir. I hate watching with Dan and Tony. I hate watching with Dan and.
Speaker 2Tony, it's like watching. Yeah, welcome to Hate Watching with Dan and Tony. I happen to be Dan.
Speaker 1And I just happen to occasionally sometimes be Tony, you know it's kind of funny, you know as I veer away from our typical format. We're already. This is a terrible start to the show, oh God.
Speaker 2I did a toy show because I sell vintage toys yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, how'd that go, by the way?
Speaker 2Went fine? Oh good, yeah it. How'd that go, by the way? Went fine, oh good, yeah, it went fine. But I was there and I was like this guy was asking about something and we talked for a second. He's like you know. He introduced himself. His name was Daniel Wachtenheim. He's a guy I used to know a long time. You know another toy guy, but I hadn't seen him in many years. His hair much grayer, my hair much weirder and he's like yeah, I wasn't sure if it was you, but then I heard your voice your muppet voice, your stupid muppet voice that nobody likes my stupid voice, um, so that you know that the point being I don't know what the point is the point is you should be famed.
Speaker 1Everyone should listen to this podcast because you have a unique, beautiful voice.
Speaker 2So each week on this show we talk about a movie. I picked the movie this week.
Speaker 1Is it a movie?
Speaker 2Usually I try and qualify everything, but I'm just going to do like I picked the movie. The movie I picked was War of the Worlds 20, 25, hour, 30 minutes. It's not a movie. War of the Worlds 2025, hour and 30 minutes Amazon Prime.
Speaker 1I'm going to make a statement. It's a 90-minute Amazon Prime ad I'm going to make a statement.
Speaker 2This is one of the best, worst movies we've ever done. It's right up there with Mac and Me and whatever Troll 2. This one, not Troll 2. I think this one's going to go into the, you know, into the anals of history, the anals of history.
Speaker 1The deep, deep anals of history no the anals of history, right into those anals of history.
Speaker 2This movie's bad? This isn't a movie.
War of the Worlds 2025: Amazon's Masterpiece
Speaker 1Stop calling it a movie. It's an insult to everybody who's ever seen this movie. Oh boy, this is funny. I laughed harder at this movie than I've laughed in a long time.
Speaker 2I didn't laugh a lot, but the couple of times I laughed Because we have to sit here and sit in judgment and I usually don't laugh a lot at something. That is just. I don't laugh at the badness of something typical.
Speaker 1And if it's normal badness, I feel like I don't laugh that much but like some of these choices are so intentional that I refuse to believe anyone made this movie earnestly and didn't think it was funny while they were making it they absolutely were making this movie earnestly.
Speaker 1They absolutely you can't make a movie that is funded by amazon and have a guy be like well, I can't do the thing until you order an amazon order so I can send you the amazon order. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. There's no way that that was made earnestly. They were like this will be funny. Watch this.
Speaker 2This is hilarious, you think so you thought it was a gag. Do you really think it was a gag?
Speaker 1I. I don't know who wrote this movie, but if it wasn't a gag I can't be friends with them. I hope this is the way I'm viewing it Right. So someone wrote a movie that was somewhat real and then Amazon was like, hey, we'll pay for it. And they were like I'm going to throw in so many Amazon things and I'm going to see how many I can get through before people are like hold on Pump the brakes guy, this is too much through. Before people are like hold on pump the brakes guy, this is too much. No, that's the way he's playing a game. He's playing a game with the audience and the studio and he's like how much can I make fun of these people before it's too much?
Speaker 2It is, see, because this movie is about like surveillance and how government surveillance is bad and how Amazon shouldn't be surveilling all of this us, although all amazon does is surveil all I don't know.
Speaker 1That is correct this.
Speaker 2This more seemed to me like the double fake out. You know where they're like. Oh see, what we'll do is we'll make this movie and then we'll say that all these things that we do are bad. Oh yeah, to to sort of make you go like well, they just said they're bad, it's just self-deprecating, yeah, I get it, it's fake self-deprecating. It's a fake self-deprecating movie.
Speaker 1We pretend that we're the bad guys and tell you oh, we're the bad guys, but yeah, we're the good guys, but we're really the bad guys.
Speaker 2You'll know we're the bad guys, but yeah, we're the good guys, but we're really the bad guys. You'll know we're the good guys because we could put a movie on our platform that says we're the bad guys.
Speaker 1That tells you we're bad, but we also saved the day, so we're also good, yeah, big time. That drone is incredible. By the way, If that's what they're going to deliver with the drones, we are safe everybody with the drones we are safe everybody, oh god hashtag spoilers we just spoiled the best part of the movie. That's the best part. I don't know.
Speaker 2That's the best part of the movie I got a lot of best parts of this there's one part that I I just was laughing, yeah, yeah yeah, I think my biggest.
Speaker 1Oh no, do you have one?
Speaker 2I'll talk about it.
Speaker 1I just want to share my love of this movie. I think my biggest laugh of the movie is towards the end His daughter's in the Tesla. And he cuts back and the Tesla is covered with blood and all Ice Cube does is go oh, that's it. He just says, oh, his daughter bled out and disappeared in the Tesla. And he just goes oh, there's no way that that was the take from that moment in the script. They just cut that from somewhere else because that's not a reaction. That's not real.
Speaker 2He has to be like the number one Halloween costume this year. I don't think it will be, but it should be. He has to be like the number one Halloween costume this year. I don't think it will be but it should be, it has to be, you know, dressing up as whoever the stupid. Is he the husband of his daughter or his boyfriend? What even is?
Speaker 1it. I think they're not married yet. I think they're like, I think they're just together, maybe engaged, you know something, but they're having a baby. So they're like I think they're just together, maybe engaged, you know something, but they're having a baby, so it's. I don't know, it's a little serious it's serious.
Speaker 1And here's I don't want to be rude, be rude, can we just talk a minute? But she's like this scientist who's like creating all this stuff and he's an amazon driver not that there's anything wrong with that, but those two people don't go together you mean, they don't have any place that they would meet?
Speaker 2for one you mean she, she's making a, a world-renowned computer virus that's gonna save the, that's gonna save humanity but, and what does your husband do?
Speaker 1uh, he delivers amazon packages sometimes but can't really get there, kind of slow, kind of weird, seemingly can't do his job whatsoever because he doesn't get anywhere.
Speaker 2But that's fine, great, this great how much did you want ice cube's character to die through about most of this movie?
Speaker 1I just wanted him to leave the room. I just really was like you're this head of security, but you're locked inside of a room in your own building. I just don't believe it. I just don't believe that for a second. He has control over every single thing on the planet, as far as I can tell, except for the one lock on his door.
Speaker 2Well, he fixed the lock on his door, but then he couldn't get out of the building fixes the lock of the door.
Speaker 1Did the sun?
Speaker 2fix the like I didn't. Yeah the sun does that now, did you see which is? Also holy shit did you see the big twist coming where his?
Speaker 1son is the disruptor thingy. No, I didn't see it come, because that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. Oh, I play video games, dad. I play video games. Actually, I'm a world-class hacker and you should have seen it coming because I play video games. What an asinine. Oh God, so dumb.
Speaker 2I mean in retrospect. It is the dumbest thing ever because this guy can the our, our protagonist, will radford, who's played by ice cube, can literally have a camera in your butthole anywhere you can have it anywhere. And it's like and you never saw your, your kid, doing all this hacking right like oh, I rerouted my ip address so you wouldn't find me.
Speaker 1That's all it took for this mega mastermind. He's like you know what, if I'm not at home, he'll never know. That don't make any sense, my bro pete's house oh, I didn't die.
Speaker 2I'm on a vpn, dad gotcha fucking idiot um, but the one thing about this movie that drives you crazy about his stupid character is he's like a data. He's a data analyst Basically, the number one data analyst Basically. He could tell the president what to do at any moment.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah. Somehow which is great, great news for the country.
Speaker 2The Martians or whatever the aliens attack? Yeah, we don't know. They're destroying everything, doing whatever they want. He's supposed to be coordinating things. He gets coordinating calls from the most powerful people in the world. He's trying to save the world.
Speaker 1And he's all like. I knew this was going to be your big thing.
The Surveillance Dad and His Family
Speaker 2Oh, good voicemail. I got a spy on my daughter and see what she's doing. Yeah. Yeah, and then he doesn't do it once, he does it like five times, several times.
Speaker 1Several times. This is Dan's worst nightmare. Dan is a save the universe kind of guy. If you're new to the show, this is a conversation we have frequently Is save Spock or save the universe? Star Trek. Dan has saved the universe, I'm save Spock, but in this movie.
Speaker 2I am team Dan.
Speaker 1I am 100% Like. What are you doing? Just save the planet? This is ridiculous.
Speaker 2It's egregious and that's the whole thing is like. You know, like do do a couple of times where he he has to cut the daughter off and then he's, then he starts feeling guilty and you know like play with it a little bit, just like every time, with some feelings other than just be like nah, fuck the world.
Speaker 1What's going on with you, babe? Hey, hey, talk to me. I'm sorry that you're mad at me, let's talk. What's happening? This is dumb.
Speaker 2Let me compose an email to my children throughout the course of the movie.
Speaker 1Oh, it's bad, it is bad.
Speaker 2I told your mother.
Speaker 1I'd take care of you, I'd protect you. Yeah sure Of course you would.
Speaker 2You wouldn't tell her the opposite.
Speaker 1It would be pretty rude for you to tell your wife on her deathbed like, ah, fuck those kids, I don't care about them.
Speaker 2They're on their own. Fuck those kids. Anything else you want to talk about before we actually start talking about the movie.
