Hate Watching with Dan and Tony
Hate Watching with Dan and Tony
Hate Watching Happy Gilmore 2: On Par or Fore-get About It?
In this passionate, no-holds-barred episode, Tony and Dan find themselves on opposite sides of the Happy Gilmore 2 debate, creating one of their most spirited discussions yet. Tony defends the Netflix sequel as a masterful love letter to the original, awarding it an impressive 8.5/10, while Dan dismisses it as a lazy rehash that fails to stand on its own merits.
The hosts dissect the film's controversial use of flashbacks to the 1996 original, with Tony celebrating the painstaking attention to detail and Dan questioning why a movie needs to remind viewers of jokes from three decades ago. Their conversation evolves into a fascinating exploration of nostalgia, fan service, and what makes a successful sequel work.
Where they do find common ground is in praising the professional golfers who appear throughout the film. John Daly's deadpan delivery (especially his "contutor" line that became Dan's lone laugh-out-loud moment), Scotty Scheffler's surprising comedic timing, and cameos from celebrities like Eminem and Bad Bunny emerge as bright spots even Dan can't deny.
The discussion takes particularly interesting turns when examining the cemetery scene between Happy and Shooter McGavin, the controversial "shifty" sequence that raises questions about the film's politics, and whether Adam Sandler has betrayed the working-class roots that made the original character so relatable.
By the end, Tony and Dan's disagreement transforms into a thought-provoking meditation on what we want from our entertainment: comfortable nostalgia that reminds us of what we loved, or fresh experiences that challenge us to feel something new. Whether you loved or hated Happy Gilmore 2, this episode offers a passionate analysis from both perspectives that will make you reconsider your own stance.
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Speaker 2:We'll ramp up production. That should help. That should really help drive the viewers right.
Speaker 1:It's probably the problem with the show there's not enough episodes.
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Speaker 1:Keep getting that one? Why are the episodes so short? Why, why, why?
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Speaker 1:I'm already bored with our podcast. Welcome to Eat Watching with Dan and Tony. I am Dan, I am Tony. On this show we watch a movie. Usually we watch the movie that we've not spoiled.
Speaker 2:Yeah, usually we say what movie we're going to watch and then we do it, unless Dan comes up and comes up with a new plan midweek.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you got to call an audible.
Speaker 2:We got people here thinking we're going to talk about Babylon AD and they're going to be like why are they talking about Adam Sandler today? I'm so confused.
Speaker 1:Shannon was like what movie were you going to do? And I was like I have no idea.
Speaker 2:I have no recollection at this point. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:I have to say before we get into it, I do keep on running across movies and I'm like I think I watched that.
Speaker 2:I think I watched it for the show I think I'm pretty sure I I have to. I have a list of all the movies and I check it constantly because I'm like we've definitely done this movie right and sometimes we haven't.
Speaker 1:Sometimes Sometimes we have this week called an audible for something brand new, because it's always best to do things that are brand new. Topical People love that. The number one movie on Netflix at the moment.
Speaker 2:Continues to be number one, it's.
Speaker 1:Adam Sandler is Back with Happy Gilmore 2, 20, 25 hour and 57 minutes. Everyone that I read about this movie was very happy that it was an hour and 57 minutes long.
Speaker 2:Oh really, no, none of them were. They were all very angry.
Speaker 1:They were like why is this an hour and 57 minutes long? This should be an hour and a half. What is happening to the world?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean to be fair, it probably was 15 minutes short if you cut out all the footage from the first one. So script wise it was probably right on the money. And then editing, they were just like we should probably add some stuff so people know what's going on, right, don't you think idiots?
Speaker 1:um, have we ever seen this in a movie before I?
Speaker 2:don't think this has ever been done in a movie in the history of movies, which I guess this is something you can say, you know, a thumbs up to them trying something new, at least to the extent you know, I'm sure to this egregious nature. We've never seen anything like this.
Speaker 1:Yes, I agree. So basically, the setup is so this is based on a movie from how many years ago? 20 years ago, 25 years?
Speaker 2:it's gotta be more than more than that, because it's 90s.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, 96 right, 96, yeah, so 29, 29 years ago almost 30 years a lot of the people and you know adam sadler, much, much younger than so a lot of people from that movie have died. Yes, and so what they'll do is they'll. I don't know if it's the real people's children. It might be the real people's children in some cases.
Speaker 1:They bring them in to do similar bits to bits that happened in the first movie. But to make sure we understand what we're referencing, we show kind of truncated clips of the movie from the original Happy Gilmore movie to sort of go like you see, this is what we're talking about and that is a mistake. That's a mistake. I don't know.
Speaker 2:That was a bad choice. Let me tell you why choice. Let me tell you why because, in general, you're just telling your audience that you think they're so dumb now that they won't a get a joke if they don't know the original joke which is, by the way that just means it's not a good joke. Right, like we can all agree, if I need to know the original joke, that means this joke isn't good, and I will argue that I think the jokes are good. I do like this, so first hold on. I got a lot to say about this for me. I love this movie. This movie is an 8 out of 10 for me. My only complaint about this movie is the flashbacks, and I think it is a. It is a tragedy, tragedy, travesty it's a tragedy wow I can't.
Speaker 1:I can't wait to dig into this 8.5 after this movie.
Speaker 2:I know, I'm excited. I'm excited to talk about it because I have read so many things where I'm like that's a bad take, that's a bad take, you're an idiot. So I'm going to do a lot of name calling, especially to a guy named Shane Vassar, a writer at Collider who has the worst period ever. Period should be fired and never printed again Anyhow. But it just assumes that your audience is too dumb to understand your joke, that you have to force feed them the original, and that's a weird choice. That'll never be a good idea.
Speaker 1:Well as someone who's not seen Happy Gilmore 1.
Speaker 2:Time out.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry you've never seen Happy.
Speaker 2:Gilmore 1. Time out. I'm sorry, you've never seen Happy Gilmore.
Speaker 1:Why would I have seen Happy Gilmore?
Speaker 2:Because Happy Gilmore is a genuinely good movie. This, in my opinion, this is a good sequel.
Speaker 1:No you said it was an 8.5. You still call this an 8.5? 100%.
Speaker 2:Because nostalgia plays a part in the sequel right.
Speaker 1:No, but the original Happy.
Speaker 2:Gilmore is a 10 out of 10 film. It's a perfect comedy film. You should watch it. You should watch it now that you've seen the second one. Why? But I am very curious, because it's really good, Dan. It's really really good. If you have ever liked Adam Sandler, that is peak Sandler.
Speaker 1:I liked him in the 27, 50 First Dates. I think that's the only one 50 First. Dates great movie I think that's the only one of his movies I've seen.
Speaker 2:So do you not enjoy him when we're getting off topic? But when he does his like man boy shtick, you're not as into that.
Speaker 1:I saw the Waterboy.
Speaker 2:I hate the Waterboy.
Speaker 1:I was I hate that we should do that for this podcast.
Speaker 2:I hate that movie. Everyone's wrong about that movie seemed like hubie halloween.
Speaker 1:You know which we did a few years ago, same character, same character is kind of playing this man, but this, this character, there was no character. He didn't play a character.
Speaker 2:There's no character no, okay, uh, wrong you are you are dead wrong on that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, but that's okay.
Speaker 2:That's okay, but I'm very interested. This excites me that you've never seen the original, because I am curious on how you felt about the flashbacks then.
Speaker 1:I mean I won't say they didn't make any sense, they didn't make the jokes funny.
Speaker 2:They don't enhance it, right? No, even if you've never seen it, it doesn't enhance it. So I don't understand who it's for.
Speaker 1:Well, because the jokes Like I don't yeah the jokes. Those are for me, someone who hasn't seen it.
Speaker 2:But are they?
Speaker 1:No, I mean, that's what they were thinking. These jokes we have to let people know because the jokes just if you don't have some nostalgia for it, that's what it was. I'm sure they showed it to someone who has no nostalgia for this movie, which is me, and I was just like, well, these jokes aren't funny because they're callbacks to a movie that was made 29 years ago. That's stupid.
Speaker 2:Why are you making? Why don't you just make jokes? They do. I think that they do. A good balance of both and that's why but this is from someone who loves the original right is that you have half the movie is just fan service, like unabashed, no apologies, fan service, and then the other half is all golf jokes and that's a great balance. For me, that's a lovely little balance.
Speaker 1:The stuff with the real golfers was the strongest stuff in the movie by a long, by a lot.
Speaker 2:Scotty Scheffler. He was funny, john Daly. I hate John Daly as a person. He is so funny in this movie.
Speaker 1:He had the only joke that I laughed at in the whole movie.
Speaker 2:Hmm, hmm, which one was it Dan?
Speaker 1:I'll tell you when I get to it.
Speaker 2:John Daly was funny, he only laughed once in this movie.
Speaker 1:Oh God, yes.
Speaker 2:No, this movie I was rolling on the floor, watched it twice this week Humorless. I consider this movie humorless. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1:Shooter was the only character I think I liked of the character Shooter you were just like okay, he's so wonderful. You were like oh man, if they'd have written him a good movie, this could have been really interesting. Oh, he's great. He's great. Everything is thrown away. Everything is thrown away, everything is thrown away. We establish a character, then we just throw him away. Then we bring in a new character.
Speaker 2:We bring in a Well, there's a good, there's a good chance that that character, or a semblance of that character, has already been established 30 years ago, and so in your mind it's been thrown away, but in our minds of people that have already seen it, it's like miss you, buddy RIP.
Speaker 1:No, but I mean we'll have something that we've set up in this movie and then we'll just never see them again. The blonde kid that was his caddy or something that he choked At a certain point. We're just like, yeah, he's not in the movie.
Speaker 2:Well, he is in the movie for a little bit movie. Well, he is in the movie for a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's in the movie for a little bit. If you're gonna put somebody in for one joke, put them in for the one joke and then have them leave, but don't put them in.
Speaker 2:But you're, you're missing the joke is that. So that kid, not the guy that's in the movie, the guy in the movie will zalatoris, real golfer, who apparently has agreed to pretend to be the kid from the first one who was the caddy, and it's, oh, it's a hilarious, just like little nod to the first one. But also will Zella Torres down for some shit, love it. I have not forgiven you for choking me out, you, son of a bitch, great stuff.
Speaker 1:Wait, so you're saying that the person that was in the first movie became a golfer, but then isn't in this movie?
Speaker 2:no, no, no. So the kid from the first one. We don't know who he is. He's, he's not a real actor. I mean, that's probably really rude. They're pretending that will. Zelotaurus, current golfer, real life golfer. Was the kid that from the first one? So the oh, that guy was a real golfer he's a real golfer. He's will zellator. He's a great golfer, like really big on the pj2 or see Tony hold on a second.
Speaker 1:Yes, you're the person who watched the movie, the Avengers movie, where Spider-Man turns to dust and then you said I couldn't get emotional about this because I know he has a contract and he's going to come back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's stupid.
Speaker 1:But you also like that you have to recognize a person being a real golfer to think that the joke is a good joke. How does it put you that?
Speaker 2:stupid. This is actually really interesting, so I took so one. I took a Hal Rudnick, who is part of Screen Junkies now I think he was then too. Anyhow, I did a sketch class with him and we came to blows.
Speaker 1:That's not true. I'm being dramatic. Let me guess what it's about Him being right and you being wrong. Okay, got it 100%, 80%.
