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What happens when a movie starring Nicholas Cage as a flame-headed biker fails to ignite the same excitement as Iron Man? This week, we roll up our sleeves and prepare for Halloween with a critical and comedic review of the 2007 Marvel superhero film, Ghost Rider! We kick off by pitting Ghost Rider against Iron Man, marveling at the stark differences in quality, execution, and impact, even though they were released just a year apart. We take you through the wild ride of Johnny Blaze's transformation, the lackluster portrayal of the Devil by Peter Fonda, and the baffling transition from young Johnny Blaze to Nicholas Cage.
Prepare for some laughs as we highlight the absurdity of the plot and characters—from Johnny's implausible discovery of his father’s cancer diagnosis to the daredevil's contradictory stunts. We dive into the film's few redeeming moments, like the high-octane motorcycle jump set to "Crazy Train" and the introduction of quirky characters like Blaze’s manager, Mac, and the rain-emerging villain, Dark Duskman. We don't shy away from scrutinizing the dynamics of the elemental villains and poking fun at the odd interactions and props, such as Johnny Blaze’s “swagger stick” and Eva Mendez's character, Roxy's, lost demeanor.
As we bring our analysis to a close, we take a hilarious journey through Johnny Blaze’s epic motorcycle chases, his playful banter with Roxy, and the quirky elements Nicolas Cage brought to the character. We also touch on the film's chaotic narrative, jarring pacing, and the peculiar logic behind Ghost Rider’s abilities. Finally, we wrap up with some chatter about TV shows and movies, including the latest season of "Only Murders in the Building" and the new "Borderlands" movie. Join us for a rollercoaster of an episode filled with critiques, laughter, and reflections on this chaotic Marvel film.
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Ghost Rider Movie Review and Analysis
Speaker 1We're going to do this show. Tony, you know I got extra. I did a whole extra page of notes on this one.
Speaker 2You love Nick Cage so much.
Speaker 1Oh my God, do I have six pages? I got six pages. You have six.
Speaker 2I have a page and a half what happened in this movie. I have two and a half pages, so a lot goes on in this movie. A lot goes on in this movie. Hey watching with Dan and Tony. Hey watching with Dan and Tony. It's like watching.
Speaker 1Yeah, Welcome to hey Watching with Dan and Tony. I'm Dan, I'm Tony, and on this show we watch a movie, and the movie we watched this time was pre-gaming for Halloween, because Halloween's coming up. I picked the seminal Marvel superhero classic movie Ghost Rider.
Speaker 2Ghost Rider, did you just emphasize the H? Love that 2007.
Speaker 1I think it was an hour and 54 minutes. When do you think Iron man came out? When did Iron man came out? Look that up, Tony. Okay, yeah, because I was like, are you?
Speaker 2asking me to remember off the top of my head, because I want to say 2005, but I'm sure I'm wrong. It was way off, it's 2008. So it came out a year after they did this movie and they're like wow, marvel movies are great, let's make another one.
Speaker 1So, in other words, they paid $7 for the rights to make a Ghost Rider movie and then spent all the money.
Speaker 2Yeah, man, I mean what a difference a year makes. Can you believe that, from how Ghost Rider looks and feels to Iron man, I mean, wow, what a difference.
Speaker 1Ghost Rider is kind of like a TV show. That's it.
Speaker 2But like one that gets canceled midway through the first season.
Speaker 1Oh, you didn't like this movie.
Speaker 2I mean there were parts that I really enjoyed, but generally the parts I enjoyed weren't the Ghost Rider parts. I don't know if that's just me.
Speaker 1I have to say I was not disappointed. I was like, okay, there are things in this movie that you're just like do they know how to make a movie? Why does this feel like they don't know how to make?
Speaker 2a movie. They do not know how to movie. You know how to make a movie, they do not know how to move it.
Speaker 1You know how to move it. This feels like you know where they just they slide. You know a backdrop, you know in front of the camera, and then they're like okay, people do something.
Speaker 2They're like we're doing things.
Speaker 1I'm doing things, yeah. And then other parts. You're like, wow, I kind of like this. This is kind of interesting. Sure, yeah, I don't know if the guy that directed this went on to do anything else, but Should I look it up? Yeah, you're not quite sure. You're like should this guy be punished eternally? Should the Ghost Rider punish him eternally, or should the Ghost Rider give him a second chance? I don't know.
Speaker 2I don't know. I don't know either, and I can't wait to get to the end of this movie, because I'm really confused. Dan, you're confused. I'm confused. This movie kind of made sense Kind of. I mean, I thought it made perfect sense up until the final decision, where he's like you know what? I'm going to stay Ghost Rider, I'm just going to do that.
Speaker 1It actually doesn't make sense in the way that they've set up this movie to me.
Speaker 2He does get to the end and he's all like. You know it's a, it's a burden, but I'm gonna just keep being. I'm just in. I'm in now. You know this was pretty fun in the end. Like, what are you talking about, dude? You hated it the whole time. Um, the answer, damn, is no oh, did he go to tv? No, it does. No, so let me just let me break this. Oh shit, this guy. Okay, here we go, first directing simon birch. He did simon birch fine movie, right you don't know them.
Speaker 1That's a joke. Uh then daredevil 2003, oh wow.
Speaker 2Then they were like that went really well. Let's get another movie a few years later in ghost rider. Then he went to when in rome, that krist Kristen Bell rom-com. That's just awful, it's a movie. It's a movie. You know what? We'll probably do it on here for Valentine's Day. How about that?
Speaker 1Yeah, we should do that for.
Speaker 2Valentine's Day and then did something called Killing Season, which I don't know. What that is Finding Steve McQueen in 2019. Like he took seven years off since finding Steve McQueen Something called Love Guaranteed Love in the Villa. I don't know. Are these Hallmark movies now? I don't know, but he only has eight directing credits total.
Speaker 1You know, someday we should meet one of these people.
Speaker 2We should get these people on the show, Dan. We should do interviews with these people and tell them how bad their movies are, but how much we enjoy them.
Speaker 1I'd like to meet someone that does something that's like this. And then you say to them what did you do for seven? How did you survive for seven years?
Speaker 2Because you're not getting millions of dollars after, like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1I mean, there's not tons of residuals pouring in from Ghost Rider.
Speaker 2I can't imagine. No, I can't imagine either.
Speaker 1So I'm always intrigued as to you know, are they doing second unit director stuff? Are they doing commercials?
Speaker 2I mean not according to IMDB. That's all I'm going to say. Well, commercials don't get listed on IMDB. But yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1It'd be interesting to hear from one of these people that did a big tentpole sort of movie and then just disappeared. It was seven years. Think about it. You make so much money on the movie, you're just sitting at home ordering pizzas every night for seven years I do that and I don't make any money on movies, so I get it.
Speaker 2Can you imagine if I did make a bunch of money, boy, would I do a whole lot of nothing.
