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Hate Watching I Still Know What You Did Last Summer: Hook, Line, and No Terror

Dan Goodsell and Tony Czech Season 1 Episode 247

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Remember when 90s horror was all about beautiful people running from fishermen with hooks? "I Still Know What You Did Last Summer" perfectly encapsulates that strange era when our slashers took tropical vacations and our protagonists made questionable decisions at every turn.

Jennifer Love Hewitt returns as Julie James, still traumatized from the events of the first film, now haunted by nightmares and paranoia. When she and her college roommate Brandy (played by musical superstar Brandy) win a dream vacation to the Bahamas through a radio contest, it seems like the perfect opportunity to escape her troubles. Little does she know, the contest was rigged, and the vengeful hook-wielding fisherman has orchestrated the entire scenario to finish what he started.

The film delivers exactly what sequel-hungry audiences of 1998 craved - more beautiful people, higher body count, and even Jack Black in a bizarre role as a dreadlocked weed dealer. While Freddie Prinze Jr. makes a welcome return, fans rightfully lament his limited screen time. The tropical setting provides a refreshing change from the original's small town, allowing for storm-related tension as our characters find themselves trapped in an increasingly empty resort during the off-season.

What makes this film so fascinating to revisit isn't its scares (which are minimal) or its kills (which lack creativity), but rather how perfectly it captures late 90s horror sensibilities. The fashion, the music, the dialogue - it's all a time capsule of a specific moment in cinema history when slashers were commercially viable but creatively waning. The "Ben's son" twist may induce groans rather than gasps, but there's an undeniable charm to the film's commitment to its ridiculous premise.

As a new "I Know What You Did Last Summer" film hits theaters this week, it's the perfect time to revisit this flawed but fascinating sequel and appreciate how far horror has come - or perhaps how much we sometimes miss the simpler days when all we needed was a hook, some rain, and Jennifer Love Hewitt's perfectly blow-dried hair surviving impossible humidity.

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Speaker 1:

Went to the British Museum Great Great British Museum 10 out of 10. I think we saw the Magna Carta.

Speaker 2:

Of course I don't know what that is.

Speaker 1:

It's like kind of the pre-Declaration of Independence. Oh okay, I'm pretty sure you don't have Declaration of Independence.

Speaker 2:

Oh, ben, doesn't steal it, it's a national treasure. Joke, dan.

Speaker 1:

They should do British National Treasure, where he goes and steals all the British stuff.

Speaker 2:

National treasure mate, Something like that. That would be a good move.

Speaker 1:

That's what they call it National treasure mate. That's exactly what they call it National treasure three mate. Hey watch it with Dan and Tony. Hey watch it with Dan and.

Speaker 2:

Tony hey watching with Dan and Tony.

Speaker 1:

It's like watching. Welcome to watching with Dan and Tony. I'm Dan.

Speaker 2:

I sound like a muppet.

Speaker 1:

I'm Tony. Some guy said I sound like a muppet.

Speaker 2:

Did they, are you sure, was you? Sometimes I feel like it's me that they're muppetizing.

Speaker 1:

What, actually? They said both of us, yeah, I do.

Speaker 2:

I saw one that was like feel like it's me that they're muppetizing what actually they said both of us. So yeah, I do. I saw one that was like I, something like some good information, but they both sound like muppets. I can't listen. Something that was like the abridged version, but uh, made me laugh really hard the other two-star review on on uh podcasts two out of five, hey, two, I'll tell you all right, two stars or two reviews, two stars, I'll take two All right Two stars or two reviews Two stars.

Speaker 2:

I'll take two stars.

Speaker 1:

When they're saying we sound like Muppets. Two stars is good.

Speaker 2:

But some people love Muppets so I feel like some people would think it's a five out of five. Dan Muppet talk.

Speaker 1:

If we change the title to Muppet, to Muppet talk. Muppets on movies.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, they should do that, Muppets hey reach out to us. We've got a big idea for you.

Speaker 1:

That's the way they should spend their money, because, god knows, people want. No, I'm not talking about it. Each week we talk about a movie. We watch a movie, then we talk about it. Each week we watch a movie, then, on this show, we talk about the movie.

Speaker 2:

Great, got it on the third try. I'm proud of you.

Speaker 1:

And we've been doing it for four years. It's been a long time and I think we've racked up a total of three decent movies the whole time. Maybe one good movie. I don't know if we've done a good movie, but we've.

Speaker 2:

Well, this is a perfect film that we're doing today.

Speaker 1:

it turns out I forgot that both the original and the sequel were perfect films. That's my mistake. I was like this movie is terrible, of course, but let's talk about what it's called. I Still Know what you Did Last Summer.

Speaker 2:

It's the second in the I Know what.

Speaker 1:

You Did. Last Summer, I think they made a third directed DVD.

Speaker 2:

They sure did, and it's called I'll Always Know what you Did Last Summer. It's not good, sure, and it's called I'll always know what you did last summer. It's not good, but it doesn't have the same cast, so it's not even. It's not even worth it.

Speaker 1:

You know, I think tony's, you know, excuse my french just gonna have a man, boner, in this movie and that's why he's gonna like it I like he specifies a man boner.

Speaker 2:

Yeah good, but yeah no, it's um. This is a good movie, dan Dare, I say great.

Speaker 1:

This is where we're going to go on to me talking about the movie and telling how terrible it is, and Tony agreeing with everything I say, other than he got to look into the sweet, sweet eyes of Freddie Prinze Jr Before he went south.

Speaker 2:

I will say, the cardinal sin of this film is Freddie Prinze's screen time. It's pretty low, way too low for what it should be, because, boy, when he's on screen it sings. Huh, come on.

Speaker 1:

You could almost wake up during those parts.

Speaker 2:

Oh boy, we're going to fight. Are you kidding me? He's got some great one-liners in this movie.

Speaker 1:

Oh, really, I don't think. I barely wrote down what he did in the movie. He took a. What are you?

Speaker 2:

talking about when he goes to get that guy's boat and it's storming. The guy's like oh, you see what's going on. He's like I'm not looking for a weather report, I'm looking for a boat. Come on, boom Million dollars right there. Oh boy, yeah, full chub.

Speaker 1:

Wow, Jesus. This movie stars Jennifer Love Hewitt. It does. I didn't find her attractive back in the day, but you look at her now and you're like what are you?

Speaker 2:

talking about?

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Did you not watch Party of Five Maybe?

Speaker 1:

that was your problem. No, I didn't watch.

Speaker 2:

Party of Five. Yeah, I mean, that's a good introduction to Jennifer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and you know you look at her now and you're like man, she could step out of this movie, into now and she looks now. It's almost like the entire culture. She was ahead of the curve.

Speaker 2:

And now you know, 25 years later, the culture is like my friend.

Speaker 1:

This is what we should be looking like. You know, it's kind of you know, wearing the athleisure sweatpants and the you know the little white tops and whatnot you're like, and I mean the thing about this movie is, technically it's okay, it's fine. The acting is perfect yeah, I thought I liked brandy. We gotta play great brandy's really.

Speaker 2:

She's really good mckay pfeiffer come on dude. Yeah, this is real life, it's mckay pfeiffer that's my my m&m there.

Speaker 1:

That's terrible. It was fine.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, jack black is weird I mean what is going on? I love it, I absolutely love it. But also I'm like who made this decision? Who let this happen? I don't understand. It's not like he was a star at the time.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, it's a perfect character role for a guy that was starting to get character roles.

Speaker 2:

Sure, yeah, I mean, I guess it's bizarre. It's worth watching this movie just for some of his scenes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah he's a white guy with dreads that sells weed and he'll just sort of roll up occasionally and go like hey and deliver a few lines, and then it's all good, man, it's all good and then sort of fade away, you know, into the sometimes literally in the pool scene.

Speaker 2:

that is the definition of what happens he swims up and then he swims away and just fades into the background. Perfect, it's incredible. The problem with this movie is Not enough, freddie Prinze, we agree Dan.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely nothing scary in this movie, Like literally nothing scary. The Tony I'm going to judge a horror movie on its kills. None of the kills are even moderately interesting.

Speaker 2:

There's one good kill and that's not that. One good kill does not a horror movie make, is that what they say? So I do agree with you it's lacking in good kills, which is a bummer, but there is one. Mekhi Pfeiffer's death is gold how did he die?

Speaker 1:

how did he die? He's got this great line, he just gets hooked in the hold on you're not setting it up right.

Speaker 2:

They're all, they're all standing around. He's like um, what does he say? Hold on. I wrote it down because it's so good. I'm tired, I'm hungry, I'm fucking horny and I haven't seen one goddamn psycho killer Then hook through the neck. I mean that's a 10 out of 10 kill. That's great. Also, I did enjoy when he kills the maid, not the death, but after she's dead he hooks her and just picks up her limp body with the hook.

Speaker 1:

That was pretty cool. We should have more of that now toning yes, dan, you explained to me before we watched this movie how the killer has a hook that's on a pole and I was like, oh, this is the hook hand one. And then you were like, no, no, not a pole.

Speaker 2:

I said he holds the hook. It's a's hook. It's a tool that fishermen use. However, at the end of the first one, he does lose his hand. Maybe I should have made you watch both of them, Dan.

Speaker 1:

Why didn't you tell me that last time?

Speaker 2:

I think I did. Let's rewind the tapes. You did not tell me that.

Speaker 1:

I was like, oh, it's the hook hand one. And you were like, no, no, no, no, he has a pole with a hook that he hooks people.