Speaker 1No, let's just get into it, because this is a good one.
Speaker 2He works for Homeland. Whatever that is, he's a Homeland.
Speaker 1Security analyst. He might be the only one, by the way. Is he the only?
Speaker 2one. You know, this is kind of a one-act play. Right, you've got him, he's got a daughter who is pregnant.
Speaker 1Well, you know, this is kind of a one-act play right. Oh yeah, you've got him.
Speaker 2He's got a daughter who is pregnant and who has a terrible, terrible boyfriend who's an Amazon delivery driver, and they make him out to be terrible. Yeah, yeah, well, he doesn't even show up. He's got a son who likes to play video games and then which is? Great, we've got eva longoria, who's a nasa scientist, who's basically the one person that sort of interacts with stuff on the ground he's like his best friend are they best friends?
Speaker 2I'm a little confused on the relationship there? I don't know why at west homeland security analyst, the only person he really talks to regularly on the phone is someone from nasa is nasa yeah I don't know.
Speaker 1I don't know why is there no one else in the building today? I don't understand any of it.
Speaker 2Usually you kind of have a command center where there's a lot going on sure no.
Speaker 1and if he was the head, great. And then if he had to like send everybody else out, but he like I'll stay behind and save the world, but no, he's just the only guy around, only guy doing it in charge of the world Right.
Speaker 2You know he's in charge of every part of the world.
Speaker 1But all he's doing is spying on his kids, abusing government property to spy on his children.
Speaker 2Yes, he would lose his job literally instantly if anyone looked into.
Speaker 1But luckily there's no one to spy on him while he's spying on other people, because he's the only person that does the spying. So it all works out. He has no boss, not even the president, really, because they don't seem to be able to tell him what to do. They give him suggestions like hey, maybe come to this Zoom meeting with the president of the United States, and he's like no, thank you, I'm busy All busy.
Speaker 2And then there's also this FBI woman who doesn't do much, also his best friend.
Speaker 1Yeah Well, she calls him a bunch and then she gets like blowed up or something.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, she got blowed up for real, didn't she I?
Speaker 1think so. I feel like she did got blowed up for real didn't she?
Speaker 2I think so. I feel like at a certain point she was gone and and never, never comes back. Um, okay, so we got sandra. We, oh so the daughter's faith, sandra's nasa evil, angoria, she's like hey. She calls him up, like hey, look all this weird weather's happening and all the satire satellites can't see anything and he goes, yeah.
Speaker 1No, no. What he says is I told you, I look at people, I don't look at the clouds or something stupid like that. What are you talking about? What does that mean? First of all, can we just talk about the fact that NASA said all of their satellites are down and nobody is worried, just her. Not one person is like well, that's strange, because yesterday we had a bunch of satellites and now we have no satellites, and I think that's weird. And on top of that, there are crazy electrical storms happening across the world and nobody is like hey, look at these crazy storms, everyone's just living their normal lives. I don't understand what's happening in this movie, dan Already in minute three. I'm confused.
Speaker 2Well, it's, you know, because the movie has to occur in, like you know, literally a minute, 25 minutes, minute 25, minute 24.
Speaker 1literally a minute, 25 minutes, minute 25, minute, 20, 24. This is basically real time, which you don't expect, because so many things happen that would take days to happen.
Speaker 2We get confused. We just skip 15 minutes at one point and we skip maybe 10 minutes at another point but other than that, pretty much minute for a minute of my favorite thing and it's so it's minute for minute my favorite thing, and so it is minute for minute and, like everything else, everything reacts instantaneously. Yeah, so at one point he has like this little counter which they cut to so fast and I do believe it is the death toll.
Speaker 2Oh, this is like Sure. You're like how it's like pinball baby. Who's collecting this data and inputting it into his system?
Speaker 1to know how many people they're one-plussing on their keyboard. They're pushing the up arrow Just like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're all dead.
Speaker 2Oh, so he's looking for. What's his name? The Disruptor. The Disruptor.
Speaker 1Disruptor. I think that's right.
Speaker 2Who is like a hacker who's trying to get into Goliath, which is some secret program which nobody even knows what it is. Yeah, his kid.
Speaker 1Dave His kid, dave Dave.
Speaker 2Refer that back to that, His kid.
Speaker 1Dave.
Speaker 2Dave, refer that back to that last thing I said Goliath, dave, goliath, dave Goliath.
Speaker 1Oh shit, david versus Goliath. I did not put that together at all, dan, that's fun.
Speaker 2Only afterwards did I go. Oh okay, that's with the stupidity.
Speaker 1Oh, that's good. Oh, this stupidity um, he's watching, oh wait, no, dad's watching fate some more.
Speaker 2And then he calls her and talks to her and she's he's all like you're out of something and she's like you hacked my fridge yeah, her smart fridge he is so creepily invasive on their lives yeah, yeah, so he's a helicopter parent, but he's able to do it from remote, like that's.
Speaker 1That's what technology has given us that this guy can spy on every second of his kids lives without them even knowing on it. He doesn't have to sneak into their room and read their journal, he could just hack into their phone and text as if he was them. It's weird, it's so, it's so disturbing and he's our hero. He's our hero, he's our hero Do we realize that he's supposed to be the good guy and he is taking his power in the government and using it to spy on his children.
Speaker 2It's messed up man and at one point he finds out something and he realizes he hasn't looked at his daughter's incoming Facebook stuff to him, which doesn't make you know a guy like this is going to be in their DMs, in their Facebooks.
Speaker 1It's going to be everywhere he's so busy in her Facebook that he doesn't realize that she's been sent a message.
Speaker 2You see, that's the difference he doesn't log into his own.
Speaker 1Facebook. He's just logging into other people's Facebook, totally different scenario.
Speaker 2Wouldn't he see the outgoing messages from his?
Speaker 1Facebook. You'd have to. It would be weird if you did.
Speaker 2Oh, look at her sending email messages to me. I guess I won't look at those, because they're to me. What?
Speaker 1I don't. Those are too personal. I better stay away from those.
Speaker 2So he checks it. And his kid, his kids, played the video games. So he uninstalls the video games and says to the kid this is my job, you're like wait?
Speaker 1what? No, it's not your job by the way. You should be doing your job and you are not. You should be looking for this big, bad disruptor guy who's saying he's going to end the planet, or whatever. You should probably look into it.
Speaker 1He ignores the call Also real quickly, Dan I just want to talk about. He uses TeamViewer to log into remote computers. In this movie, TeamViewer is the worst remote protocol you can use. It's what we use at work as well. It sucks. It's awful. I mean, it's what a lot of it people use. But there's so much better stuff out there now that you can use other than team viewer, it's wild. Team viewer is like old school remote pc control.
Speaker 2Some good shit out there now we should probably take a little break, since, okay, since we've talked a little bit about some stuff and talk about, yeah, the way they've shot this movie, the way they do pans on his screen, sort of yeah, yeah, exactly movement. You want movement zooms onto a screen. Did that like? Did that draw you in and and and make the drama?
Speaker 1I'm totally into it, you know, because I, if we had the full screen I wouldn't know what I'm supposed to be looking at. You know, because it's a computer screen, it's real big and there's so much stuff on. Thank God they zoom into a little corner, so all I can see is the words I'm supposed to see. Otherwise I'd be really confused.
Speaker 2A lot of cutting and pasting he does. We get to watch him cut and paste lines of text and he has this magic thing that he goes that just automatically generates passwords that can get into like top secret sites yeah, I would.
Speaker 1I'll take that. That's pretty cool, you know not sure how that works. It's fast too, like it's like. I think those things usually take a long time to compute, but this guy's done in eight seconds oh my, my God.
Speaker 2So he ignores a NASA call? Then he's, I guess oh, the son is like you know, yells at him you're living in my house, and he means you mean mom's house. I mean, were they divorced or something? How is that mom's house?
Speaker 1Even if they weren't divorced. What job did she do? He works. He's like this ultra secret spy government guy. He probably makes pretty good money.
Speaker 2He can afford a house amazon driver and he can't afford a house yeah the wife you know, the rich wife would not have to have given them a house yeah, very strange oh yeah, here we go.
Speaker 2and then he, let's see, he finds out, he finds this disruptor guy clicks a button for them to get a search warrant. He's peeping on Mark, who is his wife's baby, daddy, who is an Amazon delivery guy, and this is the point at which he finds out that they're having a kid. She's having a kid. I mean she's showing hugely when she's in a kid, like in.
Speaker 1I mean she's showing like hugely when she's in the back of the amazon, she's huge I think what he finds out is that they're having the baby shower.
Speaker 1I think he knows about the baby, because a little bit earlier, when he's spying on her dan, she's getting coffee and he's like, hey, you shouldn't be getting that coffee, that's not good for the baby. And then at one point, she, her heart rate is at like 103 and he's like, hey, you shouldn't be getting that coffee, that's not good for the baby. And then at one point, she, her heart rate is at like 103 and he's like that's bad. I was like, if that's bad, I'm dead, because my resting heart rate is like 110.
Speaker 2So I don't know I mean, if you really were gonna do this movie as a movie, sure, yeah, let's start. Let's start with uh, first of all, the two of them would be estranged. It would they'd have to be estranged. I mean that's a given.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, otherwise, if you're not estranged and you're spying that much on your daughter, there's something.
Speaker 2There's something else going on up here because he doesn't even like make a thing of it. He like, literally, is like I'm watching you and I'm watching all the choices you make and I'm judging you Like. Think about that for a second If your dad was watching you, tony, judging every meal you made, everything you didn't do, all day, to be fair, he should.
Speaker 1Let's you know she's doing great.