Speaker 1Yeah, you know, people pay Tony to work. It's just very confusing.
Speaker 2Not enough. Pay me more, guys. I want to do it.
Speaker 1Nicolas Cage as the Ghost Rider, you know, I think a little more inspired by the sort of 90s reboot of Ghost Rider. The motorcycle kind of looks like that one, which I never read, so I don't know what the basic plot was. I thought the plot was kind of interesting.
Speaker 2Which part of the plot.
Speaker 1Well, the idea is, the devil empowers someone with the ghostwriter power, right, and then that person is a spirit of vengeance who sort of. Well, there's two things. There's that, which is what the character probably did in the comic book, so they kind of get there by the end and you're like, okay, that makes sense. And then they also there's this whole setup in the movie where he's got to find this contract for a thousand souls and then has to hand that to the devil because the devil can't get it.
Speaker 2I don't understand any of that Sort of in a church, but also like Dan, is a thousand souls really even that many souls?
Speaker 1Doesn't seem like a lot of money.
Speaker 2If the devil's hustling, he could easily get more than a thousand souls a day just on Earth. So many more people than that die every day. I don't know. It's confusing.
Speaker 1I'm going to look that up and they also said that basically in the movie. If the devil doesn't get those thousand souls, that thousand souls is enough to tip it to the next guy.
Speaker 2Right, which, no, that doesn't make any sense. Listen to this how many people die each day in 2024? Boy, there's a lot of ads on this. In the united states alone, deaths per day is 8 341 on average. Oh well, that's in china, it's 31 000 a day. Just go to china, devil.
Speaker 1Just go to china, you're gonna get them, yeah but these souls were all like, these people were especially wicked.
Speaker 2Yeah, they're angry souls.
Speaker 1You don't get that kind of wickedness.
Speaker 2Not every soul is built the same. That's the moral of this movie.
Speaker 1And the other thing about Ghost Rider is he's Johnny Blaze, it's his human form, blaze is his human form. And then when he becomes the Ghost Rider, he just becomes this sort of force and doesn't really think about things. He just knows what he's doing and so every time he sort of has to beat a bad guy, he's just like oh, you're a bad guy, I'll do this and that'll defeat you. And then he just does that.
Speaker 1Yeah, there's no fight, which is weird, yeah, in the sense that there's no give or take in the confrontations.
Speaker 2Yeah, yep, nope, he's just kind of like ah, I'm going to boil you. And now I boiled you.
Speaker 1I was like okay what is the point of this? As long as I have Ghost Rider powers, I'm just going to. But I mean, that's the way it sort of should be. That's the way it should be with supernatural beings, is that? You're not going to win. Human being not going to win.
Speaker 2Well, sure, sure Human being, but they should be a little more equal when they're both powered.
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying? That that's a, that's a choice you could have made it is a choice. I'll give you that I mean it would lead to longer fights, which would be more expensive and more interesting, I would argue.
Speaker 2But you know. But also, sometimes fights are too long, right, and if they're not good, then I complain. I get you, just can't win with me. All right, no one's ever won with Tony.
Speaker 1So we set it up. We got what's his name. Who's the? Oh Ruffman, what's his name.
Speaker 2Is that your Sam Elliott? Sam Elliott.
Speaker 1Sam Elliott plays the caretaker. He works in a graveyard and buries people, and he's also the narrator.
Speaker 2Which is confusing.
Speaker 1Yeah, because he knows everything. He does a whole legends and tall tales.
Speaker 2Legends are born.
Speaker 1And this is the legend of Ghost Rider. Right Okay, the Ghost Rider, right Okay, the Ghost Rider. Every generation, a damn soul, is chosen by the devil to be the Ghost Rider, which isn't the case at all.
Speaker 2Okay, yeah, it doesn't seem to be right, even in their own movie. Yep, it's very confusing. He sets up this whole mythology. That just isn't right from the beginning.
Speaker 1He says that there's one every generation, and then when he meets him, he's like there hasn't been one for 150 years.
Speaker 2You're like well, that's kind of lame, why?
Speaker 1I mean, I guess he is the old one, so maybe he has to quit or be retired for a new one to happen, for there to be a new one?
Speaker 2I mean, I guess. But then don't tell me that every generation there's a new one, because apparently you could just live forever. If you just decide not to do your one job and somehow the devil can't find you when you're just digging gray. It's all very murky. I don't understand the rules of it all, dan.
Speaker 1And the devil in this thing is Mesistopheles. But in I believe, that's what they called him. That's what they called him. I don't know what that is, that's just another way to say the devil. And then, on the Like, on the one page they said he was Mephisto, which is a different character.
Speaker 2Is that different? Yeah, different character, totally different guy. I thought maybe it was like a cool nickname that they gave him. You know no.
Speaker 1Mephistopheles and Mephisto different characters. I think I'm pretty sure they're different. I don't think that's a contraction of the other one.
Speaker 2I believe it. I don't know the difference.
Speaker 1So the first one is this caretaker whose name is something, something carter and then in the in the flashback to him, he doesn't turn into the flaming skull head he's just a dude on a horse.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, but don't, don't worry, he flames out later he does no reason for no reason, then does absolutely no reason so he is.
Speaker 1He was supposed to go and collect this uh scroll that had a thousand dead souls on it. Not sure how you put dead souls on a scroll, but okay, don't worry about that. But then he's all like these are too much power to give to the devil, so I'm going to hide them in a church Just not.
Speaker 2I'm just going to not.
Speaker 1I guess that's my decision, I mean, once you've been ghosted, what worse things are going to happen to you? I mean, once you've been Ghost Rider, what worse things are going to happen to you? I mean, I guess Devil's like. I'll kill a bunch of children.
Speaker 2You're like no, you won't. Nah, I don't believe you, mr Devil, I just it's confusing because he's in hiding right.
Speaker 1No, he just works at a graveyard.
Speaker 2So he just so, the devil just can't come.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean, what's the devil going to do?
Speaker 2Give him grief Kill him? I don't know.
Speaker 1I mean, this is one of those movies where the devil's powers are highly suspect.
Speaker 2At best he almost does nothing in this movie.
Speaker 1No he walks up and says things occasionally. Yeah, that's, true, not very devil-y in my book. So we cut, we do the titles, we cut to the state fair the amazing blazing stunt show. It's not spectacular, it's a father and a son. They're jumping through hoops of fire. We're like who are these guys? And then we realize that the younger guy is johnny blaze, who's gonna become nick johnny blaze cage?
Speaker 1yeah, you couldn't tell, because they look so much alike, dan they don't look alike no, they don't they don't even like, he doesn't even the kid doesn't even put on on a bit of an affectation. Nicholas Cage is Nicholas Cage, yeah.