Speaker 2:

Not a pole. I said he holds the hook, holds it H-O-L-D-S Because he's a fisherman and it's a fisherman's tool. So he holds the. I was just saying it's not a hook hand, which is different from the urban legend about the man with a hook hand.

Speaker 1:

Well, so whatever reason they've changed, they got his hand cut off. They put the hook on his hand now.

Speaker 2:

Yes, at the end of the first one, the fake death is that he gets caught in a trap of some sort and his hand tears off, and that's all that's left of him is the hand holding the hook and his body's in the ocean, never to be seen again until this movie.

Speaker 1:

So it's a different hook too this time, because it has to be a different.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because that's got to be in police evidence, I would assume maybe it's in the police compound back home in fisherman village so if you're watching this movie you're like a lot of people.

Speaker 1:

He kills all these people just sort of randomly in the hotel and you're kind of like why? Why is he doing? This is the whole movie is like. You know the whole. I mean, I understand the. The idea of the first movie is they hit him with their car and then he's exacting vengeance. Does he expect? A lot of vengeance on random, random working people in the first movie.

Speaker 2:

No, it's. I don't think he kills anybody random. He does, yeah, no, he doesn't kill anyone random does?

Speaker 1:

he kills the people? Does he terrorize anyone?

Speaker 2:

yes oh yeah yeah, yeah, because that's the first ones. I mean again, we have to remember these are 90s cheesy horror films. They were never truly scary, they were more like the 90s movies are more like we're gonna have fun while killing people and then we add some jump scares in there every once in a while. Um, this one doesn't really have those. Um, we kind of just forgot about that part of it. But the first one's got a couple of good jump scares, um, but mostly it's him like stalking them and terrorizing them and he like he sends them letters like I know what you did last summer. And then one girl he cuts her hair while she's sleeping sarah michelle geller and it's like, oh shit, he's in my house. So there's it's more of a psychological torment until he starts killing them at the end wow, that sounds like a movie that might be interesting it's a great, it's a perfect film.

Speaker 2:

Uh, I know people, it's still a cheesy 90s horror movie, but it's, it's a perfect teen 90s slasher. So you know, what they both have is beautiful casts both, both movies full of beautiful people jack black and jack black.

Speaker 1:

um, yeah, this movie's an hour and 40 minutes. Okay, it doesn't overstay Jack Black and Jack Black. Yeah, this movie's an hour and 40 minutes.

Speaker 2:

Okay, it doesn't overstay its welcome, but yeah, I just wish there'd no not too bad.

Speaker 1:

You know, he's just killing a bunch of people. It's like just a bunch of random people. He'll just sort of They'll be knitting there, and then he'll just be like I'm in your room and I'm killing you now and you're like why?

Speaker 2:

is he like? Why? What's the point there's?

Speaker 1:

no reason.

Speaker 2:

There's no reason for him to kill them you know he's just killing everyone on the island for no reason at all he could just walked into the the main person's room and just killed them first yeah, but yeah, but then we wouldn't have the body cams. You see, the thing about a horror sequel, dan, is that there needs to be an excess amount of body. The body count has to go up. The gore usually goes up, the sex usually. You gotta amplify everything from the first one, don't you watch scream?

Speaker 1:

randy tells you all this, dan and this movie has a twist it's got two twists as far as I'm concerned well, it has a twist, and then it has a thing that doesn't make any sense. That's the ending, when they actually set up the second twist perfectly in the movie. They give it, they stay, they. They're like here's the second twist, and you're like I'm like, oh, I know what the first twist, I know what the twists are, and it's going to be great. And then they choose not to do the second twist what's the second twist?

Speaker 1:

well, I'm not telling you yet, because I want to see if you figured out what to say.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you want to build up to it.

Speaker 1:

Their second twist is that the guy is still alive and drags her under the bed, which doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2:

Well, what I will say is that's probably not real. And I only say that because in the first one, at the end of that movie, she's in the shower Great scene, by the way she's in the shower and he jumps through the glass at her, and that just never happened once we start this one. So I'm assuming that the new one by the way, everybody, the reason why we're doing this I Know what you Did Last Summer comes out this Friday in theaters. Everybody go see it. Let's support this movie, let's beat Superman. I assume that that'll have never happened in the one that they do this week. That'd be my guess. Who's in this new? It's their way of doing like this weird twist ending. It's like it's a surprise ending, but it really doesn't happen.

Speaker 1:

I know it's weird. Oh, that's really stupid.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, that's stupid. Well, I will explain.

Speaker 1:

No, you're right, I will explain the plot line that they set up in their movie, with a line that they never followed through with.

Speaker 2:

That I believe 100%.

Speaker 1:

Did you watch? There was like this TV show.

Speaker 2:

I know what you did last summer.

Speaker 1:

No, it was like maybe in the 2000s. And there's like this island and, like all these you know, jake Busey was in it, and it was a slasher, and then you know, harper's Island. Harper's Island. That's what it was.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that is. Jake Busey was in Harper's Island. I don't remember that. I believe it was, I believe you.

Speaker 1:

I believe you Did you watch Harper's Island.

Speaker 2:

I mean we watched it back in the day. Yeah, I mean we watched it back in the day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it didn't last very long. It was like 10 episodes. It was a contained story.

Speaker 2:

But they never came back with another set of people. You know that's what you hope for An anthology, as it were.

Speaker 1:

Was Jake Busey in it? I don't think so. I think he was.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I believe you, but keep going.

Speaker 1:

Jake Busey was in something. I've seen him in something. Uh, point being like that movie, that show maybe it was tomcats.

Speaker 2:

Great you know.

Speaker 1:

You never knew what was going on. You're always like what's happening, that's gonna happen sure this one, this one once. Once the guy explains what's going on, you're like, oh, that's what's happening. Then it's a lie too. But whatever, okay, we start. What do we start with, tony? We start with a Pieta. You know what a Pieta is I?

Speaker 2:

thought you were just a fancy way of saying a guy named Peter.

Speaker 1:

No, pieta. Pieta is where it's the Virgin Mary holding Jesus.

Speaker 2:

Oh, because we start in the church. We start in the church. Church, jennifer, love you.

Speaker 1:

Goes to do a confession. I killed a man, but it was an accident. I've been having bad dreams and he murdered Barry and Helen. His name is Ben Willis.

Speaker 2:

Ben Willis, ben Willis.

Speaker 1:

I know. And then the priest is like I know, because I'm Ben Willis, I'm gonna kill you.

Speaker 2:

See, I assume the ending is just like that.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean? Yeah, stupid.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying it's not stupid, dan, I'm just saying she wakes up in class.

Speaker 1:

She's in class and having this nightmare. I'm like, wow, that's quite the nightmare to be having in class.

Speaker 2:

It's a deep nightmare to have in class. She is so deeply asleep right now, deeply asleep right now.

Speaker 1:

It's a little weird that no one woke her up. She runs out and then the boy Will follows her and she's like I'm fine, I'm fine. And then kids throw firecrackers at her and she goes. Oh my god.

Speaker 2:

I'm okay, because she's not fine.

Speaker 1:

Then she starts flirting with this guy's ass. This guy very attractive, Much more attractive than Freddie Prinze Jr. Sadly for him.

Speaker 2:

Hold on back up. That's incorrect, that is erroneous. You're saying it just to upset me. I can tell Listen, no, listen, dan, because when we cut to the island or not the island the boats. Where's the boats? What's the? Why can't I think of the name of the town? I feel bad. The boats on the coast, yeah, yes, yes, when he's working the boats and he's got that open, henley, oh my God, dream boat. Are you kidding me? Ten out of ten, if not more.

Speaker 1:

His name is Ray, they're still thinking about a crab boil and he can't go back. And he's got, oh, she calls him, I think. And then he's all like, oh, I can't come cause I got to work, and oh, I like the work, work is better than you.

Speaker 2:

He's a poor kid. You wouldn't know this if you watched the first one.

Speaker 1:

You know but he also has like a diamond ring and wants he, he, he pushes her away while while in his heart he thinks he wants to marry her. I, I'm not convinced boys are confusing.

Speaker 2:

All right, dan, uh, you know it's a little clunky, it's a little clunky, but they have to get it so that he's going to surprise her, but they're also not waiting for him. You know, it's a, it's a, it's a weird balance to try to nail and they didn't get it it was weird.

Speaker 1:

You know, you gotta, you gotta write some lines as to. You know where he's all like. Oh no, I gotta work. And then we find out that you know, here's your last, here's the paycheck. You need to go buy the ring to. You know where we, where there's some sort of stakes or?

Speaker 2:

or we just say he's just lying about having to work because he wants to surprise her the whole time. The whole thing is like she's she doesn't know, I'm coming, but I'm gonna surprise her with the ring, and then we're gonna go to jamaica, where they go bahamas, bahamas, uh, you know. So anything there's ways to do it. What they did doesn't make any sense because he's like god, you know what. There's even a line where he's like jealous. She invites him to the Bahamas and his response is oh, you can go away with your friends, but you won't go away with me. But she just invited you to go away. So that doesn't make any sense, guy Like that's not what happened just now in the movie that we saw.

Speaker 2:

So, his entire reaction is confusing. You got to set up like a flat tire or car problems or something, anything you just gotta do something like that where he's all like, well, I'm gonna get a surprise her.

Speaker 1:

You know, you just do the whole thing, but they don't but the good news is he acts.

Speaker 2:

It's so good that you believe it. You believe it anyhow, right dan, because he's no, so good bc.

Speaker 1:

I'm supposed to believe that he doesn't want to see her. Is that what you're?