Speaker 2I'm not doing great, so in that scenario.
Speaker 1Somebody should be doing that and be like hey, guy, get off your ass, what are you doing? Stop sitting there, Go do something, Write something, Do anything. But she's doing fine. She's just getting coffee at one point and he's like hey, what are you doing? What are you getting coffee for? Don't get coffee, you got babies. I don't know what's going on. This is crazy. She's out there saving the world and he's like I got to spy on you every second of every day because you are fucking up girl.
Speaker 2So she's like a medical person and she's working on some vaccine or something Some big drug that's going to change the world, as far as I can tell.
Speaker 1Change the world, okay.
Speaker 2Let's see, okay, let's see okay, so he's surveilling her and then he's. He's so hurt, he almost texts her. But then he surveils her some more. He breaks into things that he's reading, reading her texts, and then he realizes that she's amazing right, I don't.
Speaker 1I don't know what's going on, but she, he was. He literally reads the text between her and her boyfriend slash, husband, slash, baby daddy, it's. That's so uncomfortable, no, so bad, you can't do that you don't even want to read your own old texts.
Speaker 2No, stop, stop, stop it. He goes into his dead wife's Facebook and is like looking at the pictures. Oh God, that was the funniest part.
Speaker 1Were you disappointed that he didn't kiss his computer screen when he was looking at the pictures, because that's what I kept waiting for.
Speaker 2He should have followed the screen. Then I would have been truly satisfied with this movie. Oh, she's so beautiful Look is so beautiful.
Speaker 1I love touching tony oh god, it's so weird I guess I should do this up here if I want to act like I'm right into that camera so I can feel it on my skin I love every one of you viewers.
Speaker 2You're so beautiful, can you feel my human touch? No, they can't feel your human touch and they don't feel any emotional touch from you touching your stupid camera. It's a camera. They all understand that. It's interesting. I told you about Big Joel last week. I've been watching all his videos and he oftentimes makes the point about a third of the way into his videos. When he's talking about media stuff he's all like these are not real people.
Speaker 2Just a reminder, everybody Just a reminder to how people interact with media at this point. Not real people, not living real lives, actually have no real effect on the world. It's, it's it's a story, it's a play. We're not. We're not angry at ice cube for the way he surveilled his daughter not his daughter not happening, not a thing he did I'm a little angry at ice cube for the way that he acted in the movie, but that's different.
Speaker 2That's a little bit different, very different. So he messages his dead wife. This is the old messages. 11 minutes passed, they do the raid on this disruptor. The cams are hot, they go to unit 42. The weather's getting worse, but it was a decoy, decoy, decoy. And then somehow somebody says the war of the world begins. Who said the war of the world begins? Who said that?
Speaker 1Someone said that Like in the most stilted worst line ever. Was it in one?
Speaker 2of those Zoom meetings? Yeah, maybe it was I can't remember.
Speaker 1Yeah, I can't remember.
Speaker 2to be honest with you, I can't remember here come the meteors, and the meteors come down, blow up newscasters. And this was one of my favorite lines in the movie.
Speaker 1Oh, okay.
Alien Invasion Begins
Speaker 2It's 11 minutes in. Here come the meteors. The meteors, you know, literally eight seconds to you know, come from outer atmosphere to think. To come from the outer atmosphere to think. A newscaster gets someone on camera who says my kid's school was hit. They're all dead. They're all dead.
Speaker 1I remember that too.
Speaker 2I laughed so hard. You're like wait a second, wait a second. You both have your kid's school has been hit by a meteor. You're in front of a camera Explaining how all the kids are dead, because you know all the kids are dead. You don't know if any are in the back In the playground.
Speaker 1No, you know all the kids are dead. No, they're all dead.
Speaker 2They've dragged each of their tiny bodies and stacked them up. First graders, because they're small, the couple inches larger, all dead. They dragged each of their tiny bodies and stacked them up. We did a head count First graders, because they're small, the couple inches larger, the second graders.
Speaker 1Piled them up. They did a roll call Jimmy Smith. There he is. I see him over there in the corner.
Speaker 2You can't write lines like this, but thank you for writing lines like this it's great, it's so good, they're all dead.
Speaker 1I think her next line is like we had no warning, as if that's the problem. It's that they're dead.
Speaker 2I guess all the satellites are out. I mean, of course, will sees them and the newscasters see them. We have video footage of this happening, but no, we have no system to warn anyone of anything anywhere.
Speaker 1I have a question. Dan Give me a question. How does anything anywhere.
Speaker 2I have a question, dan give me a question how does like so?
Speaker 1nasa satellites are out, right, so does that mean that other satellites aren't out? Because how is he surveilling everybody? Isn't some of that like routed through satellites? This is a real question.
Speaker 2I don't know how anything works, I bet you there's a number of things that go on right, I think I I know I know the good stuff that we you always see, all the, all the war stuff.
Speaker 1That's all drone 100 okay, those are the yeah okay I'm pretty sure the big drones sit up there.
Speaker 2You know fly real slowly and they just they're just big cameras and they're getting you all that good footage of, you know, convoys being blown up and all that kind of stuff. I mean, I have to imagine satellites do a bunch of bunch of surveillance too you know, I would, I mean I would think so I don't know.
Speaker 2I've, james bond, used to think that they did, that's for sure yeah, but I think it's because drones you know they're up there but they're not. Satellites have to be up quite a ways up, up, right up Right.
Speaker 1Sure they're in space and whatnot.
Speaker 2And there's a lot more atmospheric stuff you have to kind of look through so. I think drones are probably a lot of what he's looking at, and I do not Well, what about television?
Speaker 1What about?
Speaker 2television.
Speaker 1Television uses satellites right.
Speaker 2Well, you bounce the signals. There's like these gigantic, these giant dishes which are all over the place. Down on um, down by the century city mall, there's a place where there's a bunch of them, sure, and I believe that that's like one of those big hubs, that that shoots it up. That you know. I bet you're like the local news and all that kind of stuff right yeah, they bounce it up off a satellite right.
Speaker 1so are those satellites still working? Why are? Is it just NASA satellites that are down? Why does nobody care that all of the satellites are down? That's what I'm not. I'm not understanding, because if I feel like if satellites were down, infrastructure would go down In some maybe not 100% down, but I feel like some things, people would be like flipping channels and be like static, static, static.
Speaker 2Man, that's weird. I don't know. If you put down all the satellites, the the world would just stop right. I feel like it would be bad. I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure you know all the cell phones that that stuff I think bounces all gotta be off the satellite.
Speaker 1That's what the commercial I just watched what it was like oh, more reach everywhere because we have more satellites, or something like that. I'm very confused. I don't understand what satellites were down. What happened to them? I?
Speaker 2don't know. It's just one of those things where they have to say that that tells us something. Because it's sort of like what were the satellites? All the satellites are blind yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1I don't know what that means, like what does? Blind mean don't know don't know what that is shooting blanks.
Speaker 2I don't know it is a little absurd to say that all the satellites are blind and the surveillance guy is nobody's still rocking everything. Well, because he only looks on earth, he doesn't look in the clouds and I have to imagine I don't think you and I can comprehend the amount of satellites that are up there that are doing stuff, I agree. I have the feeling if we found out the real numbers, we'd just be like oh, there's 50,000 satellites up there, right, that's too many.
Speaker 1Because think about it.
Speaker 2Like these military drones that's got to be bouncing those signals up somewhere, yeah.
Speaker 1Right, yeah, 100%. And that's how GPS works, right? I don't know, Dan. I don't know how anything works, it turns out.
Speaker 2GPS. I am sure you're pinging off a GPS satellite and it is telling you within inches where everything is.
Speaker 1Remember that movie, Geostorm. They had a lot of satellites in that movie too. We kind of liked that movie, right. It wasn't terrible, I've seen that movie a bunch of times since we did it. I love that movie.
Speaker 2Moves into the pantheon of movies. Okay, so newscaster blowed up, he spills this. Oh, after that whole school day, I think he spills his coffee.
Speaker 1Because he was also laughing so hard.
Speaker 2As per usual, he's more worried about calling his stupid daughter than saving us. They're going to have an emergency Zoom meeting. Come on where you are. He sends Now he's going to. So the daughter is having problems. So he calls the stupid boyfriend and calls him as he's driving and it's just like this disembodied voice in his thing and he's all like what's happening, what's happening, what? What is he talking through embodied voice in his thing and he's all like what's?
Speaker 1happening? What's happening? What? What is he talking through?
Speaker 2that that like I don't think he'd be talking through the earbuds that are in his head?
Speaker 1I would. I would think so, but it doesn't seem like that's what's happening, because he's looking behind him in the back of the truck as if someone has hitched a ride I don't think there's this magical speaker in the top of the.
Speaker 2hey there, what, what are you doing? Don't put a left hand, he's got some great surround sound.
Speaker 1That's what's going on.
Speaker 2It's very weird. He finally figures it out and he yells at him a bunch and is just a total dick to him when he's trying to get this guy to do something and he's like he's such a dick, dick, Well, he communicates, like my dad used to communicate.
Speaker 1As opposed to asking somebody something, you belittle them and yell at them until they do it. That's the general. That's how you handle situations.
Speaker 2And did that make you more inclined to do what you're supposed to do? Look at how.
Speaker 1I've turned out Pretty good, so I'd say it clearly worked.
Speaker 2So do you think that that like beat the concept of general life responsibility out of you?
Speaker 1and maybe that's what happened, because I don't have it, that's for sure. I don't know when I lost, if I lost it along the way. Yeah, like here's. So let's talk about it right. So, like the lawn needs to be cut right, I can see it, you have a lawn.
