Hate Watching with Dan and Tony
Hate Watching with Dan and Tony
Hate Watching Hell Of A Summer: A slasher film with an identity crisis
What happens when a self-referential slasher comedy can't quite figure out what it wants to be? "Hell of a Summer," the directorial debut from Finn Wolfhard and Billy Bryk, promised to do for summer camp slashers what "Scream" did for the entire genre – but stumbles in its execution despite some genuine bright spots.
This week, we dive into this curious $3 million indie horror comedy that follows Jason, a dedicated 24-year-old camp counselor who returns to Camp Pineway rather than pursuing a responsible legal career. When counselors start getting picked off by a killer in a devil mask, the film attempts to balance humor, horror, and character work with varying degrees of success. While the cinematography impresses throughout – especially considering the challenges of night shooting on a limited budget – the narrative and character development leave much to be desired.
The true revelation of the film is co-director Billy Bryk's performance as Bobby, whose scene-stealing comedic moments provide the film's biggest laughs and most memorable sequences. We break down why his character works so well while others (including Wolfhard's own character) fail to make an impression. From puzzling killer motivations to inconsistent death scenes, we unpack where this promising concept went wrong while celebrating the moments where it actually delivers.
Whether you're a horror fan curious about this new addition to the slasher comedy subgenre or just enjoy our dissections of films that don't quite reach their potential, this episode offers plenty to sink your teeth into. Join us for a thoughtful, funny conversation about "Hell of a Summer" – a film that might not be great, but certainly gave us more to talk about than we expected.
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Speaker 2:Is that you Tony-ing up the whole thing? No, we cannot. Dan Goodsell, hey watching with Dan and Tony. Hey watching with Dan and Tony. It's like watching.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Welcome to hey Watching with Dan and Tony. I'm Dan, I'm Tony On this show. We watch a movie, and sometimes we watch a movie that came out within current memory or current times.
Speaker 2:Current memory. My memory very short so I'm not sure this qualifies. Also, this technically came out in 23. What, what?
Speaker 1:are you talking about? So it?
Speaker 2:premiered at some film festival I don't remember which one In 2023. Then it got its release later because someone picked it up. I should have looked all this up, but yeah, so it premiered two years ago, got distribution last year or something, and then finally has been released on the home videos okay, uh, tell us what movie this is well, here let's set, let's set the stage. I'll tell a tale, um, so I don't like finn wolfhard, and uh, and then, and then it turns out he wrote and co-wrote and co-directed I, I think and co-starred in a movie and I was like, well, I have to watch this movie at some point, and I knew it was going to make me mad.
Speaker 2:So I feel like we should do it for this podcast. I didn't say the name of it, did I no? And so the movie is Hell of a Summer, I don't know. Is it a parody? It's hell of a summer, I don't know. Is it a parody? It's not really a parody, but it's a slasher of sorts.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like what Scream wanted to do it wants to be self-referential and disassemble the concepts, but it doesn't disassemble any concepts. It doesn't posit any new concepts.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:It does not have any thrills, it does not have any chills.
Speaker 2:It did have a couple of laughs, for me at least.
Speaker 1:There's some jokes in it, but I would say they're not supported Because what they'll do is they'll sort of throw a joke and then drift into something else and so jokes. Comedy has to be built right for something to be comedic, and I watched the first nine minutes of Hard Eyes, which is also, oh yes, the first nine minutes of hard eyes, which is also oh yes.
Speaker 1:And you were just like you compare hard eyes to this movie and you're like, well, hard eyes has blood, has guts. Also looks like it's skewering the thing. Also, you're like, okay, I think they're going to be making fun of a thing. You know it's. It's, it sets you up, it's if this movie is sort of a, it's sort of a tepid slasher camp movie, yep, character study thing okay, sure, sure, I will say, I'm gonna say two things say two things number one.
Speaker 2:I liked this movie way more than I thought I was going to, so that's great for the movie. Yes, it's not a good movie, I don't think.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I liked it way more than I thought I was going to. I went in with a real bad attitude. I was like by the end I was like, okay, you know, I enjoyed parts of it. So I didn't hate this movie like I thought I was going to. What I do want to say is one of the guys I think his name is billy brick. I think this is the guy I tried. Well, he's the um. He's the guy that's obsessed with the killings happening due to hotness and he's upset that he didn't get killed first. That guy, Bobby.
Speaker 1:Okay, it is Bobby, probably the most interesting character.
Speaker 2:Without a doubt.
Speaker 1:for me, yes, he's almost a developed character Almost.
Speaker 2:I think he does his best. Oh yeah, because if you look at all the characters right, there aren't really characters. In my opinion, except for him and the other lead guy. Yes, those are the only two people with like somewhat defined characters and I think it comes down to the actor, like I think he made a choice and I think he stuck to it and I think he's very funny.
Speaker 1:When they give him like decent lines.
Speaker 2:He delivers them really well. And there are some people in this movie finn wolfhard that can't deliver a line, even if it's written by him, which we'll talk about later. Uh, but this kid was great. I I loved him a lot and he was like he was a real standout for me. So before I you know get mad and yell at the movie, I just want to say he was wonderful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's why this movie kind of has two things. It has that going for it where you have a couple of characters and I think all the actors, everybody looks different, everybody sort of brings a real energy to it, a real energy to it and, you know, it kind of feels real. It feels not real, but it feels like a real movie in the in terms of the characters doing things. Their arcs are not properly defined, sure, and so you're, you know, a lot of times you're sort of left going like, well, okay, I, you know, and the other thing is it's I can, you can sort of say this it's shot really well, right, in some ways, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure there's an expense to the way the movie looks.
Speaker 2:Especially for the fact that it was made on $3 million Is that what it was.
Speaker 1:This was made for $3 million.
Speaker 2:I think that's what the reported budget is. I will look it up, but I'm pretty sure it was like super cheap okay.
Speaker 1:Well, whoever the cinematographer was, they should.
Speaker 2:It's a it's a reported budget of three million, which is it's?
Speaker 1:it's insane if you think about it like, compared to a lot of things.
Speaker 2:we watch the in the lost lands that we just talked about shot for like a hundred million or some. I don't. I don't know what it is, but 3 million Wonderful.
Speaker 1:Great job, shooting this, lighting this, doing the whole thing.
Speaker 2:Work forever.
Speaker 1:All night shots. Everything's at night, yeah, which is expensive to shoot.
Speaker 2:You have to light the outdoors. I don't know if you guys have ever shot outside at night. You literally have to make light in the outdoors. I don't know if you guys have ever shot outside at night. You literally have to make light in the night. And that is not cheap. You gotta get generators. You gotta get huge lights that light forever, but not so much that it looks like daylight. It's tough. I can't do it. I've tried.
Speaker 1:There's a few directing things that were problematic just from a standpoint.
Speaker 2:Probably just throwing out probably all Finn's decisions, All the ones that were.
Speaker 1:You kind of feel there's like two or three things I'm going to bring up that you're just kind of like oh, they did not have coverage, they did not know how to shoot this, they did not figure it out beforehand, and they got there and then they shot it and then they were like well, that's, this is what we got. Three million dollars, that's what we got three million dollars.
Speaker 2:That's what we got. Listen, I mean, that's the thing. I try to make it make sense. I don't know how long their shoot was, but for three million it's not very long, no right. So you, you get probably two, three takes at a thing and you're like we got to move on or we're not going to finish this movie. We gotta go. I've been in those situations. It's not fun, um but it. You know. You make it work. It's an adventure. And then you see what you see at the end of the movie.
Speaker 1:You have to imagine the editor was sitting there going like what the fuck were they doing?
Speaker 2:How do I make this work?
Speaker 1:How am I supposed to make sense of this? Can we, can we, can we? And I don't even know how much ADR this movie had, because there was probably some things where you could ADR and some stuff and fix some little things and it doesn't feel like they did. Yeah, definitely not.
Speaker 2:Again, that's an extra expense in post. Because, once you wrap that movie you're like, well, all of our money's gone. We can try to go get more funding to fix things in post, but it's all expensive and for $3 million that doesn't go very far in this industry. But honestly, great job.
Speaker 1:And they're not worried about us assholes that are watching it and being like, oh not in Tisk, Tisk. You know what?
Speaker 2:I think Finn's worried. Okay, he feels like the kind of guy that would be worried about us.
Speaker 1:Based on the character he plays, I have the feeling he takes it very easy and is like yeah, whatever the kid's rich, Everybody loves him.
Speaker 2:He's having a great life. He doesn't have to do anything for the next 40 years well, so let's talk about the movie yeah, let's talk about it hell of a summer.
Speaker 1:Just realized today why it's called that uh 2025 hour. You're not gonna explain it well, I'll explain it when I get to it.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm sorry. Okay, well, you brought it up. I was waiting for an explanation because I don't know the answer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you will when I explain it to you. Okay, we set up, we have a campfire, we have a dude tuning his guitar, there's bugs getting zapped, zapping bugs. He's a beard guy, then there's a blonde lady. Then they sort of sing. He sings the Camp Pineway song, which is where we're at. They're at Camp Pineway. We're going to find out that these are the two Owners, slash people that run it Jack and Diane. What were their names? No clue.