Speaker 2:

saying he doesn't want to see her but he wants to marry her. You know Classic.

Speaker 1:

Classic back and forth. She's missing her dead friend Sarah Michelle Gellar. So what does she do? She rubs a photo of her with her hand.

Speaker 2:

I was going to ask you. I wrote this down Is this equivalent to someone kissing their loved one in a photo for you, or is this somehow?

Speaker 1:

not as big of a sin. It's the same I figured it would be Whenever you physically interact with a photograph of a person. No one does that. No one does that. No one's ever done it. It's movie.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, I don't want to burst your bubble here, dan, but I have a photo of you on my nightstand. I kiss it good night, every single night now you see that's different.

Speaker 1:

Wait that actually okay talk to me by that it's, it's the because it's you, it's the it's the fondling of photos and like the sexual interaction with a photo.

Speaker 2:

Well, when I say kiss, I'm saying People kiss photos goodnight.

Speaker 1:

They're like oh, my wife's not here, you know, my wife's been gone.

Speaker 2:

Kiss a photo goodnight, I'm open mouth kissing this thing, dan. Okay, I've got tongue marks all up and down your photo.

Speaker 1:

If you're kissing it in a sexual way, then you're a fucking weirdo and no one acts that way.

Speaker 2:

But if you're kissing it in a symbolic way it's like blowing someone a kiss.

Speaker 1:

Okay, blowing a kiss is perfectly fine. Okay, you accept a blown kiss but you don't accept me licking you up and down on the glass.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I understand.

Speaker 1:

It's not an embodiment of the person. It could be a basic symbolic like good night honey.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes I slide that photo under the cover, so I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 1:

I do not want to know how it got stained. She's keeping a knife on the bed stand. Oh, it's the night. It's night. She hears the door she's all like. Is that the door? She doesn't call out. Instead, she gets a knife, starts creeping around and then almost kills Brandy, her roommate, who thought that she was gone and was going through a closet.

Speaker 2:

But I'm a little confused because Brandy thought Jennifer Love Hewitt was gone. Yep, jennifer Love Hewitt never thought that Brandy was gone, right? So if anyone should be surprised, it would be Brandy. Yes, not the one wielding the knife.

Speaker 1:

They certainly did not set up that she actually had a roommate, right.

Speaker 2:

That's like a fake-out surprise, like wait you have a roommate, you should not be surprised, you know, when someone's coming home as a roommate.

Speaker 1:

You should not be surprised. You know when someone's coming home as a roommate, you should be like brandy. Is that you or?

Speaker 2:

did they unlock the door?

Speaker 1:

oh boy, yeah, using a key, yeah you know, there is someone in the world that has a key that is going to return there at night that is correct, because you both have the same keys.

Speaker 2:

You got them together when you moved in and probably in a little cute little envelope. That's how they do it out here.

Speaker 1:

It's like when your wife returned this morning after her failed air flight, you would not have tried to go and knife her to death because you didn't expect her to be there.

Speaker 2:

She did scare me, though, because I was asleep and she like came into the room and turned on a light and I was like what the fuck?

Speaker 1:

She came into the room while you were asleep and turned on a light.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's very dark.

Speaker 1:

Did she have a knife?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she had the knife and she was coming at me.

Speaker 1:

It was scary. Then they do a little girl talk and she's all like dump Ray. He's a piece of shit.

Speaker 2:

And I'm like Brand brandy, you're so right. No stand, listen. Okay, you're. Ray is misunderstood. Okay, he's a good guy. He's a good guy, he's doing his best cut to that night.

Speaker 1:

They're at the club. Ty, who we find out is, is carla's boyfriend. I did not. I did not see that coming. That he was because he was macking on all the ladies.

Speaker 2:

He was not he still does, Even when they get to the island. He's walking a foot in front of his girlfriend and is like checking out girls as they walk by. It's weird. It's a weird relationship. But it is Mekhi Pfeiffer, so you know I get it.

Speaker 1:

Boom, boom, boom. Ty's hitting on everyone. They're dancing. She sees the fisherman up on the second level goes up there. He's not there, will's there? Oh yeah, will's also there, and Brandy had set that up Good old Will. And then after she goes up there, she bumps into Will and then she leaves. She's like I'm out of here.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, because she's all scared and stuff.

Speaker 1:

Here. I'm out of here, okay yeah, cause she's all scared and stuff. Uh, here comes my favorite part of the movie, or one of my, one of the few things I liked in the movie.

Speaker 2:

Feels a little early, cause Freddie Prinze isn't in yet, but okay.

Speaker 1:

It's the morning, there's like this noise. They go to the, the, the washing, the dryer. Oh, brandy has put her shoes. She opens the thing and the shoes shoot directly out of it. I was like I can't. I want to live in a world where that happens.

Speaker 2:

And that's a real thing. It's the greatest thing I've ever seen. And she says I love it. When that happens, it's a thing that's happened before, but not every time for her, and I love it. They kind of do a callback to it, but they didn't do it right. Oh, they sure do Well, because the dead body should have shot out at her.

Speaker 1:

It should have just been a head.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And then she catches it in her hands, screams, drops the head.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, I don't understand why you put a scene that's so weird like that. You have a callback to it and you don't even understand your own joke.

Speaker 2:

We know the joke we both are watching the movie and we're like that's an easy joke, it's a pretty easy joke, and it would be a pretty good one too.

Speaker 1:

I'm not going to lie to you.

Speaker 2:

It would be pretty funny, the head it's the perfect blend of like scare and funny because it's a severed head. It's perfect, Cool man.

Speaker 1:

Boom shoes, severed head. You know, cool, it's perfect. Cool man. Boom shoes. In the dryer they get a phone call. It's the radio station calling and the radio station is. You got to answer this one question and you win, win a vacation. And the question is what? Is the capital of brazil, yeah, and immediately you go brazilia, like Because you're not an idiot, but we do so.

Speaker 2:

This was my question. So what year is this? 1999, I believe 1999. And when was the World Wide Web adapted? It's around the same time, right, or maybe early 2000s started exploding?

Speaker 1:

I have no idea. But I have two questions on it 2000 started exploding. I have no idea.

Speaker 2:

But I have two questions on it. One my question is were audiences supposed to believe that they gave the right answer?

Speaker 1:

It's such a weird thing, it's such a weird sort of tip that there's something sketchy going on. Because I was like 90% sure. I'm like I'm pretty sure it's Brasilia, and then she says Rio, and then the guy says correct, and I'm like that's right, it's like a half measure thing where you're kind of like that's weird, so you either have to, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

But I was thinking about it because when I first saw it I don't think that threw up a red flag for me. But again I'm in high school threw up a red flag for me. But again, did you know? Did you know it was brazilia this time? I did, but I don't. I feel like I probably didn't in the 90s. You know what I mean. Like the internet's not a thing, I I don't know, I was young.

Speaker 1:

I'm thinking most people would not know that, because it's kind of a weird capital and you know, it's changed, right like because it didn't.

Speaker 2:

I feel like. I feel like it used to be something I feel like rio was the capital, for a while.

Speaker 1:

No, they built brasilia and made it the capital. It might not be still the capital, I don't know I think it is still the capital. I'm like, I'm pretty positive anyhow, I, just I, it was weird.

Speaker 2:

It's a weird setup, because then later it felt like that was a twist where she was like that's not even the capital Wrong answer, we lose. And I was like, well, yeah, I know. So what's going on here? I don't know. It felt weird. So I just wasn't sure if it was like a pre-internet thing, where maybe people just weren't as new things about the world.

Speaker 2:

Maybe then I don't know and I mean we're not we're not even like 100, like we're pretty sure, but we're not like yes, that's exactly right. So I don't know, it was weird. It was a weird choice, I think yeah, just a yeah.

Speaker 1:

Uh, she calls ray race, doesn't you know, says he can't go. Um, then he's to surprise her. So he takes his scruffy friend and then they're going to drive there. On their drive, they encounter A car stopped in the road.

Speaker 2:

Well, but first they are singing some Whitesnake and it's great.

Speaker 1:

There's a couple good songs in this movie.

Speaker 2:

For sure.

Speaker 1:

This was back when a movie like this Could afford to buy a couple of A number of decent songs for their soundtrack yeah, for sure. I'm okay with this. He gets out, he goes over there. The body's a mannequin. Then the hook guy. What?

Speaker 2:

That's a callback to the first one, by the way, so you probably didn't understand it. But Sarah Michelle Gellar works in like a store and there's a whole mannequin scene where he hides as a mannequin. It's great, it's a great scene. This one's not a great scene, but it is a callback. So it's like hey, you remember the first one where there was mannequins, you got a mannequin, you know.

Speaker 1:

So the hook guy kills his friend, gets in his truck and tries to run him down with his own truck. He falls aside a road and gets knocked unconscious. I have a question. The murderer decides to just leave or something, and then decides the best thing is to hide the body, hide all evidence of everything, and also not to kill the person that he wants to kill.

Speaker 2:

Right. Also, just as like a general tip, here's a hot tip If someone's trying to run you over, run straight down the road. Run straight down the road.

Speaker 1:

Run straight down the road.

Speaker 2:

And they're also going slow enough where you can run ahead of it. For two, three minutes it felt like maybe Just go off the side of the road, just run somewhere else, don't run on the pavement. That's just a hot tip everybody.

Speaker 1:

That's where they have the dolly. Set up is on the road, so yeah, the rough terrain would be harder.

Speaker 2:

The dolly itself would be bad, so the camera would look terrible.

