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Hate Watching Cleaner: Squeegee of Death
When Joey, a seemingly ordinary window cleaner played by Daisy Ridley, reports for her night shift at a towering London skyscraper, she has no idea she's about to be thrust into a deadly game of survival. As she dangles precariously outside the building's glass exterior, a sophisticated group of eco-terrorists infiltrates a corporate gala inside, taking hostages and making demands that blur the line between justice and vengeance.
Cut off from help and with only her wits and climbing skills to rely on, Joey becomes the unexpected wild card in a high-stakes confrontation that grows more morally complex by the minute. The terrorists, led by a charismatic activist played briefly by Clive Owen, aren't just seeking ransom – they're exposing horrific environmental crimes committed by the very executives now held hostage. As corporate secrets bubble to the surface, Joey must decide whether she's fighting to save the innocent or protecting the guilty.
"Cleaner" delivers heart-pounding vertical action sequences while forcing viewers to question their own moral compasses. When the terrorists reveal that the corporation has silenced whistleblowers through murder, the traditional lines between hero and villain begin to dissolve. Joey's struggle isn't just about physical survival – it's about navigating an ethical minefield where doing the right thing becomes increasingly unclear.
The film challenges conventional action thriller formulas by presenting antagonists with legitimate grievances and protagonists with questionable motives. As Joey fights to protect her vulnerable brother caught in the chaos, she must also confront uncomfortable truths about the powerful people she's trying to save. In a world where corporate crimes often go unpunished, "Cleaner" asks: Who are the real terrorists, and what price are we willing to pay for justice?
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Oh, you're right. Yeah, so full disclosure. I watched this full week ago, so let's see how this goes. Oh, you didn't rewatch it again. I was really thinking I was going to and then I thought about it last night. I was like boy, I just don't like this movie enough to watch it again.
Speaker 2:I thought you might like this one.
Speaker 1:Nope, hey watch it with Dan and Tony. Hey watch it with Dan and Tony.
Speaker 2:I'm purple, I'm maroon, it looks like you're purple too.
Speaker 1:Well, your purple's different than mine, so I was trying to like what's a different shade of purple.
Speaker 2:Slightly different shade of purple.
Speaker 1:Ah, well then the color I'm. The other color, purple. Oh that would have been a good joke. The other color, purple, oh damn it. Can we start the show over again? I got a great joke, dan.
Speaker 2:Oh, you got a great joke. Nope, we can't. Yeah, fair enough On this show. We watch a movie, then we talk about the movie. This week, tony picked a movie.
Speaker 1:Wait, hold on. Yeah, I picked a movie and right before we went live I was like I didn't like this movie. And you were like, oh, I thought you were going to like the movie and now you're telling me it's not even a movie. You put quotes around movie.
Speaker 2:It actually is a movie Barely. Oh, wow, I think it conforms to movie okay.
Speaker 1:I mean, it doesn't.
Speaker 2:It's a weird one.
Speaker 1:What is it, don oh? So this is cleaner, not the cleaner, which is what I thought it was for ever since I saw the trailer, but it's just cleaner. Daisley Ridley.
Speaker 2:Daisy. What's her name? Not Daisley Ridley Daisy?
Speaker 1:I like Daisley. I think that's nice. See, it'd make her stand out. Clive Owen for three to four minutes Sort of you buy him for one day and that's all you can afford.
Speaker 2:that's, that's a good move and some guy they hope becomes a star well, so I was doing.
Speaker 1:That is the only research I did was. I was like who the hell is this guy? Because one. I didn't think he was very good and we'll. We'll get into that more, um, but you kill Clive Owen and give the reins to this frickin' twerp.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:Apparently Frickin' twerp.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I was going to go that hard on him.
Speaker 1:I'm not a fan of this guy, but he's a huge social media star. He's got like 2 million followers on Instagram, so I'm assuming that that's kind of the idea is that he's you know, he's got a following, so maybe people will see the movie because he's in it. Well, I don't know, but he wasn't very good, so I think this is not going to work. This reminds me of did you? I don't think we did it, but but did we watch he's All that, the sequel to she's All that? I did not know there was a sequel to she's All that.
Speaker 2:Oh shoot.
Speaker 1:I should have picked it for this show.
Speaker 2:Just as we referenced. She's All that because we were watching something and there was a woman on there and she looked just like what's her name. When she dressed up as a man, I was like, hmm, kind of, kind of, given that she's all that vibes, I'm like not really what you want to go for I'm glad that you referenced it, though you know like keep it in.
Speaker 1:The keep it in the pop, pop culture moment. That's good, uh. Anyhow, he's all that hired uh this lady who's a massive, massive social media star oh, I think it didn.
Speaker 2:Oh, I think you talked about this.
Speaker 1:Nobody saw the movie, even though Well, I mean, yes, it was bad, but also nobody saw it, because people that watch social media for one to two minutes tops don't want to go see a whole movie. It's not a big crossover audience, so anyhow.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's going to work out for us because you're a hot dude on the. The social media does not mean people want to see you be an action star yeah, and I don't.
Speaker 1:He's weird looking. I mean, if you go to his social media, that is all very like oh I'm so sexy, look at my chest.
Speaker 2:But so it is just, it is just glamour shots, it's not him like actually a lot of it is glamour shots.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's also an adrenaline junkie, so there's that. Wow, okay, anyhow, that's the. I had to look that up because I was like who is this guy that they think can like be the villain?
Speaker 2:does he do the jumping out of the plane with the suit? That doing that shit?
Speaker 1:I don't know, maybe that sounds great, you want me to do a deep dive on his instagram right now.
Speaker 2:Live on the show.
Speaker 1:Everybody his name is taz skyler, which can't be I'm sure he's born with that name on it what shall we name him?
Speaker 2:we're bringing a new skyler into the world. This one should be the.
Speaker 1:Taz Skyler Tasmanian Skyler.
Speaker 2:I don't know about him.
Speaker 1:Okay, so the movie's the Cleaner, no the movie is Cleaner, cleaner, yeah, not the Cleaner it turns out Daisy Ridley is a window cleaner. I would disagree. Just based on this movie. She might have that job, but she does not do the job. That's her doing it. Just awful, just so bad.
Speaker 1:Maybe there's not really a window there. Maybe that's how fake it is. Maybe she's just in the middle of the air pretending on a green screen, but she's not cleaning any windows. Did you think she came to me at a stoplight and tried to squeegee my windshield and did a job like that? I'd be like no tip for you, lady. Get out of here, nope.
Speaker 2:Wow, tony's no tipping, look out. Did you think that maybe at some point there would be like some meta understanding of what cleaner means? Like maybe she'd clean up the mess I I guess some, just something, because it was so, not that it was just kind of like the window cleaner was not really part of her character, it was just an explanation as to why she was in a location.
Speaker 1:yeah, why would she ever be in this building? She cleans windows, I don't know. Okay, guys.
Speaker 2:Now I have another question for you, yeah, which I could ask later, but I'm going to ask now, just because she works at night.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Do you think there's any window cleaner in the world that works at night?
Speaker 1:Honestly, I don't know. I don't live in a city, you know what I mean. I live in a suburb, so window cleaning not a huge thing here, true, but I do feel like generally you see them in the mornings you know like right like I feel like a night time hanging from a building just adds a bunch of unnecessary danger to it. I don't know, maybe I could be wrong.
Speaker 2:And yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about the movie. Talk about we set up the beginning of the movie. Let's see her as a child. What happens in her childhood?
Speaker 1:She crawls around on the cupboards.
Speaker 2:It's so stupid. Scene, one act one Child crawls around on her cupboard while her parents beat their autistic brother in the other room. She doesn't even crawl to get away. She just sort of starts on one side of the room, crawls across the outside room, crawls up the window for some unknowable reason which seems incredibly dangerous, opens the window and then just kicks her legs out the thing and enjoys the London skyline.
Speaker 1:The London breeze, as they say. And that's your opening, that's your action-packed opening, that's how you start the movie. Just like well, she's a climber. Keep that in mind, keep that in mind everybody. But don't keep that in mind, because when she does climb.
Speaker 2:She's all like this ah, oh jesus oh my god, you know like isn't that the? One thing that she should be like. She should be freaking spider-man since no, no no, you see, you're misunderstanding.
Speaker 1:So she climbed when she was eight and then didn't climb anymore until this movie. This was like bringing it back out in her. You know what I mean? Okay, this is the dumbest intro to a movie and I feel bad laughing, because when you describe this scene it's very traumatic, the way it's like they're screaming at this poor child. But it's the fun, it's hilarious, and the whole time you're like, okay, is something going to happen? No, it's not going to happen. She doesn't even need to climb on anything. She just climbs up on the cupboards and, like Spider-Man's, around for no reason. She could just walk up the sink, that's all she has to do. I don't understand one second of this intro at all.
Speaker 2:There's not like traps between her and that window.
Speaker 1:She's not like navigating.
Speaker 2:The dad has put flypaper out just to make sure she doesn't do this.
Speaker 1:Or if she snuck out the window and did a cool shimmy down the building to a neighbor's house because that's her solace when her parents are yelling, I'd be like, okay, she did something, she does nothing, she accomplishes nothing in this scene. And then once she gets to the window, she's just like she just hangs out. Yep, she's just like oh great, now I can't hear them three feet behind me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she can still hear it, and it doesn't seem overly concerned that the dad's going to come in there and push her out the window. Oh my god, when the beating is coming, you're like freaking out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you gotta go. Yeah, she's cool Flipping butts.
Speaker 2:It's bizarre, real weird 20 years later wakes up. I found my new pet peeve for every movie oh god, yeah, what is it? My new pet peeve is the alarm goes off. She wakes up, she has tattoos and a full beauty makeup ah, yeah, for sure I can't take the full beauty makeup with perfect hair.
Speaker 2:You know like mess your hair up a little and then have her run a comb through it. You can't wake makeup with perfect hair. You know like mess your hair up a little and then have her run a comb through it. You can't wake up with perfect hair.
Speaker 1:You just can't. No, I never do. And look how short my hair is and there's still like tufts every time and I got to wet it a little and just kind of fix it, Just smudge it just a touch, Because other people know you get little. What are they called Colics? Is that what they're? When they're like there's like a line I think they're called cow licks, Cow licks Like as if a cow licked my head and then it stuck up. That can't be right.
Speaker 2:Is that right? Conan O'Brien's hair? That move is a cow lick.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Well then, what's a colic? Isn't that a thing, colic?
Speaker 2:is what babies get when they cough and shit.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's a bad thing. Oh, it's when a healthy baby cries inconsolably for prolonged periods. Okay, well, I don't have that. Thank God, you're right, I must have a cowlick. Yeah, it's a cowlick. Been saying that wrong for 40 years of my life. Great.