Speaker 2You can do a slight. It doesn't have to be a 100% like oh I'm doing Nicholas Cage, but give us a little, Give us a tiny hint that you're going to turn into the crackpot that is Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 1That does not happen. So the kid's out there and he, he's riding, and he, he hits a rock and he's like oh almost die.
Speaker 2He almost dies from hitting a little tiny rock yeah, that's not a good start for your daredevil journey yeah, um yeah.
Speaker 1His dad yells at him and tells him don't show off for a girl right now was he showing off for a girl.
Speaker 2Right Now, Dan, Was he showing off for a girl? I mean, he was a little because he was looking at the girl in the stands and he kind of did like a and then hit the rock. But my thing is you're a daredevil, sir. Your entire job is to show off.
Speaker 1That's what you do yeah, but not for a stupid girl, for an audience You're telling me that I would wager.
Speaker 2I'm just. This is based on no information, but I'm going to wager. 95% of daredevils go into it to impress a girl. No, you're right, not a girl. All girls.
Speaker 1That's better. Tony, all girls, thank you, I think that works.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think so I don't know, it's weird, it's an ego thing, no matter how you look at it. So it's just a strange thing to tell hey, don't show off. Now, let's go jump 50 cars, okay, but don't show off.
Speaker 1Stupid, this is real dumb. He doesn't listen to his dad much. So he goes and meets his girl, roxy, at the tree and he carves in the J forever Roxy in the tree and you're like, oh, they're in love. And then he's like I'm leaving. Oh, he goes back to there and his dad's passed out and he's like I'm going to leave, but then he finds out that wait, no, yeah, he just finds he's going to leave with the girl.
Speaker 2He's going to leave with the girl, which is some of the worst dialogue ever written. By the way, these two kids under this tree it's painful to listen to. I don't know.
Speaker 1This whole first coda, this whole pre-Nick Cage, being Ghost Rider no.
Speaker 2Should have cut the whole thing out.
Speaker 1Should have just started with Nick Cage. He should have just said my daddy was dying and I wanted to see him for one more day.
Speaker 2So I signed a contract. That's fine, good enough for me. Give me one line to summarize the first 10 minutes. We're good.
Speaker 1Or have him be like a nine-year-old and then put a plastic Nick Cage mask on his face and be like that was me when I was a baby.
Speaker 2That was me when I was a baby. That was me when I was a baby Looked like you're nine years old.
Speaker 1Little, I was a baby. So they're going to run off together. He goes home Dad's asleep with the scrapbook and smokes. Then he realizes that dad has cancer.
Speaker 2Well, he finds a piece of paper or something that just says hey, you got cancer.
Speaker 1How often do you go through the trash to see what is in there?
Speaker 2I go. Well, who's trash? My own trash, never Other people's trash. Daily, there it is. People throw away some jams, that is true. But why would you go through your own trash? I have no idea. I'm not a clue, I know what's in my trash.
Speaker 1So he goes back. He's like I'm worried about my dad, I better go work on bikes. He's working on his bikes. Here comes Peter Fonda as the devil. I'm the devil.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's not a great devil.
Speaker 1Except he walks by a light at one point and there's like this shadow and it's like decrepit. You're like oh, this is like the best special effect in the movie.
Speaker 2Yeah, and I think they used it one more time. I think Did they? I didn't see it, I think so. I think they used it twice, but not enough.
Speaker 1So the devil's basically like I'll save your dad If you give me your soul sign here, pokes him and he does it. He wakes up in the trailer and dad's like you know what?
Speaker 2I was dying of cancer and now I'm not and now I'm not. They knew that that day, yes, dad went to see the doctor. Yeah, I know he's like. Oh, they took my x-rays this morning. They said I'm all clear. All of that sounds suspicious to me. I don't know.
Speaker 1He should have said it with a cigarette hanging in his mouth.
Speaker 2A couple of them, because now he's cancer free. He says, oh yes, I can smoke all.
Speaker 1I want. So the next day they're doing the show again, but they're not doing the show. It's just the dad doing the show, which doesn't make any sense. Nope, and then the dad just dies.
Speaker 2Just kind of drives. I mean they show it. He kind of drives at an angle and tries to jump and just falls and it's pretty bad. It's it's pretty bad.
Speaker 1He's dead and you're like, oh man, well, gotcha, gotcha A couple hours, I guess.
Speaker 2Yeah, he got you good, the devil got you good. But yeah, you just gotta, you gotta hold your hands up and be like well done, well played, mr Devil, mr Devil, you got me, I'll do whatever you want.
Speaker 1So the kid rages out, he goes to the crossroads and he crashes, and then the devil walks up. He's like you can't die and he tries to punch the devil. The devil's like you can't punch the devil and then he's like I'm the devil. One of these days I'm going to come and collect on what you owe me, Whatever that might be Right, on what you owe me, whatever that might be Right, whatever I feel like, and he says, forget about love, forget about friends, family, family.
Speaker 2Why he had like 40 years? He could have done so much stuff.
Speaker 1You know what I mean. You're saying an adult, Nick Cage. Johnny Blaze is 60 years old.
Speaker 2Well, maybe not 60, but he's definitely 40?
Speaker 1Okay so 20 years? Yeah, yeah, but I mean, forget about love.
Speaker 2You had a bunch of time you could have been in love. This whole time he didn't need you. It wasn't like now you're my slave and I'm going to use you every day. He's like at some point in the future I'm going to come back, and when I come back you better not be in love or I'll be so mad at you. I didn't get it. I didn't understand it.
Speaker 1I'm going to come back at the beginning of the second act.
Speaker 2I'll see you soon, pal.
Speaker 1So then he breaks it off with the girl in the rain, and now all he does is ride. And then he morphs into Nick Cage, and this is when the movie starts this is when the movie should have started. Okay, we got through all those people that we're not interested in.
Speaker 2We don't need to see for the rest of the movie.
Speaker 1So he does this great. He does a hand thing, Does a double hand thing. He takes off, he's in the middle of a jump. They're playing crazy train. He makes the jump, but on the landing he eats it so hard. Like neck cracking, sliding up against the wall, You're like, oh yeah, that guy's dead.
Speaker 2Yeah, but he's not dead, he's fine.
Speaker 1He's not even injured.
Speaker 2That's what's great. He's totally fine. And what does he say? I don't know.
Speaker 1What does he say? Heck is the bike. Okay, he's more worried about the bike than his own life Okay. So I guess now his next jump is going to be over buses in Texas.
Speaker 2Why would it be bigger? He just didn't land a smaller one. I mean, listen, I don't understand anything about daredeviling, oh no, but it feels like.
Speaker 1That counts as a win. That's a win, oh yeah for sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2Okay, this isn't like the Olympics, where it's like four, two, no, no, all you got to do is hold up like signs with numbers from one to ten, show them off like a dunk contest. That may make it way more cool.