Speaker 1:

I get it so Ray is incapacitated. Okay, that's good. That's finally something positive is happening in the movie you shut your mouth.

Speaker 2:

You shut your mouth in the morning.

Speaker 1:

Ray's not there, will shows up. Ty shows up with will, because he knew he wasn't going to show up. So they all, knew they all knew he's untrustworthy or something uh will is afraid of flying. Uh, for some reason that doesn't ever come back, and uh ty does not appreciate that he's afraid of flying.

Speaker 2:

Right. And then they flip it where Makai is that he can't do water and Will does water. I don't understand. They're just jokes.

Speaker 1:

Also, they're not jokes, because they're not funny.

Speaker 2:

And then, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1:

And then he's barfing and we're like well, that's a character trait that's never going to come back in the movie and never get used.

Speaker 2:

No, sure didn't, Sure didn't my friend.

Speaker 1:

We meet Derek, who's kind of the dockhand guy. We meet Titus, who is Jack Black the drug guy.

Speaker 2:

Beautiful.

Speaker 1:

And then we meet a maid who, like freakily, ignores them for an unknowable reason, and that we thought that she was a ghost, maybe at first.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

We meet the front desk guy. He's somebody, he's some character actor.

Speaker 2:

He's definitely someone we've seen before. I should have looked it up. I didn't, but he is a recognizable face.

Speaker 1:

Low rent. Will Arnett Type God. I love Will Arnett. He's super big dick for no reason. He's addicted for no reason. And we find out that this is actually storm season. The season is ended, the storm season has begun. The rain is going to begin imminently. They could have set this up perfectly at the beginning of the movie. It had everybody getting on to the boat as as they got off, and then look at you know, yeah, everyone's leaving and like what's going on here everybody you know, you could have done a really nice setup with that.

Speaker 1:

They of course did not do that it's more fun to just say it.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean, just like have a character say it, instead of show anything. You don't understand movies, dan that.

Speaker 1:

I think that's the problem with this and they're in 201 and 202 and those are the big spooky rooms where something happened. But it doesn't matter that something happened I didn't understand well, the were they. The fisherman lived in that room, or somebody. The fisherman killed his wife in that room, or something right, but that seems pretty weird, right. I mean it's a setup.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's a setup, but it doesn't track with what happened in the first movie with his whole setup. His whole setup is his. Like someone killed themselves and he blamed. His daughter killed herself. I don't know. Someone killed themselves or he killed someone that broke someone's heart or something Like it has nothing to do with his wife already being murdered. Like he was on a revenge scheme before he even got hit wait, so he.

Speaker 1:

So the daughter was killed in the first movie I can't remember.

Speaker 2:

No, she's not. She's not dead in the first. But the first movie opens with a young man, uh, egan, I don't remember his full name. It's been a while I I mean it's only been July 4th. It's been 10 days since I see this movie and I already forgot. But his name is something Egan, and he is drinking on a cliff and he's all sad because I think that the girl died or something, or she broke up with one of the two. I don't know. But he's going to kill himself and decides you think he decides not to and then gets hit by the car. That's what you think happens. What really happened is Ben Willis kills that guy and then walks into the road and gets hit. So he was already killing on a revenge streak before this started. But that has nothing to do with him killing his wife. It's weird, wow, okay, I don't. But that has nothing to do with him killing his wife. It's weird, wow, okay.

Speaker 1:

I don't know it just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2:

I was very confused. Also, he's a fisherman, like what's he doing in the Bahamas?

Speaker 1:

Well, that's where you got to start.

Speaker 2:

As a psychopath as a psychopath as a psychopath, okay Well, yeah, I don't know, it was confusing.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, yeah, he can easily. Well, he's not going to be. He's like the Gorton's fisherman, he's not like a real fisherman.

Speaker 2:

No, that's probably true.

Speaker 1:

He's like up in the Cape Cod kind of fisherman.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's who wears that shit you know, like a fisherman in the bahamas is not gonna.

Speaker 1:

You know that if you're a fisherman in the bahamas, what you would likely do is you take rich people out there. You know, take them out fishing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yep, show them how to fish you know, like big one jaws.

Speaker 1:

That's what quint does, quint takes people.

Speaker 2:

That's a good movie too. We watched that on july 4th as.

Speaker 1:

We'll talk about that later. Ray's in the hospital and then we hear some people talking about it. He said his friend died and we're like wait, he seems unconscious, but supposedly he gave all this information and then fell asleep or something.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. And then they were like when he wakes up, maybe he'll be more lucid. And I was like what? What are you talking? So is he wakes? When he wakes up, maybe he'll be more lucid. And I was like what is what do you talk? So is he like sleep talking?

Speaker 1:

yeah, it's like half past, my friend died. My friend died. There's a hook man. I don't know, it doesn't make any sense, it's so weird. Um, and then he, he just flees out the window, he, just he fucks off to you know is that even necessary?

Speaker 2:

like you could probably just walk out, I don't think they can hold you there, right, because? He's not under suspicion of anything.

Speaker 1:

They have to show the level of desperation.

Speaker 2:

Okay, but I think, like you can check yourself out of a hospital, I don't think they can like legally hold you there. I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 1:

Unless they're going to put you on a psych hold. They cannot hold you there.

Speaker 2:

Sure, well, that's right. He was talking about an imaginary friend who was murdered by a hook man.

Speaker 1:

So there it is. Then they meet. I guess that's right. The boys are at the bar, the bartender talks about shooting her boyfriend.

Speaker 2:

Like what Her name is.

Speaker 1:

Nancy. And then they start doing karaoke. And here comes Jennifer loves who it's Julie, she cannot sing.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that's so rude Dan.

Speaker 1:

I'm a singer, I gauge these things. I'm a singer.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so I can judge it. Who cares? She looks great doing it.

Speaker 1:

And then the machine says to her I know what you did last summer, so the karaoke machine. And that's got to be in her head right.

Speaker 2:

How would you even do that?

Speaker 1:

Cause he programmed it. What we're gonna find out is this whole thing is an elaborate.

Speaker 2:

Ruse to draw them here.

Speaker 1:

To kill her For unknowable reasons. She could have just killed her, is there?

Speaker 2:

no extradition in the Bahamas. Maybe Like is this Esau. Scott free. If they kill her there, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I don't know I wrote. Freaks out and leaves. Oh, okay, she freaks out after she sees that she goes there. There's a note in the room that has her name on it. She's freaking out because of that.

Speaker 2:

Because it looks like the notes from the first one. The handwriting looks the same. See the handwriting looks the same.

Speaker 1:

See, that's the thing.

Speaker 2:

Probably because it is the same.

Speaker 1:

See, you can't do that because I haven't seen the first one.

Speaker 2:

Well, dan, I'm sorry, I should have made you watch both no, but that's not the point.

Speaker 1:

If you make a movie, you have to instill new stakes in the movie. You can't be just like Well sure. She has to say something like oh shit, this is just like that one I got in the other movie. She's got to say that.

Speaker 2:

I hope she does say that in the previous film that we made.

Speaker 1:

She opens it, it says surprise, and then boom, will is in her room somehow.

Speaker 2:

Creepy Will.

Speaker 1:

You're like wait a second and then we hear the other two having sex in the room next door.

Speaker 2:

but they're not having sex. You think they're having sex. She's jumping on the bed.

Speaker 1:

So somehow she has. She has fled from karaoke, gone back to this room. Will has chased after him, ready to go in, and the two of them.

Speaker 2:

He must've ran full speed, yup, and then they were somehow just teleported into mid sex.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what is happening.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the time jump is weird, because she definitely ran away, but then everyone is already back. I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

And then he says I want you to be happy so I'll leave, and I'm like that's the way to make her happy, maybe if all you men stop leaving her alone. Well, not going to happen, though. You know what I mean. We do a whole thing. Yes, so we thought there were sex noises, but it's just Brandy jumping on the bed, because she's never been on a bed as soft as this bed, or bouncy as this bed.

Speaker 2:

It's something. Yeah, I know she wants to buy it, so she's going to go to Wall Street. I don't think you need to go to Wall Street to buy a big bed. You know what I mean? Wall Street's. You want a big house to then put the big bed in.

Speaker 1:

Big bed, big house.

Speaker 2:

You can get a big bed, especially now. Just use Klarna and spend a year paying it off. You're fine.

Speaker 1:

Klarna.

Speaker 2:

Don't know what that is what's the other one Affinity Is that the other? I can't remember. There's ways that you can pay things down.

Speaker 1:

Klarna. She talks about putting on a bathing suit. Boom, Now we cut to. Derek is on the dock. This boat has drifted away. He's trying to pull it in. Titus shows up and is like let's take that boat to the mainland and get freaky. Very weird. He then falls in and then he gets killed. Question mark.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I guess yeah, because you know, jack Black stops on the bridge because he thinks he hears something, and then he takes a little puff puff and fucks off.

Speaker 1:

Weed ruins everything.

Speaker 2:

These are the dangers of doing drugs. You'll never know if someone's getting murdered by you.

Speaker 1:

You never know what's happening when you're on drugs. Anything could be it, because you might be hallucinating.

Speaker 2:

all the good things or the bad You're doing shrooms Careful.

Speaker 1:

Careful Shrooms. Ray tries to call the resort. No one answers House. The housekeeping lady is doing housekeeping at midnight in an empty hotel that everyone has left.

Speaker 2:

Seems a little weird, right, because we know that it's off season, so she could literally do it any time, or not do it, or not do it. You could not do it for probably two, three months, I assume. Is the season Very strange, doesn't make any sense at all.