Speaker 2:We were in sketch class and we were writing a parody. That was the sketch was a parody sketch and I wrote a very, very specific uh arrow from the cw parody and like two people in the class got it and thought it was really funny and the rest were like we don't know, we don't understand any of these jokes. And he was like listen, guy, you can't.
Speaker 2:You have to write a parody that everyone can access, like that's what makes a good joke, right, exactly, and I was like how, while I understand that if I'm specifically writing for a group of people, then I can do whatever the fuck I want is basically the conversation we had and he was like you're never going to work in this town If you take that attitude and he was dead right, I'm not working. However, it comes back to this moment where the majority of these jokes are written for a very specific subset of people who are a golf fans currently and then, but also love the first movie and like I understand that that is probably not the right way to do it, but I feel like you know the people that get it really enjoy it, you know.
Speaker 1:Well, the thing I've noticed is I read lots of reviews of this movie and most of the ones that are positive for this movie are bots, and most of the ones that are negative for this movie are people that enjoyed the first movie yeah, because you have to have enjoyed the first movie, because this movie doesn't stand on its own you don't hear what I just said.
Speaker 2:I said most of the people that didn't like this movie.
Speaker 1:Liked the first movie, and the people that liked the movie were bots and here's what I will tell you about the reason why they're.
Speaker 2:It's okay that they don't like it, but the reason why they're wrong is because they've grown up because they've grown up, so I I also read a bunch of interviews and they're like this is this movie's dumb and it's not as good as the original.
Speaker 2:It's like it's not as good as the original, of course, but it's the exact same humor as the original, and the thing that's changed is you you're looking at it in a 2025 lens. Not you, dan, but the people that are saying that are looking at it in a lens in 2025.
Speaker 1:This movie was not written for 2025. So wait a second. So what you're saying is the only people that are going to enjoy this movie are people that still are 13 years old in their mind and also have a wide array of knowledge and care about current golfing.
Speaker 2:Correct. And you know why? Because that's Adam Sandler.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, he wrote this. He made this movie for you and him and no one else Correct. So this poor, whoever it is, this reviewer at Collider that you think should be fired is actually and this goes back to the whole Rudnick point is you only care about a movie like this because it's made for you? Correct as opposed to a smart reviewer who's going to say this movie is trash.
Speaker 2:Incorrect he's right the reason why. Here's why I'm going to call him out. He calls it lazy, it is lazy. He says that it is not lazy, and that's the.
Speaker 1:So lazy, that's what everybody gets wrong. So lazy it, and that's what everybody gets wrong.
Speaker 2:So lazy it's not, but here's, here's why, because, listen everyone you're saying it's lazy because it relies on the first one.
Speaker 1:Nope, Nope, nope, nope, nope, that's not why it's lazy.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about Shane Vassar, yeah, who calls it lazy because it relies on the first one and recycles recycles bits from the first one. This movie is painstakingly thought over to be not just a recreation of the first one and everything we loved at the first one, but also to be like hey, we know, we know this movie isn't happy Gilmore, but we are going to share in all of our love together. It's a love letter to the first movie, written by the same people that wrote the first movie. Is that weird? Is that masturbatory? Sure, but it's not lazy. Like it's, it is frame by frame. This movie has thought about its predecessor and what it means to fans.
Speaker 1:That's what I'll say. Yeah, but I see, I think that's that. That goes back to the whole the whole thing with what happened to batman. Right, batman was this, was this thing all the everybody grew up with. Batman, right, you have batman, you have the 60s tv show, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then you get to the stupid, you know, descending into the pit. All that Christopher Nolan shit. I hated that stuff because it was stupid, it didn't make any sense. But all yous loved it because it's like where are you now in my life, man, batman's got to be real to me in my life, man, batman's gotta be real to me, and that's fine. I'm fine with Batman being real. My problem is Batman is stupid and those movies are stupid because they're stupid. I'm Bane, I'm gonna drive the missiles around, I'm gonna trick all the police into going into the sewer. I'm gonna lock the doors. Lock the sewer door. What is this?
Speaker 2:It will be very painful for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But Heath Ledger Hold on.
Speaker 1:He was great, he was the best part of it, he was the one good thing that came out of all those two movies.
Speaker 2:Amen to that.
Speaker 1:And What's-Her-Name dressed as Catwoman? Yeah, 10 out of 10.
Speaker 2:Oh and Hathaway, that's right. In the third one, I haven't seen Dark Knight Falls in a long time. Yeah, you're right about that.
Speaker 1:You're right about that, my friend. She may not have been a great Catwoman, but she was very attractive as Catwoman.
Speaker 2:Are you going to tell me Halle Berry was a good Catwoman? Jeez, louise, we did that movie right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we did that movie, kevin Spacey was the bad guy. I think right. Wasn't Kevin Spacey the bad guy?
Speaker 2:Is that right? I don't. I think he was the bad guy. I don't remember.
Speaker 1:Dan, I'm lost. I think that might have been the only Kevin Spacey movie we did. I think it was that one. Okay, so what you're saying is if you have retained your 13-year-old comedy sense and never grown up with how you look at comedy, even though you can't deal with a poop or a fart joke, figure that out.
Speaker 2:It's not, I can't deal with it.
Speaker 1:I just don't find them very funny. Okay, this is what I said to my. So I showed my wife I was talking to her about Adam Sandler's wife and how and what was going on with her face, and I showed it to her and I could play the tape of what she said. She dealt with it. I thought it was the terrible blue eyeshadow was the problem. She was like no, it was her entire face and whatever plastic surgery. She said she was not happy with those plastic surgeries and then I said so. Then you know, okay, that was funny. She did her bit. Her bit was very, very funny.
Speaker 2:We get her to do it.
Speaker 1:She'd come in and she'd be very funny about it. Did her bit. Her bit was very, very funny. We get her to do it. She'd come in and she'd be very funny about it. So, you know, I was like I had, I had a flash and I was like you know what? There was no profanity in this movie, correct? She's like yeah, there was adam sandler's wife's face. That's what she said. That was her joke.
Speaker 2:So there you go, say that's pretty fast.
Speaker 1:I rest my case Um mean, but funny. What we're going to do is, when we get to it, we're going to talk about a scene, a scene that could have been, in my opinion, a great scene.
Speaker 2:And you know what?
Speaker 1:you know what the scene was? It was lazy, lazy and stupid.
Speaker 2:Okay, I can't wait to talk about it.
Speaker 1:Lazy and they didn't go anywhere. It's the scene in the graveyard where Shooter and Happy Gilmore make up.
Speaker 2:Oh God, I love that scene. It's perfect, Tony. You would have loved that scene even more if it was good. It is good. Are you kidding me? Great stuff, so many callbacks.
Speaker 1:Dan, there we go again. So many callbacks.
Speaker 2:The attention to detail to the original is astounding. But that's not a movie.
Speaker 1:I'm not arguing that. Okay, so it's a bad movie, got it.
Speaker 2:I said, the movie doesn't stand on its own. It's a great sequel. I think those are two different things.
Speaker 1:But that's the thing. You can watch Aliens and not have seen Alien. It's a fucking great movie.
Speaker 2:Sure, you just pick one of the greatest sequels of all time. Next you're going to pick Terminator 2, Judgment Day Okay, yeah, great. Next you're going to pick Terminator 2 Judgment Day.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, great they're both great movies.
Speaker 2:This isn't made to be a great movie. It's made to be a love letter To Happy Gilmore. That's it. That's the whole thing. It's out on Netflix. Guys, we're taking it way too seriously.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? We're taking it way too. We're taking movie. Wow, on our podcast, where we talk about movies for two hours, we're taking movies too seriously.
Speaker 2:We're going to talk a long time today too.
Speaker 1:I mean Adam Sandler's lazy right. What you're saying is he made a movie that has callbacks to this other movie, and I guess you're right. That is who Adam Sandler has become. He's like it's enough.
Speaker 2:Oh, 100%. All he wants to do and this is me speaking. This is not Adam speaking, right, he just wants to have fun with his friends. That's always been his thing, right? So Naomi and I were actually talking last night or this morning one of the two and she was like it's interesting that everybody is in an Adam Sandler movie. All of his friends do bit parts.
Speaker 1:Where was David Spade?
Speaker 2:I don't know if they're still friends. Man David Spade's doing his own podcast now you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, David Spade's funny. David Spade is funny.
Speaker 2:David Spade's very funny. He's very funny and he I mean they did. They just did a movie together not too long ago, right. One of the Netflix ones was him and Spade.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, we should watch that one.
Speaker 2:Something about a high school reunion or something I don't know. Anyhow, what's interesting is that he doesn't do anyone else's films. He doesn't do bit parts in other films. Everyone does bit parts in his films and it's because he just doesn't I don't think he gives a shit, right, he? And it's because he just doesn't. I don't think he gives a shit, right. He's like, yeah, give me money and I'll do something that's fun and we can hang out and play golf for a few weeks and then I'm going to move on with my life. You know, that's who he is right, like he's not trying to. And then he makes uncut gems, right. So he's got two sides, right.
Speaker 1:He's got two sides to him Well, that's and that's the whole thing is like when he's doing his work, he doesn't care that much, he cares, he does care.
Speaker 2:He cares so much in this movie, and this is what this is, what this is. What I'm telling you is that to think that he doesn't care is ridiculous, because every single frame of this movie is thought over and thought about. The first movie, it's the. It is painstaking detail. Okay, like you want to see a bad legacy sequel, we're gonna do it next time. I already picked it out. We're gonna do it. Not a legacy sequel, sorry, bad comedy sequel. That's what I meant to say. This is a legacy sequel. 30 later.
Speaker 1:We start rock and roll music. My name is Happy Gilmore. I wrote some other words there. I can't read them. Oh, I wanted to be a hockey player, but he wasn't good at being a hockey player, and so instead he became a golfer. Okay, Essentially.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the story of the first movie. Yeah.
Speaker 1:He wins the 98 US Open by a bird shitting onto the ball. He wins the 98 US Open by a bird shitting onto the ball, and then it goes into the hole. Okay, he has five kids. Four of them are hockey boys who are violent like video games, and one of them's a girl and she wants to be a ballet dancer.
Speaker 2:Did you find these hockey kids funny? Not particularly, but I found it funny that the oldest one was jacked as shit. How? Why is? Why is one of adam sandler's sons super, super jacked? Doesn't make any sense to me. Was that some sort of wish? Fulfillment there, and then none of them look like they could be his kids none of them look even close to either of them, like him and Julie Bowen, that they would not produce this offspring whatsoever.
Speaker 1:Actually, you're right. You're right, the smaller blonde one could have come from Julie Bowen, that's a good point.
Speaker 2:That's good Barely in the movie.
Speaker 1:But yeah, yeah, yeah, we had it all. He then kills his wife while golfing.
Speaker 2:So good.
Speaker 1:Then he becomes an alcoholic.
Speaker 2:Oh wait, you're not going to talk about it.
Speaker 2:Okay, we have to talk about it because this is like the most controversial thing out there right now. Why Everyone's mad about so spoilers? Right, this is a big spoiler If you haven't seen the movie big spoiler. Julie Bowen dies and everyone's upset, everyone's mad, everyone thinks it was a bad choice. It's a perfect choice, it's brilliant. So Dan won't understand this.