Speaker 2:They do say it, because the Jason guy says it multiple times Like so-and-so aren't here yet. Yeah, never remembered.
Speaker 1:I just didn't write it down.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He goes to get more beers. We have the shaky cam, which is your classic view of the killer. Um, he's gone. I guess he was killed with the guitar. I don't remember how he was killed with the guitar.
Speaker 2:Well, because you don't know how he was killed with a guitar.
Speaker 1:Because they don't show it Tony's angry.
Speaker 2:Well, listen, I understand We'll talk about it later. I understand why we don't see a couple of deaths. It makes sense. But if you're going to open your movie, your horror movie, your big opening, your Drew Barrymore moment, if we're going with the scream thing, I got to see something. Okay, I can't not see this death. All of a sudden you cut away to the lady and then she walks over and he's got a guitar through his neck, which is a cool death. I would love to watch that happen.
Speaker 2:And you're just like oh look, it already happened. And then we're out.
Speaker 1:Let's go on with the movie. Three million dollars.
Speaker 2:I don't care, you spend money on that opening shot. This is what's supposed to make me stay in the movie theater. If I watch this movie, I'm like I'm done, I'm bored.
Speaker 1:This is a dumb movie, lady runs for the car, gets in the car and is like looking out at this shot of the forest you know the headlights beaming and you're like I don't see anything. They cut back to her. She's still looking. Show it again. I don't see anything. Cut back to her again she falls forward Slides off the knife. Slides off the knife. She stabbed through the back of the head. Great, yes, that was awesome.
Speaker 2:10 out of 10.
Speaker 1:Just like that was cool, I was surprised.
Speaker 2:If you showed me him getting killed with a guitar and then cap it off with a very clever death, clever, so you have like a nice gory classic death and then a nice clever subversion death, I'm it.
Speaker 1:I'm like, okay, you know what you're doing, let's do this thing and we're halfway there, we're halfway there, guy in the back seat wearing a devil mask yeah, what's the title of this movie?
Speaker 2:oh, hell of a summer. It's because he's from hell he's wearing.
Speaker 1:A devil is from hell, you gotta, you gotta.
Speaker 2:Cue us up on that a little little more somehow, yeah, something they did not cue us up on that at all also not, you didn't think you missed it, never even crossed my mind. I missed it, which is interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, if dan missed it you know it's, my thing is like I know I should get it at the end.
Speaker 2:We should all get it at the end, but they don't.
Speaker 1:They never do anything about it, the bad guy should be Satanists or something like that.
Speaker 2:Something, because here's the thing A devil mask. Why, why? What does it have to do with anything?
Speaker 1:It does not, and that's kind of the major problem with this movie is what does?
Speaker 2:that have to do with anything. Yeah, nothing with this movie is.
Speaker 1:What does that have to do with anything? Yeah, nothing, nobody, nothing at all. You know, when we do find out why the oh spoilers, when we do find out why it happened, we're kind of we're underwhelmed, we're like, oh, that's what we're. Oh, who cares?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, real silly, real real. I I don't, I don't know um and it. I'm not saying it has to mean something, right, like the ghost face doesn't really mean anything, yeah, but it's iconic, like a devil mask is just so generic to me. And also, that TV show used a devil mask for their kills too. What was that show? They follow like a sorority, and Glenn Powell's in it God, I love that guy. He's great. I'll look up the name of it, but you keep going.
Speaker 1:Well, in Scream you know it's a plastic man. It feels like something somebody just bought at the Halloween store.
Speaker 2:Right, because they did like that's the whole point. And then other in the sequels, other people, even in the first one they have that costume and they're running around the school like, ah, we're having a good time, people are getting murdered, which is fuck, wonderfully fucked up, um, but like that's the whole thing. It's like a. It's a, it's just a thing. They stole, and same with uh, you know, michael grabs his mask from a convenience store or whatever, like a devil mask is. Just I don't know, it's just so weird to me, it's just like why is this here?
Speaker 2:what are we doing?
Speaker 1:you need to have. You know, you need to have characters explain things, or we, we, we come to understand things right, yes, and that that has to be part of it. It's this thing is they're trying to set it up that it was a satanic cult that did all this and then we find out that it wasn't a satanic cult, it was just these people playing at it, or it is a satanic. You know, unless you're going to have like whatever that, that that one I said called the one where the what's her name and the guy are out in the cabin, sort of away from things, and then, like the three people, show up wearing the masks the home invasion.
Speaker 1:What masks the home invasion? What, oh that's. That's my favorite movie. I don't think shannon can watch that one because I can't.
Speaker 2:It's so terrifying I so I have a real problem with like home and movies that I'm like oh, that probably really happens, like that's definitely something that absolutely happens. Uh, freaks me out. Yeah, I can't. I can't do it that's your strangers.
Speaker 1:The strangers, that's your wife's favorite movie.
Speaker 2:She loves the strangers, loves it and I'm like I just it depresses me. It's not like I don't get scared, I get sad because I'm like these people are just trying to live their lives and they're just they're getting murdered yeah, I don't know, it bumps me out. I can't, uh, I can't handle them. That just just makes me sad. Not, I don't get. I like to watch horror movies and be like yeah, this is fun, murder these fuckers. Yeah, just those movies just make me sad, yeah and that's.
Speaker 1:The other thing is, we have the movies where you know, teenagers are punished for having sex.
Speaker 2:Okay, you're having sex now you're gonna die, that's right and maybe that's a jealousy thing for me, you know, because I didn't get to do it when I was a teenager but yeah, they should die.
Speaker 1:Get rid of them so devil mask, hell of a summer boom. We have the titles, we have scream queens.
Speaker 2:By the way, I did look it up, the name of the show is scream queens, and they also use a devil mask costume as their killer, and that is a show that's like poking fun at the horror industry. So so this just, you got to do something different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, our boy Jason. His name is Jason, right, jason.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure the camp leader.
Speaker 1:Jason is a 24-year-old. He's avoiding an internship, going back to this camp that he loves. It's probably after his. You know this is like he has grown, maybe too old for doing this Camp Pineway. He's nostalgic and you know your mom is like you should think about your future and becoming a lawyer. But no, this is his place, this is his comfort zone. That's right, that's right. I love that. This kid's good he's.
Speaker 2:He's gonna have plenty of work he, he's already had plenty of work. He is, yeah, and he's so weird in some stuff, but in this he's like actually somewhat human, which I appreciate, because there I don't. There is what is he's in this, like the woman in the window across the street or something, uh, and he just plays like the weirdest guy you're ever gonna meet and it was just like is this guy not human? But this balances that out a little bit, which I appreciate.
Speaker 1:Yeah uh, now we have your boy, finn wolfhard, who's playing chris, and his boy, bobby, who's wearing the puka shells at first. First I thought Bobby was in love with Chris, but that's not the case. It might still be the case.
Speaker 2:It's not the case, are you sure? Because at one point, oh sorry.
Speaker 1:I think Bobby went with the girl who ends up with Chris initially, but there's a line in the movie where Bobby is like you don't deserve him and I don't deserve him.
Speaker 2:Shannon I think Shannon's the girl which is the girl that Finn is interested in. So I still, I still think that there's an element of of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So you're not quite sure if it's hero worship or he's in love with him or and you know why it's very, very unclear is because Finn actually isn't in the movie as much as anyone else. So his character is to me the least developed. But also, as the editor, I would have cut him out of everything because he's also the worst actor in this movie. Do we agree on that?
Speaker 1:I mean he doesn't do anything, but it's his movie, Dan.
Speaker 2:It's his movie, so he should be doing something.
Speaker 1:I think the idea is he's like this is an ensemble, guys, but he should have a character.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he should have a character and he should play the character and he should land the jokes that he writes for himself, which he does not. He does not deliver the jokes correctly. Please, am I being too too harsh on Finn Because I didn't laugh a single time at his jokes. I don't feel like he has comedic timing on any level.
Speaker 1:I think you're being harsh on him, but he, he did not exist in the movie. So what you're doing is you're looking at what little he did and saying it's terrible.
Speaker 2:I'm saying he wasn't given enough.
Speaker 1:No, I just yeah. He just didn't really play a part in the movie.
Speaker 2:Okay, so here's, I'm going to jump ahead just a touch, just a little bit. There's a moment later in the film where their tires have been slashed when they're trying to escape and they all run out, and Finn's character used his stepdad's car and he goes oh fuck, dale, just got these replaced, or something like that. Yeah, which is like could be a very funny line, because you're life and death stakes and the first thing you think about is like, oh, my stepdad's going to kill me. That line should make me laugh. Instead, it did not make me laugh, and he wrote it.
Speaker 1:Well, your point being is we should have set up from minute one.
Speaker 2:He should be obsessed with Dale or whatever. Yeah, he should have something Anyhow, and here's why the other guy that wrote and direct is the bobby guy right, I have no idea, I'll hold on. I'm pretty sure it's the bobby guy and that's why his character bothers me so much, because the other guy that wrote and directed has a great character in this movie yeah, well, yeah, so it's, it's billy, it's yeah, it's this, billy brick I feel like I'm saying the name billy brick and finn wrote and directed it together.