Speaker 1You just got to live, tony. It's a daredevil. It's all about living. So we find out he doesn't drink alcohol because it gives him nightmares. They're on the bus. They're on the bus, they're watching the news and the news is all like how much longer can Johnny Blaze cheat death? Next up here we jump in a football field full of buses yeah and we meet his manager, mac, played by Donald Logue. Love that guy, yeah, don't, don't fall too in love with him he's in it for a while, is he?
Speaker 1I mean a little bit, you know so here comes, it's raining, but then it's raining fire. And then here comes Mr Freeze, also known as Iceman, also known as Dark Duskman, darky, dark Duskman, darky, dark Duskman, dusky man.
Speaker 2Oof Boy. He's not my favorite not my favorite.
Speaker 1He this is per Wikipedia did drugs for a long time and then got off the drugs and then got on Yellowstone. Wow, great.
Critique of Ghost Rider Movie
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean, what a way to come back. Huh Shit, Yellowstone's great. It's the right place to be. I watched some of Yellowstone. I don't even remember. I'm sure he's in it.
Speaker 1I think he was one of the characters oh, one of the characters.
Speaker 2Okay, I was. Yeah, I was thinking totally different, so thank you for bringing me back on that I mean, it's not his fault in this movie, but it's bad. It's like really bad. It's it's kind of like ed from Twilight, but worse.
Speaker 1Well, Edward at least had something interesting to do.
Speaker 2I said worse. Okay, it just like. I don't know. He does this move a lot. Whose decision was that? You think it's like, after everything he says, he's aroused in a little bit Like oh, it's Johnny Blaze.
Speaker 1I mean, he just wants this magic scroll so that he can be king of hell.
Speaker 2Yeah, sure we don't really care? No, I don't really care. I also don't totally know what his powers are.
Speaker 1I don't really know who he is, he's, he's. You gotta remember they all have elements, so he's freezing, he's freezing, he's mr freeze.
Speaker 2First of all, freezing isn't an element. Yeah, ice is ice an element.
Speaker 1I mean it's because water hold on air. Ice is. Ice is a state.
Speaker 2Right, which is that's not what the other guys are. One of them is air, one of them is water, and then he's ice, which is like a combination of those two things, kind of what's the third guy? Was there a third guy? Is he fire? No, because Johnny Blaze is fire. Is he earth? He's sand. He's like sand Sand man Also not an element Sand. That's not one of the elements of earth Fire, earth air, water, sand.
Speaker 1So, and we see it right off the bat, there's a guy holding a beer and the beer freezes, so he's Mr Freeze.
Speaker 2Yeah, no, I mean like I understand that he's the cold guy, dan. What I'm saying is I don't understand what that means.
Speaker 1He pokes a guy in the chest and then freezes his heart, freezes his whole body.
Speaker 2But then sometimes he touches things and they don't freeze.
Speaker 1Just because he doesn't want them to freeze.
Speaker 2Right, but can he throw cold? Because it seems like sometimes he can. He can probably throw it, but wouldn't you want to do that more often? Why are you getting close? I don't know. It's confusing to me.
Speaker 1He's safe from Johnny, please because he doesn't have a soul.
Speaker 2Spoilers Not yet, oh boy.
Speaker 1So he calls up all these people. He calls up the sand guy and the water guy and the air guy and they all are like woo. We all have names that no one will remember.
Speaker 2We will not say enough times, so you could ever remember them, nor would I want to Don't give them names.
Speaker 1So we're like, oh, so you're like, oh, okay, so just going to have to kill these guys one at a time and then that'll be cool. So he's jumping at the Sobe Dome leap of death. He's pre-gaming with some carpenters. Donald Logue brings him his what, what is that? What do you call that stick that he has there, tony?
Speaker 1he's got a stick, yeah, like a walking stick kind of like that, kind of like a walking stick, kind of like a cane. Do you know what they call that? Nope, I got nothing. It's called a swagger stick.
Speaker 2A swagger stick.
Speaker 1That's what it's called. A swagger stick is a kind of a, you know, a little like three-foot cane that doesn't have a hook on the end and you know, you maybe put a diamond on the end and people like Kingpin have them and even Knievel has one.
Speaker 2It's a swagger stick. I got my swagger stick I got my swagger stick I got my swagger stick. Swagger stick, swagger stick. I should get a swagger stick.
Speaker 1You should. He just drinks a pot of coffee right off the thing.
Speaker 2And it was like steaming right. Yeah, it was hot.
Speaker 1It was hot and he doesn't?
Speaker 2That's weird. What a weird choice. You can't live in fear, yeah, okay. He says that a bunch.
Speaker 1Now. So he's getting ready to go and walks out the door and boom, there's Eva Mendez, or Ms Gosling as we like to know her.
Speaker 2I thought you were going to remember her character name for a second. I was impressed.
Speaker 1Roxy.
Speaker 2Wow.
Speaker 1I read this shit down.
Speaker 2Oh well, that's smart, I'll never remember. I don't remember anyone's names, except for Johnny Blaze.
Speaker 1Johnny Blaze JB.
Speaker 2Jables. Why does she always look lost in this movie?
Speaker 1Oh, probably because they would just give her the script 30 seconds before she would be walking on the stage.
Speaker 2She just always feels like she doesn't quite know what's happening in the movie.
Speaker 1Well, yeah, she's never quite sure if she's supposed to be in love with him at this moment. Where's this scene going in the movie?
Speaker 2We don't know yet We'll figure it out later. Don't worry about it, just shoot it. I don't know yet. We'll figure it out later. Don't worry about it, just shoot it I don't know.
Speaker 1So he sees her and he's just like boing.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, Six to midnight.
Speaker 1He's like. I see you on TV. You look good. Are you married?
Speaker 2Well, he said I heard you got married yes. And then she's like no, I didn't. Why is that even in there? What a weird exchange. I heard you got married, oh, no, I I didn't. That was false news.
Speaker 1I don't like what uh, yeah, they had a history. They, you, you two had a history. And then she's all like, yeah, wait, is this? Do they do the interview now or do they?
Speaker 2this is the interview, because he's about to go up to the jump.
Speaker 1They do the interview. Do you want to talk about the interview?
Speaker 2It was offensive and she did not get nearly mad enough at this guy who just ogled her on television instead of answering a single GD question she asked I would have slapped the shit out of him. It was really weird.
Speaker 1The whole way. It was staged weird, it looked weird, it didn't make any sense, it was just. It felt like an improv, it felt like a bad.
Speaker 2second year improv yes.
Speaker 1Are you excited about the jump? Hey, is that. Excited about the jump? Hey, is that a new hairdo. Check out your moles A little bigger than it used to be.
Speaker 2You getting it checked out. You should get it checked out.
Speaker 1Gotta get those things checked out. Now is he doing, Elvis? What is he doing?
Speaker 2There is definitely An Elvis element to this johnny blaze character. I mean even when he did the hands at the when he was on the motorcycle, like it was very elvis, uh yeah, no, I mean it's definitely. It's definitely part of the character.