Speaker 2:So we throw on some rock music, we do a montage. Tony, what time was she waking up at?
Speaker 1:Oh, I didn't even notice what time the clock said. I bet it said 9 o'clock, 11.30. Pm AM Damn it idiot. No PM. It's almost Starts at 9. She's going to work at 1130 pm Going to work at 1130 pm. That's a. That's. How can you even sleep that late? How old is she? She's in her, she's 28, 29, maybe 30.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, it was just 20 years later. She was not nine or 10. She was, you don't think?
Speaker 1:so I would say she was seven or eight, that's what she seemed. I don't know when that comes, you know, but that's too old to be sleeping Like 1130,.
Speaker 2:they don't even give an explanation as to why she's sleeping, was she?
Speaker 1:out partying last night. What's going on here?
Speaker 2:Actually she has no life, that we know. Sure, she like has no time for her brother really, but she also doesn't have a life because she's a window cleaner.
Speaker 1:So she's often sick? Well, she sleeps all the time. How? Because she's a window cleaner so she's often sick.
Speaker 2:Well, she sleeps all the time. How could she hang out with her brother? She's got to get 12 to 15 hours of sleep a day. She takes her motorcycle but she gets a call that her brother's in trouble, so she goes. Her brother is supposedly autistic. Yeah, we just watched the whole the new season of love on the spectrum and oh, great, great show, great people, great. You know everything about that shows. A hundred percent Wonderful.
Speaker 2:And you're just like you're going to cast, like a totally non-nerd, a virgin person as someone with autism and then just make it weird 're just like, yeah, oh, have be autistic, e sort of now you know you can't do a thing, so just say well, my autism just kicked in and I, I can't walk up these stairs yeah, I not that and we you know we shouldn't talk because we're uh, not a part of the community, but do in general.
Speaker 1:Would people say like, call it out like that, that they have autism, that it's, that it's happening, like he seemed to like when it was triggered. He called it out several times.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of, I mean, and that's the thing about it is you have a lot of things you can look at to try to build a character that's autistic sure and you have to give them some, because he doesn't have any mannerisms.
Speaker 2:He has no mannerisms and everybody on like this show and the people that you see. Even if they're pretty darn, functioning and living on their own and doing all these things, they still have very interesting, very particular mannerisms that build into that character. A lot of people have hard time eye contact. I know with me I hated eye contact. For 30 years of my life. I never did eye contact with anyone. I hated it. I never knew why, but it's one of those things where you're like when you're a person that's like that that kind of stuff happens to you.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying I'm autistic, but I could feel some of the impulses that these people have at times. And you're like oh okay, I see where this is coming from, and so you know, and why was he autistic?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean there's no other than maybe the sympathy card, right? I don't know, I don't know, he doesn't, you know he isn't like a limiting factor in her adventure.
Speaker 2:I mean other than him being there.
Speaker 1:Right, and maybe that was their only way of being like well, why would he be stuck there?
Speaker 2:Yeah, You're making him autistic so he can't take a taxi or can't take care of himself, and that she has to take care of him Like he's a baby kind of, and she doesn't really do that, no.
Speaker 1:So even if that's your reason, it's not a good reason.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. It's very, very built in, so he's at this. I don't know if it's kind of a school, it's a care home and so he's gotten thrown out.
Speaker 1:Okay, of another one. Right, they say another one. Oh, this is the ninth one, yeah.
Speaker 2:We do a bunch of bits with that. You know, this is where they save their. Comedy is to like do bits about the autistic brother and you're just like oh God, this is your bits. Well, I mean there are no other bits.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wish that there were. Trust me.
Speaker 2:So her motorcycle doesn't work unknowable reasons. They catch, try to catch the bus. She keeps cursing. He doesn't like her cursing for an unknowable reason.
Speaker 1:Also a bit that we'd never play out in the rest of the movie yeah, never happens again set up a big which you would think the cursing would get worse with all the murdering that's about to happen, but it's fine.
Speaker 2:Nope, nope, we'll set up a character interaction. We will never use it again.
Speaker 1:Or even like with the bad guy at some point that would be. You know that would be a fun little bit to run.
Speaker 2:She gets there just in time. Oh, she rides in the elevator with the big boss guy and then he says something rude to somebody and then she mouths off to literally one of the richest people on the planet.
Speaker 1:And you know, in a roundabout way her boss, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and and when she, and then she goes up to see her boss and then she seems to think she's insulated somehow.
Speaker 1:A person who is a piece of shit window cleaner, who could be fired for no reason, but she is, apparently because the boss knows, the boss says something and it's like, oh, you lipped off in the elevator and she's like, yep, and that's that was it. That was it because then the boss is like we need to fire her and somebody says you can't fire her. Didn't all that happen? And there was no real reason other than like, well, it'll look bad if you fire her, so don't do it. I don't know man who cares?
Speaker 2:I have no idea.
Speaker 1:Literally nothing, nobody would ever know If they fired a window cleaner. Nope, that wouldn't make the papers.
Speaker 2:Let's just say that Talk to me about the window cleaner control center.
Speaker 1:Is that what it is? Because I was so confused when they walked in I was like, okay, this is the security room, but there is all controls for the. What is this thing called the trolley, the vertical trolley?
Speaker 2:What would you call that? In a painter's they call it something. We'll just call it. I think I called it the elevator.
Speaker 1:All right, the outside elevator, we'll call it. So. I'm confused and it seems like both of those people in the room were dedicated to comms with the cleaners. He has a thing literally within hand's reach that can't control her elevator but I and I assume the other ones are also other elevators right, like I think he's got. I dude, I'm so confused and again I, I don't. I've never done this job, I'm gonna tell you something tony about those elevators I want you tell me.
Speaker 2:The person sitting in them controls them.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, in the corner there's a little joystick right. And that's how you get, because, listen, if I'm getting in that machine, I better have control of where it goes. Nope, because that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2:I have to talk to some random dude back at the security Be like hey, bill, can you bring me up now?
Speaker 1:Like hey, bill, can you bring me up now? And then Bill's at lunch and he didn't tell you. Now you're stuck there what's going on. This is so weird.
Speaker 2:So weird, such a conceit? That just doesn't make any sense. It's just so this weird guy has control over her for the beginning of the movie. So that he has control over her and can be evil to her. It's almost like he's not firing her, so he can just continue to be evil to her.
Speaker 1:Maybe that's how he has fun. He hates his job. The one solace he has is getting to bully this young lady. Now Dan we should have talked about it when you talked about the bedhead, but how did you feel about her hair in this movie? You're a pro short hair guy. Nine out of ten.
Speaker 2:Nine out of ten is wild to me's beautiful, oh, she's incredibly beautiful with this hair, this hair for me this hair, two out of ten.
Speaker 1:For me it's the bottom of the barrel. Just send her my way. I can't believe. I I figured I I had a few. I was like dan loves the short hair. I don't know what it is, but you, you love short hair she's incredibly attractive, are you crazy? That's why the hair to me throws it off. It doesn't matter. I figured you were into the hair and I just had to check.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's nothing special about it, but it's nice. You know, attractive shortcut. Sure, it's not like cool, you know it's not. You know who has a, who has? Oh yeah, what's her name? Like in Charlie's Angels. What's her name out of cool short haircut? Kay Stu, kay Stu. Yeah, she had like you know she had, like you know, multiple colors and, you know, doing a whole thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I agree, I agree with that, that's true. The brother is left downstairs with Big Ron, who's like this character who we get to never really spend any time with.
Speaker 2:I really thought there was going to be more because there's a lot of talk about Big Ron and how he's trustworthy.
Speaker 1:I really thought Big Ron was coming back in the third act. He doesn't. Did they kill him? They must kill him right at the beginning. I feel like they have to. But nobody made a big enough deal that I noticed. But I was. We were at the end of the movie and I was. I kept waiting for big ron to come back and I, I just I just kind of gave up. I was like I guess he's dead. I must have missed, it must be dead somewhere kind of he got cut out.
Speaker 2:So the bad guys in this thing run an energy corporation.
Speaker 1:There's going to be a big party tonight.
Speaker 2:The big oil guy is Gerald.
Speaker 1:I think they set up that he had diabetes at one point, something because he had to do something. So, yeah, was it a shot? Maybe it was diabetes Never comes back. Yeah, back, yeah again, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:So she goes and changes into her window washer outfit at her locker and wistfully looks at a picture of her and her brother as children and you're like very confusing for multiple reasons.
Speaker 1:It was a weird shot right.
Speaker 2:You were just like why are we doing this? It's a weird shot. Right. You were just like why are we doing this now?
Speaker 1:It's a weird shot, but it's also weird because the one time we saw her as a child was a traumatic experience, so I don't generally think that she had a good childhood. So looking back on those memories wouldn't be happy to me. One, two she doesn't seem to give a shit about her brother. She won't take care of him. She keeps dropping him in different homes I don't know what they're called Care homes, care homes. She doesn't seem to care about her childhood or her brother. So to have her stare at a picture of both of those things was very weird to me.
Speaker 2:Usually, what it is. It's like I have to keep this job so I can pay for what you need to survive, so I can take care of it.
Speaker 1:Yes, and that makes sense. You can't live with me because I have two roommates and it's just never going to work, because to pay for your stuff, I can't pay for my stuff.
Speaker 2:I can't afford my own apartment, you know you just, there are these very easy things to do. But they have set her up with her own apartment that she seems to be able to sleep until 1130 and then go. Pretty good, one go to work at two o'clock to six o'clock, so she works four hours a day.
Speaker 1:four hours, hey, that I'll take it.
Speaker 2:What the hell is.
Speaker 1:She's living on four hours a day, like how much do you think window cleaners get paid? Window cleaner salary yeah, the average hourly wage in Los Angeles is $26 an hour.
Speaker 2:You can't live off that, that's 100. Four hours a day, that's 100. Come on now. Minus taxes, that means she's making $70 a day.
Speaker 1:Explains why she can't afford a motorcycle. Doesn't she live in London? Yeah, she does.
Speaker 2:It's definitely not here, but that's the first thing that Google came up, because AI is tracking London, one of the most expensive cities in the world to live in.
Speaker 1:For sure, for sure.
Speaker 2:Okay, boom, boom, boom Goes to the locker. Then she goes out there and she goes down to this one super specific window and starts cleaning. And her cleaning is like a little spray bottle and starts cleaning and her cleaning is like a little spray bottle, and then she just sort of goes like it's just, this building is gigantic, you cannot be like.
Speaker 1:She's got a little music.
Speaker 2:You're working if you're cleaning a building that big, especially if you're only working four hours.
Speaker 1:That's a lot of building to cover.
Speaker 2:Then this other second cleaner shows up. I don't really get his name. I don't know who he is.
Speaker 1:He's the bad guy.