Speaker 2:So bobby and finn's character. What is his name? Chris? Chris, okay, are the two people that wrote and directed this film, and there is a stark contrast in the level of character work, acting ability, jokes. It's so apparent to me that one of them can do stuff and one of them can't.
Speaker 1:Well, they should not have played the two roles together. First of all, that's a huge mistake. Sure, they should not have played the two roles together. First of all, that's a huge mistake. Sure, they should have played and I think that's what part of the frisson of the movie is is that the Jason character, who's your protagonist, and Bobby, who is your sort of sub-protagonist? He's sort of your B-plot? Yes, and it just horror movies can't really afford to have another character. That's a full B plot. Sure, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure.
Speaker 1:I mean this movie's an hour and 28 minutes, so that means an hour and 20. Yeah, and we're out. So I mean this movie and it has a lot of setup.
Speaker 2:It does. It does have a lot, maybe too much.
Speaker 1:I don. It has a lot of setup, it does. It does have a lot, maybe too much, I don't know. Yeah, it's a lot of setup and then when things get rolling, they roll very quickly and and don't necessarily go anywhere exactly um, so yeah I don't know um. We don't know what time, what time period this is.
Speaker 2:We find out eventually that it's now I think yeah, only because the phones, the phone and like social media is like a big thing. So I mean it could be any anywhere in the last 10 years, I guess. But in the beginning there are moments where I'm like, is this the 80s? Is this is this like? Is this a throwback to friday the 13th, like 1984? I'm a little confused yeah.
Speaker 1:So you need to. You need to tell us that up front. What, what year it is, just to make things easier on us so we're not confused. Boom, we get there, it's counselor weekend, so we're not going to have any kids, so the counselors are just going to do their counseling. We meet Demi who has giant white boots and lots of luggage which our boy, jason, has to bring in. Oh, there are cell phones. He makes an E-Way joke. I think Jason makes the E-Way joke. I don't know what the E-Way joke was, but it was a good joke.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't remember it. I'm sure it was great.
Speaker 1:We meet Ezra, the theater guy. Here comes Jason, he's coming back. I wrote Field of Death, ezra's working on his Field of Death script, which never comes back.
Speaker 2:Nope, nope, not a part of this movie at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1:This character, Ezra, very lost, doesn't ever have much of anything to do? I don't think.
Speaker 2:I think he has my favorite line of the movie he's got a good joke later yeah. I think it's him. It makes sense. I wrote down the line but don't totally remember it. It's a theater joke, so I assume he's the one that throws it out.
Speaker 1:But Shannon is the girl that's into Chris, chris and Bobby. Here they come um. Then there's Jean, short girl, who is Claire, claire's into Jason, jason's into Claire's, but neither of them wants to sort of admit it yeah um, and then he helps her get into her cabin by moving the door so it isn't locked. That never comes back into play.
Speaker 2:Yeah, other than like he knows the camp really well.
Speaker 1:I think maybe that's the you know yeah, John and Kathy are the people who run the place, and we find out that Claire had had a boyfriend, but it fell apart, and so Jason was initially like oh my God. And then he's like, oh my God, I'm still in.
Speaker 2:Still in baby. I mean, you know, it would have been fun as if, like during a chase scene, they brought back that door thing. Yeah, there's all stuff you can do.
Speaker 1:There's a note from John and Kathy saying we're not going to be there yet, Just go on without us. We meet Miley, who is a redhead vegetarian, and then this other brunette she's vegan. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:They make a point of saying it's different later. It's the same thing, that she's not vegetarian.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing.
Speaker 2:It's not the same thing, Dan. Pretty much the same thing that she's not vegetarian.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing. It's not the same thing, dan, pretty much the same thing.
Speaker 2:You've just upset 30% of our audience.
Speaker 1:Same thing. There's another. There's a brunette goth girl named Noel, who's also psychic, and then this guy, ari, who's a filmmaker, I guess.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess, okay, so guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, so that's everybody.
Speaker 2:Just a hodgepodge of characters here.
Speaker 1:Sorry. And then there's Mike, who is the sportsman, oh right, yeah. Stupid tough guy. They put their phones in a basket because it have to, because it's camp time no phone camp time no phones.
Speaker 2:I love that.
Speaker 1:We have a little boat bow and arrow practice where Claire is batted bow and then bow and arrow and then Jason gives her.
Speaker 2:you know some tutelage, but a non sexy. This is a. This is a scene I really I really liked. So there are I don't know who it is down the way, but someone further down out of our side of these two characters is also doing an archery lesson and he's doing this sexy thing where he's wrapped around her and helping her pull back. And Claire Claire, yeah Wants Jason to do that. So she's like, oh, you teach me how to do it.
Speaker 1:She does not say it like that.
Speaker 2:No, she doesn't, but that's in her mind. She's like, oh, touch me and show me how to do it. And Jason takes two steps back and reels down and he's like, ok, now I need you to do this. The look of disappointment on her face is really great. It's a nice little scene. It shows some character work. You know, it's nice to have that every once in a while in this movie.
Speaker 1:So then she gets a little better, and then he goes up, steps up and shows that he is very proficient with the bow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Super good at it. And then we get he has a great line. She's sort of like why are the John and Kathy not here? And Jason's like, well, I think maybe they're not here because they're testing me to see if I'm ready to take over this responsibility. I'm like, okay, yeah, all right, that sounds good, it's nice, it's nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's delusional. I love it, love it.
Speaker 1:And that's kind of why this thing doesn't really work is the terrible people, which is sort of everybody else, but sort of not everybody else. They don't really have that much disdain for him. Yes, they just don't register his existence.
Speaker 2:Yeah, quite literally. Bobby is like I don't know who you are. We've been going to camp for six years together. I don't know who you are. We've been going to camp for six years together, I don't know who you are.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you needed to have some of the characters have actual disdain for him.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:So that you really set up that imbalance. I think yeah, he's grilling burgers. Miley demands a vegan one, bobby gets a vegan one. He's putting the moves on her.
Speaker 2:It does not go well this is where you'd get the differentiation different, yeah, between vegetarian, vegan, because he says vegetarian at first and she's like, well, I'm vegan. He's like you didn't let me finish. Vegetarian for two years, vegan for 18 months, which is like it was funny. I thought it was funny, okay. Well, I'll let him know. He had some good jokes, I guarantee you. He wrote all of his own stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh, he totally did.
Speaker 2:Because he's the only character that has like jokes real, actual jokes.
Speaker 1:But I think, because you sort of shift into things so much, he sort of he disappears and he doesn't get to roll.
Speaker 2:Yes, 100 percent.
Speaker 1:You know, it's just like seen and gone. Yeah, Billy Burgers, the movie guy has a nut allergy and then loses his mind talking about social anxiety.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what a weird. And do you get the feeling and maybe I'm way off on this, but did you get the feeling that maybe Finn and Billy don't like their generation? No, because it feels like there are like the, the vegan ladies kind of made fun of. This guy is like the most annoying person where I was like I've got a nut allergy. Uh, socially, people with nut allergies are more socially awkward or something like it just feels like they're kind of poking fun, which is fine, I don't think it's bad, I you know, I agree. Uh, I just thought it was interesting that the things that they chose to make fun of were like, I don't know, not necessarily the things that I would have chose to make fun of you know, they don't go hard enough.
Speaker 2:Sure, yeah, yeah, no, I get that.
Speaker 1:Because everything feels sort of. You know, we sort of set up this sort of level where it's like well, they're kind of quirky, but they're also normally grounded people. Sure, nobody's like. You think of Breakfast Club. I don't know if you remember that movie, of course, I remember that movie. Ally Sheedy's character is like she stuffs her head in a bag, she puts jelly beans on a peanut butter sandwich and you're like this girl's weird Sure, and you know it turns out she's not that weird, but you know.
Speaker 2:Well, that's character development for her.
Speaker 1:Yes, we learn who she really is. All these characters all seem like well, I'm kind of quirky. Yeah, I'm a little bit quirky. Yeah, I'm kind of quirky. Sure, yeah, yeah, you know, and it's like nobody's swinging for the fences except the Bobby guy who's trying to get going, but everything else sort of brings him, pulls him back down.
Speaker 1:Right back down to nice. You know nothings. You know nobody gets bullied. Jason never gets bullied in here. Yeah, which is a little weird, right? Bullying is a key component to all these kinds of movies. You know, I don't know. Okay, boom, somebody mentions Ryan Gosling. So you're like, well, we were in a world that exists with Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 2:Every world that exists should have a Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 1:Night falls, demi is brushing your hair and then she gets murdered.
Speaker 2:blood splattering everywhere yeah, yeah, okay, but you don't see it you don't see it and at first I was like, oh god, is this whole movie gonna be off-screen deaths? Because I'm going to lose my shit.
Speaker 1:Now, did you suspect anything when we didn't?
Speaker 2:see her death? I honestly didn't. No, because you know what Maybe this is proving me wrong, because they did set me up because I was like, oh great, this is just a low budget piece of shit where all the deaths are going to be off-screen because we don't have the effects department on set. So maybe that was their plan all along, was you? Don't show the first death, because it sets up the fact that we're not going to show the next couple we're doing.