Speaker 1The guy's obsessed so boom, he's out there, ready to do the jump. She, she leaves in the van with the guy that drives with her. And then there's no buses and Donald Logue, his manager guy, is like oh good, I'm glad you got rid of the buses. He's like, yeah, I got rid of the buses.
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Speaker 1And then five black-hot helicopters descend from the sky and his manager is like why didn't you tell me you were switching to helicopters? You're like we're all like, wait a second. So Johnny Blaze just makes a command decision about his situation and nobody knows, calls the Black Hawk helicopter. People.
Speaker 2I had a couple of buddies that had some choppers laying around. They just came and flew in.
Speaker 1It was weird. So he just is like I gotta go because I gotta go chase my girl. So he just was like go for it, it just takes off yeah.
Speaker 2And nails the jump, great, the only jump. We see him land in the whole movie. That is true. And then he just rides out of the arena.
Speaker 1Yep Rides out of the arena, chases them down the news van on the highway. That's like my favorite scene in the whole movie. The whole movie, I think. So I think this is my favorite scene in the whole movie. This is a really fun scene. Sure, he is on a motorcycle. They're in a van. He pulls up to her side and is like there's banter. Then at one point he pulls back, pulls to the other side, bantering with the-.
Speaker 2The driver.
Speaker 1The cameraman driver has to avoid some trucks, then they won't stop. He screams out ahead, turns his bike, stops it, and then they have to stop. And stop just in time not to hit him.
Speaker 2Yeah because he's a daredevil.
Speaker 1And then, well, he's a motorcycle, he's a guy that understands where he would have to stop. Yeah, yeah, it shuts down the whole freeway. They rekindle their relationship.
Speaker 2I think he kisses her at this point Inappropriately, because she is not asking for it, but more importantly, dan, it's 2007. That's 17 years ago, you're allowed to kiss the girl 17 years ago you could kiss the girl.
Speaker 1This is not woke twisters where, like the girls, their lips never meet.
Speaker 2You're darn right, they don't, because the movie's not about that.
Speaker 1Dan.
Speaker 2The movie. It's not a relationship movie. It doesn't need to culminate in them kissing at the end the movie is about her falling back in love with weather put a ring on it before you get a kiss.
Speaker 1If you like it, man, you gotta put a ring on it when I was a kid back in my day.
Speaker 2Get your swagger stick out, old man. Yeah, more importantly, dan, he asks her on a date.
Speaker 1Yes, he does, do you?
Speaker 2remember what he asks her to go. What kind of restaurant? I-talian, i-talian why? Why does he say I-talian? Because it's really good. I love Nick Cage. I love him. He's always fun.
Speaker 1So they're going to go have dinner at 8 pm, do not be late. She tells him Do not be late, and then all these autograph seekers come from all the which is very funny. It was just it felt real. Like if Johnny Blaze was there, everyone would want a piece of it Be like oh shit, get a pen, baby, let's go. Yeah, and that's the end of the best scene in the whole movie.
Speaker 2And it's all downhill from here.
Speaker 1So Iceman and his boys. They meet up with Mistoffelees and they, you know, they're all like brr, this, that and brr.
Speaker 2Yeah, this, that and the other yeah.
Speaker 1So Roxy goes to meet him for dinner.
Speaker 2He just does not show up on time for no reason. No, there's a reason.
Speaker 1No, there's no reason. She's there ready to go and he's. He's back at home looking at himself in the mirror. He's like you, good, you good you good.
Speaker 2I thought the devil showed up, nope.
Speaker 1Nope, I thought the devil showed up. Nope, nope, nope, nope, not at all. There's no reason for it.
Speaker 2She is sitting there ordering wine at exactly 8 pm and he's just looking at himself in the mirror. Well, that's not all she does, Dan. What else does she do? She pulls out a magic eight ball From where why?
Speaker 1And this is the point where this movie starts making decisions that I'm like these are finally the right decisions.
Speaker 2This woman just carries a magic eight ball with her everywhere she goes. It's 2007. Those ads have been cool for 15 years. They're still cool, tony, oh God, incredible stuff.
Speaker 1It was pretty great. Does she even look at what the answer is?
Speaker 2Yeah, she shook it, looked at it and put it down, but I don't think she tells us what it says. I don't think so. No.
Speaker 1You're like what is happening? I'm sure Nick Cage was like okay, she's so bored, she pulls out her magic eight ball.
Speaker 2She does what Nick A magic eight ball, all right buddy's.
Speaker 1He's looking at himself in the mirror right, yeah, and then he's like you can't live in fear. And then he's starting to get hot. Then we cut back to her she's drinking wine, then messes, then then they're in that. Oh, he goes out in the alley and there's a cycle waiting and then he meets the devil.
Speaker 1So she's, so she's already had two scenes in the restaurant before he walks out. He should have been walking out. But he gets hot. He should have been walking out. And then the devil is doing the thing. And then we cut to her walking in the thing and she's like I'm supposed to meet someone at 8 pm and then he's in it.
Speaker 2Yeah, but his hands got hot, so that happened. Imagine your hands getting so hot that you can't cool them down, Dan.
Speaker 1She's already at the restaurant and he knows she's not supposed to be late.
Speaker 2She did. She emphasized that part quite a bit.
Speaker 1Yes, and he's immediately disregarding that.
Speaker 2For no reason. If there was a reason, well, he's Johnny Blaze.
Speaker 1Dan, you can't pin this guy down, yeah if he is back in his apartment and you know they cut and his hands are on fire and he's all like what is happening to me. I'm going to be late for my appointment.
Speaker 2I hope that's exactly how he played it too. Hands are on fire. What is happening to me? It's good.
Speaker 1It's good. So here's the devil and he's all like it's time you got to go find Blackheart, iceman, dude. And he's like, if you succeed, I'll return your soul, and then he goes full. So there's like a normal motorcycle that the devil brought with him.
Speaker 2Seems like it.
Speaker 1He goes Ghost Rider Not full Ghost Rider, because later he goes Ghost Rider again, and then little studs pop out Little spikies. Bonus. Things happen and then the bike turns from a normal bike into an incredibly silvered out no. Oh, really Devil motorcycle, I think the bike gets less cool. Yeah, I mean it's more. I don't know, it's very silly.
Speaker 2It's very silly. I don't know.
Speaker 1It's very silly, it's very silly, I don't know. And then the bad guys are looking for the graveyard, where the scroll should be, and there's a train car there. And I'm never able to figure out if that's outside of his apartment or not?
Speaker 2Oh, interesting. Yeah, I guess I have no idea. Now I do have some questions. Yes, because they said, like the devil can't go on hallowed ground for sure. But why can these fallen angels go on hallowed ground?
Speaker 1So then what happens is he rides off in full ghost rider form and just blows up the town just like cars are exploding.