Speaker 1:

Reaches in her cart. There's blood on the sheet in her cart. That's already there. Yeah, I think she didn't notice when she took the sheet off of a bed covered in blood that there was blood, but then she just.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes it's hard to see. Then she gets killed by the hook guy because yeah, but it's cool because her dead body's on the ground and then he hooks her in the back and just lifts her limp body and carries her off. Great stuff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's great. It's great, it's great. Man, ty and Carla trying to have sexy time in the pool, but she's missing her hair tie. We're going to find out that there's a character, Estes, who's a voodoo guy who steals stuff from everyone, except the only thing we ever hear about having having is this hair tie?

Speaker 2:

so they cut out all the other stealing things and it's the most important one, dan okay, because she needs it for the pool so when they discover it, they're all like, oh, look at all this stuff we lost. And you're like especially the hair tie, because she doesn't want to mess up her hair.

Speaker 1:

Hair very beautiful, I get it.

Speaker 2:

No, that makes perfect sense. You're not supposed to get it wet you know, then Titus swims Jack. Black comes up. Yeah, great stuff.

Speaker 1:

And then, as soon as he swims away, then Will shows up, and then you know, poor Ty is just like.

Speaker 2:

Poor Mackay Fiver, just real upset.

Speaker 1:

This is not my day. Julie's finishing her shower, she calls for Will, she looks in the closet and boom, there's the dead body of Derek bleeding everywhere. She goes to reception.

Speaker 2:

Tough stuff.

Speaker 1:

They come back and the body is gone.

Speaker 2:

But not just the body right. There's no blood anywhere. That's a fast cleanup job Like that is good. They got some hardcore cleaners spraying stuff scrubbing it down real quick.

Speaker 1:

Great, great work I've only had to clean up a lot of blood one time and it was on like a, you know, on like a linoleum floor, and it cleaned up pretty well sure, sure but this was wood. But right, I have to imagine that's not gonna clean, even if it's not going to clean up easily, even if it's like the faux wood.

Speaker 2:

What is that? Vinyl? I don't know if that was big back in the days, but this looks It'd get in the cracks.

Speaker 1:

This is just a cupboard. This is, you know, it's a whatever they call those things a wardrobe.

Speaker 2:

No, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Ward no, yeah, yeah, wardrobe. Yeah, lying the witch. Okay, front desk guy. Now he's getting very angry at them. You kids telling stories.

Speaker 2:

Hey man, that's annoying, you know coming into my off season with my marginally trained staff, which is a great line we didn't talk about.

Speaker 1:

Did he say that? Did he say he had a marginally trained staff?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he said they were marginally trained when he was explaining that it was off-season. It was a good line.

Speaker 1:

Everyone's there. Jennifer loves you. It's like I got to get out of here. And he's like there's no phones, there's no boats, you're just going to have to ride it out. And she's like what about a radio?

Speaker 2:

And all like, yeah, I don't think so, nah, I wouldn't worry about a radio we cut to Estes.

Speaker 1:

I think this is the first time we meet Estes. He's doing voodoo. Yeah, I'm like we needed to kind of set him up a little bit before he's automatically doing voodoo.

Speaker 2:

You meet him when he's delivering the bags.

Speaker 1:

You're right.

Speaker 2:

He did the bags.

Speaker 1:

So the bad guy's doing voodoo. Okay, back. So the bad guy's doing voodoo. Titus goes back to his room, checks on his plants.

Speaker 2:

They grew up real good I wrote bony time.

Speaker 1:

Why did I write bony time?

Speaker 2:

Bony time, maybe because you're so into Jack Black.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, maybe the fisherman's outside. He hooks Jack in the hand and then he goes and gets like what are those wheat cutters? What are they cleavers?

Speaker 2:

no, they're not cleavers, the meat thing, those are hedge trimmers but they're big hedge trimmers.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, big hedge trimmers and hedge trimmers.

Speaker 2:

Him in the head I'm like he doesn't hedge trimmer so here's my problem that's a spear he just stabs him yeah like he goes down this like line of tools that he could use, grabs a very specific tool that you could have some fun with you know chompy, chompy but just stabs him.

Speaker 1:

There's a little, there's a bit of a letdown we got back to the race storyline because you know it, it is.

Speaker 2:

It is great uh, it is riveting you, son of a bitch.

Speaker 1:

He goes in. He's in this weird town. He goes to the pawn shop. Another character actor guy We've seen in lots of stuff he's like yeah.

Speaker 2:

What do you give me?

Speaker 1:

for this ring and the guy's like, hey, 300. And he's like 300 and this gun. And then he gets the gun out and he's all like, okay, and you gotta load the gun.

Speaker 2:

For me it's like load it like great, that's a great line.

Speaker 1:

Don't knock it, dan come on no, there's no pawn shop owner in the world. Oh yeah, the pawn shop owners. There's a waiting period.

Speaker 2:

He's like no like no, thanks, don't want to do that. He's like, yeah, good point, good point. Bud, here's some bullets, here you go. Especially he comes in beat up already. So, like you definitely know, he's going to go shoot someone who just messed him up.

Speaker 1:

It's yeah, no, that's a hard no that's not the person you sell a gun to without any background check or anything like a psycho off the streets. And then you're like well, let me load this gun so you can shoot me and take back your shoot me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like, I'll load it, I'll cock it and I'll hand it to you. You do whatever you want to do, pal.

Speaker 1:

Oh God, it was bad. So everyone decides to sleep in one bed.

Speaker 2:

That's actually a little comedic. There's a little comedic scene.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's cute Come on when over Ty or something, and he gets pissed off.

Speaker 2:

He sure is Got his hand like on his cheek. Yeah, it's great, great stuff.

Speaker 1:

Kind of funny. It's the morning Ty is mad at Julie, because Ty's mad at everyone, because he's not having sex.

Speaker 2:

He's not getting any. He's getting real sexually frustrated.

Speaker 1:

The boys go out in the rain, the girls go to the gym. Carla is kickboxing, which we're like oh, I mean she's gonna kickbox someone later in the movie. Nope, nope, nah, and she's pretty, pretty badass. Julie is sad, so they decide to go get julia tan. They um yeah, what?

Speaker 2:

and this such a weird line when they go in. I don't remember exactly what they say, but but at one point Brandy's like no, no, this is the safe son, Get in there. That sort of thing I was like boy, how wrong we were.

Speaker 1:

Those aren't safe, oh really.

Speaker 2:

You're just pumping UV rays into your body. That is still very cancerous, my friends. Very bad for you.

Speaker 1:

You just do it to young people. The Very cancerous, my friends. Very bad for you. You just do it to young people. The sooner we get rid of them, the better the world will be. Oh boy, it's all there. Oh boy, carbon emissions and shit. Yeah, I get so tired of everybody's carbon emissions. Okay, carla goes to the laundry. Finds some dead person in the laundry. Who was that the maid? I couldn't tell.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't tell it might have been the maid. She's all the person's all like contortionized, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

The bad guys move the bodies around a lot, constantly moving bodies.

Speaker 2:

They love it. They're weird, they're a little freaky, dan. I'll tell you that Because, there, they're a little freaky Dan. I'll tell you that Because at one point at the end, when he's like, imagine all the things we're going to do to her. So you know that it's not good. They're doing stuff with dead bodies.

Speaker 1:

The boys find Titus's dead body. Okay, so now everybody's got somebody dead. So I guess this was the two scenes where everybody gets on board.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're all in agreement. Somebody's killing people.

Speaker 1:

The bad guy goes in and zip, ties Julie into the bed and then turns the tanning bed to kill.

Speaker 2:

They can't break the zip tie. Were you ashamed at that? I was a little ashamed at that. Well, hold on, we're not there yet.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, sorry, she starts screaming and freaking out like the most freak out freak out that you've ever freaked out. Maybe she's claustrophobic. Would you do that? Would you freak out?

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I don't freak out. I've told you my non-freak out story.

Speaker 2:

My non-frequent when I was in the.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I could open it when I was in the lava tube. You know, I told you that story right did you lava tube?

Speaker 2:

is it? Is it hot?

Speaker 1:

I was in. Where was that? I was in the galapagos islands, which were, which are like volcanic islands yeah, and you go to. You go out in the middle of nowhere and there's, like this, lava tube you get to walk through right Right.

Speaker 2:

No, this does sound familiar.

Speaker 1:

So I walked through it and then my flashlight failed, and so I was literally pitch dark.

Speaker 2:

There's no light anywhere.

Speaker 1:

I had to crawl over rocks to get out, and you know how scared I got.

Speaker 2:

Not at all Pretty scared?

Speaker 1:

No, I was not scared, I bet, if we checked the tapes, tapes dan had tears rolling down his face help me not, but I was just like well, don't have any other options if I and I guess I gotta do it nothing, you know, I mean nothing lived down there, because you know which is good.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because can you imagine if something crawled over your hand as you were like walk or moving? Oh, that would be scary, that could have freaked me out, but nothing vomited.

Speaker 1:

I just crawled over your hand as you were like walking or moving. Oh, that would be scary. That could have freaked me out, but not that one. I just crawled for 15 minutes, 20 minutes and I was out.

Speaker 2:

That's a long time to crawl.

Speaker 1:

It was very underground, okay, so you know you're just like you're getting a tan. You're going to. You know, yell, help, hey, help Hey's. She is the most freaked out. She is in the whole movie well, skin cancer is a killer. There it is tony's afraid um, then the boys hear the screaming and so they go and save carla first. They save carla first. Yeah, that was kind of funny. That was a good fake out I was like oh it's carla okay well, she's easier to get to.