Speaker 2:This is a callback to the first movie as well. Right, the opening credits is he's given his story in the first movie blah blah, my dad loves hockey. I love hockey. Him and his dad are at a hockey game. Wayward puck slap shot kills his dad at a hockey game, changes the trajectory of his entire life and he dedicates his life to hockey until golf saves him. Uh, he also kills his instructor in the first movie, chubbs um, and there's a scene between him and julie bowen in the first movie where he, after this happens, he's talking to her. He's like everyone I love, everyone that gets close to me dies. You should run away. They foreshadowed her death 30 years ago by accident. It unbelievable. And then they kill her the same way that his dad dies, and it's brilliant. It's a lovely little nod to the first movie and also gives him the exact same trajectory as the first movie, where that changes the course of his life, until golf saves him.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow. So what you're saying is a lot of character points happen in his life and he expects you to have seen this other movie and remembered all of these things and then put it all together. So really what they should do is they should make a four-hour movie called Happy Gilmore Chronicles where we just watch these two movies. They kind of did.
Speaker 2:See, that's why Until yesterday, happy Gilmore 1 was on Netflix, dan, and now you missed it. For some reason, it left today. I don't know why it would leave today, while this is still the number one movie on Netflix. That's bad marketing.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, adam Sandler probably made them do that.
Speaker 2:Oh, you think, oh, so they wouldn't watch the old one, they'd only watch the new one. Oh, okay, no, I see what you're saying yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah, that's why he did it.
Speaker 1:Um no, that's, that's smart. You're right, if I was a screenwriter and I was if I was trying to like dig into this character, since I have this whole thing where I, I, I. I have no problem with cutting in scenes from old movies, spending lots of time having him talk about everything, nothing happening. Let me just talk about what's happening. Let's not have it happen, let's just talk about it happening.
Speaker 1:So we don't have to tread any kind of emotions. No, emotions push the emotions away from a movie, because emotions you know what emotions do in a movie they make you invest in the movie. Because adam sandler doesn't want anyone investing in his movies, heaven forbid I disagree. I cried I'm sure you did I cried in this movie. You're like I remember something that happened in the first movie.
Speaker 2:Now I'm getting emotional 100 because, again, this movie is a perfect love letter to the first movie and they're a package deal, the thing I love. Watch the second without the first one.
Speaker 1:No one says. No one has said this in anything I've read. You're the only one, and now you're like 100.
Speaker 2:You're mounting the defense for it being a love letter I asked because it is, and the people that don't think it is are either not remembering the first one or, you know, they're too stupid Because it is. Those are perfect parallels, and this is like the biggest argument people are upset about.
Speaker 2:I know you get it because you're not an idiot. I understand these people, Dan. I think they're idiots. No, these people that are like oh, I love Happy Gilmore One, it's like you don't have to love the sequel. They're like oh, I love Happy Gilmore One, it's like you don't have to love the sequel, that's okay, you don't have to enjoy it.
Speaker 1:But to pretend that it isn't the same movie as the first one is categorically false. Had written this movie, you could have then added stuff in there to make it not be a chore, or not having had to have seen that first movie for this to be a decent movie, because as a standalone object this is a bad movie.
Speaker 2:I agree. I agree 100%. We agree on that 100%. I just disagree that it needs to be.
Speaker 1:But you see, tony, that's the thing is. That's why it's lazy, it's because it so easily could have encompassed this. He could. He's doing all this thing. He could have said my dad died from a hockey puck, my trainer died from a hockey puck, and then he says that I always knew anyone getting close to me would die, and now she was dead. And then he becomes an. I always knew anyone getting close to me would die, and now she was dead. And then he becomes an alcoholic.
Speaker 2:Hilarious that was hilarious.
Speaker 1:You think it was hilarious that he was an alcoholic.
Speaker 2:Only because of the way they do it, because it's Sandler and they do it in a silly way, like the secret booze in all of the objects Hilarious, by the way, golf ball would never work. That golf ball wouldn't fly. Great stuff. 10 out of 10. Yeah, I love it. I think it's great. I mean because you gotta. You also have to remember that this character is what's the word he's like? Like a. It's not a rage. Oh, you're saying he has anger issues he doesn't. Yes, there you go.
Speaker 1:He never has in this entire.
Speaker 2:Not in this movie. They say he has In the first movie.
Speaker 1:They say he has, but they never play it.
Speaker 2:In the first movie he does and she changes him. So then when she dies he gets another affliction, and then he has to overcome that affliction.
Speaker 1:It's all a journey. He doesn't overcome it. Someone just tells him, stop doing that and he's like, okay, stop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like cool, that's my daughter, because that's his real life daughter.
Speaker 1:So he's got bills. They take his car. He gets sued, he loses. He's living bills they take his car he gets sued, he loses. He's living at grandma's house. He lives with his daughter. He works in a grocery store. He's been a drunk for well. I guess he's been a drunk for like 30 years. I guess that doesn't take any toll on his life. It's been a while Been a while he meets up with this weird guy, Frank Manatee, who is starting the Maxi Golf League, which is a different golf league. Who is this?
Speaker 2:I don't know, he's not very good. Am I crazy?
Speaker 1:He's in this movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, but here's the way I look at it, that's right.
Speaker 1:I thought he was the director.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't know. I honestly don't know.
Speaker 1:I read somewhere that the director I don't know he might be the director.
Speaker 2:Well, the director from the first one plays the golf tour director in the movie, so he's in it, the guy from the first one. I don't know, I thought this guy was terrible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's terrible.
Speaker 2:I don't understand how he is the main villain. I was like he has to be somebody, but I guess we don't know. He was my least favorite part of the movie and he's in it a bunch.
Speaker 1:He's probably like a friend of Adam's or something Stupid I guess I don't know who isn't. So he's starting a new golf league, and so Adam's like I'm not doing that, turn off the cameras. I throw you in the lobster tank, whatever.
Speaker 2:That wasn't funny and also that's his rage problem. Dan, you said he didn't have rage. That's his rage. Let me explain it to you again here. So he is not allowed to beat people up. So he's turning off the security cameras. He makes that call and she does it immediately, which means this is not the first time that he's done this. This is not the last time that he's going to do it. He's got a rage problem. Continue yeah.
Speaker 1:Great. His daughter, who has some name, starts with a V.
Speaker 2:All of his ladies have V names. This is actually something Screen Junkies came up. We watched the whatever they call the trailers yeah, the trailer show for the original and every leading lady he's had has a V name. I don't know what it means, but it's weird. And she has a V name as well.
Speaker 1:She's a ballet dancer. Adam Sandler's real life wife is her dance teacher. Luckily she's only in about two scenes. Thankfully we have to look at her face a little bit and we set up that she needs to go to Paris to go to school. It's $75,000 a year, which is $300,000, which somehow you have to pay all at once in the lump sum.
Speaker 2:That was confusing, right? Explain that to me. It doesn't make a lot of sense. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I've never been to Paris, wouldn't know, I wouldn't know, don't think it's a Paris thing, it's about school.
Speaker 2:I think it's a French thing. They pay up front and then you get to do it for four years. I have no idea, Dan. They're just trying to get the stakes similar to the first movie.
Speaker 1:What are the stakes of the? What have we set up as the stakes of the movie?
Speaker 2:The exact same stakes as the first movie.
Speaker 1:Which is what. What was in the first movie?
Speaker 2:Money. He needs money, so he needs money To pay for something for his family.
Speaker 1:What did he need to pay for in the first movie?
Speaker 2:So the house that he loses that's how the first movie starts is his grandma's losing that house, and so he needs she hasn't paid back taxes in 30, 40 years or something. She owes like $179,000, something like that in back taxes. Okay.
Speaker 1:So what is that? It's money, right? Is that what that is that money? That is correct yeah, so the whole movie is predicated on. I need to make money, but you can't change that.
Speaker 2:That's what the first one's on. I mean it's okay that that's not a good premise for a movie. We, that's what the first one's on. I mean it's okay that that's not a good premise for a movie. We all know that. But you can't change the premise. That's the first one. They're doing the exact same thing. Oh okay, and it's for someone that he loves his daughter and we get a great joke out of it.
Speaker 1:What was the great?
Speaker 2:joke. She says the school Paris ballet. And he's like well, where's that? Is that around here? That's a great joke, Laughed very hard at.
Speaker 1:it Gets me every time Finds me something.
Speaker 2:It's great. It's a very dad joke Classic.
Speaker 1:John Daly lives in the garage, but they refer to him as Uncle John Daly. If you were smart, you wouldn't have ever put that uncle in there, no, Super.
Speaker 2:If you were smart, you wouldn't have ever put that uncle in there. No, super weird. If you start thinking about that too much, it plays, it gets weird. It gets real weird, real quick.
Speaker 1:I understand why you call him Uncle John Daly, because that's what you do when you have somebody that's around a lot.
Speaker 2:Sure a house guest and I get that but you could have.
Speaker 1:There are so many more better jokes you could have made about John Daly's living in the garage.
Speaker 2:Living in the garage yeah. No, it shouldn't. It's weird. It was never. It's never commented on in the movie. Really it's I don't know. It's weird.
Speaker 1:And I kind of like that. But I also, you know we kind of were doing some stuff with him. You know we kind of were doing some stuff with him at a certain point. All he does is squirt hand sanitizer as his alcohol and they do it like five times and you're like, okay, you've taken your good character and you've just thrown it in the trash. Okay.
Speaker 2:No, no, because then you get a great Buscemi bit where he takes out the mouthwash.
Speaker 1:Great stuff, very funny. You get a great buscemi bit where he takes out the, the mouthwash great stuff, very funny.
Speaker 2:then buscemi's the neighbor across the street and yeah, yeah, I don't know, I don't know about that one, that's just. Uh, I mean again great joke later on, but I think they just wanted buscemi in the movie, you know yeah, then he has a dream about his dead mom.
Speaker 1:Wait, hold on.
Speaker 2:You missed the best joke of the movie. Dan did john daly. What's john daly watching on tv?
Speaker 1:like love island or something stupid yeah, love island, come on.
Speaker 2:That was the best part of the movie for me. How is that?
Speaker 1:loved it how okay, you're gonna explain that. Explain that joke to me that he's watching love island. What, how is that? It's not Love Island, how is?
Speaker 2:that a joke? That's not a joke. That's what everybody should be doing. That's what I'll tell you right now. Everybody should be watching Love Island.
Speaker 1:You just said it was the best joke in the movie.
Speaker 2:Nobody in the history of movies has ever mentioned Love Island in a movie, and it's just great that he's watching, because I mean, he's what? 60? Maybe more? I don't know how old he is, but he's an old guy.
Speaker 1:He's too old to watch Love Island. I don't understand.
Speaker 2:It's a bunch of 20-somethings running around having sex with each other on an island. Dan, it's weird that I watch it, but I do. What are you talking about? And the show's about? You think the demo, the demographics of the people that watch love island, is just like young people? Oh yeah, I know they're very um, what's that? What's the word? Where you like, where the fans guard it what's that called fan gardener?
Speaker 2:sure, yeah, there's like a word for it, but they're very um, if you they, they are very mean to anyone outside of their 20s that watches the show. What are you talking about? The fan base, dan, you're not in the zeitgeist of Love Island, which you should be the fans.
Speaker 1:Stop older people from watching Love Island.
Speaker 2:Yes and they ridicule people and they're basically like you can't watch a show, you're too old, you don't get it yeah.
Speaker 1:No, it's a whole thing. Why this? Why did they do a joke about that in this movie? Fan base is rabid. They should have done a joke about that.
Speaker 2:That might have been funny, but you wouldn't have liked it because you wouldn't have got it, because you're not on the inside, dan, you can't have it both ways. You can't be mad if there's inside jokes and then mad if there's not inside jokes okay, we just, we just, we just passed the best joke in the movie. That's good to know I laughed so hard Best joke in the movie. I lied, it's the second best joke. Scotty Scheffler has the best joke in the movie.