Speaker 2:See, I'm setting up my bitch Tony.
Speaker 1:You know what? Let's take that again.
Speaker 2:Let's go back to what this random dude shows up and he's all like, oh, they like sort of they sort of banter.
Speaker 1:But you know they sort of banter, but also sort of very much not banter, which makes sense later to me, but in the moment you're like what's happening? One, if we have cameras and people controlling all these things, would you really be able to rappel down next to another window cleaner, and just talk for five minutes, like I feel again? We've got a lot of building people. Be on the cons, be like hey guys, shut the fuck up and go to work.
Speaker 2:And this is on window one right. You're like you know, and if you want to run a bit, and actually the guy that's her boss is just really weird. He doesn't feel like her boss, he feels like he has some different job, that it just doesn't feel like the guy that should be giving her shit. He just seems like a sleazy nightclub owner?
Speaker 1:Yeah, he is, but you know, but sleazy elevator controller.
Speaker 2:Something happens with Big Ron. He has to go out and yell at a van, and so the bro has gone rogue. Everyone's getting ready for the big shareholder gala. Then we more talk with the buddy. She got him the job. Wait, she got her buddy the job.
Speaker 1:Right wait, she got her buddy the job right, so which is which is a fine way to set that up, but you don't pay that relationship off later.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like, how does she know?
Speaker 1:how that's weird. I assumed it was like army, because she's from, she's army, right she got kicked out of the army.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no he doesn't.
Speaker 1:He never says that, no, so I I just assumed that was coming and I don't. I don't think it ever was clarified huh, okay, very weird.
Speaker 2:Um, okay, she better. There's also this there was a maid in the elevator and I'm like, oh, this maid's gonna play a big part. She kind of comes back for one second. Yeah, a little yeah a little bit and then she disappears forever. Um gerald goes and does the big boss. The big energy boss goes and does coke um yeah, her brother is just screwing around on different floors for unknowable reasons.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's running around having a good time living his life, so then the window washer boss sends the elevator lift down.
Speaker 2:We call it the lift oh yeah, the lift, that makes sense. She gets in it and then he fucks with her.
Speaker 1:Well, because she's supposed to go to a window that got bird poo on it right or a bird strike.
Speaker 2:It means a bird crashed into it and killed itself.
Speaker 1:So it's dead. Yeah, very sad, very sad, and she's kind of not doing that.
Speaker 2:No, no, she is avoiding doing that. I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 1:So let's just break it down real quickly. This lady who's doing great has this job. She talks for the first 10 minutes of her shift cleans. Maybe one window doesn't do the one thing that she was asked. Why does she still have a job? She's lipped off to the boss. Why is she-?
Speaker 2:Barely showed up late. She was like late and barely showed up at the she was. I'm 17 seconds faster than the late hour, you're just like yeah no, she needs to be fired immediately.
Speaker 1:She's terrible. She should not have a job.
Speaker 2:And then she slips in the lift, drops a sponge, it goes all the way down, hits a dude on the street.
Speaker 1:Murders him. Right, he's dead. Well, it's just a sponge, but it's wet. It's a wet sponge, that's heavy. I think this guy's dead. I think this crushed his skull. They shoot it comedically. Yeah, no, you're right about that, but there's nothing funny. There would be nothing right about that, but there's nothing it is. There would be nothing funny about. Were you laughing? I was laughing for the wrong reasons. I was laughing because if this happened in real life, not only would she be fired immediately, like they would, the cops would be called, people would go up there.
Speaker 2:She would be on that lift all night until she got arrested she would be losing that job if she dropped a sponge and it hit somebody so fast, so instantaneously nobody even goes in and tells on her.
Speaker 1:No, people are just like ha sponge from the sky.
Speaker 2:What a day if I looked up and saw a window cleaner up there and I got hit by a sponge, I'd be walking in there. And that security guard at the front desk? Yeah, which there is not a security guard at the front desk, which is the most insane thing ever. But we're going to explain that. So here come these weird guys in masks, you know like full dance troupe or full whatever, and they just walk in and get in the elevators and you're like what is happening?
Speaker 1:Yeah, wouldn't it have been interesting if they had set up that they were waiting for the entertainment at the party before they got in the elevator instead of after?
Speaker 2:oh, did they not mention it?
Speaker 1:before the. From what I remember, the order was the opposite. They get in the other like who the hell are these guys? And then we cut to the party like well, the dancers are late. I was like what the hell's going on right now it's.
Speaker 2:It's really weird and I I mean I don't. You've probably been in big buildings like this. There is always a security desk and you always have to sign in.
Speaker 1:You got to check in, you got to write your name, who you're visiting the room, like come on guys.
Speaker 2:You don't just march in there and the security guard looks over and goes well, there's the dancers.
Speaker 1:Come on through everybody. Don't worry about the metal detectors, let's go.
Speaker 2:It's supposed to be surprising to us, you know. We're just like, well, what? Yeah, you know, but it just makes us go. What is happening? How are the bad guys just walking in?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They go up there. It's time for the one. There's two brothers, gerald, and then the other brother who's going to die pretty quick. He has to give a speech Good evening. The bad guys just take over the control center with nothing, with nothing. They just walk through the doors. You know, it's like the security center for this giant building, a location where you can type into a computer a $33 million transfer. There's no, you don't got to buzz in, you don't got to do anything. You can type into a computer a $33 million transfer, right, yeah, there's no, you don't got to buzz in, you don't got to do anything.
Speaker 1:There's not a camera. They just walk in and start shooting everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's fine, right? Yes, you don't want to have to deal with too much guffaw before you take over a building.
Speaker 2:A blonde American lady takes over the controls. We're in.
Speaker 1:Who's she talking to when she talks on that microphone? Doesn't he already know? No, I don't know. It just seemed a little weird.
Speaker 2:It's all good, he's down at the party, because they're mingling at the party. And then they gas Okay, tony, who do they gas Everybody. What do you mean by everybody, everyone at the party, and and there are people that like live in this building as apartments and we see them at times with families.
Speaker 1:I had a question about that because I, I, I was confused because also at one point the brother like goes off and has sex in a bedroom which I assume is someone's apartment. I don't know Because why would you have a bedroom in your office? I was very confused on the layout of this building in general because she sees like a family at one point in a window right.
Speaker 2:So there are apartments on others, because this is a huge building.
Speaker 1:It's a big building, yeah, Big building. Lots of windows to clean.
Speaker 2:So I guess there are apartments in these buildings, and so, in addition to having gas canisters that they throw out at the party, they have delivered pots of gas canisters to all of the other people that live in this building, because they go off in these other weird rooms.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Seems like a lot of canisters first of all, what the fuck? I don't know, I don't understand.
Speaker 2:In Die Hard with the Nakatomi Plaza. They're building it right, so nobody works there yet.
Speaker 1:Also, it's the holiday party, so the only people in the building are the people at the party. And then guess who? The security guard downstairs. One security guard, one security. That poor bastard. He never stood a chance.
Speaker 2:So they gas everyone. The bro figures it out and hides in a closet and then puts towels in the way and he's unaffected. We set up that this gas will put everybody unconscious for exactly four hours.
Speaker 1:I love that it works on a clock. You know, like that's nice. Science is great, Don't you think, Dan? It's pretty great.
Speaker 2:So they give air to like that's nice, science is great, don't you think, dan? It's pretty great. So they give air to like 10 people, let's say, because these are the people that are the real hostages, right? And then Clive Owen takes his thing off and he's all like we're Earth's revolution, now this is where I had a question.
Speaker 1:Hit me with the question how fast does that gas go away? Um? Instantaneously if you give them air oh, okay, see, I did again science. You know, it's truly a wonder.
Speaker 2:I'm assuming it's a like, a reagent or whatever, it's something that cancels the gas that you breathe. I don't think it's like air.
Speaker 1:Actually, it's not just like oxygen, yeah it must be something that I mean it attaches to, it bonds to the molecules um, and then they evaporate.
Speaker 2:The thing about knocking people out with gas is there's people called anesthesiologists and you know what they they have to do. They have to be incredibly intelligent and incredibly careful and incredibly paying attention to fucking everything. Because, they can kill you. Anesthesia is the most dangerous thing in the hospital.
Speaker 1:That's why, when I had my knee surgery, I stayed awake and then they gave me an epidural and it turns out that hurts way more than I thought it would, and if I do that again, I'm going to sleep. I don't care if I don't wake up again. That hurt a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they give you there's different ones where they just put you just right, and then if you're just enough if you're in a real surgery they like you're done, you're going down. Yeah, um, yeah, okay. So they can't find Gerald. Who's the big boss? She's right outside and she sees them. Take Gerald, she's the bad guy. So she now knows what's going on. The bad guys come grab Gerald, drag him away.
Speaker 1:And she's stuck outside. Still. I don't know if we ever really talked about it, but she's stuck outside because the guy won't bring her back in. Well, he's dead Now. He's dead, but's dead. But at first he was like, oh, I'm just gonna let you sit there for a while, so, and then he gets murdered. So she's still out there.
Speaker 2:So there she is up on, you know, let's say, the 40th floor. What is, what's her big plan?
Speaker 1:I don't, does she have a big plan? She's just kind of sitting there for a while. No, she, she does, she takes actions, she well, at one point she tries to break through a window. I remember that, nope that's later. Nope, what's her first plan? Hey, oh, she yells back, hey, hey.
Speaker 2:Then what should she, what would she do next?
Speaker 1:Tony, maybe throw a sponge off the thing and get the people's attention from below. Would she pull out her cell phone? You think she has a cell phone? Oh boy, what is this? 2024? That's what woke her up in the morning.
Speaker 2:That's true. That's a good point.
Speaker 1:That's how she talked to the boss, Maybe she doesn't get service that high in the air.
Speaker 2:I mean you have to have her lock up the cell phone.
Speaker 1:Wait, you're telling me, people in big buildings don't have cell phone service. Yeah, isn't that a thing? The higher you get the less service you have right.
Speaker 2:There it is. She doesn't have a cell phone somehow now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2:They never do anything with the cell phone. But now she doesn't have a cell phone and nobody ever uses cell phones for anything until later, Until she has earbuds in. How does she have the earbuds? Wait, how does she talk to the cop later? Does she find another? Does she take a cell phone from someone?
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe from one of the bad guys, maybe, maybe from the guy that falls into the crate thing.
Speaker 2:And then she tries to hotwire the lift.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I remember that one.
Speaker 2:Then she stops, she falls out the wires and then does a, and nothing happens. Listen.
Speaker 1:What the hell are you doing? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Tony, hold on a second. Your car stops working. You go in the front of the car and you start pulling wires. Do you really think that car is ever?