Speaker 2:

They just open the window and she crawls on out and then they save julie they find sort of like they have to smash the machine to break a zip tie. It's kind of weird. I don't. Zip ties aren't that strong yeah, they're are they? I feel like I can break one no, you could not not chance.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna break it I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 2:

Let send me a zip tie, dan. I'm gonna break it. I'm going to do it. Send me a zip tie, dan. I'm going to break it right in front of you. I'm just going to.

Speaker 1:

The other funny thing is there's like a three, four-inch gap.

Speaker 2:

You know, so you can see her writhing in there as opposed to what would.

Speaker 1:

You wouldn't really be able to see Julie. So they find the manager. He's dead, the radio's broken and covered in blood. Julie freaks out, she runs to the doc and then she's like well, I gotta tell you why this is all happening. And she tells him the story and then Brandy gets mad. She's all like what yo?

Speaker 2:

bro, I'm your best friend. Yeah, why don't I know that all this? I don't know what she knows exactly, but she didn't know, she knows about the hook guy. She knows she. So what I can tell, what I gathered from context clues, is that she knows that jul, someone tried to kill Julie. I don't think that Julie told everyone that she murdered somebody with a car, oh no, threw him into the ocean hoping that he was dead, and then he came back to try to kill them. I don't think she told him that part.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're correct, ray's on a bus. This old lady looks at him and is like this is such a weird scene. Uh, ray's on a bus.

Speaker 2:

This old lady looks at him, is like we just needed some sort of interstitial here just to get to the next scene. This is a nothing, you know. What I do respect, though, in this, is that ray, our soft, sweet boy, took a pill and then, you know, took a swig of water. He didn't dry, dry swallow that pill, you know, because he's not a badass, he's just like a lovely guy. He's just like you and me, dan. You know he needs a little wah-wah with his pills.

Speaker 1:

Oh, he's such a baby. They go to Estes' room. They see all his voodoo stuff. They find all their missing stuff that they didn't know was missing.

Speaker 2:

But now they find out that it's missing, they immediately think he's the killer. Is this racist at all? I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I buy it, I would think he was the killer.

Speaker 2:

Sure, sure, I would think he's the killer.

Speaker 1:

I would think he's trying to protect me. But then, I think Jennifer Love Hewitt sees a globe and then she realizes that Brasilia is the capital of Brazil and she's all like and then they were like wait, there was a guy in the oh. Somebody says there was a guy in the forest who used to work here.

Speaker 2:

Wait, does Estes come back?

Speaker 1:

No Wait, how do we know?

Speaker 2:

Yes, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

One of them says how do you know that? How do we know that? You didn't set this all up? And then he kind of tells him these things. Then he's going to start telling them the story of what happened. Yeah, so I guess there was a guy and he had a wife and he's not happy with the wife, and they had two children, a boy and a girl. And then this is immediately when I'm like, okay, there's a boy and a girl, okay, so the boy is Will, yeah, and the girl is Nancy the bartender.

Speaker 2:

Wrong Girl's dead. She's dead in the first one, Dan.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you see, how was I supposed to know that?

Speaker 2:

You don't know that. Well, also we don't know that, because we don't know that it's the same person quite yet. But yeah, I pretty I'm, I should re-watch it tonight, but I'm pretty sure she, she gone see.

Speaker 1:

So I was like who? The person who's going to be at the end is going to be the, the sister, the sister make.

Speaker 2:

I get it. That does make sense and I love that. See, so they're.

Speaker 1:

That's not what happened they're giving us information, they gotta say he had a daughter. The daughter died, but the boy is still alive. And then we're like oh, of course we know the boys either. Sure. Yeah, then we know Either Ty or, and what would have been funny is if it was Ty or you know it could have been a double boss.

Speaker 2:

The DB, yeah, ooh, I don't know Too much.

Speaker 1:

It's Will and everybody knows it's Will.

Speaker 2:

Yes, he's pretty good at the switch though.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. That one line was kind of creepy. Yeah, in a movie where there are no creepy lines, the one creepy line delivery by a bad guy, as a bad guy feels like he's a bad guy, I'm like, okay, yeah, that's great Good for you, guy. We did an hour and 20 minutes of this movie and then we finally had someone say something like they were a bad guy as opposed to them just doing the most boring kills known to mankind.

Speaker 2:

The kills aren't great. I'm not going to argue with you. I can't. I can't argue it, it would be wrong oh.

Speaker 1:

Jesus Ray uses his gun to make a guy give him a boat right.

Speaker 2:

He doesn't take the gun yeah, that's my favorite scene. He doesn't yeah, that's my favorite scene.

Speaker 1:

He doesn't well, I mean he does kind of steal it like in the end. I mean he doesn't force that guy to drive the boat no, because he's a boatsman, which is not the right word uh, he would know how to do a boat, wouldn't he?

Speaker 2:

yeah, yeah, because he, he does fishing boats back home. Oh okay, um, and this, yeah, this is my favorite scene in the movie. I'm not looking for a weather report, I'm looking for a boat. Boom pulls out the gun. That's a great scene. Bad ass. I love Freddy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, bad acting correct.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god.

Speaker 1:

Okay, this is the back story. They get to the graves Because they're going to the graves for a graves reason and there's a grave for Julie and then Will runs off to find and then Estes escapes and then Will runs off to follow Estes, I'm like because he's the stupid son, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Go and get knives.

Speaker 1:

Estes has a little boat that she's going to try to escape from and Will is going to stop him. And then they fight. We're like, oh, they're fighting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he lost.

Speaker 1:

Who lost? Estes lost. Yeah, yeah, Estes. Yeah, they get to the pantry. There's a rat and then Nancy hits Ty a bunch. Everyone yells why did she hit Ty a bunch? I don't remember.

Speaker 2:

Because she thought that he was the killer, because he found her hiding spot, which was just like the freezer or whatever.

Speaker 1:

Oh, Nancy the bartender yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Okay, then this is the point at which, somehow, the fisherman is in the pantry up high, don't overthink it, dan.

Speaker 2:

It's a great line, it's wonderful. Don't overthink it, dan. It's a great line, it's wonderful. I haven't seen a psycho killer. Boom One's in your neck, bro.

Speaker 1:

Great stuff, people love it. The girls run, I wrote he does have a hook hand because Tony lied to me.

Speaker 2:

I didn't lie. I think you misunderstood. We should watch the tape back. I think you misunderstood. Dan he hooks at Carla.

Speaker 1:

She does a jump and she ends up on top of the greenhouse, and then it starts cracking and she eventually falls through.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, here's the thing she stepped right in the middle of the glass plates. That's of course going to affect her, but I like that.

Speaker 1:

This was one of the few scenes that I was like oh, someone's being chased and things are going badly.

Speaker 2:

They, they did go badly, you're right about that um, and then the she's in the greenhouse.

Speaker 1:

The greenhouse is, the locks are chained shut. The doors are chained shut because it's greenhouse. Don't want people getting in the greenhouse during a storm.

Speaker 2:

It's storm season, okay, can't go into a glass house. That's how you get dead.

Speaker 1:

Here comes the bad guy, and then they're trying to find the right key for the lock. We can't find the key. We can't find the key. Yeah, keep looking. Keep looking, and then Jennifer Love Hewitt goes and gets the fire axe and fire axes through the thing and they pull her through and he hook hands her shoe. No, he's got a hook hand. Let's mangle her ankle. There's got to be blood shooting out of that ankle.

Speaker 2:

It's got to be hideous. No, we need her to be able to run. Okay, no impediments.

Speaker 1:

They run, they run to the storm shelter. In the storm shelter. That's where they moved all the bodies, for a noble reason.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Again, this is like. It is like kind of like the first one. The first one he hides everyone in his ice chest on the boat. So she hides in the ice chest and then she discovers all the bodies hidden in the ice, which all makes sense. It's a discovery that makes sense. Yes, yeah, and this one's just like well, let's do the same thing, but you know, we don't really know how to do it, so just put them all in a room.

Speaker 1:

So this movie is basically just following the beats from the first movie, but just doing it randomly to no effect.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, that is correct. Yeah, that's why it's a great film. It's great. It's a good movie.

Speaker 1:

So Will shows up, it's like maybe we shouldn't stay here. They go back to the hotel, they split up. Carla goes off with Nancy and then Will is there with Jennifer Love Hewitt and she's all like you've got blood on you. And then he's like it's not my blood.

Speaker 2:

It's not my blood. Great stuff, yeah, come on. That must have been the audition scene, you know.

Speaker 1:

That was a good line. Nailed it. He does nail that line. Give him that.

Speaker 2:

Give him that. Well, how nice.

Speaker 1:

Then he's all like, oh, now she gets it. And then he's like, what's your favorite radio?

Speaker 2:

station. What's your favorite radio station, julie? Great stuff. Yeah, yeah, your voice actually sounds like him. Thank you, that was really nice, because does he sound like a Muppet as well?

Speaker 1:

Were you doing an impression of him when you said the line?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was doing his radio voice. Do it again, I don't know. Do it again. I can't do it again, I lost it. What's your favorite radio station, julie? Can't do it. Wow, you sounded like him. You actually sound like him.

Speaker 1:

I practiced all day. You actually sound like him. That's really weird. Carla and Nancy run into Estes the fisherman, then killed, but Estes has a spear through him, so then they kill Nancy with the spear that was stuck through Estes.