Speaker 1:In the second half of the movie he has pretty much the only jokes.
Speaker 2:All of the jokes. Pretty much has all the jokes. It's actually pretty remarkable and he can do it. That's what I was surprised about.
Speaker 1:What are we having for dinner? It's actually pretty remarkable and he can do it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like that's what I was surprised about. What are we having for dinner? It's good job. That's my favorite Spoiler alert, that's my favorite joke of the movie and it's in the credits. Yes, it's so good.
Speaker 1:And that's what I have to say about this movie is, unless you're invested in it and you're like seeing all the great parallels and all that, it's yes, um, oh, I believe that 100. He has a dream about the dead mom. She's like hot, holding beers and watering but then he's like from the first one then oh, that happened in the first one, okay there you go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's his, so he goes to his happy place it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter, no one cares. No matter, no one cares.
Speaker 2:No one cares. You're wrong, you're wrong.
Speaker 1:People care. I'll assume anything they show is just from the first movie.
Speaker 2:You should. You should assume that, yeah, you should absolutely assume that.
Speaker 1:I mean it's fine. And so then, like a more mature version of her, walks up and says you got to get your life together. You're not a hockey player, you're a golfer, and there it is Okay there it is.
Speaker 1:He digs out some clubs because his dead wife's ghost told him to get to work. He practices in the backyard. John Daly is watching. I wrote start at the bottom. I don't know what that means. He goes to the local club and we get to meet some comedy legends in Margaret Crowley, eric Andre and one of the Lonely Island guys. Yeah, you weren't listening to what I said. It's one of the Please Don't Destroy guys. It's not one of the Lonely Island guys. Those are.
Speaker 2:Oh, I was not actually paying attention. That's a funny joke. That's a good bit. I'm sorry I missed it. I'm just thinking about how much I hate.
Speaker 1:The non-jokes that happen in this movie.
Speaker 2:So talk about how funny.
Speaker 1:this whole scene is where Margaret Qualley just dances and Eric Andre just dances and then the old Lonely Island guy, or the Just Please Don't Destroy guy, is really funny, did you?
Speaker 2:notice any of the other he has the only joke.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm sure he does, because I think they're all in this movie. I know at least two. Yeah, the other two are?
Speaker 2:I don't think the is the redhead in this movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah for sure, he he he, I saw in like where they're playing golf and there's guys that have something written on them and they turn around.
Speaker 2:Oh gotcha. Okay Red hair guys in there and I think wasn't one of those. I think the short guy's in there too. I got you. Yeah, I wasn't. Yeah, I missed that, but he has the only joke in this whole montage scene which is um, after what's her name? Margaret?
Speaker 1:margaret, quali yeah?
Speaker 2:golfs and then they dance and her and andre have like a handshake type of dance thing and he just goes. I just I wish I was involved in that. It just moves on. That was very funny, um, but I I don't um find this movie funny I don't understand I don't understand how she's a thing dan this is.
Speaker 1:This is concerning she was in the the source.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I know and she's gonna be in that stupid movie that we're gonna watch later. Right, what is that, honey?
Speaker 1:don't, or whatever I saw a thing where it was like a grid of, like you know, all the movies coming up. Which are you most excited about? And everyone is that one not everyone, but I mean like, if people are picking two and three, they're picking. They're always, almost always, picking that one. And I was like, well, man, I, I don't believe you people all saw the first one, but maybe you, but maybe they ironed it out, maybe they're going to iron it out.
Speaker 2:Well, we're going to find out when it comes out, because we're definitely watching it, dan.
Speaker 1:Now, do you hate Aubrey Plaza?
Speaker 2:Do I hate her?
Speaker 1:I don't know if I hate her. Have you ever liked her in anything?
Speaker 2:No, I have not.
Speaker 1:I don't hate her, I don't actively hate her my point is you've never enjoyed her in anything.
Speaker 2:Correct. Yes, that is correct.
Speaker 1:I'm sure you enjoyed her back in Parks and Rec.
Speaker 2:Nope, don't like that show. Oh, other than Ron. Yeah, ron Swanson is a legend, but I don't find that show very funny.
Speaker 1:It's all right, we do a whole thing. He breaks a Coke machine. Actually, when he, when, when he did, he throw his club and it broke the Coke machine. I almost found that funny that was like very close to being funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no. So I there are. I thought we were just talking about those three. Here's why I love this scene, dan. Um. So there's, there's a uh, you're just going to hate me so much. There's a scene in the original where he's on tour and he's cursing at all of his bad shots and they bleep him out. So they keep bleeping all of his cursing and it's like a montage that there it doesn't really matter. But this is a callback to that scene where they, instead of bleeping him out on TV, they're cutting it before he does the cursing Very funny, great. Him out on TV. They're cutting it before he does the cursing Very funny, great callback. But the physical comedy of the first swing he does where he just eats shit on his face, that got me laughing pretty hard. Obviously not Adam Sandler, but I love a good bit of physical comedy and there's a couple. Even when he falls backwards into the sand trap also very funny.
Speaker 1:Those are kind of funny. He calls on the ghost of carl lewis or something to carl weathers call weathers.
Speaker 2:Maybe, maybe, I don't know, I wasn't actually.
Speaker 1:I don't know call him some ghost and then then he becomes good at golf again.
Speaker 2:Okay because that was. That was who taught him how to play golf in the original, who he ended up killing.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, so he just comes in, but he crashes the cart and gets arrested.
Speaker 2:That was pretty funny too. You didn't think that was funny, that was kind of funny.
Speaker 1:He just passed out because he's drunk Passed out.
Speaker 2:Then they crashed in the other one.
Speaker 1:I thought it was great he gets arrested and then we, so he's going to have to go to radical alcohol treatment. You're going to have to explain this part to me because there are going to be a lot of callbacks to mystery things. So now we meet Shooter McGavin, who's his enemy, who's been locked up, and then he's still angry at Hackney Gilmore. Okay, so he's going to at Hackey.
Speaker 2:Gilmore Okay.
Speaker 1:So he's going to be maybe a villain or something.
Speaker 2:He's great, by the way. I love him so much.
Speaker 1:He's the one person who is trying his best to elevate this into being a real movie. He tries.
Speaker 2:He would never not give 110% Yep you know.
Speaker 1:Adam Sandler giving about 40. He's giving 110.
Speaker 2:You're like well, if someone wrote a good movie we might have a good movie.
Speaker 1:We go to the AA meeting. His other sister, his other daughter, plays this person, this person and I guess that the daughter sacrificed having a bigger role in this movie and has just chosen to be in this role in the movie and then also has all these. They spent $9 on the fake tattoo budget and it is so frightfully embarrassing and you're just like you've. He's paying each of his daughters $2 million to be in this movie or more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's definitely good right.
Speaker 1:Will I say that they're terrible? No, were they terrible, tony?
Speaker 2:Yes, they were terrible, they were terrible. I'll say it right now I have no shame. Adam knows that too. They were terrible. I'll say it right now I have no shame.
Speaker 1:Adam knows that too. It's fine. He knows that his daughters are terrible.
Speaker 2:He has to. He's not an idiot. You know what I mean. He's on set, he's seen the movie. He has to know that they're not good, don't you think? But I will say the other daughter Is great at ballet, because I believe that's really her Doing the moves.
Speaker 1:Very talented. She can do some light moves For sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's great, Can't act.
Speaker 1:Okay, I do not believe he thinks that they're terrible actresses.
Speaker 2:You really don't think so. You don't, you're. You really don't think so Listen, you're probably right, Okay, let me see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the rose-colored glasses and all Tinted. If you were like Dan, we're going to do the close-up on your face, you are going to be shiny and disgusting looking and you're going to have the most hideous blue eyeshadow on. And then we do that and then you're like you're great, you look good, Very attractive Women are going to come on to you because of that. I would be like Tony, you're full of shit because I look like a bag of garbage. He does not think his wife looks like a bag of garbage when he does a close-up on her face.
Speaker 2:And he probably also thinks that he does not think his wife looks like a bag of garbage when he does a close-up on her face. That's true.
Speaker 1:He also thinks that his daughters are. Maybe he does such a shitty job at his movies so that they don't feel bad about what a shitty job they're doing at his movie.
Speaker 2:Okay, but we can all agree that Adam's 40% is 200% better than what they're doing, right. I mean, if we're just doing mathematics here, well, I mean You're doing right. I mean, if we're just doing mathematics here, well, I mean, you're probably right. I would hope that we you and I at least would have the wherewithal even if we loved somebody to be able to look at it slightly objectively and be like, well, you're not talented you know I'm a terrible person and we're both terrible people, terrible people.
Speaker 1:That's why we'll never make it in Hollywood. It's because you have to say to your daughter you were great, and then you have to somehow believe it.
Speaker 2:Not only you have to believe, but you have to convince other people.
Speaker 1:No, he doesn't have to convince anyone that they were great. That's true. He's Adam.
Speaker 2:Sandler, we would have to convince other people, but that would be very difficult.
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 2:I don't know. You're probably right, no, he?
Speaker 1:thinks they're very talented and he made them a movie. Right, the one girl had a. This is your great, big, happy, big bar mitzvah, and we will never do that movie. We're not allowed to do that movie.
Speaker 2:I don't even know if I want to. No, maybe I do now because you're so against it.
Speaker 1:No, that's a movie, that's tough.
Speaker 2:You know how, when your parents tell you not to do something, and you immediately want to do it. Real badly. That's what's happening now, dan. So, that's what we're doing next week. Everybody Something about a bat mitzvah.
Speaker 1:We are two white guys who should not be doing any. There's a lot of neighborhoods we do not drive our car into because, no, because I can't drive there, it is Jonah can't drive. Okay, let's talk about this AA movie.
Speaker 2:Real quickly though. So in my mind the way I'm going to choose to believe it is that he loves them so much and just wants to spend time with them. Yes, so he lets them be in the movie, even though he knows they're really bad, because he loves them so much. And then it makes me love him more, and then we're all happy and I forgive them for being bad, and that's how I'm gonna choose to believe it.
Speaker 1:Shanna's other big problem with him is that he he dresses like trash at like big events. 100 100.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, because he doesn't give a fuck. He just is himself. He's like, if I didn't care and I wore, what I'm wearing right now would be what I wear to red carpets. I respect it. You know what I mean. You get to a point where it's just like good for you. Dude, who gives a shit, who cares about the dog and pony show? Just go have fun, be yourself.
Speaker 1:See, that's the thing I think is interesting. You think that he's this guy who's figured it all out and who's loving his life and just makes these movies. He's like I don't care, See, I think it's the opposite. I think he cares so much that he has to act like he doesn't care because he's so afraid of getting hurt.
Speaker 1:And then when everyone shits on his movie and it's got 69%, he's just like yeah see, I already knew that and I didn't care. So there it is, I'm not caring, I don't care. I think it's all front. I don't buy any of it. Could be.
Speaker 2:I don't buy any of it. I don't know, I don't know. Him personally Could be. I'd say it's a 50-50 shot. You know what I mean. I believe either one.
Speaker 1:I think he's so horrendously wounded that he will not commit to his art. He'll commit to somebody else's art because he knows how important it is, but he won't commit to his own art.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't know this movie's pretty spot on.