Speaker 2He's destroying buildings. Everywhere things are exploding. He drives up a building, no, not yet 34 floors of glass that's later and down that's later.
Speaker 1I don't care, he doesn't care about anything this is a anything, but he does because it's not him, it's not Johnny Blaze, it's the ghost writer, I mean I get that.
Speaker 2But it's like, yes, but Because at some point he sees Eva Mendez and he's like that's my girl as a skeleton, and then he like it's a blurred Line as.
Speaker 1Rob Thicke would say but I love the idea that just everywhere the Ghost Rider goes, it destroys the street.
Speaker 2It blows up cars. Everything's being destroyed.
Speaker 1I'm like this works for me.
Speaker 2What.
Speaker 1It's so rude. Yeah, so he burns up the town. Then the bad guys are at this train and this dude, and they ask this dude that's working there where the graves went, and then he says they went to this other place and they kill him. And then he rides back and transforms and then he has to fight Sandman.
Speaker 2Well, that's a misnomer. Fight is not right.
Speaker 1But the whole idea is he drives away and then he goes back home and that's where they're waiting for him seemingly yeah, seemingly yeah for sure. So you want to talk about the big fight.
Speaker 2Oh, the big fight. Okay, so they're standing on the roof, and then he.
Speaker 1Wait, am I on the wrong one? You, I on the wrong one, you're on the wrong one. They run a, they run a truck into him and then he gets out, and then he gets a chain and then he right turns the chain and then spins, whips the chain around the dude and just kills him almost instantly and then you're right.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, you're right. I was on air, I was doing air.
Speaker 1I know the other three dudes just fuck off yeah, okay, oh yeah.
Speaker 2And this is the guy that asks for mercy. Yeah, one of our, one of our fallen angel evil guys is like have mercy before he kills him. That's dumb, he shouldn't, that should not happen. He should be like fuck you, ghost Rider, and then gets taken out have mercy. I almost vomited.
Speaker 1It was pretty good. So even Mendes still getting drunk waiting. He's riding the bike to get to his date and boom, there he sees like a bad guy stealing from a lady. Who's that lady that he's stealing from? It's Rebel.
Speaker 2Wilson. Did you recognize her? No, so we actually. I don't know how Naomi found that little tidbit at some point. She's like Rebel Wilson's in this movie, girl in alley. So then we kept our eyes open. We're like, well, that's girl in alley, right there. It does not look like her.
Speaker 1It has dark hair. I mean I knew I knew her from something I was like oh, I know that person and she's funny Like she has some funny lines. She's funny, she's a very funny person. Always has been Saves her. Then he's like looks at the dude and then he sees his whole history and then he's like you're guilty like you're guilty and then he kills him now, which is great.
Speaker 2Yeah, dan, is he a judge, jury, executioner? I don't understand. Okay, torment, how is that the spirit of vengeance he's?
Speaker 1I'm confused on his role he's avenging all the people that, uh, this dude was to, they were wronged. Okay, no, that was terrible to him. He was terrible too. The bad guy is terrible to people.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1He acts as a spirit of vengeance against people that have done bad things.
Speaker 2Okay, so he's like you're bad and I burn you up, yeah.
Speaker 1Okay, so like he'd come to me and he'd be like you're the greatest person ever, innocent.
Speaker 2Right, that's what he says to the kid in the jail cell.
Speaker 1Something like that. He'd burn you to death, Tony.
Speaker 2He would burn me.
Speaker 1But I'd have to look him in the eyes but I wouldn't Saves the lady. Then he falls off his bike and turns normal. He wakes up in a church and he drinks all the water, which I thought was very funny. There were three glasses of water. He drinks a glass of water and then just throws the glasses on the ground, yep, yep, okay. And then here comes the caretaker and Johnny Blaze where's my motorcycle? And he's all like by the shed. I'm like, okay, those are lines you can put in your movie.
Speaker 2I like that. I mean you can't, you don't need them, for sure they don't do anything, but I guess you could put them in there.
Speaker 1Yep, and he's like I picked out a spot for you. When you're dead, I'm like okay.
Speaker 2Which is fine. You know, I enjoy Sam Elliott.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's good. Next day there's some news. Roxy's figuring it out. He is the devil's bounty hunter. He will change at night. It's been 150 years since the last writer. He's got a fine black heart and the other fallen angels and then we get a great line. I feel much better now that I know I'm the devil's bounty hunter.
Speaker 2Why? Why would that make you feel better? That would make me feel better, would it? Dan? Yeah, would that give you some sort of relief?
Speaker 1You know, shannon was like we were supposed to shoot our last show on Monday but it was so hot. Shannon was like you can't go in the toy room, because it's too hot and you'll probably die.
Speaker 1And I was like, no, I just want to do my thing. And she's like, no, you must cancel. So I canceled. Then we did it on Wednesday and she's all like what is wrong with you? You know, I was like I just like to do the things. When I do them, you know, sure, sure, and it's not like I enjoy doing this, it's more just like I just want to get it over with. I saw you drink it. I got you with that one.
Speaker 2Oh, okay, dan, you know what. Fuck you. All right, we don't have to do this ever again. This could be the last one. You got it done, jesus.
Speaker 1But that's the thing with me. It's like I like to take care of my stuff. You know I don't like to push things back. If I don't have to, I mean I'll procrastinate about all sorts of stuff. But if a thing is on the calendar. I'm going to try and take care of it then. And there to be done.
Speaker 2That is a big difference between us. I love to push stuff down the road.
Speaker 1You know what I mean.
Speaker 2Like if it's coming up tomorrow and I'm like I'm definitely not in the mood, let's try to push it for a week. Maybe by then I'll be able to psych myself up to do it.
Speaker 1But you know. So, like if I was Johnny Blaze, I'd like to know the specifics of why I was turning into a skeleton.
Speaker 2I mean, I guess the specifics would be nice, but the reason is worse, because I think in his head at first he's like I think I'm going crazy, oh wait, no, I'm just a devil's bounty hunter. That he's like I think I'm going crazy, oh wait, no, I'm just a devil's bounty hunter.
Speaker 1That's so much better. Yeah, it is. You'd rather spend your life confused, not knowing what was going on, as opposed to perfectly understanding what is expected of you.
Speaker 2If those are my only two options, I guess I would take the truth, but I still wouldn't feel good about it. I'd be like well, at least I know. But it's pretty bad news, Sam Elliott, it's pretty bad the devil's.
Speaker 1Oh, it's Sam Elliott time. Yeah, yeah, he goes home. Sees all the destruction. Roxy's interviewing Rebel Wilson about being saved Some funny lines. Yeah, she says a couple of funny things and then Roxy's like I'm over you, you're the same, you're just a carny I'm getting in this van and driving away.
Speaker 2It's actually pretty harsh. That's a mean thing to say. She blows him up pretty hard.