Speaker 2:

It's almost a decent kill, almost cool. It was almost cool. I think there was some nice kernels of an idea there. I think the execution was a little poor. But you know you tried once they tried. So you know, good for you, I guess, I don't know. You gotta make cool kills, because if your movie's not scary it has to be fun, that's good. Right, it has to be one or the other. If you're doing a horror movie, and this one's kind of neither-ish but I mean it leans more fun. But you need those kills, you need the kills, I want the kills. Give me the kills.

Speaker 1:

Will carries off Julie. Julie stabs him one time. They get to the graveside and the fisherman comes up and he's like hi dad Hi dad. His name is Will Benson, which is a play on I'm.

Speaker 2:

Ben's son. I mean unbelievable. Now that's a twist, don't you get it, julie Benson? Benson, it's the dumbest thing. If I read that in a script, I'd be like, oh shit, can we change this line please?

Speaker 1:

This, it was dopey, I love it um, they're about to kill jennifer love hewitt. Here comes ray with the gun, pointing the gun at everybody working and everybody's like you're too afraid, you're not a killer, that's my job. And then ray, because cause he sucks, he's such an idiot. It doesn't work. So he has to hand fight with will.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, just tackle him.

Speaker 1:

And then the dad go very well. The dad accidentally hooks his own son.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's great. That's a great little scene, you know.

Speaker 1:

And then Jennifer Love Hewitt finds the gun and doesn't jam for her and she puts five bullets right into Benson.

Speaker 2:

Right in his chest.

Speaker 1:

And then he falls in the grave.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, falls right in, just fucking die and then falls in the grave. It's beautiful, it's poetic.

Speaker 1:

I love it. That's the one part of the movie I like Trish yelling at him.

Speaker 2:

Sure now can you imagine if there were cool kills all the way throughout the movie and then you ended on that one. It'd be, that'd be great.

Speaker 1:

You know what the you know, tony, we don't talk about this enough in this show. Okay, is that? Um, if these terrible movies were just good movies, they'd be good movies. I mean, isn't that something you know? You kind of want to go to the hollywood people and say, why don't you just make this a terrible movie?

Speaker 2:

Why don't you just try a little harder? Just a little. Just a little harder, you could do it.

Speaker 1:

Have you ever listened to Jack Black's speech about writing the Superman movie? No, no, not at all. You should watch it. It's on YouTube. It's like for some reason it's in two parts, but it's like about 15 minutes and like he had some riz after making Clerks and maybe the second one too.

Speaker 1:

And they called him in to read their current Superman script because he was starting to work on. You know, do some work on scripts. What was the thing where we watched where the guy was talking about how he wrote Bad Boys 2? Who was that? It was somebody really weird. It was like I don't know, it was one of the Saturday Night Live people. I think it was really interesting.

Speaker 1:

The people that they would have do rewrites Uncredited work on these movies that became huge movies and they like wrote all those jokes. Yeah, it's neither here nor there, Point being is Right.

Speaker 2:

Kevin Smith gets called into Superman. What happened? And?

Speaker 1:

then he goes, you know, he reads the current one and then he comes back and he's all like this is shit and the one guy's this is terrible.

Speaker 2:

This he's all like this is shit, and the one guy's terrible.

Speaker 1:

This is a bad script, guys. And then the one guy's like okay, okay, thanks, thanks, thanks. Then he leaves, and then they call him the next day and they're like can you come back in and slowly?

Speaker 2:

Do you want to write it?

Speaker 1:

Eventually he does.

Speaker 2:

He does work on it.

Speaker 1:

But each time he comes he has to talk to the next higher level guy and tell them what a shit script it is and it's very funny. And then he eventually works with john peters on trying to write a script and it's yeah, it's very, very funny and one of the things that made a lot of people really, I think this little bit made kevin smith. You know the legendary figure that he became you know it's, it's just so fascinating, how stupid Hollywood is.

Speaker 2:

I'll have to find that and watch his little spiel.

Speaker 1:

He's dead. They walk back to the resort and, of course, now it's full daylight, it's gone from being nighttime to being and rainy right. Was it still rainy or had the rain let?

Speaker 2:

up. Rain has gone. No, no, at the night, I mean at nighttime. It was still raining at nighttime, right? Maybe I can't remember if it was raining in the grave scene or not?

Speaker 1:

It was definitely raining when he's dragging her to the grave, I don't remember if it was still raining?

Speaker 2:

I don't remember. If it was still raining. Yeah, I don't remember either.

Speaker 1:

Shoot yeah Ten minutes later, full daylight Coast Guard helicopter, carla is alive.

Speaker 2:

Great.

Speaker 1:

They go back home. Julie has bought a house. She's living with Ray, she's brushing her teeth and then the fisherman's under the bed and drags her.

Speaker 2:

Hold on. This is my favorite scene. Dan Cut into the movie. Nope, not cut.

Speaker 1:

Let's talk about this real quick, because Freddie Prinze shows that he should be in more of the movie.

Speaker 2:

Your favorite scene's gotta be the bus scene where the old lady looks at him. No, I don't get that scene. I don't know why it's in the movie. It doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 1:

That's what I love about this. It's like making a college movie where you're just like, well, just do stuff in every scene.

Speaker 2:

Just put something in it. Yeah, I don't know, just do something.

Speaker 1:

Maybe somebody will think it means something.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't.

Speaker 1:

Spoiler alert Doesn't mean nothing, so he's brushing his teeth right.

Speaker 2:

And then Julie goes to bed and he leans out the door mouth full of toothpaste. He's like don't you dare go to sleep, girl. Great line Loved that. And then he's just brushing his teeth and he looks at his toothbrush and he goes. I love this thing, my two favorite moments of the whole movie. And I was like Freddie Prinze needs to be in this whole movie, the whole movie. He's the best part of this movie. What, what's happening? Dan, Did you not watch this scene? This scene is so charming. Okay, God, I feel bad for you.

Speaker 1:

I watched this other guy that reviews movies and his review is exactly the same as yours, where he's all like it's not a good movie, but I'm so nostalgic for it. I just like to look at the people that I loved when I was a small dumb child.

Speaker 2:

I still love them to this day. It's not nostalgia, it's present-day love. You know what I'm?

Speaker 1:

saying See that's. It's not nostalgia, it's present day love. You know what I'm saying? See, that's the thing. No, but you knew when you saw this movie. It was a terrible movie, but now you're like we love this movie well no, you did not love this movie when you first saw it.

Speaker 2:

No, the first one I love. Yes, I like unironically love that movie the only time this movie is silly and stupid and you were not happy with it.

Speaker 1:

When you saw it in the movie theater the first time, you weren't probably not, probably not you told me, you weren't but who's but what?

Speaker 2:

is what I'm saying, but when it came, you know. When it's a home dvd, you know, maybe it's been a long time since I've seen this movie yes, and this is this is the absolute first time that you're saying you like this movie probably.

Speaker 1:

I would say probably, yeah, but in other words, this movie, even being a terrible movie, still rubs enough of those those little, those little pleasure centers in your brain from the 90s when you're like nugs. Oh yeah, because because you're never gonna get that pleasure from any movie that they're ever gonna put out again that's probably true. Yeah, except Psycho Gorman, which is the greatest movie ever.

Speaker 2:

Psycho Gorman was fantastic, great film. If you still haven't seen it, everybody go get that right now.

Speaker 1:

I still got to finish it.

Speaker 2:

My hunky boys. So good there were lines in that movie.

Speaker 1:

See, that's the thing you can make a movie like this again because they wrote the lines in that movie.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1:

That movie had, it doesn't mean everyone's going to love it. But that movie had lines, it had lines like an old movie. Those were real lines that were like okay, this is fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm very. Hopefully Friday we see another movie with great lines.

Speaker 1:

You are not going to see a movie with great lines. It's going to be terrible.

Speaker 2:

I mean, listen Freddie's in it, jennifer Love Hewitt's in it, that's all I need Really.

Speaker 1:

How old is she?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, they're not the main focus. It's basically like they still live in town and another group of kids do a similar type of thing and are getting hunted. And then Ray and Julie are like this is not the first time it's happened here. You know they're that character now, but we'll see. I'm excited about it, man oh it's going to be bad.

Speaker 1:

Now we talk about something we like. This week there's a Jaws 50th anniversary documentary on Hulu Disney, yes, yes, so beyond worth watching. There's a jobs 50th anniversary documentary on Hulu, disney.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes.

Speaker 1:

So beyond worth watching. I watched it and then Shannon wanted to watch it, so I watched it again and I was like I love that. Like within like like in a 24 hour period. I watched this movie twice.

Speaker 2:

Worth. It Totally worth it.

Speaker 1:

You know cause I was working on.

Speaker 2:

I think I was working on some stuff while I was doing it.

Speaker 1:

You know cause I was working. I think I was working on some stuff while I was doing it, so there are a couple of things I missed and I was like sure. Ooh, yeah, ooh, I started watching some Mr Robot. Okay yeah, darkest, bleakest show I've ever seen in my entire life. Oh my God, how's.

Speaker 2:

Christian Slater. And is he great? He's pretty good.

Speaker 1:

The problem is I never watched it. Rami Malek is.

Speaker 2:

Really good.

Speaker 1:

Did you see him where he played the James Bond villain?

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1:

He plays maybe probably my favorite James Bond villain of all time. He's one of the greatest movie villains I've ever seen and in this thing he's so good. But that whole thing is so bleak. It's very hard.

Speaker 2:

I feel like that's how I felt just watching the trailers. I was like, well, it looks interesting, but I don't need that in my life.