Speaker 1:The campfire mark is talking about knocking out a cop, which was one of those weird scenes. It's a weird through line. You don't understand what it is. You're like nope, did he really do it? Did he not do it?
Speaker 2:what does it mean?
Speaker 2:right, like he definitely didn't do it, but I, I don't know it's. It's weird because they this is the thing that they kind of make a through line where he talks about this a couple times and then at the end of the movie, how he saves himself, is using the same line from that story, which is I'm a liar. Yeah, oh, the whole. I don't. I don't understand the whole story. But the story ends with the cop says something and I said I'm a liar. And then I roundhouse kicked him in the face or something like that. And then at the end, when he's about to die, end, when he's about to die, when he's getting brutally murdered, he's like, oh, one more thing, I'm a liar. And then jabs the knife into the guy's neck or whatever bobby does bobby is his line against him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, okay, I I missed all of that that is it happened dan that's my character. I was watching that story and I'm like I don't understand anything that's happened with this. Sure, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2:It doesn't tell me about the character I feel like they wrote it backwards where they were, like this would be a fun way to end the movie, but let's make some sort of a story that they can come from. I don't know, Because that's what happens that they can come from I don't know, because that's what happens. He uses the line and then stabs Mike in the neck.
Speaker 1:Ah, that's all I got. Okay, jason's in his cabin looking at a photo. Claire jump scares him and I was like, oh, maybe Claire's the killer, but they never set it up that we think anybody that's still alive can be the killer.
Speaker 2:Right. So in a movie like this, we shouldn't know, we should suspect everyone, we shouldn't suspect no one. You know what I mean. So, like there was never a moment where I thought, oh, it's Mike and Demi, yeah, but there was also never a moment where I was like it's one of these kids. I was like I have no idea who the killer is, but I'm also not that interested, like I'm not trying to figure it out, I'm just like what's happening? I don't, I don't know what's going on. I just assumed that it was the first two people and you know, I don't know they faked their own deaths somehow. But you know, that would be weird, wait, so you did figure that out very early. No, no, no, I'm saying the people that own the camp. Oh, I see, yes, I was like, well, maybe it's them, but that would be weird because we saw them die.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know, but I just said no. I had no, but I said no. There was never a moment where I'm like, oh shit, it's this person, oh, it's this person, oh, it's this person.
Speaker 1:They should have. You have to pick that person who you're going to try to In each scene. You have to understand who it is you're trying to pin it on Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And this would have been a great scene for Claire. For you to pin it on, claire, yeah, for sure, you know, because she comes in there and is like, why aren't you at the campfire? And he's like, oh, they don't want me there. And then she's like, fuck that, we're going to go. And she's like they're insufferable. And I'm like, well, this is the point where they need to. I mean, I wasn't thinking this during the movie, but now, sure, she should have then picked up a knife and gone. They're insufferable, bang. And you're like, oh, she killed Demi. Fuck, Demi.
Speaker 2:You know Demi was a bitch to Jason at the beginning.
Speaker 1:I'm like oh, claire, but every time we see Claire, she is just like puppy dog eyes towards Jason, sort of which. We see Claire, she is just like puppy dog eyes towards Jason, sort of.
Speaker 2:Which is kind of weird, but also not to bring it back to Scream. Not everything needs to be Scream. You know what I mean, but all I'm saying is the entire movie of Scream is them making fun of the fact that everyone needs to be a suspect? Right, like they have that conversation. Everyone's a suspect. Right, like they have that conversation, everyone's a suspect. That's the whole point. Everyone should be suspect in this movie, it doesn't? Maybe not Jason, right? Like? Whoever one thinks is the killer is the one person we should be like? No, we know he's not the killer. So who is the killer? Could be this person because of this, this person because of this, like. That's why Scream makes fun of that, because that's a trope that you need to use to make your movie effective.
Speaker 1:You're trying to make us afraid for these people, and not once we're off balance, then you can play with us, exactly. I never felt off balance.
Speaker 2:No, no, I felt a little bored, but never off balance.
Speaker 1:Shannon and Chris are making out, and then he's like don't tell Bobby about this. I think he said that. Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2:Or someone was like are you going to tell? Bobby, and they're like no, I won't, and it's just I don't. This triangle never really made sense to me. I still don't really know which direction the arrows go in the triangle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it just seems like they're in a relationship and it's okay and I don't think anybody really cares. You don't think, bobby's?
Speaker 2:going to freak out about it? I don't think so either. He kind of knows.
Speaker 1:Because if he's going to freak out about it, you have to set that up in the car that bobby's like or let him freak out about it chris, this is our time together okay, right, sure, yeah, that's nice fuck the girls.
Speaker 1:this is the bros before hoes. You know, you gotta, you gotta everything, just like in comedy. You have to do this, you have to set everything up so that, when it happens, we we feel satisfied. He's like oh yeah, oh no, oh, he's making out with Shannon. This is going to be bad. Oh, it's going to be bad when Bobby hears about it, but it's not bad. Bobby's like meh, I guess.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like we know it's not bad, and then it's not bad, and so what's the point?
Speaker 1:What's the point? What's the point of any of it? Movies are heightened. Bobby's going to jump the bonfire with his bike, he sets it up and then.
Speaker 2:I also like this scene.
Speaker 1:Bobby, bobby, and then somebody calls him a pussy. Yeah, who calls him a pussy? Maybe Ari does, maybe the movie guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not totally sure that sounds right yeah.
Speaker 1:And then he's like you know, oh, forget it. No, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 2:No, you ruined it. You can't call me a pussy. You ruined it, I'm done. Yeah, I really liked it. I thought that was nice because you know he never really wanted to do it right. It's a nice character moment where he finds that excuse and he's like, oh, thank god, I don't have to do it, I'm just gonna pretend like this really upset me and walk away.
Speaker 1:it's nice uh, okay, so he does not make the jump right, okay? Uh, the vegan has gone to the kitchen because she has to have a burger. Almost there's a door noise. Yeah, what. What is the point?
Speaker 2:what is?
Speaker 1:oh, because all vegans really want to just have a burger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think that that's right. So like this joke doesn't land for me, because that's not true, you know.
Speaker 1:I didn't drink when I was, you know, high school or even in college.
Speaker 2:I never really drank. I still don't drink, yeah.
Speaker 1:You still don't drink. Let's see if you've had a similar thing People that drink. Always wanted to make you drink.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, constantly All the time. And they're like what do you mean? You don't want one. It's like I don't care, it tastes like shit. There's no reason for me to put that in my mouth. I don't understand. Like I don't care, snickers.
Speaker 1:And then they get very upset. They get very upset and so just having the vegan immediately, you know.
Speaker 2:I need a burger. It's like well she's a vegan.
Speaker 1:She's a vegan Like. Let the characters be the characters.
Speaker 2:It's just a bad joke. It's a joke from like 1995, when veganism was new and everyone's like, oh, swinging a miss.
Speaker 1:Boys swing and a miss. So here comes the. There's a door noise, here's the devil mask. And then there was there's a it's beyond meat joke. I don't remember what that was yeah, someone yelled it.
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't totally recall either. I don't think it was funny yeah, she, she gets killed. Yeah Now, okay Again, you don't have to make your, so you have to pick a lane, right? Yeah, because in a little bit we're going to get to the peanut butter death.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was bad.
Speaker 2:What do you mean by bad? You didn't like it, no, so that made me laugh. Okay, because it's so stupid, and you know what I mean. Like, oh my god, you're gonna use the peanut butter as because he's allergic. That's silly, but that doesn't make sense to me, in the same movie as when you're making fun of a vegan for wanting a burger and not killing her with something related to that yes I mean, if maybe grill her face, if I don't know, I don't know what it is, but you know you have to.
Speaker 2:You pick a lane. Pick a lane. You're either gonna make silly deaths that are like I don't know where's the joke coming from right. Sure and yes her.
Speaker 1:You know, the joke of this thing is that she's trying to eat a real burger, which doesn't make any sense. Don't make any sense as opposed to him punishing her for being a vegan like we would have liked, that we would have been like yes, you know you're a vegan.
Speaker 2:Okay, now you're gonna get punished for that because the the movie clearly takes not that, not that this is, but like an anti-vegan stance, right.
Speaker 2:Like in a way, the veganism is used as a negative joke, right, like we don't like vegans, vegans are dumb. Oh, look at this vegan who wants meat and you know whatever. If you're already taking that stance, punish her for being vegan. This guy who complained about his nut allergy and was a little bitch about, punish him for his nut out, like that, that's fun. That's a fun death to me. Yeah, this. And then you just kill her regular style. Like what? Why are you just lazy? I don't know. Then we have mike, he gets.
Speaker 1:We have Mike. He gets grabbed by the devil mask and, I guess, killed, right, yeah, okay, mike's dead. So Mike's dead. Vegan is dead, demi is dead. At least three dead. Okay, shannon and Chris. We find out that he, chris, performed oral sex on Shannon during the summer and that's so they're happy. Yeah, I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2:No, no, it's a funny scene because they play it between the two different. The boys are in one cab and the girls are in the other and they're both talking about it, which is like an ageold joke of men and women communicating differently. But it's done, it's done well, so I've, I'm not, I'm not mad about it and it's uh, yeah, it's funny, but here's why I hate it. So I wanted to, I wanted to say you know, they did it fine and so I'm not mad. Here's why I hate it. Finn wolfhard wrote this movie with his buddy, and here's finn being like yeah, I'm the greatest cunnilingus guy in the world, like I'm so good at going down on girls that I should do it all that I just I hated that. He is the guy that is like oh, yeah, I'm so good in bed I am, I'm the best in bed. Because it just made me gag and I don't know if that's my anti-fin coming out, but it's a little self-serving and I did not enjoy it.