Speaker 1:going to start If I did it? No, but if somebody knew how to do it, maybe I don't know and then you have to twist them together. I remember that, I've seen it. You know when you twist them together and then you're fine. You can't have a person do something like they know what they're doing when they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Unless there's a funny line where she's like touching him and she's like, okay, I have no idea what I'm doing, I got to stop, I'm going to die. You know like something like that would be fun, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:You have to go some direction with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, now she. Then she repels down to the ball, so she leaves the thing, goes back onto her wire and goes down. Tony, couldn't she just go right back up?
Speaker 1:well, I think up is where she came from. Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong, but so I think it would make sense you start at the top.
Speaker 2:Why would you go down?
Speaker 1:well, what, what reason would you have to go down? I have no idea. It seems like like the wrong move, other than maybe she just wanted to leave.
Speaker 2:Yeah, couldn't you leave by going?
Speaker 1:up to where you, but if you go up you have to go through the building right Like. I don't want to go through the building, so maybe she's just trying to go down.
Speaker 2:Why would you not want to?
Speaker 1:go through the building Because there's bad guys in the building.
Speaker 2:So you think she was trying to go, but she doesn't have a rope to go all the way down to the?
Speaker 1:No, I imagine that it doesn't go all the way down to the ground floor. I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's so weird, and so she goes down there so that she can watch what they're up to. And it turns out these guys are eco-terrorists and they want to save the world.
Speaker 1:Now you know I have a slight problem because I am on Clive Owen's side.
Speaker 2:Yes, and the other guy too. I'm on both of their sides.
Speaker 1:I mean the other guy is a little too cray-cray. Yeah, yeah, Like Clive Owen, I'm like, yeah, cool, I'll join that movement. I agree with you guy.
Speaker 2:Now we're going to have the big political discussion. Oh yes, I love politics. We had a guy, Luigi, goes, stalks out one of the heads of one of these healthcare companies and kills him dead and then the whole of everything is like this is the most dangerous man that's ever lived.
Speaker 2:We need to perp walk him with a thousand soldiers because he's so dangerous, and a lot of us watched what he did, which is very wrong, but we're, we're certainly not. We're not well that guy is. Is this innocent babe in the woods who you know well I?
Speaker 1:mean I, I have a lot. I mean we could definitely get in trouble with this conversation. I have a lot of feelings on that because I also like he's. He's not that bad of a guy because, listen, he's doing a job to please other people. You know what I mean. Like he's not making the sole decisions. So it's thing Like you just got to get rid of the whole system. Now I don't know how to do that. Let me be very clear. I have no idea how to do that, but let's try.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean there are a lot of wealthy people that work in a very amoral way to make as much money as they can, with little consideration of what effect they are doing, have and if you're going to make a thing, if you have a bunch of piece of shit, oil, people that are fucking the world and fucking everyone, it's hard to feel sympathetic for any of them.
Speaker 1:It's especially because they killed the one brother that seemed to be on the side of like.
Speaker 2:We got to make things right no, he was just you don't think so no he was just the face, he was just the other guy was. Was was scummy or seeming, but the other brother just could stand up there and give a speech but it seemed like and I could be wrong, I might be reading in this.
Speaker 1:It seemed like he didn't even know about some of the decisions the brother was making.
Speaker 2:Well then they have to tell us that For sure.
Speaker 1:But I feel like there was a moment where someone mentioned something and then the one brother was like, well, we don't do that, that's not possible. And then the other brother is like, oh yeah, we do that for sure, we definitely do that. Yeah, brother's like oh yeah, we do that for sure, we definitely do that, yeah, so I thought I thought there was like but then we kill him anyhow, so none of this really matters, because he dies first anyhow.
Speaker 2:So and these are all. And we also set up a thing with the autistic brother about how he, at the care home, he hacked into their systems and was showing that they were ripping people off, to which I say, wait a second.
Speaker 1:He has power over the care home now oh yeah, not only that, but he also is doing basically the same thing that clive owens doing. Yes, if you really think about, it, which is a weird message in the same movie where they make daisy, then kill all these people that basically did the same thing the brother did, only you know way better. I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's confusing to me. And we do have a little microsecond thing where she's all like these people are different than what you did there, and then he's all like, okay, I will screw the, you know, I'm going to make sure they all die or whatever. As opposed to, you could have had this moment where the brother is like I agree with what they're doing and you would have had to. You know, if you're going to set up a thing where they're destroying the world literally.
Speaker 2:Yeah, these are very big topics of conversation in your, in your blockbuster movie and, if you just like, sweep them under the rug and say at the end of the movie well, she's going to leak this information. Yeah, that's what I was going to say, these 10 people are going to get in trouble, and that's good enough. They got in trouble.
Speaker 1:Yeah, their way around dealing with moral consequences is like, well, she's going to do it anyhow. At the end she's going to basically do the same thing anyhow, so it's fine.
Speaker 2:And the one police officer is like you don't have the thing. Okay, okay, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. I would have loved to see something in the third act where the people that are going to make sure that information doesn't come out show up and Daisy Ridley has to do something about them.
Speaker 1:Has to hide it from them. Because they're just as bad as as these, because they are just, I agree, yeah, and that's. It's all kind of like I understand the. What we're saying is like, well, yeah, but murder is the worst. Like I feel like that's the moral of the movie is like, yeah, you could do a lot of bad things, but murder is the worst, so we got to stop the murderers and find another way, you know.
Speaker 2:So it's just morally, the movie is a little messy I would go with super messy and and at a certain point I was just like, oh, I hope the terrorists survive and can pull off their plan to. You know, actually do something, you know, and that's not where you want to be with your movie.
Speaker 1:No, not when you're doing an anti-terrorist movie, If you're doing a pro-terrorism movie then maybe Are we getting to that point where you're like well, you know.
Speaker 1:That's why you know, die hard is nice, right, because you think that they're terrorists. And then it turns out they're just like, yeah, we just want money, and that's cool, because one we can all agree with. But also I'm like, well, you don't deserve the money, so you can die for doing this, that's fine, but you give these guys a cause, one that I think a lot of the world would agree with.
Speaker 2:At least a percentage of people seeing this are going to be. It gets very morally ambiguous. Yes, you don't want to see people risking their lives to save oil executives. I'm sorry. Not this, not it. They set them up as monstrous. That's the thing, 100%.
Speaker 1:I don't agree that they should die, but I also don't agree that they shouldn't get in trouble, but I also don't agree that they shouldn't get in trouble. So, like you know, listen if that guy doesn't kill Clive Owen.
Speaker 2:I'm rooting for the bad guys. The whole movie, without a doubt, and even after Clive Owen gets killed, my sympathies never moved on to those people surviving.
Speaker 1:No sympathy If you don't have sympathy for the hostages.
Speaker 2:How are you going to gonna care about anything?
Speaker 1:no, I, I hardly care about daisy, I hardly care about the brother in this. Like I, you know, I'm having a hard time caring about anybody. The reason why the movie works right, what for me at least is because clive owen I'm on board with. I'm'm like go, Clive, let's do this thing. This guy who's named Taz what was his name? Taz? Taz kills Clive Owen and I'm like oh good, I hate you by default because I think you suck.
Speaker 2:Oh, you see you know what I mean. So it works out. You got on board because because Taz ruined the movie.
Speaker 1:T the movie. Tash ruins the movie and I'm like we need to kill this guy.
Speaker 2:We need to get him out of the movie right now, because he is messing this all up. Okay, so we find out that they had somebody do something, and then she was going to go to trial, and then the oil company had her killed, and so nothing came out of that.
Speaker 1:And now here's my problem. Yeah, right, they killed an activist. Yeah, and now the activists are killing them. Yeah, and any shred of me being like well, murder's wrong goes out the window. They did it first. This is a John Wick situation, you know what I mean. Like good, kill them all. So you messed up big time. Window. They did it first. This is this is a john wick situation, you know I mean. Like good, kill them all. So you messed up big time. You messed up big. There's no heroes. Oh well, daisy daisy, she's a hero when she, you know, does almost nothing for 90 of the movie and then they.
Speaker 2:So they kill the one dude, the taz kills the one dude with a, with a wine bottle.
Speaker 1:For unknowable reasons, Also, I didn't realize he was killing him Is that weird? Until he was already dead I was like, well, he's just got a wine bottle in his mouth, it's just, he's fine.
Speaker 2:It was weird.
Speaker 1:It was super weird. Yeah, also, clive doesn't really stop it. He said he says something like hey, don't do it, hey stop, please don't. He doesn't do anything, so the whole thing's weird.
Speaker 2:What is the movie where the person? Is like stop, don't go Stop.
Speaker 1:No Stop.
Speaker 2:It's in Willy Wonka, in the Willy Wonka the 70s one, the people are doing things. They shouldn't be doing and he's like I'll just stand there like stop as the people put themselves in jeopardy.
Speaker 1:He's just like you want to put yourself in jeopardy.
Speaker 2:Whatever?
Speaker 1:bro, do your thing, my friend.
Speaker 2:You, do you. So then she goes back and does the one interesting thing she smears some random stuff that she has on the windows and writes the word sos right, oh, okay, that works.
Speaker 1:so we find out the bad guys now have bombs and then they're like go find this cleaner um, now, I wish that that was more of a thing that they're trying to stop her not only stop her, but calling her cleaner, like if that was the only way that they knew her and they were like man, this cleaner's a problem, get the cleaner, find the cleaner. Like if there was more of that, I'd be like, okay, yeah, movie's called cleaner, but it only gets mentioned once or twice, and then the bad guy knows her on a personal level. So there's I just I wanted there to just be like who the hell is this cleaner? You know what I mean. Bad guy knows her on a personal level, so I wanted there to just be like who the hell is this cleaner? You know what I mean. Like he knows her whole history.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, she's former army. She got kicked out. I know everything about her. I want there to be like a mystery where these trained badasses are. Like what the hell is going on? This lady cleaner is kicking our ass. What's going on? Find out who she is. Who is the cleaner? Yeah, I don't know something like that.
Speaker 2:You mean because it's almost like one of the good things that happens in in die hard, which there's like 20, sure. Like at one point he like has to deal with this one guy and he thinks he's one of the guys that works there, but he turns out to be one of the bad guys. And he also has to keep his name out of it, cause he's got what's her name and then my put together the.
Speaker 2:you know there's just wipes inside just all these little, these little gems that that add to the jeopardy, and this one, we're like. They don't even ever, do they even ever capture the brother? They haven't even had.
Speaker 1:but the bad guy knows that the brother's there somewhere.
Speaker 2:You know like, okay, we never used that brother as a fulcrum, never once Like why is he there? He's whatever Sets the fire. The bad guys have bombs. They try to elevate her up. She jams one of the things, gerald bites Clive, and then he, um, he gets shot out the window. So, yeah, oh, no, no, oh, they shoot out a window. I think, oh, they shoot out a window. And I was like, well, now we have an opening, but we never use that broken window.