Speaker 1:It feels pretty committed to the original. Okay, the AA meeting. Here comes Ben Stiller wearing a great makeup. See, that's why I don't Like. You have the worst tattoos on your daughter and Ben Stiller's makeup is literally a 10 out of 10.
Speaker 2:What if they're real? What if those are real tattoos and you're just making fun of them? I watched a video about it. Literally a 10 out of 10. What if they're real? What if those are real tattoos and you're just making fun of them?
Speaker 1:I watched a video about it. She gave up the bigger part and she had to go through putting on these tattoos. What was the other part?
Speaker 2:Oh, that she's the second Did it say?
Speaker 1:The other girl. The other daughter is the primary part of the movie.
Speaker 2:Oh, so she was supposed to be that one. Okay, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1:I don't know that she was supposed to be that one, but the one daughter got the large part, the better part, and so this was the secondary part, not to be rude, but it's because she's talented, she can do the dance thing, which is what they decided to write the movie around.
Speaker 2:Sorry, older sister, that isn't talented. Adam's going to come for me, he's going to show up at my house and then I'll be like do you know what, dan? You were right, he does care. And then he's going to murder me.
Speaker 1:At least M Night Shyamalan's daughter could pull off all that singing in that movie.
Speaker 2:Was she a pop star? No, but it didn't detract from the movie for me. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I was like, yeah, it's fine, I get it. But you see, I look at Adam Sandler's daughter and I'm like you know, I said this to Shannon I'm like you shouldn't be paying the $300,000 because she's probably going to wash out after a year. You know, because ballet is like very serious.
Speaker 2:You know you've got to be on top of the top. Very tough stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's cut. I mean they cut throat Oof.
Speaker 1:So Ben Stiller's the therapist and it's called Stop being an Alky or something, and then he makes some-. You didn't think that line was funny we don't say alcohol, we say alky Well we wrote that on the board, so I already knew the thing oh gotcha, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm like, why did we?
Speaker 1:write that on the board. That's the surprise.
Speaker 2:If that's the joke, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1:No, you're right about that I'd have been sitting, I'd have been standing there, I've been like, no, you gotta get rid of the board, lose the board yeah, you're 100, right, yeah, but they seem to think their audience is stupid.
Speaker 2:Let's keep that in mind. Oh well, you did like this movie, I.
Speaker 1:I love this movie and then the whole bit is that they have to wash his car. Okay so this is one of those callbacks You're going to have to work really hard to make this one work, Tony A lot of the callbacks I feel like work very naturally and this one's a little thin, but it is correct.
Speaker 2:So Hal H plays the nurse at the retirement home that Adam's grandma has to move into when they lose the house, and he is abusive and he makes the old women, um, do chores, basically, so he makes them knit sweaters that he can then sell. And then he makes them, um, like, do landscaping duty, like he. He makes them basically do labor around the grounds instead of just, you know, having a fun time. And he's, he screams and it's very abusive. So like this is. The joke is like he still does that, but just in a different venue.
Speaker 1:Um, if I was working on this movie and gave notes on this movie, I would say, well, why don't we do a thing at the end where he invokes this thing and it causes a problem, but instead we don't do any of that? Nah, he just sits on a couch and watches this happen, like, okay, well, that seems like a thing, Okay, oh, we're going to get to my joke.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm excited.
Speaker 1:I'm so excited. Then we do a whole thing about Maxie and we see all these influencers talking about it, which I believe none of them were funny and none of them were of interest. We're now at the 28-minute mark.
Speaker 2:No, there's one. I don't know who she is, the blonde girl but she gets to ask why is golf so boring, or something like that. And that's a funny joke, Because that's what people that don't like golf are always like. Golf is so boring, so just having someone ask that out is a great little joke for me. I laughed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 28 minute mark. They're in the living room. Adam's character is at the laptop at the desk, john Daly's on the couch and John Daly says what you doing on that contutor.
Speaker 2:Ah, contutor. Yeah, that is very funny.
Speaker 1:He said contutor. This was when the movie peaked for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, that's fair.
Speaker 1:He said contutor, the daughter is now pouring out alcohol and so she pours it out of a bunch of funny things. And then we've then John Daly. She's trying to pour it out of the hand sanitizer and then he starts. He tries to drink it and it's terrible because it's just hand sanitizer, but then for the rest of the movie he keeps squirting it into his mouth.
Speaker 2:And that is a running joke. It's a good running bit, it's very funny. Um, here's what, dan. This is the only time that I will tell you that. I slightly agree with you that adam's not giving 100 the reverse. After he squirts the hand sanitizer, john goes this is hand sanitizer. It cuts to Adam and he goes gotcha, but there's no emotion to it whatsoever. There's no, there's nothing to the gotcha. Now, if we were doing this for real, dan, that would have had a lot more oomph to it, and this is just a very small character moment. But Happy Gilmore, the character would have put more on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's all I'll say okay um, it's as close as I'm gonna get to a criticism today, dan so he's starting to.
Speaker 1:Now we're doing some montages of him getting ready, chasing our seat car there's a super hot girl. We're like, wow, there's a super hot girl. Where you're like, wow, there's a super hot girl, doesn't he have a family member? He can get to play that part. That's not hot. He just you know, over a few minutes he's chasing an RC car, because I'm sure he chased an RC car in the first one and got good at golf because of that.
Speaker 2:Nope, not at all. This is just like a weird bit that they decided to. I like the first one and got good at golf because of that. Nope, not at all. This is just like a weird bit that they decided to. I like the, uh, the, the second one of it? No, no, I like this when he almost attacks his own son. That's what I like, the bit when he can't catch it, so then he starts chasing the son instead. Uh, except for they cut too soon. So the original happy gilmore is all about like physical abuse, just just genuinely like there's a lot of fighting in it and they cut away before a lot of the fighting in this one.
Speaker 1:He gets busted at rehab for having a book on golf and has to paint the house. There's some ballet and then we do a whole John Lovitz thing where John Lovitz is golfing and Happy hits the ball and then John Lovitz says some stuff and then John Lovitz falls down. It was kind of funny, john.
Speaker 2:Lovitz is funny when he's hanging upside down and he's like, damn you happy kale bar. Funny, he's funny.
Speaker 1:Great Says goodbye to his stupid sons, he goes to the golf building and then we meet all the old golf guys. We got Jack Nicklaus in there, we got Chiichi Rodriguez. See, I know some golfers.
Speaker 2:No, I love that, I love all the old people. Makes sense.
Speaker 1:He has dinner with the golf guys and then we intercut that. That was like the one they let Shooter out. And then, as he's leaving, he like this little joker bit on the stairs yeah, no, like a frame for frame, like remake of joker coming down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, great, great stuff.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's, that's, that's a good bit, um, and then we have who's the football player that's running? She's the thing it's Christ Dan. Travis.
Speaker 2:Kelsey, he's dating Taylor Swift Dan.
Speaker 1:I knew he was a football player. I knew his name. I know I didn't write it down. So he's. We do all these weird bits, with one guy wanting blueberry something, and then Travis is being weird, and then there's this Hispanic guy, and then he gets fired, and then you automatically know that he's going to become the caddy.
Speaker 2:I don't understand any of that. Okay. So first of all, you don't know, bad bunny, is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 1:I figured that out at the end, that that must've been bad bunny, yeah, he was very funny in the Saturday Night Live sketch where he played yeah, have you seen that? Where they play the Latino mother?
Speaker 2:It's what's his name yes, the.
Speaker 1:Latino mother. Those sketches very, very funny. But I mean he's good in this movie. He's good, he doesn't do anything.
Speaker 2:Oh, come on, Do you want breadsticks? Great, that's a great bit that I could have used that 10 more times in the movie. Very funny.
Speaker 1:Just anybody has to say anything and you're just like that's being funny If you say something, funny yeah.
Speaker 2:Do you want breadsticks? Because it's just a stupid improv character that like okay, well, you're a waiter, but now you're doing this, and so he does waiter things in the new job. That's a very basic character, right there there it is.
Speaker 1:So basically, he's going to get back into golf. He can finish in the top five, he can make all the money he needs, the guy. Okay, now we do this whole, so we're at the golf thing, the guy he choked, is now a golfer. And then we do his first thing he gets a hole-in-one because he's so good at golf. Now.
Speaker 2:Well, he used to be very good at golf too, dan, if that helps you.
Speaker 1:Oh, so now he's very good, he gets hole-in-one, hole-in-one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's back to his old self.
Speaker 1:And then he hits. We have a montage of stuff and at one point he hits a snake into the blonde kid's hair. I thought that was kind of interesting. It's very funny. More hole in ones, his kids call. He wins day three. There's only 18 more holes to go. He's now going to work with number two. Who's Billy? Who's played by Haley Joel Osment, right? Is that who it? By Haley Joel Osment, right? Is that who?
Speaker 2:it is Haley Joel Osment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's him Can't really act or comedically act.
Speaker 2:You know what's interesting, because I agree with you on this, but he keeps getting roles that would suggest the opposite.
Speaker 1:That he can act or he can comedic act which one?
Speaker 2:Both the second one can act comedic, act which one? Both, even the second one comedic, because I he had, I, I think he can act. I think I haven't seen him do it in a long time, right um, but like he does keep getting like little comedic roles and I just I don't see it.
Speaker 1:But you know, somebody clearly does so you who, like this movie, did not think he was funny in this movie.
Speaker 2:That is correct. Yeah, he has one bit that made me laugh which we can talk about when we get to it, but I'll probably forget. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So we're going into day four. He goes back to, he does oh, they, we're doing, they're, they're letting, oh no, shooters out. So shooters off with the maxi guy and he's eating pancakes I don't know if I did this whole I don't know if I wrote this all down, but we we do the whole shooter thing. This was probably the funniest part in the movie it's great. It's great shooters doesn't want to be interrupted from eating his pancakes and then got a nice stack of pancakes.
Speaker 1:And he does that thing. We do the whole thing because the bad guy lays out the thing, where it's like this one guy was a great golfer and he died and then we looked at his bones and then we saw that he had this Shoe up his ass. So that's the thing he dies from getting a shoe up his ass. But then they find out that he has this congenital problem with his ligaments or whatever. And so then yeah, the dude's explaining how we do the ligaments, but shooter just keeps going back to this the shoe but the shoe in the ass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's great, it's very funny.
Speaker 1:Okay, there's a question. Okay, we're going to ask Tony that question.
Speaker 2:Yeah, talk to me.
Speaker 1:We have the dude who's playing Shooter, and then we have Adam Sandler, who's a better comedic actor.
Speaker 2:Oh, shooter. But to be fair, I also feel like that in the first one and I think I'd be in the minority there, probably so he couldn't even do it back in his first movie. I mean, he can do it, I just don't think that. I think he has a very specific comedic voice, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Ooh, sandler, yeah, sandler, oh okay, but you see, that's the thing is. I don't even see that, that point. You know, he doesn't feel like an angry guy, he doesn't feel like a drunk guy, he feels like it feels like I'm watching Adam Sandler, the entire movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get that Other than at the golf course when he's screaming. That's the only time he does a happy Gilmore bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, a couple times he drifts into the character and I was like, oh look, there's a character, he's immediately, they literally within seconds, like you know that very first time with the margaret crawley, that thing, you're like you can see him for a second, then he just disappears.
Speaker 2:He's just like ah, it's gone well, because now he's not angry, happy gilmore, he's sad, happy gilmore, you see oh, that's almost like a thing you could do.