Speaker 1:I think it's a little more virtue signaling than great in bed. But whatever. That's fair. So Jason stops by Chris and Bobby's and he's like what are we going to do group activities? They're like we don't care, okay. And he's like what are we going to do group activities? They're like we don't care, okay. Then he goes to Demi's and he goes in and he finds Demi's body and he screams. He screams very funny. Then he runs to the rec room and tells everybody that Demi is dead and they're the most like whatever.
Speaker 2:This scene it's really very very funny, yeah, like the idea of him panicking and everyone else thinking that he's just making it up and like that's a fun dichotomy.
Speaker 2:It's done so jumbled that it never like the two opposing sides, never really solidified to me, so it doesn't land, but I like the idea. I think you know a couple more rewrites, finn, and this could have been a good scene. I do want to say this jason guy, I love the way he runs in this scene. When he runs from cabinet camp he's like he's going all out, he's like tom cruise level of of trying in this run and I I just really appreciate it. I feel like in movies a lot of times we just kind of run, but he has this urgency, the panic in this run that I was like good for you Way to commit. That's all there it is.
Speaker 1:So they find out that the phones are gone, and then they start freaking out. They go there, they find that the body is gone, but there's lots of real blood, and then everybody really freaks out. They go to the cars, the flat tires sorry, real quick.
Speaker 2:There's an almost joke here as well that I almost liked uh, which is the goth psychic girl? Yeah, goes to test the blood, yeah, and I don't know if she smells it or tastes, I couldn't quite tell and she goes oh no, this is demi and that there's. There's a really good joke there that this movie didn't land, but again, like it's the right idea, it's, it's so close in some of these moments um, boom, boom, boom.
Speaker 1:Oh the, the batteries are dead, the tires are flat, they can't get out, and so their plan is to go to one cabin and then ride it out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which is not a terrible idea. Strength in numbers.
Speaker 1:But Jason wants to go out and look for Mike and Miley, because they're not there, I guess.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because we haven't seen them. The group hasn't seen their bodies yet, so they think that they're still somewhere.
Speaker 1:And there's a payphone and there's a coin-operated payphone, so they're going to go to that. So they do a whole drawing of cards. Whoever gets the lowest cards has to go. There's a little bit of a funny bit in there. Yeah, um, and so it's jason and ari and ezra. They go for the phone. Bobby behind, left behind, has bear spray, so he set that up. They have flashlights, lines been cut. There's blood on the fridge. They open the Inside. The fridge is Miley's head. They yell and run. Ari and Ezra go, god only knows where. Jason goes back to the cabin and Bobby gets one of his better jokes. I should have packed my nunchucks, it's a good joke.
Speaker 2:It's a joke. You know what I mean. He wrote himself some jokes. It's a good joke. It's a joke. You know what I mean. Like he wrote himself some jokes, it's good for him. If they had also wrote other people jokes, this probably would be a pretty good movie. He's just written everybody else jokes. Right, maybe he's a very selfish guy, I don't know, maybe he just wrote and Finn was like, hey, write me a joke. And he was like, nope, not going to do it, finn, I will not.
Speaker 1:Just talk about sex. You're the sex god Talk about sex.
Speaker 2:I'm a sex god. I'm Finn Wolfhard. All the ladies love me, gag.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, what do they do?
Speaker 1:next Tony.
Speaker 2:I have no idea. I should read you my notes, Dan you would laugh there are seven of them. They do the.
Speaker 1:Ouija board. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Bobby's afraid of the spirits. So here's the thing, right. Yeah, ouija boards, ouija boards Not that I don't believe. Yes, let me be very clear. Generally, how a Ouija board works is somebody is moving the dial right, like that's generally how they work the planchette. Is that what that's called? Yes you know the name of the moving glass.
Speaker 1:I think that's crazy everyone knows it's called no not don't know, not everybody.
Speaker 2:I've never even heard the word planchette. I've never heard that before in my life and I've done a lot of Ouija boards. Okay, dan, my family used to love we used to do Ouija boards all the time Super into ghosts, by the way. I love it Anyhow. But there's so many hands on this planchette that it's impossible for it to be moving on. You know what I mean. So like, is there a ghost? Is that what we're trying to say? It's weird more.
Speaker 1:The other thing is that there's six hands on this thing and you can't tell what it's saying or doing yeah, we can't. They seem to they're like well, this means this you're like what's happening, are you sure I can't move your head?
Speaker 2:Move your head, guy.
Speaker 1:I can't see the board and that's my point about direction is the way this is shot is terrible. Sure, you, just you don't get any information. Yeah, 100%. So they talked to Ezra who killed you? I don't know they talked.
Speaker 2:I did like that. It was the the act. Is it an acronym? Is that what you call?
Speaker 1:it sure, they just idk or whatever, and I was like that's funny. That was yeah, that's good um, although ezra is not dead, um, uh, then they're like Demi, who killed you. Then there's a scream and Ezra returns and he gets bear sprayed by Bobby right in the eyes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, uh. And then another joke that I like is he yells ghost while he does it. He goes ghost and then sprays it in the face, which is funny on two levels, because if it's a ghost it's not gonna get hurt by bear spray. Um, but I just you know, there are moments with him that I really enjoy. I'd like him to write a movie solo. I think we drop Finn, drop the dead weight and let's try it again.
Speaker 1:Let's do it, bob. Okay, now we cut to Ari. He's tied up, so he's not dead. And then he says fucking bitch, because I think he knows it's a woman, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, okay, he just didn't even register that, I don't think.
Speaker 1:And then the bad guy dips the knife in peanut butter and then stabs him with peanut butter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't think it's funny.
Speaker 1:It just doesn't make any sense in the movie.
Speaker 2:No. I agreed I'm'm telling you I agree with that. I wish that it did make sense in the movie because I like that idea, especially with like a nice slow, like he brings the peanut butter over to him and night slowly uncovers it, you know, dips the knife in there very slow, like I'm torturing you with peanut butter. I think that's a fun idea.
Speaker 1:So, as we're back at the cabin, I don't know. Back at the cabin, ezra's been crying, he's been blinded. He talks about how he'd run away to the theater. They figure out that the killer must be someone they know. For some reason, yeah, I don't know they basically say it's jason, because he took the phones and he found demi and he's old, so they're going to tie him up and then we're gonna torture him to find out where the phones are.
Speaker 1:yeah, this is where you lost me, like the idea that you're going to torture someone based on almost nothing and you're like you're the killer, even though he wasn't out there. You know he was in the cabin with them. Oh no, I guess he went out with them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he also came back.
Speaker 1:It's all weird, he came back almost instantly.
Speaker 2:My thing is like why wouldn't he just bring them to the phones, like it really it should? At this point, people are dying.
Speaker 1:It should be one, well, because they think he's the killer, and so they're gonna but they're like we're gonna.
Speaker 2:They were saying this in front of him, though. Yeah, like we're gonna torture you until he tells where the phones are. That's the moment where he goes. Well, yeah, they're like we're going to. They were saying this in front of him, though. Yeah, like we're going to torture you until he tells where the phones are. That's the moment where he goes. Well, yeah, they're just right there, because, one, I'm not the killer. Two, I want to live and I want to escape this place. Let's find the phones.
Speaker 1:He doesn't know where the phones are.
Speaker 2:That doesn't make any sense. He took them.
Speaker 1:No, he didn't.
Speaker 2:Yes, he did. Jason took the phones.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but then, wherever he put them, the bad guy took them.
Speaker 2:Sure, no, no, okay, I'm understanding that, but they are saying that he took the phones. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I don't know If they torture him. They're like show us where the phones are. He's like I don't know where the phones are. Well, we're going to torture you and then you're going to tell us. Well, then they're torturing him to get information he doesn't even have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's stupid, it's stupid. Yes, we're in agreement that it's stupid, dan.
Speaker 1:Well, just like the idea that the first thing they do in the cabin is go to the Ouija board and then the second thing they're doing is figuring out random person is the bad person, as opposed to someone out there killing people. And then we're going to torture you, but to torture you, they're gonna, they're gonna leave.
Speaker 2:They tie him up and then they all leave except bobby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is weird. Yeah, it's just weird. So claire goes against a fire extinguisher, comes back, knocks out Bobby and save Jason and then, as they're coming back to torture, claire and Jason are running off. Actually, this is a. This is, this is Finn Wolfhard's best, best bit. They're coming at. Finn Wolfhard has a whole tray of water of water and he's brought waters for everyone, and then he falls down and all the waters break and he's uh, he's very distraught that he didn't get to serve and then they give him the button as well.
Speaker 2:At the end of the scene he's like I'll go get more. That's the end of it, which is just. It's funny, but it's also weird don't?