Speaker 1:Nope, don't worry about it, that one's too far away, dan, yeah, too far away.
Speaker 2:Uh, then right when we and Noah Taz shoots Clive Owen's character and takes control of the whole thing.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:So Clive was going to do the exact same thing that he was going to do, but then he wasn't going to blow up the building, he was just going to let all these people Without murder.
Speaker 1:He was going to let everyone get captured.
Speaker 1:Clive was anti-murder. Got it Because he's an activist. He's an activist, but he he's an activist but he's not a murderer got it. And this guy's like the only way to get the job done is to murder. Now, my counterpoint to that is again clive owen watched you choke a guy with a wine bottle and did nothing. So I think that clive's one of those guys. It's like, well, I'm not gonna do it, but like, if you do it, it happens. Yeah. So I feel like we could have gotten the plan done either way.
Speaker 2:So basically we find this point, we kind of do a whole thing where you know half the team kills the other half of the team because one half of the team doesn't want to kill, and at a certain point way at the end of the movie, the blonde girl in charge of the control center realizes that they're all going to die, and so she doesn't want to die and runs away. What did she think was going to happen? There is no. Oh, I guess he said buses, didn't he?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yeah, I mean, listen, it doesn't make any sense. It's messy, obviously, but so the way to do this better, right, If anyone's writing a movie, they need to have separate motives and separate goals. It can't be the exact same plan, no matter who's in charge, because it doesn't make any fucking sense. He's like, hey, we're doing this. We're going to get these people to say, hey, did this thing, and this guy's like that's not the real plan. Boom, you're dead. The real plan is a billion dollars and we're gonna murder everybody and get rich and fly to Costa Rica. I don't know. It has to be very different plans for this to make any sense whatsoever. At like, half the team kills the other half the team just because they're like well, you know, your, your friend's, dead, so I guess you're dead too. Doesn't make any sense, doesn't?
Speaker 2:make any sense and there's no conflict, there's nobody, there's not like one person that goes along with it and then or this blonde woman sort of does.
Speaker 1:The blonde lady sort of, but not really. Yeah, it's all done very poorly and that's the thing in Die.
Speaker 2:Hard. When you have that switch, everyone in the audience goes oh yeah, these guys aren't idiots. But everything we watch the terrorists do, we're like these guys are idiots.
Speaker 1:He's the dumbest people in the world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you don't care. It's like okay they're all dead, that's fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't care about them. You evil oil executives. If they all get killed, fine, whatever, I don't really care. Yeah, there's really no one in that building. That I'm like boy. I hope they don't die by the end of this movie, except for maybe the maid and she's who comes back for like two seconds, two seconds, uh no, kills marcus.
Speaker 2:People are the problem. They throw marcus's body out. I guess they throw it out the broken window.
Speaker 1:Yeah, out the broken window and then just right onto her lift, lift, which is pretty weird.
Speaker 2:And he has a gun. So now she has a gun. And then Noah shows up at the window and he knows everything about Daisy Ridley's character and they're having a conversation like they've known each other forever and I'm like, how does he have all this information? Well, he's the other window washer that she interacted with before. I did not.
Speaker 1:I was so confused.
Speaker 2:This is when you realized this is when I realized it. I was so confused. I love that because he does.
Speaker 1:That's actually really good dude doesn't look like anything well, they, and they had him in like a hat and like the gear earlier. So when he's not in any of that, he does look quite different. Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2:And why is he going into work the same night? It's like you have a guy that works at this building?
Speaker 1:I don't know that.
Speaker 2:And he comes into work. I mean he needed to have done something.
Speaker 1:Right, or you know, all of the people that are there are the window cleaners, and it's like the window cleaners are the reason why it are the inside men who let everybody in, and they're like we all joined just to kill you all. Yeah, that's a fun movie. And then you can call the movie cleaners, and then really it's about the other cleaners taking over the building and then the one saving the day. That that's a fun dynamic. She has a gun on him. Yeah, so I had questions about this part.
Speaker 2:He sort of has a gun on the maid on the floor but, not really, not very much, and she's like a fucking super secret agent. She could have just blasted him right, unless the glass is bulletproof. Well, they shoot through it later. Yeah, you're right, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I thought it was weird too. There's a five to six minute conversation where it's just like just shoot him, you're five feet away, just shoot him. And then she shoots at the street later and she can shoot 1,000 yards away pinpoint accuracy Just shoot him, shoot him in the window.
Speaker 2:We're going to talk about that in one second, so whatever. So they sort of like I know your brother's here, I'm going to hurt your brother Brother's actually right behind him when he's doing this Just literally within eyeshot, yeah. Yeah, and then he finally leaves and we're like, okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Now here's something that bothers me in movies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm going to be Dan Goodsell for a minute and tell you one of my pet peeves.
Speaker 1:My pet peeve is when you and I are having a conversation and we're looking at each other in the eyes and then somebody else is in the background. That I don't want. Hey baby, I don't want you to know, is there? And then you show me always looking over to them and the person never looks over the shoulder. If I'm looking at you in your eyes and you keep looking to the left of me, I'm going to turn. I'll be like what is over there? I'm talking to you guy, and that's my biggest pet peeve.
Speaker 2:I've seen it in movies where it's a tell and they react on it and you have to have them react sure, if you have to, if you're dumb enough to look over. You have to have them because you're being.
Speaker 1:You're gonna notice. They're gonna notice. They're looking at you directly in the eye, threatening your life and that should have been.
Speaker 2:The setup is forget this stupid maid who doesn't add any nobody cares about. I mean, she doesn't even get up and get away, does she?
Speaker 1:I think she just naps the rest of the movie. I don't think she ever leaves. I think she's like she's so scared.
Speaker 2:She's like I'm just gonna go to bed now. She's been gassed, she hasn't been un-gassed, so I guess she's just gonna lay there for you.
Speaker 2:She's just, she's just passed out laying there um, yeah, he, he has to be talking to her and she's like you know, you know he's got to say this what he has to say. You could try and shoot me through the glass, you know, probably gonna take five shots and I'm gonna be gone. And then she's all like, yeah, and then he sees her do that and it's like he switches, grabs the brother, and then he's got the brother like this, like, and then you're in trouble. Now you're in trouble, girlfriend.
Speaker 1:And then he you know he can exert that control in some other way to you know, in actual, any actual control over the scene?
Speaker 2:yeah, because he never has. He never has any control really over her, ever, ever no, and you've got to give him that. That's jeopardy. That means she's afraid and her actions truly mean something, as opposed to. Most of her actions are like why didn't you do them whenever I want?
Speaker 1:Well, to be fair, she spends the majority of the movie outside not doing anything.
Speaker 2:So you know, I'm not sure it matters anyhow, that is very true. Um, okay, so what he does? So she has a gun and he's like I'm gonna shoot the maid and he's all like what you're gonna do is we're gonna call it in that there's a crazy person shooting down at the street and that's what the sos was about, but you're gonna shoot down into the street. Talk about her shooting down into the street, tony.
Speaker 1:She is the greatest shot with a pistol of all time. I guess is it called a handgun?
Speaker 2:Handgun pistol same. Thing.
Speaker 1:Okay, so she's. What do we think? 30 floors up 25 to 30 floors up, let's put it at 30.
Speaker 2:It's at least 30.
Speaker 1:She is shooting at people like they do in the westerns, where it's at like right at their feet to make them dance. But you never want them to be like, oh, I'm gonna shoot you. She is so good with this shot that people don't even panic that much. They're just like, oh wait, what's going on up there? They're shooting at us, but not really we're all safe. It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 2:The first shot she shoots a coffee out of a guy's hand.
Speaker 1:Out of his hand. First of all, the like. Here's a coffee cup. Right, this is a giant water bottle that I'm holding. My hand is half of this and a coffee cup is a third of this, so his hand is almost the entire cup. To not hit his hand and just hit cup is unreal.
Speaker 2:And she shoots like five shots. I was laughing through all of this. It was fucking hilarious. Every one of the shots is within inches of a person, as opposed to her looking down there and shooting into the street.
Speaker 1:Yeah of a person, as opposed to her looking down there and shooting into the street yeah, into it like a big open area so no one will get hurt for sure. No, she, she's like within a foot of everybody each time and she fires them in fast succession. It's not like she's doing that thing where you like judge the wind and you're kind of aiming care. She's like pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop and she has it perfectly all over the street. It is wild stuff.
Speaker 2:Or shooting twice and then waiting for people to disperse, then shooting the rest.
Speaker 1:Sure, yeah, once people because they're running in the panic. She's like I'm not even worried, I don't even think there's a chance I'm going to hit somebody. I'm so good at this.
Speaker 2:Oh, it was so funny. And then a helicopter shows up and they're like put your hands in the air.
Speaker 1:Like you, just don't care.
Speaker 2:And they have a big. Well, initially they didn't have a big rifle on her. Later they pull out the big rifle and pointed at her. It was so weird.
Speaker 1:Which is an interesting order of events, right, they show up and they're not going to kill her, and they're just like, hey, what are you doing, lady, stop shooting. And then she's like, oh sorry, I'm not a bad guy. And they're like what was that? God Doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2:Okay, now Claire shows up. She is, who's Claire? Claire is the lady cop. Oh, she's the lady cop. Okay, this gets so bad. Okay, the the bad guy, okay, the jazz, whatever his name is. He calls up to the control center and he's like okay, transfer 33 million dollars 33 million dollars into into joey's account, into the cleaner's account, so that they'll think that she's the problem which, listen, is in a vacuum as a fine plan.
Speaker 1:Right like make it seem like she's take stealing money. I don't really know, but she's on the outside of the building like what? What? In what world is someone paying her 33 million to stand outside the building and shoot down?
Speaker 2:more importantly, you could just somehow you have access to all of their accounts and all of their money, all of the money, first of all.
Speaker 1:They have all the money in the world first of all drain that money into the world.
Speaker 2:You know unicef, you know humanity. Let's start spreading that money around.
Speaker 1:Somebody should be doing that full-time right shouldn't it's all for jo. That is what I would be doing. It's all Joe's money.
Speaker 2:I would be spreading that money across the planet, everything into Switzerland, and, even if you're not stealing it for yourself, like have these people? But, it said, the only thing they use the money for is to try and frame her up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, super weird.
Speaker 2:How do they have her account number?
Speaker 1:Well, they're best friends, Dan. Okay, I know your bank account number. You don't know my bank account number.
Speaker 2:You know what you should have said? Venmo her $33 million. Venmo her $33 million In the line terrorism.
Speaker 1:Terrorism, and then have her receive it on her cell phone and just be like oh no, I'm in trouble now, Uh-oh.