Speaker 1:

It is bleaker than you can even think. Yeah, no, thanks he's like coming down off of drugs in episode four and I'm just like oh, my God. But when he's doing his his thing, you're just like, I just want, you just want him to be destroying bad people's lives and you're like and have nothing bad ever happen to him, but so much bad happens.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but that's not the way that that show works.

Speaker 1:

Got it um and the last thing is that my new thing I watch on my phone is there's these little animated videos of like real life cars doing like these crazy jumps and things. It's like, it's insane. They're just these stupid videos. But you, just you just obsessed with like, I wonder if it's going to make the jump. I wonder if it's going to work.

Speaker 1:

I wonder if it's going to break it. You know it'd be like this car goes over 50 speed bumps and it's going to work. I wonder if it's going to break. It'll be like this car goes over 50 speed bumps and it's like, and it's just like, and everything is just in like these. It's as small a unit of entertainment as you can get.

Speaker 2:

Sure, Shannon's like you got to stop watching those I'm like no. Nah, no, I think I'm going to keep doing it. Thank you, though.

Speaker 1:

It like no, nah, no, I think I'm gonna keep doing it. It jumps up, this thing. Yeah, there's one where they jump over this canyon and then there's 10 helicopters flying and you're like how many helicopters are they gonna? Yeah, I crashed into helicopter number four. Oh my god, they're pretty fun, great stuff. It's like those classic things that once you watch a certain type of reel they're like, oh, this fucker will watch this yeah, that's all your feet's gonna get for a while yeah what do you got for us, tony?

Speaker 2:

well, all right, dan, you're not gonna like my answer uh, we saw superman and you loved it.

Speaker 1:

On thursday night previews I did not.

Speaker 2:

I thought it was the most mediocre movie of all time. It's fine. It is fine, which is better than what we got with Snyder.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you're a Snyder bro. Let's hear from the Snyder bro.

Speaker 2:

I don't like Zack Snyder, as I think we've discussed. But here's my general, without spoilers. Here's my general take on Superman. The movie Superman, the character in it is great. David corn sweat is perfect. I love him. My problem is it it's not a superman movie. It doesn't feel like the vibe of the movie is not superman, even though superman is in it. It feels like you know a, a Superman movie made by the guy that made Guardians of the Galaxy. It's jokey, it's like kitschy and it's you know, it's big and loud, there's very little story and it's just not. There's never like that moment where I'm like, no, this is fucking Superman.

Speaker 1:

So Zack Snyder made big, bombastic, world shaking battle. Superman movies which I did not care for, didn't do much for me, most people didn't, and that's fine.

Speaker 2:

I'm like that's okay, this is not that this is.

Speaker 1:

This is a wacky superman adventure from the 1960s where crypto's doing all sorts of stuff and metamorphose, showing up and all correct and and yeah, which I think I'm going to enjoy.

Speaker 2:

Um, a lot of people seem to be really loving and that's great. It's just it's not for me, but again, I think he is wonderful. Uh, and I was. We were a little hesitant about him going in. Yeah, just based on the trailers. We weren't like sold, but I lovely, I thought he was wonderful.

Speaker 1:

I would have liked more of that and it's not a romance story between lois lane and him, and I mean like a little, you know it's there it's like you got what's her name and him and I was like oh, but that's not.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh well, two wonderful actors, I mean. And um lex, what? What is Lex's name? Nicholas Holt. Yeah, just great actors across the board. Like the acting is wonderful, like, my biggest problem is my favorite character is Nathan Fillion's Green Lantern.

Speaker 1:

Well, they're doing something with him.

Speaker 2:

They're doing lanterns or something, it's just he fits the vibe of the movie and he's like this smart ass dick superhero Right and like that's not Superman, so like it's actually more of a.

Speaker 1:

it's more of a justice league. It's more of a justice league To me. It felt like it yeah.

Speaker 2:

But you know it's still. I mean, it's entertaining, people are going to have a good time and that's all you really need. It's not a movie I'll ever need to watch again.

Speaker 1:

Wow, listen to you so angry.

Speaker 2:

I'm not angry.

Speaker 1:

I'm just so angry, so angry.

Speaker 2:

I don't think I like James Gunn as a filmmaker. That's what I'm learning. I don't think I enjoy it.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to say a couple of things, okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, lay it on me. I'm going to say a couple of things.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, lay it on me. I watched some of the press for the thing, and I watched.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And yeah, I mean everybody. You're just like, I'm intrigued by everybody. I think the casting seems very interesting, the character choices all seem very interesting. He was talking to somebody about it and they were talking about when he got fired by Marvel and I vaguely remember it. And he said that after he got fired by Marvel, all the Guardians, people called him and Sylvester Stallone sent him a thing. And boom, boom, boom. And he said that that was the first time in his life he felt loved.

Speaker 2:

That's a very sad thing to say.

Speaker 1:

And you hear that and you're just like wow, you've got some complex shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he does. He's got some issues.

Speaker 1:

He's got some issues and I never watched Guardians 3. I enjoyed Guardians 1 quite a bit.

Speaker 2:

Never watch it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know you told me and I know that I couldn't. I know that I'm not gonna be able to take it. You know it's gonna destroy it broke me yeah and I don't wanna, I don't want to deal with that, you know not it's, you don't need to. That's the thing, yeah and so I think he has. He has these maybe not weird beliefs, but these things that he needs to get out and he doesn't necessarily get them out in the right way, you know.

Speaker 2:

I don't think he has. None of us really do. Let's be honest.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that is true. All right, Dan, what are we doing? We need a movie. We need a movie. Silver. Linings Playbook oh Jesusesus I never saw that one bradley cooper jennifer lawrence and then david o russell does american american, hustle american.

Speaker 2:

I feel like that movie I hated american hustle was like.

Speaker 1:

Is that Amy Adams? Probably, and what's his name? Again, I think it's Bradley.

Speaker 2:

Cooper.

Speaker 1:

Was it Bradley Cooper? I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to look it up what's his name. Christian Bale.

Speaker 1:

Playing like this weird guy.

Speaker 2:

Jeremy Renner, Jennifer Lawrence.

Speaker 1:

With the weird hair.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, no, I didn't even see this movie oh, you never saw american hustle no, I didn't. It's what movie am I thinking of? I'm thinking of a different movie.

Speaker 1:

Continue um, but american hustle is one of those movies everybody's like the greatest movie with the greatest performances at the greatest of every greatest greatest sure, and you watch it. I think I enjoyed that. I thought the performances were kind of interesting. But you walk away from it going like was that movie, even about anything you know?

Speaker 2:

I never saw Silver.

Speaker 1:

Linings Playbook, which is the one about she's a mop salesperson or whatever. Is that what that one is?

Speaker 2:

Is that the mental illness one? Yes, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

That is what it is. I never saw that one. So David O Russell's latest movie is a movie called Amsterdam and I believe I watched the first 10 minutes of this. It's like you know people talking like this and things are going like this and it looks like a Coen Brothers movie and it's only two hours and 15 minutes my god, which tony hold on a second tony.

Speaker 1:

One of the movies I was looking at, which I chose not to make us do, was over three hours, good golly. And then I think the other one was gladiator 2 and I believe gladiator I mean, that's on my list as well, I think gladiator 2 was like two hours and 38 minutes so I'm actually picking the low end of the three movies.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, dan thanks for saving us but I watched I remember watching the beginning of this and I was so angry that I was like, okay, and this was it must have been before we started. I don't know, I don't know why I watched it and then didn't immediately put it on the list, but I was like it made me angry enough that I was, because I think this is just from a couple years ago.

Speaker 2:

But I'm pretty sure yeah.

Speaker 1:

I think I watched the beginning and I was like so angry it must have been this movie. Because it's 2025, now yeah, so I think it is yeah in this and it's it's uh. What's his name? Okay, doing it again. Batman begins what's his name? Christian bale. Yeah, christian bale torn. A guy that talks like this and has a physicality that's like this right, oh, and john david washington from tenet fame john david washington and these are all people that are really good actors and, I'm sure, the acting is talented people you know we love margot robbie, but I think david o russell just doesn't know what the you know, he just makes these weird yeah, I'm excited to see.

Speaker 2:

I mean excited may not be the right word, but I'm we're gonna do it.

Speaker 1:

we're gonna do it so because the change from those last three movies we've watched, It'll be a big switch up. This one is like filmmaking, because we haven't had a filmmaking movie in a while. That's true.

Speaker 2:

Not since the very first episode, Benjamin Button.

Speaker 1:

Oh God, Remember the filmmaking of Benjamin Button? Oh, I'm creative. Look at me making a movie about a guy with an agent's backwards no.

Speaker 2:

Those were the days so bad.

Speaker 1:

I turned into a and then I disappeared. Bye-bye. Nothing to bury here.

Speaker 2:

Weird stuff.

Speaker 1:

If you like what you hear, subscribe, hit the buttons. Whatever the buttons are, leave a message. Someone left a message. I got to go look at that. I saw it there.

Speaker 2:

Oh hey, thanks for the message, Unless it was mean, and then no thanks Probably make fun of our voices. Our voices. Yeah, use us for having voices. Maybe I'll just talk in this voice the whole time. And I'll just talk in this smooth jazz.

Speaker 1:

Smooth, just talking this smooth jazz. Smooth Tony and Wacky Dan. Oh, wacky Dan, wacky, wacky, wacky, wacka, wacka. So we'll see you next week for Amsterdam.

Speaker 2:

Goodbye everybody. Hey watch it With Dan and Tony. Hey watch it With Dan and Tony.

Speaker 1:

It's like watching.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.