Speaker 1:he had to admit it was funny. He's not funny.
Speaker 2:You know what I guarantee you. Billy wrote that bit okay, so the five.
Speaker 1:Now we got five people in the cabin two people jason and claire that are leaving and they get to just have, like you know, nice calm time as they walk away. You know, debating whether or not they should go back and you know like what are we supposed to do and you're kind of like, who do they? I mean, I understand Jason knows an allegiance, but it is a little murky yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean they had to have hit If we had hit him wanting to run the camp and everyone kind of hating him, Like if we had hit that character stuff a little bit harder, the turn makes more sense when he's like I have to go back, this is my camp. Yeah, this is my camp. I need to save my people, even if they hate me.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, they need to hate him a little more so that it's more of a sacrifice him going back. So they're, they're just hanging out in the cabin. They're just hanging out in the cabin talking about waiting. They're playing Jenga and then they just arbitrarily decide to go look for the phones. Oh no, he hasn't decided to go. They're just talking about possibility of going back because they reach make-out point, which Claire recognizes, jason does not. And then we do a whole thing where he's like, oh, you've been here a lot, and then she's all like no. And where he's like, oh, you've been here a lot, and then she's all like no, and then he's like, oh, and he's sort of freaking out that you know she actually has an active relationship life and he does not.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then the goth girl is in the craft room, she gets stabbed and then she says, finally, so you're like, oh, like, oh, okay, she wants to die. Yeah, what, she's a goth person, so she's okay with just dying right, but again not really how that works.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, and that's not something that has happened at all in the movie prior to this. Yeah, that line can be funny if she's obsessed with death you have to go much.
Speaker 1:Your movie has to be much broader. That a character is fine with themselves being murdered she likes Ouija boards, she wants to die.
Speaker 2:Everyone who uses a Ouija board wants to die. That doesn't make sense, guys. It doesn't make sense. A lot of distance to climb.
Speaker 1:And then we have this weird scene where we're like it doesn't make sense A lot of distance to climb. And then we have this weird scene where we're like is the devil mask looking at itself in a mirror, or are there two devil masks? And it is shot. So weird, so weird that you cannot tell. But then you're like, oh, there's two of them. Yeah, oh, it's two, I see. And then you're like it didn't need to be two at any point in the movie. Nope.
Speaker 2:I mean, usually it is two, though you know, in these types of movies there's always like the leader. Yeah, I mean, that's the scream formula right, there's always two killers, but that's just screaming, right. Well, but you know, great movie to steal from.
Speaker 1:I just had a problem with that. That is, two killers.
Speaker 2:Also Scream Queens two devils. So maybe they just watched Scream Queens and were like let's just make a movie that's kind of like this, but way worse.
Speaker 1:So Chris is walking I guess they're looking for the phones and then he surprises Mike and Demi who are making out, and they're all like, oh, oh, we're found out. So now we know I like this moment, yeah, and talk about it then?
Speaker 2:well, so Jason walks in on them and they're like, oh shit, now they know. And someone grabs a knife. And then Jason, to all of our surprise, is just thrilled that they're alive.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, it's not Jason, it's Chris.
Speaker 2:Wait, who is it?
Speaker 1:It's Chris, is it Chris? Yeah, yeah, yeah, are you sure, absa hundred percent.
Speaker 2:Alright, well then, chris is excited.
Speaker 1:That they're alive. I guess that doesn't make sense, because he is dumber.
Speaker 2:He is the dumb one of the group.
Speaker 1:What I left off is that Jason, right before this, made the decision to go back to camp.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, you're right, you're right Anyhow. So then, instead of being like, oh, you must be the killers, he's just excited that they're alive and they're confused and it's a fun moment. Yeah, it's a fun moment, yeah.
Speaker 1:With Finn Wolfhard actor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, it's better if it's a jason, which is how it goes in my head.
Speaker 1:so you know, there's that um, and then they have a little discussion that the plan is going to shit because they're the two killers.
Speaker 2:We're gonna have to blame it on jason well, because jason's already getting the credit and demi's mad because her whole point is she wanted to get the credit for it, she wanted to get famous, right. So I'm confused Is she trying to live through it and then go to prison, or is she trying to die here and live in infamy?
Speaker 1:She wants to be the sole survivor.
Speaker 2:But it sounds like she wants credit for murdering people, right. I don't know Cause she's mad that Jason's getting the credit for murdering people.
Speaker 1:Well, if she was the see, okay, this is here's. This is what. This is what I thought. She's going to pin it on Jason, right, but she's going to make sure everybody else gets killed, except Jason, I think, and then she'll be the sole survivor, but he'll, and then she'll be the sole survivor, but my feeling was that she wanted to be the final girl, right, right, which is the plot to.
Speaker 2:Scream 4, by the way, spoiler alerts for Scream 4. That's literally the plot to Scream 4, is that Sidney's niece, or something play is the murderer and does it, so she can be the next sydney prescott, the next sole, final girl that's, that's what I, that's what I took from it I under.
Speaker 2:That's what they pivot to, once because she's mad that jason is getting the credit for being the murderer. She's like why? Why do they think it's Jason? Why would they? He's ruining everything. And then Mike is like hey, hey, hey, but we'll be the survivors, we'll be even more famous. So then they pivot to that. But originally it seems like her plan was for everyone to know that she did it, which is very confusing to me.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know, dan it's not a good plan, that's all I'll say. I don't know. It's not a good plan and it's not a good premise.
Speaker 2:We shouldn't be this confused about the scene of the movie. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:no, it should make make a lot of sense. Oh yeah, um. So then they go back, oh, and then the plan is going to shit. We wanted to get famous young hot couple survives yeah, yeah, that's, that's the plan uh, okay, so they go back now. They're with everybody and they're like let's make videos, right? I don't know Right, yeah, jason climbs through the window and gets captured by Mike Ezra's on the stage.
Speaker 2:This is my favorite. This is my favorite moment of the movie.
Speaker 1:What happens in that Ezra's?
Speaker 2:on the stage Ezra's death.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he breaks his leg. Oh, the bad guy comes over there, kicks him and breaks his leg and then axes him to the head.
Speaker 2:Now, I think this is Ezra. I think it could also be Finn Chris. I honestly don't remember.
Speaker 1:Maybe you'll remember this.
Speaker 2:But Someone sees the killer.
Speaker 1:It has to be.
Speaker 2:Ezra Shannon sees the killer behind ezra, right, yeah, and she yells. She's like look out the killer's on your left. And ezra shouts back, stage left. And I fucking lost my mind that if you're not in the theater, okay, the directions are different. We have stage left, stage right, which is different depending on which. It's like if I'm watching the play it's different than if I'm in the play. So we use stage left, stage right, so the actors know which way we're talking about. It doesn't really matter, but the fact. No, dan, see the joke's funny though. Did you laugh at the joke? Don't pretend to sleep. It was a good joke. Okay, I didn't laugh, but it's a good joke.
Speaker 1:Okay, it's a good joke.
Speaker 2:I didn't laugh, but it's a good joke. All right, I laughed my ass off because you don't really hear a stage left joke all that often and I was pretty excited about it.
Speaker 1:So that was good. Shannon's in there. Chris and the devil. So the devil continues in the theater. Chris is hiding, shannon goes and finds Bobby. Demi wakes up, jason and wants to know where Claire is. Then he starts yelling. Help, help, help. The devil is searching the prop area for Chris.
Speaker 2:Bobby lures the devil off, and that's the moment when he goes in right to save Chris who, bobby, bobby, yeah, bobby goes in to save Chris. Yeah, so right before he goes in is a really great scene between him and Shannon, yes, which is when he says something on the lines of you don't deserve him, but I also don't deserve him.
Speaker 1:Something like that. He says exactly that. Yeah, the lines are confusing.
Speaker 2:I don't deserve him, but I also don't deserve something like that, exactly that. Yeah, the lines are confusing, I don't quite understand them, but my favorite part is he then is like doing his brave thing, which he did with jumping over the fire, yeah, and as he was about to enter the door, she was like it's a suicide mission and he stopped. He's like why would?
Speaker 2:you say that I was trying to pump myself up for my big hero moment. Why would you say that? I was trying to pump myself up for my big hero moment? Why would you say that? And it was wonderful, it was really funny, it was really nice, I loved it.
Speaker 1:It was a great scene. He's in a different movie than the rest of them.
Speaker 2:He is in a different movie. But it's weird because he wrote the movie so like everyone should be in that movie. It's so weird. He co-wrote the movie. You're right, he co-wrote the movie and I'm I'm starting to believe that finn wrote 90 in the movie and he just wrote his own 10 and he's like well, I would like to do this movie differently, because he is, his character, is in a different movie and that movie is great. I want that movie.
Speaker 1:So bobby goes in there and lures the devil off, shannon goes in and he's all like you came back for me, I love you. I wrote Claire, which is weird. Well, they're trying to do this whole bit where they're falling in love, but they're not really falling in love. It's just speed where you can't really fall in love. But yeah, it doesn't work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it doesn't work. It's all weird. I wrote Claire hits Mike.
Speaker 1:When did she hit Mike? Why did she hit Mike? I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I didn't write that note down.