Speaker 2:Okay, now we finally find out that she's ex-army Just right now.
Speaker 1:Does it really take that long? Oh boy, okay. So the Do we know why she gets kicked out? Does it say yeah?
Speaker 2:we do that.
Speaker 1:Do you remember? Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 2:Or is it?
Speaker 1:coming up later, don't spoil it. If you've got a plan, I'll tell you what happens.
Speaker 2:So she's there, claire's talking to her. Somehow she's got earpieces in to do all this talking.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What are they? Airpods? I guess her cleaner boss was talking to her that way. Now somehow they and she can switch between 12 different calls instantaneously never with pushing a button. It's amazing Apple. It's Apple.
Speaker 1:So good, that's how Apple works, so there's the big boss police lady.
Speaker 2:She has this terrible SWAT guy who she has bad blood with and it's just like oh god, so bad um they go and look at the body. They figure out who clive owens is within like 20 seconds seconds yes, it's, it's wild they drop the lift, she almost falls, um. And then she's all like I don't care, save my brother. Um. And then she wants to get in and don't care, save my brother. And then she wants to get in and the cops know everything about the bad guy.
Speaker 1:Then the news knows everything about the bad guy and the media knows everything. The media knows everything.
Speaker 2:Everybody's names, everything's happening, everyone has bombs.
Speaker 1:And then we set up that Noah has a thing that if his pulse stops for five seconds, then it'll blow and then you have that wonderful moment where he takes it off for just enough time and then puts it on. Let me tell you something about pulses. It takes a second for the machine to find it again. So if he took it off and it turned red, I think you're dead. I think it takes too long for it to re-find the pulse, for it to red. I think you're dead. I think it takes too long for it to refine the pulse, for it to matter. I think you're all dead.
Speaker 2:You're not buying that. That technology isn't solid.
Speaker 1:Works instantaneously. I have a watch that is supposed to do that thing, and it has never found my resting heart right. Maybe I'm dead, it could be me, I don't know.
Speaker 2:He says no one in here is innocent. You think I'm the bad guy? Oh, so they send some SWAT guys in there and then he's watching them through the computer and then he's all like you shouldn't have said SWAT guys, they have five seconds to get out and then, as they're running away, he blows up a bomb and kills them all.
Speaker 1:Which is almost identical to Die Hard, only a million times worse. What do you mean? It's stupider in this one. You remember where they send the guys in at the door?
Speaker 2:and then they shoot them. Those are good scenes.
Speaker 1:Those are great scenes and they bring in the RV or the tank and the guy's like it looks like the police have themselves an RV. It's all great. And this is all shit and it's. It's weird, they're just like. I remember that one scene in diehard. That was really cool. Let's do that, but without caring at all.
Speaker 2:they bring in they bring in the, the, that armored vehicle, and then the one of the dudes up on runs over. They're always the bad guys, are always doing things proactive, they're running. They're like don't they use like a big rivet gun?
Speaker 1:to mount the thing, and then they lean it out there.
Speaker 2:They shoot the rocket, blow up the thing and it's great, and it's all great these are. You know, they're smarter. The bad guys are smarter than the good guys?
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're smart.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're doing their jobs Because they know what the fuck they're doing. The cops are doing their best, but the bad guys have plans.
Speaker 1:Everyone is doing their jobs pretty well. Everyone's pretty competent in that movie, and that's the problem. You got a bunch of people that can do this shit and that's hard.
Speaker 2:And that's when you fucking care. Joey's talking to Noah and Noah's trying to do something. There are some really amazingly funnily stupid things in this movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll talk soon.
Speaker 2:So Noah lowers on a rope one of the bombs.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Yes, what does the bomb do, tony Well, just Beep. Yeah, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
Speaker 1:Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep beep beep beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep beep beep, beep beep, beep, beep, beep beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep Confirmed the cleaner is dead. Oh, I didn't even notice that part, and you know what Noah immediately says.
Speaker 2:I don't think so.
Speaker 1:Well, to be fair, I think that people would be a little more upset than that Than just like it's confirmed. Yeah, she's dead, Ah, shoot.
Speaker 2:Explosives, the dumb bro, uh, explosives, the dumb bro. He's in a room and behind him he has all these things, these containers that I said. Todd said thick bleach on them and I'm like, well, that's gonna come in to play it doesn't.
Speaker 1:Do you think they're different than thin bleach? I thought it said thick bleach. I never went back to check. I have no idea she's having struggle climbing.
Speaker 2:She's all like how about you help me out and blow out one of these windows? So what do they do to help her out? By blowing out one of the windows, Tony?
Speaker 1:Do they blow it out? They shoot five holes in it. Oh right, and then she has to like hammer it For like an hour. For an hour she has to hammer it, yeah, for a while. Tony, do they only have five bullets? Maybe because they didn't come prepared? They're not good at their jobs. Couldn't they have shot like 50 bullets. Well, sure, but that's government money. You see, you're wasting the government dollars to take the taxpayers' money. Okay, they don't want to use any bullets, they don't have to.
Speaker 2:Oh sorry, I take it back. The reason why they only shot five shots is so we could have the scene where she talks to Claire and explains to her what happened in the military.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, she needs some time. You're right, she needs some time and catharsis to hammer that window and get her anger out.
Speaker 2:She was in the army and then there was a guy who was bad and bugged her, and so then she left the army because he harassed her, I guess so she didn't get kicked out of the.
Speaker 1:No, she quit because he was. Because they say that, just don't. They say multiple times, she gets kicked out of the army, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Okay, well whatever we do, an ick newman wasp thing. You want to talk about the Ichnumen wasp thing, tony?
Speaker 1:I don't know what you're saying, so I'm not qualified to speak. On the ignamus wasps, what is?
Speaker 2:it Ichnumen, I believe.
Speaker 1:Ichnumen.
Speaker 2:Basically, we set up that there's a wasp out there in nature, that what it does is it stings another wasp and lays its egg inside them, and then the eggs hatch out of the other wasp. That's what he's doing when he killed Clive Owen.
Speaker 1:What so? He's the wasp that stings, and then more wasps come out. Yeah, I don't think I understand the metaphor, okay. Did more people join the cause. No, I don't even understand.
Speaker 2:He's taken over, you know.
Speaker 1:I mean, I understand that he's a wasp that killed another wasp, or something.
Speaker 2:I guess maybe that wasp then lives in the old wasp's house or something and drinks all its wine, it's his own house. Oh gosh, we're not done with this movie.
Speaker 1:She's not even inside the building yet. She's just getting in now. Oh God, this movie's dumb.
Speaker 2:When she goes into the building, the bro is right there, instantaneously Dog down. So the bro's right. When she goes into the building, the bro is like right there, instantaneously Right Dog down. She hurt her foot a little.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you don't want to hurt her.
Speaker 2:She's a pain in the ass. She put like the dog ramp right at the end of the couch. She'll walk around it and then jump on the couch.
Speaker 1:She can just walk right up the ramp.
Speaker 2:Just walk up the goddamn ramp. No.
Speaker 1:No, thank you. No, I jumped.
Speaker 2:I jumped on it. Thank you, I do what I want. So she's with the brother. They're like going somewhere and they start walking up the stairwell and then he's all like, okay, we need some small talk time in the middle of the stairway and he does a Piers Morgan thing. He also does all this Thanos stuff because he's carrying around Thor's hammer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's obsessed with Piers Morgan. I didn't understand that thread. Maybe it's because I'm not English.
Speaker 2:Piers Morgan's just a guy that has a talk show. Nothing special about it.
Speaker 1:But don't we not like Piers Morgan? Isn't that what was?
Speaker 2:happening. He's kind of a Trumper, he's sort of. But, I don't know if he's as big of a Trumper at this point, but for a while he was. I think he was on the Apprentice and I think, okay, I think he's kind of like a Donald.
Speaker 1:Trump, Whatever, Because we get the. What would Piers Morgan do? And I was like I don't know. I know who Piers Morgan is.
Speaker 2:Piers Morgan is not a guy that you would ask that question of. He's not a guy that has a big moral code or does things a certain way he's just a semi-news talk show guy.
Speaker 1:Who cares he's nobody. Yeah, I guess maybe it's okay that I didn't get it then.
Speaker 2:Noah freaks out for unknowable reasons. Okay, we're going to have the big discussion now, tony.
Speaker 1:What have we been doing so far?
Speaker 2:So they've taped all these confessions, right, right, yeah, what's the big plan?
Speaker 1:I don't even know, if I know they're releasing them on social media, right?
Speaker 2:And to do that, what do they have to do to those files? They have to encrypt them for 15 minutes. Tony, why would you have to encrypt files that you want everyone in the world to see?
Speaker 1:Maybe it's a timed release, so they want all of them to release at the same time. Do you think that's what it is?
Speaker 2:I don't fucking know it doesn't make any sense. They, this whole movie could be eliminated if they were just facebook living right you know what?
Speaker 1:no, I got it, dan I actually figured it out, okay. So there's this thing called the algorithm on social media okay, they're trying to game the algorithm they're trying to game it. So what they're doing is they're releasing the data right of the video, but not the video itself. So the algorithm's picking up all the data. It's like oh, I'm going to send it to all of these people and then, when the video hits, boom, it's in your feed. That's obviously what's happening.
Speaker 2:It's the algorithm it's just like you, just you're like I could have my phone and do what they're doing and everybody, just by yourself. They're like we should delay this as long as possible I yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's a bad plan. I think we all can agree.
Speaker 2:It's like they're not a great. They've done all this work so they can put it on a disc that can be stolen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, that's pretty dumb right. Always have a backup is the answer.
Speaker 2:Always upload it to the cloud.
Speaker 1:Send email it to yourself. Sure the cloud's good.
Speaker 2:But you have to encrypt it so that they don't find it Like. This is something you want everyone to find.
Speaker 1:Immediately. Yeah, we want it to happen. Like it's weird, because in movies of yore, you know, as in yesteryear, they would just um, record the video and then send it off to the news or they would do like they would hijack the news networks and do it live. Yep, but now we have tools specifically designed to go live anywhere at any time and they're like we're not going to do that. Okay, that's not for us.
Speaker 2:It's just pathological. It just flies in the face of everything we all know. We all know that we all literally could just pick up our phone and go live to an amount of people and well, maybe not an amount of people.
Speaker 1:Some of us get zero views dan it's fine. No judgments on on us.
Speaker 2:So they go and hide in a boiler room and then the bad guys go to the boil and we're like where are we going to do all of our our, our action scenes in this one fucking boiler room set? That looks like shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, it's cheap.
Speaker 2:Talk to me about the lighting of the boiler room set.
Speaker 1:What lighting? I feel like there's three fluorescents that light the whole thing and that's it. They were just like yeah, let's just use natural lighting. Because there's no outlets on the wall, so we can't power any lights, we'll just use the fluorescent lighting. It looks like shit.