Speaker 2You can see it, not now, I mean, this is when I was growing up. Yeah, like I know, the lawn needs to be cut. However, I can see it, you have a lawn. You can see it, not now, I mean, this is when I was growing up like I know, the lawn needs to be cut.
Speaker 1However, I'm playing a video game, so I'm like you know what, maybe I'll just do it after the video game, because there's a lot of time in a day, right? You know what? I mean like you're gonna get it done the difference between now and two hours from now. In that grass's lifespan, nothing that grass is not gonna grow very now. In that grass's lifespan, nothing, nothing that grass is not going to grow very much in that time.
Speaker 2And it'll have grown more. So it's better.
Speaker 1If you mow it later, It'll be even better to cut in a little bit, and then he'll come and just yell and scream oh, I've been working all day, you haven't done jack shit. That lawn needs to be lawned. I was like I was going to do it, but I haven't done jack shit. That lawn needs to be lawn. I was like I was going to do it, but guess what? Now I'm not going to do it, because now you are being rude about it and I'm just going to not do it now, and then we can fight for like three days instead. If you would have just come in and be like hey, you're going to do the lawn, I'm like, yeah, I'm going to do it and that's how I live my life now. Just the second part was like you know, what I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 2I'm good Whenever we get to talk about Tony's relationship with his dad. Just they're the funniest things I've ever heard. I love it so much.
Speaker 1He's a good guy. Now. He's really good to his grandkids.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean that's that's you know your dad loves you and that's that's the thing he. He's trying to send you a certain way, and it's probably not the right way to interact with you at all. So that's.
Speaker 1It's like management style, right, like different people respond to different things, and the thing is like he did his best with what, the tools he had and I just was not responsive to that and in such we clashed. It is what it is. You know, as an adult you can look back and be like, yeah, I mean, we just, we just saw things differently and that's what it is, but it's in the moment. You can't think like that, it's too hard it doesn't stop it from being funny.
Speaker 2He's like talented ice guys ice tea, ice cube, ice cubes telling him turn left, turn right, and then he loses the signal.
Speaker 1Okay, whatever because, maybe because the satellite's blind? Do you ever think about that ice cube?
Speaker 2boom, here comes sandra. He's decided to take her call. Uh, she's looking at it. Here comes a tentacle out of this rock that fell from the sky. Okay, oh, here's the FBI lady. The FBI lady calls him and she's all like what are the rules of engagement? He's like hell, if I know. Right, because why?
Speaker 1would he know, and why should she call?
Speaker 2him. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1He's not his chain of command. He's not your commanding officer. Why are you calling a tech guy Bizarre?
Speaker 2And he's the guy not even answering his phone. Call someone who's answering their phone. It's so weird. It's so weird. Boom, here we go. The first of the tripods opens up and you know, it's your typical alien tripods. We really thought about doing something new. Actually, they do one new thing, in that the tops of the tripods can pop off, and then you know Detach, detach and go. That is new Right.
Speaker 1Is it cool, though I don't know. Oh, is it cool, I did not use the word cool. I never did not use the word cool.
Speaker 2I used the word new.
Speaker 1I'm sorry I wasn't trying to say that. You thought it was cool.
Speaker 2I was just saying, like new, don't put words into my mouth.
Speaker 1You're not the boss of me. Dan loves these aliens. These are Dan's favorite aliens.
Speaker 2I love a couple things about these aliens. There are two things I love about these aliens. Do you yes?
Speaker 1Is it the penis that stabs things? And then nanobytes come out the semen and then they come back in.
Speaker 2There were large penises, that's true.
Speaker 1You know what I want to talk about real quick Dan. Large penises the Zoom calls. You know, agent Coulson, I don't know what his real name is.
Speaker 2He's the bad guy, isn't he, he talks Well.
Speaker 1spoiler alert he is the bad guy.
Speaker 2I think we've done some spoilers, tony, that Well, spoiler alert he is the bad guy.
Speaker 1I think we've done some spoilers, tony. That's true, and I said spoilers at the beginning Earliest I've ever done same spoilers which is good, because really we should just put that in the title Hashtag spoilers.
Speaker 2Spoiler review. That's the title of this review. Okay, what's so in these Zoom meetings?
Speaker 1on these government Zoom meetings. Whenever Coulson talks he's freezing and lagging and like and catching up. Those are called effects. But whenever he's listening he's smooth. So whenever they're not paying attention to him he's just like regularly on camera. But when they try to make him talk they add this digital effect that makes him look like he's in some like secure location and you know his bad reception or whatever. But then when he's just listening he's totally smooth. Yeah, that's called a lack of attention to detail this movie Lack of attention to detail.
Speaker 2I don't know what movie we're talking about. I know.
Speaker 1That's why I had to point out this one thing, just in case you guys thought that they were paying attention.
Speaker 2He calls Dave, his boy. Dave's like Dad, I got something super important to tell you. Dad, dad, dad, I need to tell you something. And Dad's like get lost.
Speaker 1Yeah, so make this make sense to me, dan. Yeah, he spies on his kids all the time. He calls his son and is like, hey, how you doing? And the son's like I have big news. And he's like, fuck off, I have work to do. That doesn't make sense. Why does he call his son and then immediately he's like shut up, dave, I don't want to talk to you, I'm busy.
Speaker 2Well, I bet you Dave Actually Dave probably called him. I bet you Dave called him and he answered yeah, I think Dave called him.
Speaker 1Ice Cube only cares about his daughter and doesn't give a shit about his son.
Speaker 2Is that the Well? That's a pattern we've seen happen in relationships before Tony so true, so true.
Speaker 1Your dad's and son's relationships are tough, you know, especially if you play video games. God forbid, dave, I hear you bud. I guess I should have been hacking the planet.
Speaker 2Hashtag. I wanted my dad's love, so I gave up video games. I'm not an idiot.
Speaker 1Did it work out for you? Yeah, pretty well. Oh, that's great, but now can you play Pac-Man, you idiot.
Speaker 2No, you can't. No, it's terrible with Pac-Man. Actually, I went through Ratchet and Clank 1 and 2, maybe 3.
Speaker 1Oh, that's fun, I did those. Those are fun On the.
Speaker 2PlayStation. There was like this weird game Well, I did the anal probe game. That game, I did the one I did the anal probe game.
Speaker 1That game I did, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2What's the anal probe game? You played the Martians, so you come down as the Martians and you have the anal probe and you anally probe the humans.
Speaker 1This can't be a game. This is not a game, is this?
Speaker 2a game it's called Destroy All Humans Wow.
Speaker 1I don't even know how I came up with that. Yeah, that game was fun, anal.
Speaker 2Probes, destroy All.
Speaker 1Humans. Well, the Anal Probe? Yeah, I mean, I guess, so I'll have to check this out.
Speaker 2It's the.
Speaker 1Anal Probe game. I guess I missed this whole Anal Probe game. I'm sad that I missed it.
Speaker 2Because you run around the countryside and you can I think you can just Putting things in butts, yeah, and people blow up too. You do all kinds of crazy shit in that game. It's fucking cool.
Speaker 2And then the other game I played was this one where there are these two escaped animals from a testing facility and I think that they're like chained together and I think the one animal uses the other animal as his weapon, so he beats you down with the other animal. I don't remember the name of that game. You play weird games. Of course I play weird games. Oh, look at this, it's a drive a car game. I'm not going to play drive a car game. That's stupid. Is it called Whiplash? Maybe?
Speaker 1Redmond the Rabbit and Spanx the Weasel are two animals chained together. Yeah, this has got to be what you're talking about, and their game follows their escape from a product testing facility. So this is called Whiplash everybody, if you haven't heard? 2003 PlayStation 2.
Speaker 2What were you doing? How old were you in 2003?
Speaker 1Why weren't you playing that? I was in high school, man. That was my senior year of high school. I was playing like cool games like headhunter two playstation that's my favorite game. Playstation two headhunter that's a great game. What is? That uh, a lot of mad. It's just a like a spy thriller third person shooter game. It's very fun I played.
Speaker 2I played twisted metal. I did play twisted metal.
Speaker 1That great yeah, that was a hoot.
Speaker 2It was pretty stupid. It wasn't great, it was kind of a dumb game, you know.
Speaker 1It was fun if you played with friends and you're just blowing each other up Like that's a good time. You know, solo is not all that much fun. Now the newer ones that they have, like online play, you can play solo and it's fun.
Speaker 2Sheila who's the FBI person? She gets zapped. I think she gets killed now. I'm not sure she comes back.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't remember her. I don't think she comes back.
Speaker 2So what does Will the guy who can look at anything do anything? Has access to everything government. What does he do to find out what's going on? Turns on CNN. Turns on the news. Looks like the aliens have come here to disable our power grid. Um, the stupid daughter is outside and he's like run, and then she's down and he's watching her heart rate, don't? I guess she has an apple watch.
Speaker 1This is the. This was the part. Yeah, yeah, her heart rate was at like 103 and she's in a pretty high stress situation.
Speaker 2It goes to 130, later 135.
Speaker 1But 130 is high, so we looked it up and an extended amount of time at 130 is dangerous for a baby. She was at 103, and he was like your heart rate's too high, you got to get it down. I'm at 103 while I'm sleeping, bro. Okay, and I'm doing fine. I'm crushing it right now. So she was fine. He was worried for nothing, he's telling her stay calm.
Speaker 2He called, he calls 9-1-1. Why is he called? What does he call 9-1-1?
Speaker 1to keep his daughter calm and it's like it's gotta go sedate her I'm coming, I'm coming.
Speaker 2He's leaving his job In the middle of an alien invasion. He is the Senior analyst for Surveillance Senior and only analyst.