Speaker 1:You'd have to find, I think, some people would argue that they did it.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Um, yeah, no, I mean I, I, I can't, I can't stress enough how, how great I think shooter is. Yeah, he's both movies. He's just so. In everything, honestly, in everything he does right, like he's, I think he's a genius, you know. I'll just say, like McDonald's is always fire, right, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was. It was an interesting character and I think it could have actually would be great in a good movie.
Speaker 2:Well then, you should watch Happy Gilmore 1, because that is a great movie and he is great in it. He killed it for me.
Speaker 1:He killed it for me. They killed it for me already. So he starts having problems because he's thinking, oh, because it's Mother's Day, and so he has problems. He goes back to the drink and, yeah, he comes in sixth. But Billy, who comes in first, quits to go play in the maxi because this was all like a trick.
Speaker 2:He's one of the bad guys.
Speaker 1:One of the bad players. Okay, now we're to the scene where Shooter goes to Happy Gilmore's wife's grave and then Happy Gilmore shows up there, and then they fight, and then they apologize.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like men, it was a great scene Dan.
Speaker 1:It's a great idea for a scene, the song is. We're not even going to argue about this because you think it's great we don't have to argue, but here's what I'm going to tell you, Dan.
Speaker 2:Here are the things that you missed from this scene. Right, it honors every not everyone, but a bunch of people that have passed away from the last movie. Right, they're the part where Sandler's on top of shooter.
Speaker 1:See, that's, that doesn't matter. See, see, tony, what you're just going to matter, just saying all these callbacks make it great, and All these callbacks make it great and that's fine. I'm not saying it's not. I'm not saying you don't find it funny.
Speaker 2:I'm saying there's no emotional resonance.
Speaker 1:But that's where I'm disagreeing with you, because Sandler doesn't get emotional.
Speaker 2:No, no, but we are supposed to get. He's not emotional in this scene. They are old rivals, slash friends, right. They are old rivals, slash friends, right. But this is, this is uh, this is an homage to our fallen heroes from the past. So the Bob Barker bit, uh, when they, when they're sitting, when they're laying next to Bob's grave, right, for example, they do a little fight scene, there's a choke and his eyes go bit like it is. It's frame for frame, the same fight he had with Bob Barker 30 years ago.
Speaker 1:And that's emotional. That's yeah, but for something to be emotional, the characters have to experience the actors.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I agree, because the scene itself isn't emotional, right Like, what's happening isn't emotional.
Speaker 1:It has to be no it's not. These two characters that want to kill each other have to not want to kill each other and have to understand each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they do. They're old men. This is like the most basic. This is exactly what happened. Two 60-year old men decided to fight. It lasts 18 seconds and then they're like, okay, well, that was fun, should we just move on with our lives now? That's just real, that's just what happens.
Speaker 1:You know, I understand what this, what the scene is supposed to be about. Just saying they just don they just don't go. They just like okay, they hire a lawyer. It's the IRS guy from the first movie, which should make us all laugh. It turns out that they dropped. He won $100,000, $486,000, but the tour fined him half a million dollars. Wow, money. That was very funny. Then he has to stop drinking. The daughter daughter's like you need to stop drinking again, he's like okay, now really all right, this time I'll do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he goes to see how a drinking problem works.
Speaker 1:By the way, he goes to see a caddy and then the caddy's son is there in a miniature golf course and he's got this robot arm and plaster hand, which I was like. Once again, we've set up something that's could be incredibly funny and all we get out of it is one gorilla glue joke so all of that again, dan, is a callback to first such a chubbs, uh, carl weathers, his teacher, the first movie.
Speaker 2:His hand got bit off by an alligator so he has a wooden hand. So they gave his son a wooden hand, which is very funny, and also they accentuate the length of the wooden. So it's silly in the first movie because you can clearly see that Carl Weathers is just holding a wooden hand in his actual hand because it's longer, you know. So then this movie, it's like a foot longer than his other arm, which is wonderful. They do the gator bit and he's like no, no, vending machine had to get up there. That's very funny. And then the gorilla glue is just a call back to his dad, because he spends half the movie trying to glue his hand back. Now I don't know who this guy is. I didn't find him all that, um, entertaining, he's a stand.
Speaker 2:I think he's a stand-up okay yeah, I mean I don't know, uh, but yeah, no, I loved it and it's just the physical nature. And then later they have him, like, pointing at people with the wooden hand.
Speaker 1:Very funny shooter gives them a pep talk which is really just showing videos of the five players sucking. It's funny.
Speaker 2:It is funny. It's funny because they're game for it. Like I have so much respect for these golfers that are like, yeah, you can make fun of me, it's fine.
Speaker 1:I love that. I'm sure they've had to live with it. Now we're going to get to Tony's favorite part of the movie, the super racist part. Uh-oh, we do the whole thing where the white golfers are paying a Mexican or Latin American guy to run across the field and they hit him with golf balls.
Speaker 2:Then after that the Latin guy takes a hundred dollars and happy gilmore gets to punch him in the face yeah, and the only reason that it's funny is him, the guy when that, when he's like he said you're not gonna hit him and like why not? And he just goes I'm shifty. That's a very funny line, that's it. That's the only funny part of that scene. But him saying I'm shifty, it made me giggle.
Speaker 1:So here's the biggest problem with that, dan, and this is Let me, tell me about the most racist scene in the movie and how.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you what the problem with that is. On the surface level, I agree with you, but it goes even deeper, Dan.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 2:It's even more racist than I thought it is. This movie is racist, but it's also classist. So the entire first movie, the entire thing, is all about class structure and him being like a lower class citizen in this golf league and that's why everybody hates him. So for then, in the sequel, to have him basically do the same thing is a betrayal. It's a betrayal of the character.
Speaker 1:And how does he suffer for that?
Speaker 2:He gets to punch him in the face. Does that count? Wait, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1:Wait. What you're saying is the Happy Gilmore character has now betrayed his true status, which is being against what he's. He's now fighting for the institutional racism of the golf hierarchy, exactly. And how does he get punished for that, which is what should?
Speaker 2:happen? No, he doesn't. I was making a joke that his punishment is getting to punch the guy in the face Because that's not a punishment. Yeah, so that is my second biggest problem with the movie. Oh, I get it.
Speaker 1:So that basically what you're saying is, adam Sandler has become supposedly what he hated.
Speaker 2:And he's completely fine with it.
Speaker 1:I watched a really interesting thing.
Speaker 1:Like I told you, I watched the thing about having the daughters and then they did a whole big thing about him having the private chef and how the private chef worked out of the second kitchen of his house. See, that's the thing Interesting. You get to this certain point with these people and I think Adam Sandler is one of those where he's like I don't give a fuck about anything except having all the money in the world and using it in all the ways that I can. I mean, he probably does a lot of good things with his money too.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying he doesn't do good things with his money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, of course, but he's a person who is going to enjoy all of his money. You know, it's like he had Halsey come and be, you know, at his daughter's bat mitzvah. And at a certain point, at a certain point, you write a movie like this, where you have become that person.
Speaker 1:You've become everything you hated. You say, no, look my character's driving in a beat up car. You say, no, look my character's driving in a beat up car, but he's paying a guy $100 to punch him in the face when he has no money. Exactly, and money is his entire motivation for existing 100%.
Speaker 2:Now here's what I will say is I do think this is the only time they do that in the movie. I mean, that's the only time, it's truly apparent.
Speaker 2:Yes, Sure, sure. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, I agree with that, Because they do the same bit where he takes the underdog and lets him be the caddy, and the first one it's a homeless guy that was washing his windshield at the beginning and then gets pulled off by the police and he's like I don't know, he's just trying to make a buck. And then he lets them be his caddy, cause you know he's the man of the people.
Speaker 1:But I think it's. I think if you want to, if you want to go deeper into that, they don't even show them hiring the caddy A hundred percent, a hundred percent yeah. It's almost like you had to say something to the caddy about what's going on.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, what's interesting is, you knew, I mean I knew, right as soon as that altercation happened in the restaurant, and then he came over and was like, hey, man, you, you didn't have to really talk to that guy like that or whatever he said. I was like, oh well, that's the new caddy, which I'm not saying that makes it good, I'm just saying like you know, you understand what they're going for, but in this scene it feels like that could have been the movie to me is he's become everything he hated and he has to get back to the grounded, lovable guy he once was.
Speaker 1:You know, I don't know, it's almost like you could have put that in the movie you could have put it in the movie, but you didn't, and that's all right. Okay. So the Maxie guy makes one more pitch to try and get Happy Gilmore. But Happy Gilmore's, no, I'm sticking. I'm Mr Traditional Golf, they're my people. There it is. There's people, right?
Speaker 2:And don't you, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:I mean, they weren't there for him when he was thrown out of the league. Nobody was there for him.
Speaker 2:He even says that earlier in the grocery store. He's like nah, golf's not boring, they're my friends, or something like that. And it's like are they? Because nobody's checking up on you, nobody's helping you.
Speaker 1:The one time he asked for money from the guy, he's like, oh, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 2:See you later.
Speaker 1:Like a whole room of people that are all millionaires. No one's willing to help, and that's the thing. That's why you don't make your movie about money is because then it puts every relationship into question. Like you know, people that are multimillionaires.
Speaker 2:And are quite friendly with them that seem like they're your friends.
Speaker 1:They're not your friends Because he doesn't have any friends, because he's not a character. Well he kills all of his friends.
Speaker 2:Everyone that gets close to him dies.
Speaker 1:You know what? It'd almost be interesting if they said that in this movie.
Speaker 2:He said it in the first movie, Dan.
Speaker 1:You don't have to say it twice. I need to have a 29-year memory the day of the game.
Speaker 2:To be clear everybody, I watched Happy Gilmore immediately after watching the second one and then re-watched the second one. Yeah, there you go. I do not have a 29-year memory. I just want to make that clear.
Speaker 1:Yes, Okay, the bad guys are comical. Yes, okay, the bad guys are like comical. There's a guy named Screech and Flex and Howley and 8-Ball and also Billy.
Speaker 2:And then just Billy. Yep, I don't know, it's weird.
Speaker 1:Then Billy Hole one. You have to shoot it over these trees.
Speaker 2:Scheffler immediately punches a guy and gets DQ'd. Yeah, pretty funny, that's the one thing I'll say. And then arrested, he gets arrested.
Speaker 1:His punch looks like a real punch. He throws a good fake punch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think he just swung at the guy I'm just going to be honest with you.
Speaker 1:It looked very real, I think he just took a poke at him. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is a great bit. Um, do you know, do you know scheffler's past I think it was last year, got arrested on the way to the people's championship, won a golf tournament. He uh, he got like pulled over because he was speeding or something. He got arrested hours before the tournament and they had to like go and get him out of jail so this is a nod to that.
Speaker 2:um, and it's very funny because he just goes not again, great, great, very funny. Good for him. Goes ugh not again, great, great, very funny. Good for him for being able to laugh at something that was probably pretty traumatic at the time, but it's good, we do montages.
Speaker 1:It's a crazy golf course. There's fire, windmills, crazy carts, there's a shot clock.
Speaker 2:We do a thing with yeah, I'm going to love this. How do you feel about the Maxi League it? How?
Speaker 1:do you feel about the Maxi League? It would have been interesting if it was interesting, right.
Speaker 2:You could have made it interesting. Any real writer could have made it interesting, yeah, but they chose not to.
Speaker 1:They chose to like, you know, like Scheffler's just like out instantly.
Speaker 2:You're like wait a second.
Speaker 1:You got to get him out. I mean, I like the idea of how you get him out. The joke is good.