Speaker 1Yeah, he goes into his apartment immediately, strips down naked and is looking in the mirror again.
Speaker 2And is jacked as fuck. He is full Wolverine.
Speaker 1Oh my.
Speaker 2God, dude, I did not see that coming. Good for you, nick. This must have been the same time he was running for Superman maybe, I don't know. Maybe, yeah, I don't know, but he is cut up.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's naked in the mirror. He gets out his books starting to do the research to try and figure things out, because we already set up that he always had research books laying around. He does his research by tearing the pages out of the books he owns, which is not what you do to books that you own.
Speaker 2Like if you were in the library, maybe, and you were like I need this page for later, I can understand you tearing it out. Just bookmark it, guy, it's your book. You have it forever. You can come back to it. You don't need to tear it out of your own book Now. You're going to lose it and then someday you're going to be like oh shit, what was that in that book? Oh, the page is gone. I can't believe I did that.
Speaker 1That's why you should always, you know, do your footnoting, do all those little things, do some notations. Yeah, you're going to be fine, it's your book. It's your book. He finds out the end of days is coming. He's the fire element. He sets his hand on fire and then Eva shows up to apologize. You really needed to have to have His hand on fire, and that's the bit of this scene Great.
Speaker 1I would love that we all know what the bit of this scene is instantaneously. That is, he's manifesting powers and she's there to have a serious conversation and at one point his head goes full. He's like Mom, okay.
Speaker 2Yeah, no, that'd be very fun. I still like this scene, though, dan. It's an okay scene, you know, because he's so playful with it. Yeah, like, because he's just being like very honest, hold on.
Speaker 1I skipped the most important part of the whole movie.
Speaker 2The whole movie.
Speaker 1Yes, what is it? Well, he was having this one day where he was in his apartment with Donald Logue for the first time, and we learn that he's obsessed with candy. He puts jelly beans in a martini glass and then acts like he's drinking them to put them in his mouth. He's obsessed with the carpenters. He's also obsessed with like monkey videos.
Speaker 2Yeah, now, all things that just are Nicolas Cage for sure, right, these are just like he's, like I want to put myself in this character a little bit, so I'm gonna like do these three things, things, and we need a five minute scene where I can discuss these things so people understand that I love them.
Speaker 1It was the best part of the movie.
Speaker 2It's adorable.
Speaker 1Okay. So he's doing his research. She shows up, she sees photos of them from the photo booth and then she kisses him and she's asking questions. She's like talk to me, talk to me, please talk to me. And then he tells her the truth.
Speaker 2And it's really funny. Like at one point he's like and then I just change Into what? Into a great big monster, like he says it so casually. It's a really nice scene. I really like Nick in this scene. The guy's great.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's fun and this is the kind of movie where you're like he's playful with the whole weird thing.
Speaker 2And you're like this is the right tone, right tone for this movie, yeah. And then most of the time it's like where did that go? Where is that?
Speaker 1The direction of this movie not great. Tone was pretty good. Eva's okay at times. He's fine At times when she's not completely lost the villains are not good. I don't love them. I'm going to say my problem with the movie.
Speaker 2What's your problem with the movie?
Speaker 1The soundtrack slash score. It's pretty bad. It just you know when he's riding the motorcycle and doing the fights you gotta drag us in there with the music.
Speaker 2You gotta rock us in there with the music, rocking and rolling.
Speaker 1They rock, but it just I don't know, it just didn't work.
Speaker 2Well, maybe because it's 2007, Dan, and you just don't feel the same way you did then, you know, I don't know. What does that mean? Like, maybe you like different music now. Maybe in 2007, this soundtrack was the best soundtrack in the world. Well, I mean, did you like it? Oh, I didn't like it at all.
Speaker 1Yeah it's terrible yeah it's pretty bad. Even you didn't like it, even me. What is that I have?
Speaker 2great musical taste. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1Sheesh Luis, sheesh Luis. So she's all like Johnny, I don't know what's up with you. I'm leaving, so she leaves.
Speaker 2Well, she said I can do one of two things. Oh yeah, can do one of two things. Oh yeah, I can either believe you and commit you or I can just assume that you're a bad guy and just leave. And I was like those are not your only two options you got a lot more options than that. You can just believe it and say like well, I'll help you fight the devil can't do that, that's not in it that's gotta be.
Speaker 1One of the three is like believe what you're saying and then help you fight the devil. That's number one.
Speaker 2Nope, not doing that one at all, yeah.
Speaker 1He goes outside, here comes 27 police guards. They arrest him because earlier the police had picked some clue up that I didn't know what it was it implicated him.
Speaker 2I don't think it did. Yeah, but I do do again. I love Nick in this scene. They like are coming at him.
Speaker 1He's just very like okay, yeah, no, that's fine, arrest me we do an interrogation, there's a guy smoking good cop, bad cop, doesn't go anywhere. Then they then so he's being like super cool. Then they're dragging him to a cell and then he's freaking out. He's all like he was super cool. Now he's like, don't do it. Then they're dragging him to a cell and then he's freaking out. He's all like he was super cool. Now he's like don't do it, don't do it.
Speaker 2Because he knows he's going to kill everybody. Yeah, so they put Because again, dan, I don't think they're as separate as you think they are, but I don't know.
Speaker 1They put him in one of those great cells that like is like in the middle of a big room. Yeah, like the Dark Knight cell.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's really stupid. Maybe they have that somewhere.
Speaker 1I don't believe it.
Speaker 2I always thought that that was more like the holding cell before you get booked, but I don't know for sure.
Speaker 1Yeah. So in there are all these bad guys, and the bad guys immediately.
Speaker 2First of all, if they're real bad guys and they saw Johnny Blaze, they would think he was the coolest guy ever so I have problems in general with that through this movie, because there's this scene where all these, all these rough and toughs would think he's the coolest guy in the world. And then there's there's a point where which we'll get to in a little bit where the manager is like did he get arrested? This is going to ruin his reputation.
Speaker 2And the answer to that is no. It's going to do the opposite. If the badass jumping over cars motorcycle guy gets arrested, that just ups his street cred. It's weird. They don't understand what a daredevil is or does. Which is weird, because this guy apparently also directed Daredevil. There it is, nailed it.
Speaker 1So he ends up fighting these guys, and he doesn't kill any of them, he just beats them all up.
Speaker 2Not all of them. He leaves the kid alone. There's one kid who's innocent and he points at him and says innocent. Then he falls over because he lost his mind. He passes out. Poor little guy.
Speaker 1Our bad guy goes to this church looking for the thing. He doesn't find it. We don't know why.
Speaker 2I don't know why he's at a church or in a church. Seems like he probably couldn't do that.
Speaker 1Ghost Rider melts the bars, leaves, gets on his motorcycle, drives away, driving through the city all hands on deck. He drives up a bridge.