Speaker 1He's the only person working on this, as far as we can tell, and he is like I'm out, deuces, see you later.
Speaker 2They won't let him out the door, but he gets through that. Then he gets down to the other door, to the outside, and he can't get through that and you're like, why don't you just do the thing you just did to the other thing? Right, yeah.
Speaker 1Why do we let him out of the room? I yeah, I mean, that's the question room.
Speaker 2Later he's got to go down to the machine shop, the room, that's what it is, um, okay, um. So what he does is she's like looking around and he sees a tesla over there and he says I got you, and he oh yeah, so he what he does?
Speaker 1he takes over the tesla, he just takes over the tesla, and takes it over which is exactly what all of us anti, these people that are anti tesla is like yeah, someone's gonna be able to hack your car and you're dead, and they're like oh, they're gonna drive.
Speaker 2No, that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1So then we just did a movie where that was the easiest thing in the world for this guy to do is just take over a Tesla.
Speaker 2Maybe the Tesla thing is like a you know A dig, a dig their competition Bezos was like.
Speaker 1as long as we can hit Elon Musk in the movie, I'm good.
Speaker 2He looks at something and he's all like, oh, all the hospitals are full. He knows the hospitals are full, so he's just going to send her to an empty location.
Speaker 1Is that what he does? I guess so.
Speaker 2He just sends her towards her lab. I guess he apologizes. And then she's like Dad, you think you have much more power than you do. You don't have any power. Nope, which is just false.
Speaker 1He's got a lot of power.
Speaker 2The world is dead without him's got a lot of power. The world is dead without him.
Speaker 1That's a lot of power. Seemingly in this movie he's the person in the world with the most power. As far as I can tell the guy that controls.
Speaker 2Goliath supposedly has the most power, although he doesn't do anything with that power.
Speaker 1Right, doesn't do anything, and then at one point the dad pretends it's him or something. I got very confused.
Speaker 2We'll talk about it later, but it was a weird moment. We look at all of her batteries, Her batteries are almost empty. They tell us that she has 19 minutes. I wrote down after that. This is tension. Here we set up this arbitrary 19-minute clock. Tony, how many more times do we refer back to this important?
Speaker 119-minute clock. We never do it again. The next time he cuts to the car, she's gone. I'm pretty sure I don't think we ever talk about it again. We do not, we do not.
Speaker 2And then now he hacks a raven and I'm like why is he hacking a raven, the bird? What a? What a Raven is is an attack drone. Oh, that was the thing I was going to say earlier. I do not believe. I mean, actually you can look down from the satellites. I think you can look down and I think a satellite can look down. It could see, like a like can read, can read a document.
Speaker 1I can. I wish I could remember which of the million movies does, but I think one movie that we could look at is the Gene.
Speaker 2Hackman one. Gene Hackman, will Smith, will Smith movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1Exactly, and I believe at one point they're like in the saddle and they go and then zoom in like super close to yeah, so he's always.
Speaker 2He's always wearing a hat or staying in the shadows.
Speaker 1It's like all moving because you can't, the sky can't see my face.
Speaker 2They're coming from everywhere so it's a thing, it's a thing so maybe, maybe, but I mean the good stuff is is drones, and we do not have a bunch of unmanned drones over flying over our cities looking like at all times yeah, no, that's, that can't be right not a chance.
Speaker 2I mean I don't think no. I mean it's coming, but I don't think it's here yet let me write about that. Um, okay, sandra is alive, sandra's alive. He hacks the raisin raven, starts writing the letter to the kids and now, now we're striking back right and and we're doing great.
Speaker 1but here's my problem, dan. This movie again basically takes place in real time, as far as we can tell, because he's just in the room and you can judge it by your the daughter's trajectory, cause she has something in her leg Now. She's like been stabbed or whatever.
Speaker 2She's bleeding out, Bleeding injuries in her leg somehow, but and there's something in there, and there's something in there which we never see. But she talks about wanting to take it out and he, of course, being a doctor, says don't take it out.
Speaker 1But then she does take it out or it doesn't matter. We'll talk about that in a second, but my whole thing is like so it's basically in real time, but we have staged a full army counterattack across the entire globe in 15 minutes and it's successful, I mean.
Speaker 2Come on, you know there's like, first of all it would all Be fighter jets and bombers. They show like infantry, bang, bang bang bang.
Speaker 1Yeah, like that's not. You're just gonna get Lasered, you're dead.
Speaker 2Whatever, but you're not sending, you may be sending tanks Sure tanks would be great.
Speaker 1Yeah, like that's not, you're just going to get lasered, you're dead, whatever, but you're not sending. You may be sending tanks, sure, tanks would be great. Yeah, I mean, I've seen Independence Day. It took days to weeks for them to stage a counterattack, all right.
Speaker 2And you got to get Judd Hirsch out there in the RV. You got to get Judd.
Speaker 1Everyone should get Judd Hirsch out there. I love that man.
The Data-Eating Martians
Speaker 2So they're taking out the critical spots, but then they're going to go after the nukes nest next. Oh no, this is the point, this is the point. And then they you know, will's like you know tells them what's happening, and then the president's like there, and he's all like, okay, let's do your plan. And then he says, let's initiate the war of the worlds.
Speaker 1Yeah, there you go. Do you think that's the code name they've had for a while? I don't know If any alien ever comes down and starts a war. The name of that mission War of the Worlds. Doesn't matter who it is, what they want, war of the Worlds.
Speaker 2And now we learn that NATO and China and the US have joined forces Immediately.
Speaker 1Okay, no, nope.
Speaker 2Not going to happen. What's wrong with that sentence?
Speaker 1I mean honestly we're going to let the other ones get destroyed while we try to fight back and be the only ones left.
Speaker 2Sorry. That's just the world we live in. Always games with Chip, but the US kind of part of NATO.
Speaker 1Kind of Not really anymore.
Speaker 2We're still partly. We're still, and I mean, is China part? I guess. China's not part of NATO. I guess we're all part of whatever. Yeah, I think we are part of NATO, right yeah?
Speaker 1We definitely were pre-Trump.
Speaker 2I don't know if he's taken us out or not. Yeah, because he's always pissed off at everybody else because they don't pay enough money.
Speaker 1Is the United States still part of NATO.
Speaker 2Yes, we're still part of NATO.
Speaker 1Hold on. Ai is going to answer it.
Speaker 2Yes we're still part of NATO. Hold on, ai's going to answer it. Yes, we are doing it. And then we win. We're beating them and Ice Cube gets to yell. Yeah, things are going really well. Take your intergalactic asses back home. He ignores Sander Sander tries to call him.
Speaker 1instead, he's following the blood trail of his daughter and yeah, and that's the part that's just so fun to me. He like gets on that call and it's like we're gonna win the war and then he cuts back and the tesla where he left his daughter covered in blood bro there's so much blood everywhere.
Speaker 1It looks like she exploded at one point. She just exploded and her blood and guts are everywhere. And he just looks at the screen. He goes oh, it was the funniest, I laughed so hard. That's your favorite part. I just think that sometimes they didn't tell Cube what was happening on the screen in front of him.
Speaker 2And they were just like just give us a couple of reactions, we'll just put him in somewhere in the movie um, he's yelling at mark to hurry up, and mark says the one line that we don't really get a follow-up of, but I love, I'm cramping up. Right, didn't he say that? It's very hard to hear. But he says I'm cramping up, you're like it's because he had to.
Speaker 1He got out of the car and was running at one point and he was just like I'm cramping up, I don't know man.
Speaker 2It turns out that everything was a fake out, and what the Martians really want are the government data centers, and so they've all just changed course, tricking us, but not because they want the information.
Speaker 1They just eat it. Is that like they don't learn from it? That's just their food source? Is that what I'm to believe in this movie, dan?
Speaker 2If you're to believe what they say. I believe that is what the movie is telling us, that all they're here for-. They're just hungry. They're just hungry for specific types of data, and they've detected this data on the planet.
Speaker 1I mean Because we initiated the Goliath project, which is the biggest spy data.
Speaker 2Yeah, we're going to talk about Goliath in a minute which has like one of the greatest lines of what Goliath can do.
Speaker 1Okay, good, and we all know Amazon is building Goliath as we speak. It's probably already there. This is their soft launch for it Just to be like see, we need it.
Speaker 2So the Martians are having sex slash feeding on the data centers. Yeah, they're getting it, his stupid kid calls him and he's all like. The government's been keeping secrets. They've got this thing Goliath. It's surveillance times 100. They've got secret satellites and it's not going to stop.
Speaker 1Sandra is at the which is, how does he know? I guess because he has those tapes that he shows later, so he knows that they're eating the data. Got it Wait who knows what. The son. The son knows Mr.
Speaker 2Disruptor. He doesn't know they're eating the data.
Speaker 1Oh, he doesn't All right, I don't know.
Speaker 2He just knows that there's Goliath, which is secret surveillance. Yeah, sandra's at the LA data center.
Speaker 1His feed is down, but she goes in there and she gets attacked by data bugs and, uh, that's a good name. Do they call them data bugs? I wrote that one. Yeah, that's pretty good, dan. Now, shit, save that for a movie that you write. That's better than this. Put that on one of my note cards, nah there you go, um, okay, just just separate.
Speaker 2Uh, so there's all these these articles about the people that are getting in relationships with AI, because they're the world's stupidest people. I've heard yes yep, she really loves me. Have you heard what they call them?