Speaker 2:The joke is good, the joke is good, but the joke is misplaced. Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1:There's this guy in a bucket hat who's Joel Flaherty's kid. I don't even know what any of that is. Do you want me to explain it to you? No, I don't want to know. I'm not going to explain it to you. I don't want to know, I'm not going to explain it to you.
Speaker 2:It is from the first one. Okay, yeah, I know. And then his gravestone is in the cemetery as well. That's fine. He's the jackass guy. All I want to say is Eminem is so funny. That was Eminem, that is Eminem. Oh, the rapper. And he's so funny in this Detroit, what I mean? I was dying. I thought this was incredible. He's my second favorite cameo of the movie.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Behind Scotty Scheffler. I think Scotty Scheffler steals the show. He was funny, 100%. He was funny, he was very funny and I was impressed. But Eminem, he's game. He's down to play. He does a somersault while holding onto his stupid bucket hat, which is great. Yeah, 10 out of 10. Very funny cameo.
Speaker 1:One of the guys gets injured, they sub in Shooter. I thought that was a good moment. I wish that was a good moment.
Speaker 2:I wish that he was drinking out of a juice box. I don't know why. I just thought that that would be funny. He's like drinking a soda or something with a straw. And I was like what if that's just a juice box? And it's just kind of you know, because he's crazy, right, he's from an asylum, Give him a little juice box.
Speaker 1:Somebody says go back to their shanties. I laughed at that joke. I don't know why I did.
Speaker 2:Hey, see, you laughed at it and that's from the first one. That's a callback to when he says it in the first one. Happy Gilmore said it. No, no, shooter said it. Oh, shooter said it. Yeah, because he delivers a joke. He's trying to bring out the old shooter.
Speaker 1:See, but that's the thing he delivered. A line from the first movie that didn't depend on you knowing it was in the first movie, because it's a funny line.
Speaker 2:It is a very funny line.
Speaker 1:He chips it in. Now it's just Billy versus Happy. Yeah, happy, gilmore. Shot clocks are off. I love that you set up. What we're going to do is we're going to have shot clocks and then you're like, yeah, but not on this one.
Speaker 2:Not when it matters, not on the one that it actually matters in. We're going to turn that off. Yep, what a weird choice.
Speaker 1:He imagines the therapy guy is the ball so he could hit it far. He hits it in a pit, then we have the tilt-a-hole, which I thought was interesting. Yeah, and we do this whole thing with the tilting hole, and then it's a rotating hole, and then I love the.
Speaker 2:I caught my own club.
Speaker 1:That's a great joke, that was nice, that was a nice joke, yeah, and that this part was interesting and I was like oh, this is what this whole section should have been about. Should have been some other things like this, and should have been some interesting challenges.
Speaker 2:But it was not it. It was so when people call it lazy, right, this is the one time that I agree, because this has very little to do with the first one and it has very little to do with this movie, and it was just like let's just throw in some things for silly, to be silly's sake. Let's not think too hard about the golf of it all, and this is supposed to be a golf. The first one one is a golf move.
Speaker 1:Hold on a second. So this should have a little bit more golf. You're saying the Maxi thing, which is supposed to be funny. You were like you should have left all that out. It should have just been like a golf tournament.
Speaker 2:No, I like the idea of a heightened golf because it's kind of making fun of whatever that new Tiger Woods League is Sure, I can't think of the name of it, no, no, no when it's all like they're in like the dome and it's digital and it's all like rock music, like it's that times 20. But I don't think they took the time to figure out the league, like I think that that is. I think the league is the right choice to make fun of where golf is going and how people feel about it. But I think you have to figure out the legal of it. I love the tilta putting, I think that's great, so you like that. But the other one's like oh, hit it over trees.
Speaker 1:What the hell is that?
Speaker 2:Didn't make any sense. Who cares? What are you talking about? Hit it over trees. That's dumb. So I would have appreciated a little more thought going into the Maxi League, because I love the last bit. I think the tilt putt is very fun, yeah.
Speaker 1:So eventually we do bargaining and basically the bargain is if you make this shot even though you wouldn't win and you would just tie, you win instead.
Speaker 2:Doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1:Why would you do that? Don't think too hard.
Speaker 2:No idea, don't think too hard about it why would you bargain away what you're doing? I don't know doesn't make any sense. So I'll tell. I mean, I'll tell you why you're gonna yell at me. In the original, one shooter buys grandma's house and is basically like if you win the tournament, you win the house back. So they're just doing the exact same thing, but without any of the setup or anything that makes sense whatsoever. They're just like hey, remember how we finished it the last time? We're just doing the same thing because, fuck it.
Speaker 1:But I mean, the truth of the matter is he doesn't win.
Speaker 2:He ties. He doesn't win, he ties, yeah, yeah, nope, 100%. And you don't have to set it up that way, because you're making that decision Right, like he could just win on a crazy putt, because that's what he did last time.
Speaker 1:You should probably have your hero win. As opposed to set up a bargain. That means the hero can win by tying.
Speaker 2:Which is not how anything works.
Speaker 1:Whatsoever, he makes the shot. Oscar falls and the shot falls. I like that. I thought that was nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everyone celebrates. He goes back to therapy. He's three months sober. Hal has to go to jail, but before going to jail he steals the coin and runs away.
Speaker 2:That's a bit from the first one.
Speaker 1:He has an emotional scene with his daughter who's playing this goth girl. The daughter is leaving. The boys are going to set up their own singing mime group. Then all the dead people wave goodbye and he got the car from the one guy in the bargain.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was in the bargain. I don't understand, I forgot to charge it.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to walk away from a million dollar car when you could just use your cell phone and call someone to come pick it up and charge it so what needs to happen, dan.
Speaker 2:What needs to happen here is that he hits the car with his golf clubs.
Speaker 1:So this is, this is a Gilmore moment.
Speaker 2:He's got to be angry. He needs more rage, cause he does that in charge Damn it and like that's that.
Speaker 2:I think that might be a 10 for Adam Sandler right now, like that might be as much energy as he can give. Maybe that's the case, I don't know. But happy would have flipped. But Happy would have flipped out right Like that's just who he is and that would have been a really nice moment for him to go full Happy Gilmore into the credits. It would have been, but it wasn't Too bad. Yeah, you know he almost did a really good job.
Speaker 1:Maybe I'll make happy Gilmore three and maybe he'll care about that. When I talked about it, did you see that?
Speaker 2:Who's they? They talked about it already. Uh, the director talked about, uh, the possibility of a third one. Oh, I think that would be a huge mistake. Why You'd have to go a very different direction, Because this is not again, as we said, this is not a standalone movie.
Speaker 2:So if you make a third one, what do you do? Are you doing Callbacks to the second and the first and you're just like compounding it. That's going to get confusing. Or you have to go to a completely different direction. Just make a real movie, and I think that would be jarring. I don't know. I just don't think a third one's going to work, but I'll watch it.
Speaker 1:It would be jarring if they made a real movie.
Speaker 2:You don't think it would If they made one and then made two, which is just, you know, s and one's D. I don't know how you make a third one based off of this.
Speaker 1:I don't, but I'm in, I'll watch it, I'm just writing that it would be jarring if you made a real movie. Adam Sandler's commitment to the art form, to the craft. Well, I mean, there it is the bots and Tony giving us a thumbs up.
Speaker 2:Everyone I've talked to enjoys it. Who's?
Speaker 1:everyone you've talked to.
Speaker 2:They don't love the Maxi League. Just all my friends, all my friends. So they did like it and my brother and his friends. Yeah, yeah, everyone likes it. Nobody likes it like I like it, but everybody likes it. You know what I mean. Nobody's like well, that movie was dumb. That's not true. Everybody thinks the movie's dumb, but in a fun way. Oh, okay, does that make sense?
Speaker 1:So there are people that like this movie.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, that's good. Oh yeah, there's lots of people that like it, not critics, mind you.
Speaker 1:I mean it does have 69% on Rotten Tomatoes. That's not saying everybody likes it. That means a lot of people did not like it.
Speaker 2:A lot of those people are stupid, dan, if they've seen the first one. If you haven't seen the first one, I don't even know how that experience would be. I'm just watching you go through it, because, again, it relies on the first one. You have to not only have seen the first one, but have a connection with the first one. You know what I mean, because it's not just like, oh hey, I enjoy the first one, but like have a connection with the first one. You know what I mean, cause it's not just like, oh hey, I enjoy the first one, and then you're like okay, but this is, you're just kind of saying the same things. For the most part, you have to have a connection with the first one.
Speaker 1:See, the thing my point is I'm going to make my. My final point is at one point there, yeah, at one point, there was like a really tall guy in the first movie, and so they have this other really tall guy who I guess is his kid and his wife or mother or something, I don't even know.
Speaker 2:His mom? Yeah, yeah, his mom. His dad's wife, yep.
Speaker 1:Did you really need that scene in this movie?
Speaker 2:I did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you needed that scene in this movie.
Speaker 2:It's very funny and the fact that he put the nail like what a great joke. So the whole thing in the first one is the guy is like I'm getting the nail out. Happy put the nail in his head on accident, shot him with a nail gun and he had a nail sticking out of his head right for the whole movie. And at the end of the movie happy thinks he's going to be mad at him, but he, he's actually his fan and he's like no, I'm getting it out next week. It's good stuff. So then in this movie, like yeah, he missed the nail so much that he put it back in himself and then he dies because he rolled over on it asleep. I mean it's a very happy Gilmore joke and I thought it was very funny. And then I also thought it was funny when he cowers and it's like mama, don't hit me, and she's like three feet tall, great stuff. Yeah, I thought it was great, I loved it.
Speaker 2:I'm glad there was because it brings back all of the characters you love from the first one. It takes it, takes the time to include everything you love in the first one and brings it back for you in the second one. I mean it's fan service to a 20. And that's what people pretend they want. And then when they get it, they're like, well, that doesn't make any sense. It's like, well, yeah, you didn't want a real movie, you wanted fan service.
Speaker 1:That's true. I turned the Mandalorian off after one episode. So this is not the movie for me.
Speaker 2:Dan's not a fan service kind of guy.
Speaker 1:I'm not, I just think people should make movies.
Speaker 2:And I get it. I think normally I feel that way as well, but this just happens to be one of my big fan things. You know, like happy Gilmore is my childhood. There it is. So then, an adult man basically doing a love letter to the thing that I loved growing up and seeing how we're both like the joke when he's, when he's going to his new happy place and he's like I guess I need a happy place. It's more age appropriate and it's him on the shitter on the phone. That's his happy place. Yeah, me too. Buddy Love that. That's the only peace and quiet you get throughout the day. That's the best place to be. It's just good man, it's good, it's relatable.
Speaker 1:It's great They've made the perfect Tony movie.
Speaker 2:They made the perfect Tony movie. It's not perfect. You heard that it's not perfect.
Speaker 1:No, no, no it's a perfect Tony movie. It's not a perfect movie. It's a perfect Tony movie.
Speaker 2:Alright, but I still don't think it. Otherwise I would give it a 10. This is an 8.5. With nostalgia included.
Speaker 1:No, I know you had to look at his wife's face. I understand that it's not a movie. You know there's definitely things that you would edit out included. No, I know you had to look at his wife's face. I understand that it's not a movie. You know there's definitely things that you would edit out, like her face I understand that.
Speaker 2:Sure, there's probably more, probably Probably more things.
Speaker 1:Oh man, Tony, you are an embarrassment to everyone.
Speaker 2:He just seems like a good guy. You know Real sweet guy.