Speaker 1:Then somebody says to Demi, demi, this isn't you, it's Mike, mike, oh, and then she goes crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jason says that, as he's tied up. Yeah, jason says that, as he's tied up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's like, Demi, this isn't you. And she's all like, yeah, Mike made me do this. Mike, Mike, Mike, it's all about Mike.
Speaker 2:She plays this scene really well, like the I'm crazy scene. It's nice. She did a good job.
Speaker 1:She did a good job. Then we have the big. Is this the whole? Oh, then Mike and Bobby are starting to fight in the cabin, yeah, and then Demi gives a little exposition to Jason. Tied up, I wanted to kill you losers for four years and now she's jealous that you'll be more famous than me. Claire comes back with the bow. Claire has the bow and Demi has the knife to Jason's throat. Bobby and Mike are fighting in the one cabin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, different cabin, yep, two different areas Then he sort of flashes back to the jump in the fire and he looks at the fire. There's a fire raging with wood and he's like he reaches into the wood stove because he's gonna pick up the flaming wood and use it as a weapon. And what happens?
Speaker 2:what happens when it burns his hand and he drops it and screams, yeah, like it's great that was.
Speaker 1:That was probably my favorite. It's a one it's. He's great because it was great in this it was a call back to the weird jumping the fire.
Speaker 2:and then you know, reality instantly affects him Because he does the chant, he's like Bobby, bobby Does it himself, which is funny Grabs it and he's like, oh, that's too hot, nope, got to drop it, screams it. It's great, it's a really nice moment.
Speaker 1:Mike's beating him up.
Speaker 2:And then I guess you know Bobby's on the floor and I guess mike has a gigantic erection.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I again. They can't make me laugh so hard, you can't show us, but they know and they can't over reference it.
Speaker 2:But you're like, but they have a nice little conversation about it and my fate he's mike apparently gets aroused by killing and then having sex afterwards. So it's not that he's enjoying killing him. So he's yelling at bobby and he's like this isn't for you. Man, look away. And I was fucking rolling, I'm telling. This scene, this entire last act with bobby, is so, so good and the rest of the movie is terrible. Right, like if the, if the movie was as good as this these last three scenes with Bobby this would be one of my favorite movies. I swear to God, it's really nice. And then he's like yeah, this isn't for you. Have you ever had sex after killing someone? It's amazing.
Speaker 1:No, so that's not what he says. What he says exactly is do you know how much better pussy is after killing someone? You're just like oh man.
Speaker 2:Do you know what Bobby says?
Speaker 1:What does he say?
Speaker 2:He asks, he goes no, no, is it better?
Speaker 1:And that moment to me he does, and that moment is what drives that home to me.
Speaker 2:Like he breaks the, I'm scared of dying. To be like no, is it better? And then goes back to being scared and it's so good, it's lovely. It's lovely, it's wonderful. This scene's great.
Speaker 1:And so I guess there's this pocket knife in a frame on the wall. That's given as a prize and it busts, and now it's on the thing. And also, I think Jason was always second place to getting the pocket knife. I think, yeah, but I don't.
Speaker 2:yeah, he's always second place in the archery thing, but that doesn't make sense to me. As a gift for winning archery, a pocket knife. I don't understand. If I'm being honest, basically you are right.
Speaker 1:There's a pocket knife, Mike is able to finally reach it based on some maneuver and just sticks Mike right. I mean Bobby sticks Mike right in the neck and kills him After saying his line I'm a liar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:And then Jason starts doing the lines that he used to teach Claire to use the bow, so that she uses the bow properly.
Speaker 2:He acts the shit out of this.
Speaker 1:He does a real good job.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's too good for this movie. But also this scene's almost too real for this movie in my mind. In juxtaposition of the last scene where we're talking about boners, it's a weird cut back and forth to a very serious death scene where he's literally crying. He's got tears rolling down. This guy acts the shit out of it, but it's just those two things in the same movie is weird. I don't pick one.
Speaker 1:You got to pick one of those two movies. Yeah, so it gets her right in the eye and then she ends up making one last move and then Claire, just like, stomps her to death.
Speaker 2:Like curb stomps her, which was pretty intense yeah.
Speaker 1:They go and they save Bobby. Actually, this is Jason pulls Bobby out and then he's got a knife stuck in him and Bobby, like, pulls out the knife, pulls the knife out. Yep, actually, I really like this one. Jason's like you're not supposed to do that, it's very dangerous. Yeah, and he's like tell them I died a hero's death. And then jace is like I mean it's really just a two-inch wound you're gonna be, you're gonna be fine the two-inch wound was like that's a really good line yeah, it's funny and then chris and shannon do I don't love you, but let's make out anyways.
Speaker 2:And then doesn't unneeded and doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1:And as the sun rises, uh, Jason and Claire are there and they someone thanks someone for coming back, and then next year more responsibilities. And then he's like I'm kidding and they kiss, but he's not kidding, he's coming back. Oh, he, he does a whole setup of how the camp could work, even with all the murders.
Speaker 2:And here's my problem is that they do write that off as a joke. Yeah, I don't like that. I think he needs to be serious in that moment, like, instead of them hooking up, this character is like we can make this work, we'll do this, this and this, and she's like what the hell that's the right ending for this movie. In my opinion.
Speaker 1:Well, you see, that's what you're writing him as a real character, and where?
Speaker 2:it's like it's a movie. Dan, he should have a real care, but I mean that's.
Speaker 1:It would be really interesting if that is, if you did end it like that where he's all like, and she's just like, just shut up and kisses you know, you know what are you talking about because it is really who he is, this camp is who he is and he's 100.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know weird movie, but again I didn't. I thought I was gonna hate this movie I didn't hate this movie.
Speaker 1:I didn't hate this movie. How many squirts does it get done?
Speaker 2:You can't do that.
Speaker 1:I can do whatever I want.
Speaker 2:Can't steal other people's things. Again, you finish.
Speaker 1:This movie puts us back in that classification. That's happened to us five or six times on this show, starting with what was the Wachowski's brother? What was that movie?
Speaker 2:Cloud Atlas.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know where you watch a movie and it has a bunch of flaws. But you're like there's some interesting things explored and some decent comedy that occurs and you're like, and I thought the character work was really good top to bottom. Whether or not they were all in the same movie, you can complain about Finn, but everybody else, I think, did good work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no. And again it's 90 minutes. We're not here for two hours. I'm not feeling like I'm just drowning in this movie. It's quick, it's fun. Good for them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, good for them.
Speaker 2:Good for them.
Speaker 1:Smells like my wife is burning down the house.
Speaker 2:Should you check? Just touch the floor, see if it's hot. I think that's how you do it.
Speaker 1:It's the floor, because the heat radiates right through the floor.
Speaker 2:Right, that's how it works.
Speaker 1:That's why they tell you to get down on the floor Because it's hotter there. Keep you warm and you won't freeze up.
Speaker 2:Fire safety.
Speaker 1:I'm there for Finn's next writing and directing.
Speaker 2:I'm there for Billy Brick's next writing directing Is it B-R-I-C-K-S? Nope, not at all. It's B-R-Y-K. I'm adding an S. I don't even know what I'm doing. It could be Billy Brake. It could be a lot of things, I don't know. Billy, if you're out there, let me know Brake Brake.
Speaker 1:Okay, now we talk about something we liked. I've been watching some of the quintessential TV shows. The prisoner Patrick McGowan's quintessential TV show. He did like a. He did this show called danger man where he played like a James Bond, he kind of spy, okay, for a couple of years and then after he was done with that they were like you want to make another show? And he's like, yes, I'm going to play a thing where the powers that be kidnapped me and want to get information out of me by putting me in this weird village and every episode is this nightmare, paranoiac thing where they're trying to break his will. What are we talking? What year is this? 1966 and 1967. Wow, it's a. It's an insane show. We used to when we were kids. We we watched it on pbs and you know we're just like what is happening?
Speaker 2:what is this called?
Speaker 1:the prisoner the prisoner and all the episodes are on amazon with commercials and it's uh pretty fun I might have to check it out at some point.
Speaker 2:That sounds interesting.
Speaker 1:And it takes place in this weird little village called Point Marion. Ah, point Marion, do you know what that is? Oh, okay, it's this weird little village that looks like you can't even talk about it. You have to look it up. You'll just be like what is?
Speaker 2:this place.
Speaker 1:There are all these little shaped buildings and things.
Speaker 2:What are you talking about?
Speaker 1:There's a giant chess set in the garden.
Speaker 2:What is?
Speaker 1:this place.
Speaker 2:I love it.
Speaker 1:I love it, tony, tell us about what you've been digging out there. Well, that's not what we're doing, tan, we're taking a moment.
Speaker 2:We're going to take a moment of silence for the fallen that is. Suits LA has officially been canceled by NBC. Huge mistake, you know. I think we can all agree that's a huge, huge mistake. Let me tell you why, dan. Is the show good? Not really. Is it getting ratings? Probably not at all. I love Stephenven amell and this guy can't catch a break. Heels hold on though. Hold on though. He did heels for two seasons and that show is great. That show is genuinely a good show. It was well reviewed. People liked it. It didn't get a lot of viewership because it's on stars. Nobody has stars, nobody gives a shit about stars, so that gets canceled and they give them this job.