Speaker 1the AI sex bots no like their race. They're called the wire born here's my problem with that is that that's kind of a cool name. Like I, I kind of dig the name, but it's so stupid what they're doing that I. It's hard to reconcile those two facts because, like the wire born, that's a cool, that could be a cool thing. But then it's like, oh, what do they do now? We have sex with ai bots.
Speaker 2That's not cool you don't just have sex with them. They tell you that you're cool.
Speaker 1There's other stuff you're so interesting. Yeah, that's what they do tell you you're cool that's what?
Speaker 2well, that's what it's about. It's that's what the relationship, the relationship i'm- using ai.
Speaker 1All wrong. If I could, I should just have ai pump up my ego all day.
Speaker 2Yes, that's what it does, ai, I was in this movie is it good?
Speaker 1and they're like yeah, this is the best movie ever.
Speaker 2Yeah, and the thing I was I was thinking about. You know we'll get back to the stupid movie because it's funny. Yeah, the ai is looking out there to find out everything about you, so that the AI knows what you care about and then fakes you know what you care about, then also fakes, like what those kinds of people? You know what's wrong with those people? It's, it's, it's a pernicious beast.
Speaker 2And it seems like she knows me, but of course she doesn't know you. It's all bullshit, and that's the thing. You send out a feeler in one direction and then, if that doesn't work, it goes the other direction. It's like aha gotcha.
Speaker 1Aha, I figured out. Now we're narrowing it down. People were zoning in on who you are as a person. Yeah, it's the same thing they do with personality tests. That makes sense. I heard that one an AI bot like convinced someone to poison themselves or something Like they were asking for first aid advice or something, and it was like I don't know. I didn't read the article.
Speaker 2No, I heard about it. What it was was, I think it was about salt, and it told them to use like sodium chloride or something instead of salt or something like you know, oh yeah, that's not the right, so it you know's basically the right symbol guys. So basically, I think it was sort of something like that basically it told you to naco, yeah, put something that you shouldn't be putting in your body on your food to put into your body and you know what.
Speaker 1Someone was dumb enough to do that yeah, but that's the problem, right like we're already this and we are so early. I mean not to get ai talk, but we're so early on of this and so so many people are so like reliant on it already. Sure, it's very scary, very scary. It's a great helper. To be clear, I love AI. I have a great time working with AI. Ai is helping me rebuild my website right now and it looks dope, but like use it correctly.
Speaker 2Let's be careful here, guys. That let's be careful here, guys. That is the thing about human beings, is you often? Have to put a bunch of guardrails Up because they're going to be doing.
Speaker 1And we have zero guardrails up right now. It is the wild west.
Speaker 2So Mark has finally Gotten to Sandra, or Faith, or whatever her name is, faith. He has to stop the bleeding. How does he stop the bleeding?
Speaker 1Well, first, of all, let's just talk about the fact that he has to stop the bleeding because she took out the object in her leg, which is she is in at least a little bit of the medical field, sort of oh yeah, she is.
Speaker 2At best, absolutely she will have had to go through multiple years, something, multiple years towards. She may not be a full surgeon, but to do the research she did, I would assume she would have had to go through some real medical, she has to know at least a little bit.
Speaker 1Number one rule is she'd never pull it out.
Speaker 2Especially when you're dumbed down. I just don't like the way it looks. Well, I think what she said was Especially when you're dumbed down. Never, ever, ever.
Speaker 1I just don't like the way it looks, Right. Well, I think what she said was. I think, literally what she said was like I thought I could stop the bleeding by taking it out, which doesn't even make sense. That's not even a sentence. Someone could possibly say it's going to start healing once you get it.
Speaker 2It can't heal until you get it out.
Speaker 1That's a great point Start the healing process Great point Now, if you're going to cauterize it, you know, like if you that would be cool, but that might be a visceral thing that you would do in a movie. Sure sure, but that's not this movie. Nope, it sure isn't. Anyhow. Getting back to your wonderful question, mark, our resident Amazon delivery driver. By the way, part of that job does not include wrapping packages, however, he pulls out his trusty packing tape no, no, no, yeah, I believe he has a taped gun.
Speaker 2Does he have a tape gun?
Speaker 1he has a tape gun, yeah the wrapping tape gun, yeah, and he just circles that bad but just really wraps it tight in that shitty tape and that's it, that's all he does.
Speaker 2And Ice Cube was like you can't do it like that. He's like doesn't he do like a trusted professional? Yeah, something yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, because he's an Amazon guy, so he knows how to wrap a package that's not part of. He's not the guy in the warehouse wrapping the packages and then delivering.
Speaker 2Those are two different jobs. The one thing I forgot to say is once they start sucking the data things, then all our data is messed up and so our military just stops working and there's like this and things just fall out of the sky. That's one second that they have. The warships out in the ocean are tipped over on their sides. That's right.
Speaker 1No, Is that how they float? I mean?
Speaker 2I guess maybe it could fuck up the ballast tanks. I mean, maybe that could happen if you did something very specific and like flooded all the ballast tanks on one side and filled up all the other ones. Maybe you could get to do that and then they show this one airplane falling out of the sky, not you know airplanes flies along, but this one's just like just falling to the ground.
Speaker 1It's not going forward. That's my biggest problem. It's not like it's going forward and tail spinning or whatever, it's midair stopped and it just kind of falls down to the ground. That's not how planes work. What are we talking about? Your plane has to have forward momentum to stay in the sky.
Speaker 2Well, it didn't have forward momentum and it fell out of the sky. Tony, that's what happens.
Speaker 1I mean, that's technically the steps that happen. But it had to have been moving forward and it wasn't.
Speaker 2Oh, my God, it wasn't at all. There's rioting, there's looting. He has to. Okay. So Xandra looks at the data bugs. I wonder if this is one of my favorite parts. She's got some of the little data bugs. Yeah, she took some. She looks at them under the microscope and you have their little metal and then there's like these little red things laying, just laying around, not moving, just laying in there. They're like is that blood?
Speaker 1Are these things like?
Speaker 2hybrid of living and machine.
Speaker 1Yeah, they sure are.
Speaker 2It's not a living thing if it has blood laying around inside of it.
Speaker 1That's not what? Yeah, that's the definition of alive. Okay, if there's blood inside you.
Speaker 2So that Tesla was alive because it had blood inside of it.
Speaker 1That Tesla was super alive. She brought it to life big time because her blood was everywhere.
Speaker 2Oh my.
Speaker 1God so good, it's great. This is a wonderful film.
Speaker 2So we got the tape gun, we had the blood in the bugs and then we have probably the best scene of the thing. He's like feeling morose, you know, not going well, he goes to his. Facebook page because the bad guys are looting all. Oh, there's rioting and looting in the streets, but the bad guys are eating all of our data and he gets to his wife's Facebook page just to watch as the phone and they found that server. One at a time. One at a time, you know, like in real time.
Speaker 1So one thing. I don't know if you saw this. There was a message, there was a. What do you call it when the app sends you a message was a notification.
Speaker 2He got a notification.
Cannibal Code and Amazon to the Rescue
Speaker 1I don't remember that said from Facebook, that said your memories are deleting, or something. I was like what? Why would Facebook send him that, that notification? That doesn't make any sense. That's not how anything works. Like no one would be like oh, he sets. That's not how anything works. Like no one would be like oh, oh, your stuff's disappearing, guy, you better get in there so weird.
Speaker 2Then he turns on the voicemail that he listened to earlier and she starts it, and then her voice starts melting.
Speaker 1Yeah, which is not. That's not how that works.
Speaker 2It would just disappear like like it's.
Speaker 1And what does he do?
Speaker 2He takes off his glasses and he throws them in frustration.
Speaker 1It's the only time in this whole movie that he shows real emotion, though, just to be fair, he gets really mad at this part.
Speaker 2I think he tips over the chair too. I think he tipped over the chair too.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's upset the world. Dying is fine, but this one message from his dead wife, that's everything to him. It's very sad.
Speaker 2And this happening gives him the great idea that he should listen to Disruptor's voice and then pitch change it, because I guess her voice pitch changed a little in that thing.
Speaker 1Right, and it sounded just like Disruptor and he's like wow, what if Disruptor's voice also sounds very familiar to me, you know? Natural it's like wow, what if Disruptor's voice?
Speaker 2also sounds very familiar to me, you know Natural. It's natural hey Dad, that's my son. Oh my God, it's my son. It's a Muppet's voice. It's the Muppets, they're doing it.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's so stupid. Calls his son Like here's what would have made more sense, right if his son would have said the same phrase. Yeah, that disruptor used at some point and he was like oh shit, that seems weird, now I'll play with it and oh look, now I can make it's him. You know, maybe something like that.
Speaker 2Maybe this is just silly, calls the son the son is like yep. And first of all hes the son. The son is like yep.
Speaker 1And First of all, he calls the son and the first thing he says is it's you, it's you, dave, and Dave's like yep, sure is. I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 2And I'll say it simply His dad has a super secret job and he's like yeah, I know what you do.
Speaker 1I know everything that you do, I what you do. I know everything that you do. I spy on you, bitch.
Speaker 2Yeah, and he refers to the world's dumbest thing in the world, the surveillance industrial complex.
Speaker 1I didn't understand what that even meant. Okay, what it is, break it down for me, tell us it's what's the old phrase?
Speaker 2The old phrase is like the corporate industrial complex, I think, or something. It's three words like that. But it's not surveillance industrial complex, it's something. And basically what it was was people in the 70s and 80s were afraid that the corporations were going to take over and spy on us and rule our lives and control our lives through economy, which is exactly what happened.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean that's true, so I guess they were right all along.