Speaker 1:And his ivory tower. I'm sure he comes out.
Speaker 2:I mean, that is the thing right.
Speaker 1:I'm sure he has lots of friends that have nothing to do with his ivory tower, uh-huh. Well, maybe he'll make something that's creative again someday, maybe I mean he made a good jump. So you know, give him that. Yeah, and that wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 2:No, maybe he did the spider movie, and I think their next one's going to be good too.
Speaker 1:I'd watch the spider movie over this movie.
Speaker 2:I would never do that. Oh boy, I hated that movie so much. What his next movie.
Speaker 1:He's got something else coming out yeah, I can't.
Speaker 2:I just read about it now. I can't find it again. He's doing a movie. It's it's like a drama with somebody I really like don't, you can't figure it I can't find it. I should have done a little more research. But yeah, so it's next. The next one that I read about is like a drama, and I think it's going to be pretty good. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:But we'll see.
Speaker 2:You never know.
Speaker 1:So, Tony, tell us something else you like this week.
Speaker 2:Something else I enjoy. This week we watched it's on the same type of idea. Oh, gosh we watched Karate Kid Legends and it was delightful. It was really fun. The kid that is the Karate Kid in this movie unreal. This kid's got some skills. Man Hi-yah and Jackie was like you should do your own stunts, so he does most of his own stunts, which is incredible. It's great, and Jackie Chan's in it um jackie chan karate kid larusso.
Speaker 2:What's his name? I can't think of his name. I know whatever the kid from correct ralph machio uh is in it. They kind of both trained because jackie chan was in the uh will smith's kid version of karate kid, which we're going to do at some point for this.
Speaker 1:Was it really good?
Speaker 2:you're saying I did not. I refused to see it because I do not care for Jaden. Wow yeah, but it was life. It was very fun. It was a very fun movie. Now is that a movie in?
Speaker 1:theaters, or is that on some streaming platform?
Speaker 2:It was in theaters, and now it is on VOD. We bought it. It was on sale for $14.99, though. Oh wow, pretty good deal. What about you, dan?
Speaker 1:I started this movie, the Assessment. It's about the future where if you want to have a kid, you have to have, like this accessory person come and live with you for a week. I would never get a kid and you just spend the whole movie wanting to kill the assessor. Okay, so I don't know if I'll finish it. I'm gonna try to finish it, but it's uh okay, it's very hard, but it's hard.
Speaker 2:It's hard to get through very harsh interesting? Where is Interesting? Where is this I?
Speaker 1:think it's on Hulu. Okay, I think it was like from 2023 or 2024. Oh, okay, it's got Scarlet Witch, elizabeth Olsen and one of my favorites, hamish Patel. Oh, okay, you would know that he's an actor, he's not a failed comedian.
Speaker 2:Oh well, I mean, listen's not a, not a failed comedian. Yeah well, I mean, listen they not everybody can be a failed comedian.
Speaker 1:The richest failed comedian slash.
Speaker 2:Richest person in the world right, yeah, he's probably doing okay, dan I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think adam sandler is doing okay. I think he could buy our show. He could afford to buy our show and put us out of business for the rest of our lives or support us for the rest of our lives or support us for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 2:Either one, Adam. You let us know, bud. Happy Gilmore 2, greatest movie I've ever seen. Just keep in mind how glowing my review of Happy Gilmore 2 was.
Speaker 1:I will change my review.
Speaker 2:Dan, we have no problem selling out. I'll tell you that right now.
Speaker 1:I am so ready to sell out for almost nothing.
Speaker 2:Dear sponsors, let us know We'll do anything for cash.
Speaker 1:Almost nothing. Do you need a kidney? I'm your guy.
Speaker 2:You probably don't want Any of my kidneys. They're probably not working so good.
Speaker 1:Okay, Tony, find us a movie we can Both agree is terrible.
Speaker 2:Okay now. So Did you want to still do Babylon AD or do you want to save that I'll?
Speaker 1:maybe do it next. I'll pick that one later. I do want to still do Babylon AD. Or do you want to save that? I'll maybe do it next year. I'll pick that one later. I do want to still do that someday.
Speaker 2:Forget about it for now. Put that one out of your mind. Vin Diesel. I know we all miss him. Put it out of your mind we're going to watch a comedy sequel that actually was Dreadful. We're going to do Zoolander 2. Oh, we're going to do Zoolander 2. Oh, and then you can see the difference, dan, between a movie that cares about the original and one that doesn't give a shit. Now, was Will Ferrell in both of them? I guess? I don't remember if Will Ferrell's in Zoolander 2.
Speaker 1:No, is he in one I don't think so yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh sorry, yeah, he's the bad guy. Yeah, he's the bad guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's the bad guy in Zoolander Sorry, zoolander one, he's the bad guy, so I've seen Zoolander one.
Speaker 2:I don't think I've seen Zoolander two Delightful, great movie. Zoolander one Very fun.
Speaker 1:It's okay.
Speaker 2:I put we used to watch it all the time. But, that also just goes to show you where my sense of humor is at. Yeah, very immature.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I might watch Zoolander 1 before we watch Zoolander 2.
Speaker 2:Okay, you know what? No, you can't. You're not allowed If you weren't going to watch Happy Gilmore, one of the greatest movies of all time. You're not allowed to watch Zoolander 1 before you watch Zoolander 2. No, you know what. You do it. I won't watch it. How about that? We'll switch the roles, I don't care what it is, Although I'm pretty sure I have Zoolander pretty memorized. Oh really.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that's going to work. I think I saw it.
Speaker 2:Maybe five years later.
Speaker 1:And I think I was like I found Ben Stiller kind of annoying. I found what's his name? Very funny, Owen Wilson. Owen Wilson I found very funny. And then Will Ferrell I thought was the whole movie.
Speaker 2:I was just like he was, just, he just was. Yeah, he's wonderful. He was just I feel like I'm taking crazy pills yeah he's great.
Speaker 1:I feel like I'm taking crazy pals. I'll probably watch some of it at least Maybe. I'll watch 10 minutes of it to see.
Speaker 2:Or I could just quote it a bunch to you next week, and then you can vicariously watch it that way.
Speaker 1:Let's not do that again, Tony, where you are explaining everything.
Speaker 2:If you want to set rules on the podcast, you can. It's your show.
Speaker 1:Well, we're not going to the show's not as long as the movie, because that movie was much too long.
Speaker 2:Agreed.
Speaker 1:I thought I had a bonus hate in here, that I had to bonus hate something. Oh no, did you see the Fantastic Four movie?
Speaker 2:No, no, not yet. It's on my list, it's on your list. Maybe we should do the old ones.
Speaker 1:I like those. I don't want to do the Roger Well, I can't do the Roger Corman one. We did the one, we did the one. Well, they did. Oh, did we? Yeah, we did the Miles Teller one.
Speaker 2:We did that one, because that's the only way I saw it. Oh, we did do it. You're right, we did do it. Yeah, it's a bad movie.
Speaker 1:I loved the love. I really liked the original ones.
Speaker 2:Oh well, you know, of course, dan, it's got Jessica Alba.
Speaker 1:We all know You're going to like it no matter what she was just like, and I thought they were good. I don't know why everybody hates those movies so much.
Speaker 2:I love them. I wish I remembered Mr Fantastic's name, but I love him, he's great. And then Chris Evans, very funny.
Speaker 1:Is it Ian McGuffin or whatever his name is?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever that guy's name is, he did a show where he died over and over. Do you remember?
Speaker 1:that. That was a great show. We loved that. He lived forever or something, millennium or something. Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2:Great stuff. We really liked it. Or effortless.
Speaker 1:Is it called Forever? Forever, I think it Maybe it is Something like that. Yeah, he's a good. What's her name? Michael Chiklis is the thing. It's fine, I mean, yeah, for sure the suit wasn't great, but whatever.
Speaker 2:I don't think the new one's looking very good. It's all CGI. It looks weird. I don't know. It looks okay.
Speaker 1:I don't like the Spider-Man movies. I never liked any of those Spider-Man movies like the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movies.
Speaker 2:Like the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movies. Spider-man 2, one of the greatest superhero films of all time Never liked them. Wow, Dan, Wow. Sam Raimi classic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, army of Darkness, those ones. He was good. He kind of lost it after that. You know I was watching Danny Boyle was in the Criterion Closion closet and he said, you know, somebody said to him Everybody, every director's first movie is really their best movie, interesting, yeah, ok, because they really that's the one you work the hardest on. You kind of sure quite possibly have the most control. You know, look at the super trooper guys.
Speaker 2:Right, you know well, their second again it was. Their second movie was super troopers. First movie was puddle cruiser, very mediocre cruisers was their best movie it wasn't.
Speaker 1:I promise it took me so much power to not say that Club Dread was their second movie. I wanted to say that so badly just to piss you off.
Speaker 2:Well, it would have worked, Dan. I know, sheesh, luis, it would have driven you insane.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we'll be back. We're going to talk about what movie were we doing? We're doing Zoolander 2.
Speaker 2:Oh, zoolander 2. We're sticking with the comedy sequels.
Speaker 1:Comedy sequels Owen Wilson other guy, another guy, ben Stiller. Ben Stiller, back to back.
Speaker 2:So much Ben Stiller needs to happen. Forgot about.
Speaker 1:Hal, it's easy to forget about. Yeah, if you like what we do, leave us a comment or subscribe, or thumbs up our last episode was slow. Yeah, if you like what we do leave us a comment or subscribe, or Nobody's going to like it. Thumbs up. Our last episode was slow, but it's picking up some views. We've been getting some views.
Speaker 2:What was last week? I don't know. I don't know either, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:Was it Club Dread? It was Club Dread, it was Club.
Speaker 2:Dread, was it Club Dread? Yeah, you pivoted halfway through the week. I forgot.
Speaker 1:That was the one thing I was going to say about the Happy Gilmore 2 is like I didn't hate it. Well, yeah, because it's great. It's wonderful, no it's not very wonderful, but I didn't hate it. It was just like I was indifferent and that's I guess, if you don't come into this-.
Speaker 2:I think that 100%.
Speaker 1:And I will say that is the one thing I bring to every Adam Sandler movie. Is I Indifference? No, it pisses me off that he does not seem to care about his artwork, his art. I get that Because I know he can do. I know the movie that's in these movies. That could be the movie if they spent five times as much time and he really had to live in them. Yeah, and that's what pisses me off about the movies is the indifference.
Speaker 2:I get that. But then you know, just respect, Shooter more. You know Chris McDonald giving you all he's got. He was great Everything he's got and it great Everything he's got and it's a 10 out of 10.
Speaker 1:You see, him in a scene, and I guess that's the thing I couldn't live with is, if I was walking on the set and there was another guy that was doing that, I would be like, fuck, I need to make my shit happen.
Speaker 2:I agree, you have to be better. You have to be like oh shit, you're going 110. I'm going to go 130 because I need to be better than you. I get that 100%. Yeah, Adam doesn't.
Speaker 1:He does not, you know.
Speaker 2:My wife says why is?
Speaker 1:he dressing like trash. There it is Because he can't dress like trash.
Speaker 2:Because he can yeah, he can do whatever he wants to.
Speaker 1:He's a bajillionaire, oh, he's a bajillionaire, oh wow, okay, we'll talk about that other movie, zoolander 2, next time.
Speaker 2:Zoolander 2. Yeah, there you go, goodbye everybody. Hey watch it with Dan and Tony. Hey watch it with Dan and Tony. It's like watching, yeah.