Speaker 2:That's supposed to be like a, a home run, like it's supposed. You know, because it's coming off of suits is giant boom in the pandemic. You're like, yeah, suits la will make a sequel that's going to make a billion dollars. It's going to run for five seasons. They cancel it after one. Now the show's bad. I just want to reiterate that it's not a good show, um but. But it's not his fault and I think that the the last few episodes. We have one more episode left before it's then forever, and I think the last two have been a little bit better there. It's finally leaning into what it should have been the whole time, which is like a dramedy as opposed to just pretty much straight drama. Oh, my goodness, look how cute she is. Oh, hi, baby, I just you know. I just think one more season would have been nice, just one more, just to see if it could find its footing.
Speaker 1:I watched this channel on YouTube called Legal. Eagle it's a guy that does a great name, he's like a lawyer and then he just talks about you know lawyer stuff. Sure, he went through and talked about the first episode of Suits LA.
Speaker 2:Oh God, I actually I need to find this. So I'm going to find keep going, but I need to watch this.
Speaker 1:And I watched that and it was just like it. Just the whole show doesn't make any sense it just doesn't make any sense I agree again not a good show.
Speaker 2:It's poorly written, doesn't make a lot of sense, but if you get past the first eight, episodes like the last two have been pretty fun. Um, I just think he started in a really weird convoluted place for no reason.
Speaker 1:You can see they're like oh, we're at this firm, but everybody gets fired. And this other guy wants to leave, but we only have this one lady who's the pro bono lady and she's like go fuck yourselves. I'm the pro bono lady. I don't got to do what you tell me to do you're saying I don't know anything. I don't care, just just introduce us to a stable thing that does a stable thing right then then mess with it.
Speaker 2:That's the end of season one, right, the end of season one is this merger where they cut him out and you're like, oh shit, his best friend cut him out. If you do that in the first episode, we've never even met these people. I don't. I don't know that they're best friends. It doesn't make any. It's so bad. The right now you get me on the other side of this thing. I think we should have renewed it for season two. All right, nope, it's a poorly written show. It's bad. He really messed it up. That's all sad day. That's all I want to say. I'm sorry, steven, I hope you find something better.
Speaker 1:Tony, who are the two brothers that are possibly the greatest who Hold on?
Speaker 2:What's happening?
Speaker 1:Who is the greatest brother team writer? Directors that have made hit after hit, critical darlings, but occasionally successful at the box office too, using some of the greatest actors and actresses of all time the.
Speaker 2:Fairley brothers.
Speaker 1:Creating a spinoff, headed by some other guy, of a series of shows called Fargo that are all very interesting, except the one that was kind of weird. Maybe I'll go back and watch that one, but it's too weird. Who are those two brothers?
Speaker 2:I don't like them.
Speaker 1:But you know who they are.
Speaker 2:Never been a fan, never will be a fan. I mean, I liked Fargo, I guess, I guess, but I feel like that's kind of it. What was the one Raising Arizona? I mean, I liked Fargo, I guess, I guess, but I feel like that's kind of it. They did what was the one Raising. Arizona. All right. No, we talk about Raising Arizona every time we talk about that. But yes, I liked Raising Arizona. It doesn't count. It was so long ago, it doesn't count. The Inside, llewyn Davis.
Speaker 1:You like the Inside Llewyn Davis Really.
Speaker 2:I liked it because it made me very sad about my life. It spoke to me on a very deep level where he's like an aspiring artist that can't make shit.
Speaker 1:Oh he sucked like you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he was talented. The difference is he was actually really talented. He was it just couldn't make it work and I just suck. You know what I mean. But there were parallels. What movie are we doing? You know what I mean? So like, but they were parallels. What?
Speaker 1:movie are we doing? Well, what happened is I don't know if they got sick of each other or whatever, but the one brother, he went out on his own. He went out on his own and he put out a new movie called. Or. There's a new movie coming out called Candy Don't Starring Candy.
Speaker 2:Don't.
Speaker 1:C-A-N-D-Y comma D-O-N. Apostrophe T. Candy Don't, I believe, is what it's called, which he co-wrote with somebody and I believe directed but was starring Margaret Qualley. It's got some Aubrey Plaza in there and some man who has a big name which I can't remember right now. I can't find this. It's called Candy C-A-N-D-Y comma don't. D-o-n. Apostrophe T, I believe.
Speaker 2:I can't find it anywhere. I can't find it. How?
Speaker 1:can you not find that? It should just be there. I wrote.
Speaker 2:Candy, don't Hold on. Which Coen brother is it? Is it Ethan? Ethan Coen brother is it? Is it Ethan Ethan Coen?
Speaker 1:I believe it is All right, let me just look it up on him. It'd be pretty funny if.
Speaker 2:I got the name completely wrong on that movie. I don't see anything, dan, are you sure? Maybe it's Joel, I think it's Ethan.
Speaker 1:Coen. Maybe it is Joel Coen, I think it's Ethan Coen though.
Speaker 2:Hold on, I'm going to look them both up. Joel looks weirder. There's no way, it's.
Speaker 1:Joel. Well, we're not doing that movie anyways. It's not out yet Okay, all right, move on. Before that movie he did one called Drive Away Dolls, also starring Margaret Qualley. It's called Honey Don't. Oh, I thought it was Candy Don't.
Speaker 2:Sorry, and I just wasn't even smart enough to read Honey Don't and realize that you were talking about that and not Candy Don't. But it is in fact Ethan Coen. Honey Don't is the movie Continue what were?
Speaker 1:you saying Before that he did a movie called Drive Away Dolls. That's the movie we're doing. Okay, we're doing drive-away dolls, all right, oh but the point is, I watched the trailer for Honey Don't.
Speaker 2:Honey Don't.
Speaker 1:And I was just like this looks so terrible. And I'd heard that drive-away dolls did not do well and was not that well regarded. So I was like why don't we give Tony a chance to look at a Coen brother's?
Speaker 2:movie.
Speaker 1:And we'll see if we can figure out what went wrong.
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, the Coens were involved In any way, that's usually a bad sign.
Speaker 1:Except the ones that you like.
Speaker 2:Eh, I mean, I don't love them. You know I'm not like, oh, these are great movies, but they're palatable, they're fine.
Speaker 1:Didn't you ever watch the bowling? One about the bowling. You know John Goodman and the dude.
Speaker 2:The Big Lebowski I hate. I mean we'll get a lot of. I do not like the Big Lebowski at all. I think he's great. Jeff Bridges is great in that movie. That movie sucks. I hate that movie. I think it's so dumb. Oh, let's have a heaven. It's the dream. It's all dumb. I hate everything about it. But I was going to say I think Todd made me watch a different movie. They did Right, I think Todd.
Speaker 1:Todd made you, tied you down. Yeah, tim Robbins was in it. Oh, the Hudsucker Proxy.
Speaker 2:The Hudsucker Proxy and I did like that movie. I did enjoy that. He made me watch it and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:Jennifer Jason Leigh. Well, boys, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2:It was a very long time ago so I don't think those count. It's like a statue of limitations, right? You know what I mean. If it's longer than 20 years ago, it doesn't count on your resume anymore. Did you ever see the rooster cogburn movie with uh, jeff bridges and the wild west? One true grit, or whatever.
Speaker 1:I hate that movie, that movie sucks you hate that movie.
Speaker 2:Man, the kid's great. She's amazing in that movie oh my god she's amazing doesn't mean I enjoy the movie but see, the thing about that movie is it's.
Speaker 1:It's a incredibly faithful adaptation, so it's not it's sure, sure, sure, sure yeah I don't know if you hate it. You hate it.
Speaker 2:You hate the westernness as opposed to the coen brothersness, because I don't know if I like westerns in like, in like their own, you know, because you know wild guns is that what it's called emilio and his group. That's great movie, um, but other than that can't think of a western that I like, genuinely enjoy. Man 310 to Yuma was pretty good, yeah that's a remake also. Oh sure, yeah haven't seen the original yeah, I've seen both of course you have because I'm an American.
Speaker 1:Um, so there it is, and I'm proud to'm an American.
Speaker 2:So there it is, and I'm proud to be an American.
Speaker 1:We're going to do driveway dolls and we're going to try to understand me A fan of the Coen brothers, you not a fan of the Coen brothers, and what happens?
Speaker 2:Hail Caesar. What a garbage movie.
Speaker 1:I didn't care for that one, so we're going to Try to figure out what's going on With these new Coen-ish Coen Half a Coen Coen-ish I like Coen-ish Half the Coen brothers.
Speaker 2:Semi-Coin, oh come on Semi-Coin. Semi-coin, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1:That's actually a joke. Tony wrote a joke. Took him an hour and a half. But he wrote one. It took him an hour and a half, but he wrote one.
Speaker 2:Well, I just got this information eight minutes ago. It only took me eight minutes to write it.
Speaker 1:All right If you like the show, give us a thumbs up, leave a comment or even subscribe, and we'll come back next week talking about Drive Away Dolls.
Speaker 2:Goodbye everybody. Thanks. Hey watch it with Dan and Tony. Hey watch it with Dan and Tony. Hey watching with Dan and Tony, it's like watching yeah.