Speaker 2Yep, so they do, past is the past and they're like we're working together. And then somebody's like I got to go. So what's happening? Oh, okay. Somebody's like I got to go what? So what's happening? Oh okay. So they put together this zip drive. That is basically just like ratting out all. He gets a zip drive, goliath, zip, and it's just like Roswell and just all these bullshit things are all really the government. So the government is known about the aliens and they've somehow set up Goliath to.
Speaker 1Well, so they built goliath and then, and then the other guy was like whoa, agent colson, you can't do, you can't turn goliath on because it'll attract the aliens and then colson was like I don't give a shit, I'll be able to beat him. I got all the information on the planet which doesn't even even make sense.
Speaker 2Doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1That's not a response to the aliens are going to come, because no one on Earth has the information. It doesn't make any sense, but he turns it on anyhow because he just you know he's a bad guy or whatever Ice.
Speaker 2Cube, of course, not happy about this. They lied to my face Ooh, that's pretty close to Ice Cube. And this is what they say Goliath can do it can predict every person's thoughts and movements Right?
Speaker 1I don't think that's true. I don't think that's true. You know, I don't know a lot about a lot, but I don't think that's true. I don't know. Maybe it is I don't doubt that the government, I think. If someone could tell me what I'm going to do next, I would appreciate it, because then I could look down the line and be like maybe we should change, let's go a different route.
Speaker 2Some of the things I've made in my life.
Speaker 1No one could have predicted, no one could have predicted, because you should have never done it, dan.
Speaker 2Okay, so let's see what happens. Oh, he calls the Calls the bad guy, and it's like Okay, so let's see what happens. Oh, he calls the bad guy and we find out that Goliath is in the same building as him, in the basement.
Speaker 1Okay, well, that's convenient. Well, yeah, we can't travel outside this building. We don't have enough money.
Speaker 2The guy in charge of Goliath turns him off, denies his access and then the son undenies his access.
Speaker 1Just turns it on. It's just like you know. Nah, we'll do the opposite of that. Let's just turn it back on. That's silly.
Speaker 2The most powerful computer system in the world that can do everything, can't stop this stupid kid.
Speaker 1Yeah. So how has this kid struggled so hard to like get everyone to understand what's going on? You know what I mean. It seems he could do anything in the world.
Speaker 2He should have already won. They do a terrible war games. Pitch back to shall we play a game? It's like, oh, please, please, don't do war games.
Speaker 1Oh yeah.
Speaker 2No, I didn't even cross my.
Speaker 1I wasn't paying enough attention to think about other things. But they also do a nod to Top Gun in a little bit, which I was mad about.
Speaker 2I missed that. So there you go. So what they're going to do is they're going to make a denial of service virus a rabbit virus. Dave assembles the team. 15 minutes later they have it or no they welcome the crew and I think they just make it right.
Speaker 1RapidVirusexe. Well, first they're like your dad's part of the government he's a bad guy. And then the son's like no, he's not. And they're like, okay, cool. So they had to put that in there, just so you believe that they'd work with him. Cool, I'll do it.
Speaker 2All right, cool man, let's go. They do the virus. It's working. And then the upload freezes. And the bad guys have hacked them and now they can find Goliath and go and eat Goliath. The disruptors all now their faces are appearing I'm this guy and this thing, I'm this guy and this thing, and they must flee. And then they all start getting blasted. And then Dave gets blasted and Ice Cube yells no, no. He should have then said not Dave.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah. And then what happens?
Speaker 2Dave almost calls once he's like it's Dave, are you there, dave? Then Dave calls again and it's like it's Dave, are you there, dave? Then Dave calls again and it's like Dave. It's a different apartment and Dave's like yo chump, I wouldn't have been in that house. I moved over to my bro's house.
Speaker 1I rerouted my IP, so this guy reroutes his IP. He fools the government. He fools the aliens that are more technology advanced, the government. He fools the aliens that are more technology advanced just by using a VPN and rerouting his signal. That is ridiculous. And then what happens, tony? Then he tears down his green screen, which made me laugh really hard.
Speaker 2Oh, did he really?
Speaker 1I didn't see that he was green screening his own apartment, his dad's apartment. But really, then he takes out his green screen and he's like see, it's my friend's apartment, which was really, really funny to me that's so funny yeah, I know it was. It was a really nice moment. Uh made me laugh really hard, but that's all I remember. Then what happens?
Speaker 2we find out that ice cube gets mad because they destroyed his house.
Speaker 1Oh, he's like you couldn't have rerouted it to somewhere else. They blew up my house. He's like what the hell boy?
Speaker 2he's like you should have rerouted his buddy's house and destroyed his house, and not destroyed so good, yeah, that is, it's a tent. This whole moment's really really perfect yes he's so mad that he blew up his own house um, oh, this is where we do the blood and the dna and life and the computers are the same thing. Yeah, yeah, so this is where we do the blood and the DNA and life and the computers are the same thing, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2So this is the point. This is the point where the movie becomes Beyond incredulous. I'm incredulous that they would go there. Okay, they figure out that Faith, who is working on this magic vaccine or something to save the world, instead, will use her vaccine as a computer program with marks, numbers, and then will make the cannibal code which will defeat the bad guy.
Speaker 1Makes them eat their own data or something. I guess it's I mean ostensibly.
Speaker 2What it should be is we'll infect every bit of goliath with this. So then when they eat goliath, it will infect every bit of them. That's what it's gonna.
Speaker 1It should be like a double infect right, it's gonna infect goliath and then if they eat goliath, then they're gonna affect it it's just like a more confusing independence day where the whole answer was we'll just upload a virus.
Speaker 2No, this is new. It's got to be new.
Speaker 1They thought of this new.
Speaker 2Just like that. What was that? Oh, that the saucers can detach from the things. This is the other new thing that they figured out.
Speaker 1Yeah, so new, so fresh, so terrible.
Speaker 2So nectar Dave almost calls Faith. Blah, blah, blah. Oh, now we turn on the real clock of the movie Ten minutes. They're sending self-bombers to blow this place up. Ice Cube's going to have to get down into the basement and there's a five-mile blast area.
Speaker 1Which is pretty big, by the way. I think it's more than I can move in a day, that's for sure. Five miles is a long ways.
Speaker 2So what he has to do is they've got the code and they're like okay, take this code, put it on a thumb drive, go into the basement.
Speaker 1He's like I don't have a thumb drive.
Speaker 2I left. That was my big laugh of the movie. I don't have a thumb drive. I left. That was my big laugh of the movie.
Speaker 1I don't have a thumb drive either, Dan. How about that?
Speaker 2How do?
Speaker 1you not have a thumb drive? I mean, I have one, but I don't bring it with me everywhere. I do bring it to work.
Speaker 2Hold on, tony. If I said to you, could you get a thumb drive, could you go pick up a thumb drive? Could you walk around your house? And pick up a thumb drive. You'd be like, well, yeah, but I don't have a thumb drive. Yes, you have a thumb drive, I got one here. Yes, tony, that's called having a thumb drive. I got another one right here. Do you have an external hard drive that you could use?
Speaker 1I got one right here. I got all sorts of them?
Speaker 2Of course you do. I got them everywhere Because you're a human being.
Speaker 1But what I'm saying is I don't bring them everywhere. So like Mark just has one on him, like why he's an Amazon driver, why would he have one on him? That doesn't make any sense. In case somebody orders one, in case he needs to deliver it from Amazon.
Speaker 2I got 50,000 different items on my truck.
Speaker 1Oh god, yeah, so anyhow. So ice cube doesn't have a thumb drive, so what? Um so mark?
Speaker 2is gonna fly him one via drone because of their new but their new thing prime air prime air, but he can't just do it.
Speaker 1That's not allowed. So ice cube needs to place an amazon order in order to get the delivery, because he can't just use the drone anytime he wants. It has to be a proper amazon order because they have security protocols. It's very safe, dan yep, amazon air, very safe. So you have to do it properly, otherwise it won't work. So he does does that.
Speaker 2He orders Click, click, click, click, click, click, click.
Speaker 1We get to watch him make a real Amazon order in real time. Just in case you've never seen it before and you need a little course on how to order something on Amazon, just watch this movie, it'll tell you how to do it.
Speaker 2There's little kids in tents on the steps of Himalaya, the Himalayas watching this movie and are like oh, I get it.
Speaker 1Now I can order things.
Speaker 2So he has to get it to there. We see the Capitol building destroyed. This is like it's so bad. They hack a drone to protect this little drone from the martians, because somehow then martians know that they need to destroy this this little tiny drone, because the data, they got the data. Okay, they eat, they eat the data, they know the data so we have like this 3d flying through the, through the streets and people shooting.
Speaker 2It's a drone shooting the Martians and then it crashes the drone in because he only had two missiles and he needed to destroy three of them. The little drone gets in has to make a left at hand solo. Is that in the movie? Oh yeah, it's driving through the office and they're like make a left.
Speaker 1At hand solo, there's a little statue, there's a figure.
Speaker 2He has a statue of Han Solo Next to their desk. He goes down there and he gets attacked by alien tentacles.
Speaker 1Oh wait, we missed my favorite we missed the line Dan. When he's talking to, because he needs directions in Goliath to get to the right server.
Speaker 2Somehow the daughter is doing this Somehow.
Speaker 1And when he asks he goes, talk to me goose, that's how he asks for directions, and that's from. Top Gun and it was very insulting. I was real mad when it happened. I'm sorry. So now we're in the tentacles, we're making love with tentacles, let's go.
Speaker 2He's having sex with the tentacles. He gets the thing. He says good job, Mark. Then they have to hack in and find the security camera so they can steal the code, Something I absolutely do in one of my space tech stories, by the way.
Speaker 1Oh, Something I absolutely do in one of my space tech stories by the way.