Speaker 2:Super flat, right yeah.
Speaker 1:It's just terrible.
Speaker 2:She attacks a guy with a wrench that kills him with a gun, saves the bro. This lady has her dead to rights, but somehow she's able to pull her gun around and shoot a steam pipe as opposed to just around and shoots lady. Yeah, steam pipes, lady Um, and then they Kung Fu fight and then the lady gets a drop on her again, but then I think she's out of bullets or something. She sort of clicks it yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean something yeah, something cliche.
Speaker 2:The brother somehow throws a grenade down my favorite scene in the movie.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Joey, what's her name? Is able to hide, but the blonde woman takes the fullest impact from a grenade ever it shoots her across the room and then out one of the windows and she flies. It's the funniest thing I've ever seen. I love that scene so much. Tony, you should go edit this scene into our show.
Speaker 1:Okay, alright, I'll put the thing in there, don't worry.
Speaker 2:So funny. Edit in when she shoots the coffee cup. The guy with the coffee cup, ah.
Speaker 1:Oh God, yeah, yeah, no, I'll do the whole shooting scene so people can understand how wild that was. Oh, but Because I'm not recommending people go watch this movie. Spoiler alert for the end.
Speaker 2:Now did you laugh when she flew out the window?
Speaker 1:Oh, I laughed a bunch in this movie. I just said the wrong things and yeah, no, this was great. Cartwheel's right out that way. She's dead, she gone, she's super dead from this little grenade.
Speaker 2:Tony, would you know how to make a new grenade work?
Speaker 1:Don't you just hold it down and pull the pin and then you throw it. Is that how they still work? I don't know. I don't know. Have we had upgrades to grenade technology? Maybe?
Speaker 2:I have no idea how a grenade works now.
Speaker 1:I know how to stop a grenade. Captain America taught me that you just jump on it.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's.
Speaker 1:Don't do that.
Speaker 2:Don't do it. Maybe, if you're made out of Captain America flesh, you might be able to survive.
Speaker 1:Which obviously I am. That's true, as you can tell from my physique.
Speaker 2:Okay, here we go. Okay, now we set up the 15 minutes to encrypt it and then we can share it. And then so he, the blonde woman in the control center, is then like cutting on a, uh, a little intro he has and the intro is this is all going to be worth it.
Speaker 2:Um, oh wait, no wait. This is where she says it. Oh boy, yeah. Basically she sees the video that he's gonna gonna put on there and the video is like I'll be dead when you're seeing this. And she's all like wait, wait a second, we're not gonna all die and then so she runs away and then gets shot what do you mean instantly by the one other person that's still alive there?
Speaker 1:oh, so terrible well, you know, you think that you're gonna live and then they tell you not, it's hard, it's tough, tough stuff.
Speaker 2:And so then daisy and the brother get in there, and this is when we have the little tiny bit of conflict, where the brother realizes that what they're doing is actually a good thing. Yeah, to which case he should have just sat down and sent that. You know what they should have done, oh man Talk to me.
Speaker 2:Oh, this would have been so good. This would have fixed the stupid movie. She should have said blah blah, blah, blah, whatever. And then he's like okay. And then she takes the disc right at a certain point but he has a couple of seconds. You know he has a minute or something there. You know something happens and she has to do with it. She comes back, he hands her. He hands her the disc because he's gonna chase the.
Speaker 2:The bad guy's gonna chase her with the disc right, do the whole chase and at the end she goes down there and the cop is there and she's like give me the disc. And she's all like and we find out that claire is a piece of shit too she's all like they're gonna, yeah. And there's like these guys standing there and they're like they'll, they'll just kill you yeah we gotta cover this shit up. She like reluctantly hands him the disc, but he had made a copy or whatever you know, he's all like. He's all like oh yeah, I put it on the cloud. Am I an idiot?
Speaker 2:yeah, and you were like and the that would have given the brother actually because he didn't do anything did he?
Speaker 1:No, daisy barely does anything. To be fair, she has like three fights in the movie. It's very lackluster, so neither of them do very much.
Speaker 2:No, but you know that would have been a good twist at the end.
Speaker 1:Sure, yeah, that would have been a nice ending.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they did not do that. No, no, no. Then Noah and Joey go there and he's sitting there and then she tries to move on him and he set a trap with this thing, whips around and hits her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know when did he have time to do that?
Speaker 2:Then they fight and then it turns For like a minute. It was a very short, very uninteresting fight.
Speaker 1:It was a very short, very uninteresting fight. It was very anticlimactic, as they say, and she wins, of course.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, pretty easily, pretty easily, and she has, during the course of this fight, taken a thing off of his wrist and put it onto her wrist.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he didn't even know. He didn't even know, didn't even feel it. Yeah, I mean, luckily we set her up in the beginning in the movie as a pickpocket. Oh wait, no, no, she's a climber. I forgot.
Speaker 2:I have no idea. It's almost like you should have set that up at the beginning.
Speaker 1:You would do something. Maybe she goes and steals something from the dad's pocket, sneaks down, steals his money clip, sneaks out of the window, climbs down, goes and buys herself a pack of cigarettes and just sits back and relax. That's the beginning of the movie. I'm eight years old.
Speaker 2:So then she defeats him, and then he's holding onto the rope and then he's like I'll still get what I want, because when I die, blah, blah, blah. And then she's all like here's the thing. They shot it terribly right. You can barely tell she's flipping him the finger right yeah, well, they're at a low.
Speaker 1:I think it's because they're at a low angle to signify where he is at so like when it's all you see is like a little finger sticking up like that, and it's like what's, what's that?
Speaker 2:and it's at a weird, not as impactful and it's at a weird angle, so it's kind of like you know like what's happening.
Speaker 1:You know you should. I mean, that's a simple should have gone hard, you know, given the whole fuck you dude, that's just, that's like one of those things where you're shooting and you just very quickly gonna be like, oh wait, let's reset and have you flick off towards the camera. Please, daisy, let's get this aim it towards the camera.
Speaker 2:Let's get a couple, let's get a little bit of coverage on this, because that looked like shit, yeah yeah, I don't know oh my god. And then she kicks him too, doesn't she just then kick him to his death? She kicks him to his death.
Speaker 1:Kapow. Yeah, it's great, easy peasy.
Speaker 2:Everyone files out. She meets the thing Meets Claire. Claire's like handed over and she's all like what? The disc? I never had any disc. Then she's like and you got to give the 33 million back too, and that would have been the other thing is is what's his name at the? You know he's like so then they. So then they breathe. Oh, then they go.
Speaker 1:Let me do the news who's who's 33 million is it's the corporation, corporation 33 million yeah so that would have been a nice moment to send that out to everybody you know.
Speaker 2:What we should have done. We should have got to the end with the brother, right? He's like oh yeah, I got it all. They're all getting in trouble. And she's like what? Because they meet on the seaside for an unknowable reason. Right, yeah, cause they meet like on the seaside for an unknowable reason, right, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then he should have said oh yeah, and there was all this money in that, this, this account. She's all like, yeah, he's all like, yeah, I only took a million for us, but I also took a million for this and a million for this, and and he should have just been listing off a thousand things as as, and he should have just been listing off a thousand things as we fade out and we're just like we have taken. Then you've taken their ill-gotten gains right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no one's going to take that money from them. Nope, they're still fine, like the rest of the corporation. They lost their CEOs, but they're fine. They're just going to bring a new board member up and keep doing what they do Make the brother work, give him, make him the hero. He solved the problem. He's the social justice hero of the movie.
Speaker 2:I love it and you know how long you and I have been thinking about this stupid movie.
Speaker 1:Well, like two weeks for me, Dan, because you were sick last week.
Speaker 2:Well, I didn't really think about the movie after I watched it. The only time I've thought about it is in this hour and 31 minutes, and we've already rewritten many of the plot points of this movie to make them actually entertaining and satisfying.
Speaker 1:I just want to be clear, because if people think that I spend a lot of time thinking about this movie in two weeks, I didn't, that was a joke. I didn't spend one second thinking about this movie once I pushed stop, okay, terrible.
Speaker 2:Anything else you want to say about the acting or anything like that?
Speaker 1:I mean I didn't talk too much about Taz, but I just want to reiterate I thought he was really bad. I didn't find him believable or interesting. I didn't like him. I just want to get that across. What about Daisy Ridley? I think she's fun. Yeah, I like her. I think, you know, in a better vehicle she'd be great. I mean, I love her as Rey. Obviously I haven't seen her in much else.
Speaker 2:That might be on me, though you didn't watch Black Doves.
Speaker 1:I don't even know what that is, because when you said it, I immediately thought Black Swan, and she's not in that. Black doves is a. I think it's a netflix. Okay, well, we canceled our netflix five to seven episodes.
Speaker 2:It's this other guy. She's like a spy, um 10 out of 10. It's one of those things that they put out there and everybody was like I don't buy this. And then it came out. I think it was her. Oh, maybe it was kira knightley. Was it kira knightley? I also love kira knightley now. Oh, go look it up. Look up black doves real.
Speaker 1:All right, ben ben, but wait, isn't kira knightley in black?
Speaker 2:swan. Who's in black swan? No, that's natalie portman, you're right about that.
Speaker 1:uh, all right, black doves kira oh it's Keira Knightley.
Speaker 2:Oops, yeah, oops, oops, sorry Daisy.
Speaker 1:Confused you Brits. The two of them look a lot alike and sound a lot alike.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they do, they really do. They do sound a lot alike. Same posh level and it's Ben Whishaw. Black Doves was great. Black Doves was 10 out of 10. And it was one of those things that you were like, oh man, we'll see about this, and then you watch the whole thing and it's great, and then the consensus is great. And they renewed it for a second season almost instantaneously but, only after it was on. So you were like that's what's really nice. Because everybody enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like. Oh, everybody likes it, let's do it again. Come on now. Gotta love that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, yeah. So that's good. Now we talk about things we like. We've been off for a week so I only have six or seven things I know.
Speaker 1:I had a list.
Speaker 2:I've had to whittle it down to two things, but you go I watched this one netflix and called life list, which is about like this this, this girl, her mom passes away and her mom is like has her like things she has to do since she was 15? You know, like when she was 15, she wrote out these are all the things I want to do, and so the mom is like you got to do these things and it was good. It was a lot of pressure.
Speaker 2:It was just a sweet normal movie and you're like we need more of these movies you can just watch and not have any stakes in. You're just like, oh, this is a movie, I finally watched Wicked.
Speaker 1:Did you like it? I liked it.
Speaker 2:I didn't love it, you liked it, I liked it. I didn't love it, you liked it. I don't like the songs. The songs are not. It's not music I like.
Speaker 1:Any of the songs. You don't like Gravity, you don't like Popular, it's okay.
Speaker 2:Dan, it's fine. I mean they're good. I'm not saying I dislike them, they're just. They're not the things I like. They're not what you want. Now let me ask I dislike them.
Speaker 1:They're just. They're not the things I like and they're not what you. They're not what you want. Now let me ask you how did you feel about Jonathan Bailey in Wicked? Who's that? He's the prince, the dude the dude, yeah the dude.
Speaker 2:I surprisingly liked him a lot more than I thought.
Speaker 1:He's so fucking charming.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're in love with him. He's great, ariana is brilliant.
Speaker 1:She's so good. Here's the thing. I was really unsure about her going into the movie just because I don't listen to the music and she seems kind of weird. She knocked this out of the park.
Speaker 2:She was so good in this movie she plays a at times unsympathetic character, but at times sympathetic character.
Speaker 1:And to play that line is so hard.
Speaker 2:She just dances it so hard. But then it's also funny that it's also completely self-absorbed and you can just feel her character arc. And it's just beautiful, it's great and she is vocally a genius, and I think she's comedically a genius also.
Speaker 1:And then cynthia what I'm on it. Yeah, I'm just agreeing with you. Just based on this movie, I was like I will. I will buy into everything you just said.
Speaker 2:Yeah and cynthia is absolutely amazing and I think they really with all the different ages of people. I thought you know. It felt you know because you're sure part of me is thinking, oh well, these people that should be playing these should be 19 years old. But no, they're not yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1:I'm interested to see how they're not calling it part two. But whatever part two is called this year, because the the two songs that are named popular and gravity are like the two big songs.
Speaker 2:Do they have a lot more songs to put in the other one?
Speaker 1:Not really, there's like there's songs but there's no like hits in the second one and and I heard that they're trying to write doing some original songs and I don't know man, I'm some original songs and I don't know man, I'm I'm a little nervous. I loved, I loved wicked and I'm very excited to see it, but I just I, I hope it does as well.
Speaker 2:I hope people liked it enough to give it the second half a shot um, yeah, so I, I, I think I fell asleep a little during part of it. Some of the wizard, some of the wizard stuff, which was like some of the Jeff Goldblum stuff. I'll go back and rewatch it oh man. Black Mirror comes back. I have started one of those.
Speaker 2:There's a really good documentary on Hulu called the World According to Allie Willis, about Allie Willis, who was a super interesting songwriter who wrote lots of big pop songs and she also co-wrote the the color purple musical and oh wow we know people she. She passed away, but we know people that know her, and so super interesting watch.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, okay, um, very cool and I rewatched.
Speaker 2:I was re-watching the movie sing, and you just watch movies that are well made and like one. They're introducing all the characters and they're introducing, uh, rosita, the pig played by, um, what's her name? Um, legally blonde, and and she's like taking care of all the other little pigs. And at one point she's like walking and she kicked something and you're like out of the way and you're like, oh, she could dance. And you're like out of the way and you're like, oh, she could dance, sure, and you're like you have told. And now, when I see her dance, and she's a good dancer, I don't question.
Speaker 1:Makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2:I don't question it for a second, because they have shown us something, and that's what's problem with a stupid movie like Cleaner, is they never? We never have any idea who she is.
Speaker 1:She climbs out a window and then sits in it. Okay, I can't believe you would say that, Dan.
Speaker 2:And the other big news is Voodoo Donuts opened a new location here in LA, which is right around the corner from us. Oh it's that close.
Speaker 1:I saw you posted on Instagram you or Shannon posted it on Instagram, I can't remember and I was like the pictures look good. It's right, I'm in it's right by Pink's.
Speaker 2:It's where the Chipotle was that was next to Pink's.
Speaker 1:Oh good, I don't really like Chipotle. Anyway, that's a dangerous corner. Now, oh boy, dangerous Corner. Now, oh boy, dangerous Corner.
Speaker 2:Get a little hot dog, a little donut, that's a good day and it has like a 10 or 12 spot parking lot.
Speaker 1:That's nice. Yeah, it's very nice, because Pink's does not. Pink's is terrible.
Speaker 2:What do you got, Tony?
Speaker 1:Oh boy, I also have a documentary. What Well, I have two things things. So this past week the greatest movie of all time turned 30 years old. It's, of course, disney's a goofy movie oh, they did the documentary didn't. And they did a documentary, not just a goof. I cried it's.
Speaker 2:I just love this I love this movie so much.
Speaker 1:It's a wonderful movie. The doc Doc's great. You should just watch it. I don't like kids movies. It's still underrated as a movie, which is bizarre to me, and I guess it didn't do well in the theaters, which I didn't realize, but anyhow, so watch that, that's wonderful. And then we watched, cover to cover over the last week, mid-century modern, which is a Hulu sitcom.
Speaker 2:Oh, is that what you been calling?
Speaker 1:Is modern, which is uh hulu sitcom. Is that what you've been calling? Is that nathan lane? It is nathan lane and that guy? Oh fuck, he is still gotta dude. Nathan lane is so funny in this show. Okay, he's. The rest of the cast is not quite nathan lane level well, yeah, but I don't even care, like I don't even care.
Speaker 1:He's so good. There's moments that I'm like crying, laughing, just from the way he delivers a basic line. I just I don't know how he does it. He's unbelievable. Uh, the whole show's worth a watch. There is uh trump. What is what do you call like trauma alert or whatever. There is uh one of the cast members passes away during the film literally, yeah, she passed away.
Speaker 2:So they do like a whole episode tribute to her or whatever. There is, one of the cast members passes away during the film, literally, like actually Literally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she passed away, so they do like a whole episode tribute to her and I was just fucking wrecked. So maybe skip episode nine if you guys don't want to see that. But it's great, it's a fun show, it's a fine show, but Nathan Lane is so good that it becomes like a good show.
Speaker 2:It is an incredible performance that will bring up a normal show. Well, that's cool. Yes, 100%. You don't have five more things.
Speaker 1:I mean, I have more, but maybe I won't have one for next week, so I'm saving something you never know.
Speaker 2:We were going to do a special show next week, but we're not going to do that because I don't want to? Oh, because Dan found something.
Speaker 1:We're not going to do that because I don't want to oh because Dan found something.
Speaker 2:No, I just looked at my list and there's one I wanted to do, but I don't remember what it was. So I just was looking at my list and I was like what's a movie we should do? That's going to maybe make us angry, because we're going to be sitting there.
Speaker 1:Get fired up.
Speaker 2:It's going to make us angry.
Speaker 1:Oh boy, what are we?
Speaker 2:doing so we go talk to Adam Sandler, because you've got to talk to the Sandman.
Speaker 1:He's my buddy.
Speaker 2:He's my buddy, he's my boy, and you know, he's not just a comedian now, he's a serious actor. He did the Uncut Gems. Then he did another movie that was serious, and that movie is Spaceman.
Speaker 1:I don't even know what Spaceman is. What is Spaceman?
Speaker 2:Spaceman 2024. You don't know what Spaceman is. What is Spaceman? Spaceman 2024. I don't know what Spaceman is.
Speaker 1:Where's the six months into a solo mission? Oh boy, Lonely astronaut confronts the cracks in his marriage with help from a mysterious creature. What is happening? What are you talking about? This isn't a movie that came out.
Speaker 2:How did I not know about this? It's Spaceman. I can't believe we didn't ever talk about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oof, okay. So we're watching Spaceman and it might be good. I don't think so, because Sandler is a decent actor. He's a great actor. I like him a lot, especially when he tries. He's a great actor.
Speaker 2:I like him a lot, especially when he tries.
Speaker 1:I was watching him on Conan.
Speaker 2:You know Conan's like talk show His internet podcast or whatever it is. I think something happened to him.
Speaker 1:I think he got broken somewhere. Oh, that's not good. Yeah, I think the business drove him insane, or not insane, but just like stole his enjoyment of the thing he loved most I mean, which is, I would totally buy that, because I mean, especially if you watch like the trajectory of his movies, like response wise, like he went through this like high, highest of highs, and then got real, real, real low and now he's kind of back and in favor after he's been doing some stuff but like that's got to fuck with you.
Speaker 2:I think he's afraid to put himself out there because of the hurt that can occur through the process. So you do safe things, so that's why we're going to beat up on him next week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he'll love that. You know, I actually met Adam Sandler once, Sort of we were in line at the Santa Monica roller coaster and he was in front of us Me and my brother so we said hi to him, told him we were big fans. He wasn't interested. He's having a day with his family. So I was like no, totally cool, we just wanted you to know.
Speaker 2:Oh well, that's nice he was yeah, no he was, I mean, he was very nice, he wasn't rude at all, he wasn't a dick, he just was like oh, thanks guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was like oh, thank you, I'm here with my family and we're like yeah, no, no, totally get it.
Speaker 2:Just wanted you to work.
Speaker 1:You work for me.
Speaker 2:Oh, to be a celebrity. So, we'll be doing Spaceman. Maybe it'll be good.
Speaker 1:Can't believe we've never heard of this movie. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Spaceman, it did not.
Speaker 1:You know, it didn't do much just because I never heard of it. I had Netflix when it came out and I never heard of it. I had Netflix when it came out and I never heard of it. I was doing something.
Speaker 2:I was doing, some research, and I ended up on a remake of the Magnificent Seven, called Magnificent Seven, just with the number Directed by Anton Fuqua.
Speaker 1:Is that someone I should know he's like?
Speaker 2:some weird action guy Came out in 2018, denzel Washington. Oh, this is a Chris Pratt movie. Chris Pratt, yeah, I've heard of this. I put it on in the background, wasn't watching it Listening to Chris Pratt Chris Pratt's truly terrible, truly truly terrible.
Speaker 1:That's a given. Maybe we should do that someday. Christmas. Truly terrible, Truly truly terrible. That's a given. That's a given. Maybe we should do that someday. No, no, my dad doesn't want to do it.
Speaker 2:That means we're definitely going to do it at some point, because I thought about it and. I did not write it down.
Speaker 1:I'm writing it down right now, you're going to forget about that movie and then, like six months from now, boom, I'm going to spring it on you.
Speaker 2:I just keep going back to Electric State and how neither of them could put in a performance that could keep you even moderately interested.
Speaker 1:Any no-captivation. Is that a word Captivation, no-captivity? I don't know.
Speaker 2:So we'll be back with Spaceman next week. If you like what you see, give us a thumbs up. All those other things.
Speaker 1:Comment like subscribe. Yeah, and we'll be back. You're better at that than I am. Good night, tony. Goodbye everybody. Hey watch it With Dan and Tony. Hey watch it.
Speaker 2:With Dan and Tony. It watching Dan and Tony, it's like watching yeah.