Speaker 2Oh wow, they stole it from you. What they do, it's a space station that's for sale, and so they set up a camera. It's for sale. So when the agent for the thing comes to show them around, they make a video of the thing and sneak back in.
Speaker 1Is it just for, like a weekend party? They just want to get in and party. Yeah, cool, cool, cool, cool. I dig it.
Speaker 2Boom. So he gets in, he goes there, the alien tentacles are holding him down. He crawls, crawls, crawls. Very sexy Because you can't see anything. Looks terrible, can't tell what's going on and he just kind of goes to sleep what you can see, because we have a magic close-up camera of his hand pushing the thumb drive into the thing. I'm like, wait a second, whose camera is that? Who's shooting that? I don't make no sense. And then it works, and then they call off the attack and call off everything.
Speaker 1The aliens all died Three seconds ago.
Speaker 2The B-52 bombers are abort abort, abort.
Speaker 1But how do they know to abort? Because they don't know what's happening. They don't have the data. Okay, nope. All they see is yeah, I don't know, it doesn't make any sense, there's no reason for them to abort. But they all scream abort and then they fly away. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2That's it, man. They won the war of the worlds by putting a computer virus into an actual thing that fixes real virus.
Speaker 1It's just why but only thanks to Amazon Air and delivery through the air.
Speaker 2He sends the email that talks about how he was an asshole and he was trying not to be an asshole anymore.
Speaker 1I'm a bad dad but I'll do better if I make it through, because you kids Sandra takes over all the NASA, because what a good job.
Speaker 2Oh, I left it out. The other greatest part of the movie, oh, wow, okay. As the little drone is trying to get to the building, it crashes and it's flipped over.
Speaker 1Oh God, so it's sitting there, flipped over.
Speaker 2They see through the camera a homeless guy and they're like-.
Speaker 1On his phone.
Speaker 2They hack his cell phone and they're all like, hey, homeless guy, unhoused guy, go flip the he's like no way they're like we'll give you a year free of what? Was it a year free of Amazon Prime or something, something terrible.
Speaker 1No, because the one that got him was an Amazon gift card. That's what he agrees to. So he said no to something else that I don't remember. Okay, tony, but then says yes to the Amazon gift card.
Speaker 2So they send him a $1,000 Amazon gift card and he walks over there, flips it over. Tony, you get a phone call from someone and they're like I'm trying to save the world, blah, blah, blah. I need your help. All you got to do is go on Amazon and buy something or do something like that, and you get an email with a $1,000 Amazon gift card. Would you?
Speaker 1open that email. I would open the email, but I'll tell you right now, I would never in a million years click the link. You never click the link, people. It's a scam. It's scamming bro. You can't click the link. You can open the email and look at it. Just be like man. This is a fake ass email. And they just sent it to his phone. It was just like a picture of a thousand dollar gift card. I was like this you never click it. Don't ever click it. Ridiculous, so stupid.
Speaker 2Sandra takes over NASA. Joe Rogan's podcast endorses what they're doing. You had to have respected that, Tony.
Speaker 1Did I? Did I have to respect that? No, thanks, no, thank you.
Speaker 2The government calls our boy, Will, and they're all like we got a new magic job for you because you did so good. And he's all like word, it is over. I'm now going to disrupt you and the government forever.
Speaker 1I'm spying on you yeah like wait what.
Speaker 2They're going to let him do it.
Speaker 1Wouldn't it just be easier for him to be on the inside and, like, try to affect change? No, man.
Speaker 2He's got to do with his hacker bros. No, because here's the thing. Hold on, by the way, all the other hackers killed.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, they're all dead. So he's the last one. He's the last one left.
Speaker 2Thank goodness for that dead, so he's the last one. He's the last one now.
Speaker 1Thank goodness for that we still got. He was the most powerful person in that movie. The president was like yep, let's do your plan did he say let's do your plan? He said he was like yeah, let's do your plan he could tell the president what to do, so the best case for him to affect change would be to stay in that position and be like no, we need to do this ethically. I don't understand. He had the perfect opportunity, threw it out the window. I'm going to tell you something.
Speaker 2Tony.
Speaker 1Tell me, tell me.
Speaker 2Work in the system. It's the smartest place to work.
Speaker 1Hey, there you go. I wish I was in the system.
Speaker 2Oh, brad, I did my show yesterday. Now I'm getting very tired because we we got this was a very, very upbeat. This is a high energy, energy show.
Speaker 1Dan, I'm sorry, I know we got to take it down next week for you so this was a fun movie.
Speaker 2It was the beginning was pretty. It took a while to get going, but once it got going you were like, okay, this is once you're in it. This is with some wild shit some really stupid things, really a lot of terrible choices, and somehow it all works out in the end as it should. Tony, we need a. We need a movie for no. No, talk about something you like this week.
Final Thoughts and Next Week's Movie
Speaker 1Yes, that's what we're doing first. Um, we watched the accountant two last night, was it good? You know, dan, it was good. Yeah, I did not like it as much as I liked the first. I did not think it was as tight as the first, sure, and I thought that it was jokier than the first, yeah um, not surprising, which is not it's not quite the right vibe for me.
Speaker 1Interestingly enough to me it like people like this way more than the first one in general, like this has a 91 or something on rotten tomatoes fan score. Really people like people because it's more it's it leans more into like a buddy-buddy comedy with him and Bernthal, which is great, yeah. But also like not the same vibe as the first one at all and it's just not as tight. Like I like a nice tight, thrilling action movie and this is you know, it's looser, it does more character stuff. It's still good, it's interesting. It just wasn't the same vibe as the first one but we enjoyed it.
Speaker 2That first movie was unlike any other movie. Yeah, correct, 100%. He is completely effective throughout that movie. He is never ineffective 100% yeah. Writing a movie that's tight and tense but your main guy is super effective is is really gratifying it's very hard to do, but when they, if you do something like that, it's so gratifying because he's not he's got all these problems, but when, when he starts shooting people, he's gonna win.
Speaker 2He is not going to lose and you're like I like that. I like that a lot, because that's what happens when the real people go in there. The real people win. They you know, yeah, the the pros are the pros and the rest of the people are amateurs. And it was really amateurs uh, I watched the first two episodes of alien earth.
Speaker 1Oh, okay, I, I love it, I okay, it's. It's on our list, it's great, it's totally it. That ties into what's coming next. Dan Tony, we now need a movie to see.
Speaker 1So in honor of Alien Earth coming out and the fact that I haven't seen the Alien series in a long time, I was like boy, we should go back and watch everything we need to watch before this happens in the timeline. Turns out, not a lot happens before this in the timeline, other than starting at the very beginning with alien v predators. That's what we're gonna do. We do avp. What is that I mean?
Speaker 2you don't know what alien versus predator is trying to think of when it, when did it come out?
Speaker 1oh, it came out like 2006, 7 2000, alien alien versus 2004. I was wrong. So it's my freshman year of college and does this occur on?
Speaker 2earth where does it occur? That's not the the, the danny glover one is no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1So this is like a prequel that combines the two great series of aliens and predators and it's their showdown on Earth. I think it's like in the snow or something it's going to be. I don't want to give it away too much.
Speaker 2It's really really bad Since 2004.
Speaker 1I remember thinking this was the worst movie I had ever seen when I saw it. I'm sure that my opinion will be different now, having done this podcast. That's true, but I remember being pretty silly we did so. I'm excited and that's the first step in your rewatch to to watch things in the chronological timeline of alien before you watch I love alien earth.
Speaker 2I loved alien romulus.
Speaker 1A lot of people were like we haven't seen it yet I like, but that's what that takes place in between alien and aliens. I think, right, I think so. That sounds right, I think that's right, yeah, anyhow, so we're going all the way back to the beginning of the timeline, because I think this one took place in real time.
Speaker 2Oh, okay, if.
Speaker 1I remember correctly it's the 2000s, so it's not the future, it's now baby. Pretty sure that's right.
Speaker 2And you're sure it's not the Danny Glover one where it's all hot.
Speaker 1I don't even know what that means. How hot? No, it's not Danny Glo, dandy glover, that's a predator movie. I think that's a predator movie I think that's like predator 2, predator, predator 3 predator 2 in the city or something in the city because that one's, really that one's weird. Well, we can watch that too, dan, because I've seen that one, but I don't think I've seen this alien versus predators this week is avp. Okay, we're doing it. Uh yeah, in honor of Alien Earth, because I'm going to have to watch them either way.
Speaker 2So I figured this would be a good place to start that You're going to have to tick it off your list. You may as well make me suffer along with you for once.
Speaker 1You better believe it. The only thing that's better than being in pain is being in pain with friends or something, I don't know.
Speaker 2There's a saying somewhere in that the only thing better than being in pain is knowing that your friends are in more pain.
Speaker 1That you're inflecting pain on them as well. Yeah, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2Others are suffering also. Yeah, that's true, I agree with that. Well cool this was. You know, I picked this movie. As per usual, I picked the great ones.
Speaker 1Sure usual, I picked the great ones. Um sure, sure, sure, sure you picked. You know what todd sent it to us.
Speaker 2Okay, let's give todd his credit. He said to us I was already thinking about this, I know you said you've already seen it. I had never, I had no idea that it had.
Speaker 1I don't, I had never heard of it. The first I thought was what todd said, that I was like what is this?
Speaker 2it is great stuff it is interesting how it's like an Amazon movie with Amazon stuff, but then it's also against the surveillance industrial companies Anti-establishment.
Speaker 1There's a lot of things that you're like this is very weird.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1It's great stuff. I'd watch it. I recommend it.
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