Speaker 2All right, yeah, oh, that's right. Like up the arch part of the bridge.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's great stuff Everybody's like come down, come down, or we're going to shoot you. I think they all shoot him at one point, yeah, and then he jumps off the thing, drives down, goes into the river bubble, bubble, bubble. And then, when he starts accelerating, he comes up out of the water.
Speaker 2He's a jet ski. All of a sudden you love it. I don't even get it, loved it.
Speaker 1Loved it. That was one of my favorite parts of the movie.
Speaker 2Great Driving on the water.
Speaker 1I'm like, yeah, he's driving on the water. You're just jealous, I'm very jealous. And now here comes Smoke man. He's got to fight. Smoke man at night Drives up walls. Roxy sees him and is like, oh my god, it's true, he fights with a helicopter for no reason. Yeah, and then just the helicopter is like he's like leave. And the helicopter is like okay, I'm leaving.
Speaker 2No, no, no. He lassos it with his chain and like swings it away. And then they were like you're right, we should keep going. This is not for us.
Speaker 1Now, did you think he was going to kill Smoke Guy with the helicopter?
Speaker 2I didn't know where it was going and I was sufficiently disappointed.
Speaker 1How did he kill Smoke Guy?
Speaker 2Well, I still don't totally know. If I'm just being very clear with you, you should know exactly why it? Happened. So here's what happened. I'll just explain it to you step by step and you can tell me the science behind it, dan. So he takes his chain off and he whips him and the guy's like, haha, you can't hit me, I'm the wind. And then, and then there's like a pause Skull thinks and he's like, ah, I'll set it on fire and then create a vortex of fire and then you're dead. Yeah, what happens?
Speaker 1Weren't we talking about that stupid movie you like Twisters? What happens in the Twisters?
Speaker 2There's a sweet ass fire tornado, Tell you that that's dope. But how did that kill the guy? I mean, the sound effect is what sells it.
Speaker 1You know the fire, the cleansing fire of vengeance is going to kill anything eventually.
Speaker 2Oh, okay, yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, of course I can't. And then I guess that's going to be the answer for also the water guy later. It's just that you know, fire, fire, yeah, fire always wins. Fire doesn't kill water. Can I just tell everybody that, if it's Water kills fire, not if the fire's hot enough.
Speaker 1What happens when you say you take a piece of phosphorus?
Speaker 2Okay, now you think well, let me go get my phosphorus real quick and we'll do the experiment as we talk.
Speaker 1Dan. Yes, well, if you had some of the element phosphorus.
Speaker 2Was that pH?
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Speaker 1Yes, it doesn't matter, it's phosphorus ph. I don't know, maybe it is phosphorus. Uh, ignites at, just it'll just ignite, right, unless you, unless you have it in in a solution or something. But so phosphorus is burning. Don't want to put it on your hand, but if you had it in your hand it would be burning in your hand, and then if you drop phosphorus in the water.
Speaker 1Oh, you know what a flare is like when I'm stranded and I have to shoot a flare no, well, the other ones, like it's a red stick, like when I'm in a tunnel and I have to go yeah, okay, yeah, if you throw a flare into the water, it it still burns it does still burn.
Speaker 2You're absolutely right about that. Yeah, that's true. Is that? Is that phosphorus? Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1Okay, but this guy's not phosphorus no, his chain is phosphorus and the other, the guy's getting burned by it. Wait, wait, wait the water. The water doesn't win the water is made out of phosphorus. No, the flames, the flames win. God God damn it. Tony, you're testing me today.
Speaker 2Stop testing me. I don't understand this science. By the way, phosphorus, just a capital P on the periodic table. Oh, there it is.
Speaker 1Because pH is what is pH. It's something I do not know. I should know it's like aluminum or something, but it's not aluminum. It's something surprising something. But it's not aluminum, it's something surprising, okay. So then he drives down the thing. At one point when he's driving up he burns out a piece of the window where the guy was doing window cleaning.
Speaker 2The guy's doing window cleaning and there's a really great. This guy crushes it. By the way, A really nice moment where the guy's just looking up and down at the hole. It's really funny.
Speaker 1It's really nice yeah it's nice and that's the thing in this movie. There's some moments that you're like, okay, totally, and there's some weird stuff. There's long boring parts with the things you don't want to see but you're like okay, um, he goes down, all the cops shoot at him and then he makes a bunch of fire and drives out Then the other. I guess we're down to two other bad guys. They're standing there watching. They're all like, oh, roxy's his girlfriend and he's going to protect her.
Speaker 2He didn't do anything to protect her. The guy says oh, we found her weakness Because he loves that sound, Loves it Because he loves that sound, loves it.
Speaker 1So he goes back to see the caretaker at the graveyard and then he tells him the whole thing about how the 1,000 things happened, right, whatever.
Speaker 2Who cares. A lot of exposition.
Speaker 1Roxy goes looking for Johnny Blaze to his apartment, finds Mac Mac's there.
Speaker 2And he's all like you ruined Real quick.
Speaker 1We were on Easy Street until all like you ruined, but real quick. We were on Easy Street until broad light you came along, ruined everything.
Speaker 2And this is a scene where he's like he's been arrested and it's going to ruin his career. Nothing this guy says makes any sense, so she's all like here's my thing, Dan.
Speaker 1This is the next day, yes, the next day. Here's my thing, dan.
Speaker 2This is the next day. Yes, the next day, because Nick went to the graveyard and got the pep talk from Sam Elliott about the Thousand Souls. Drank some water, yeah, but she was like. Her. Only thing she did that day, as far as I know, is looked for him and she gets to his apartment at night. It took her 12 hours to figure out to go to his apartment.
Speaker 1Well, she probably had meals. According to who, she might have had me, she might have had a meeting it's just this.
Speaker 2This whole day is like a weird I don't know.
Speaker 1It just felt very jarring well, this is one of those movies where you're like okay, these next scenes have to take place at night. Well, that's when they're taking place.
Speaker 2Let's just skip a whole day where people should be doing a lot of stuff involved with these things, nope, so boom.
Speaker 1Donald Logue is like Mac is. His guy is like, well, he's got all these books on religion. Maybe if you look through those books you'd get some information. Just he's all like, okay, I'll do that. And boom, here comes. Iceman and he just kills Mac in like one second.
Speaker 2Which was very sad, very, very sad, like unceremonious death. It was tough, tough, to watch.
Speaker 1It was sad. Takes the girl. He's got Roxy now and she's like half dead.
Speaker 2He half freezes her.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't know what that was.
Speaker 2I don't get it.
Speaker 1The caretaker breaks his shovel open and there's the contract Dun-da-dun.
Speaker 2Oh, this is my favorite line in the movie. Yeah, so Nick goes and he captures his girlfriend.
Speaker 1So then, nick, goes back to the graveyard and Sam.
Speaker 2Elliott's just waiting for him. He looks at him and goes I figured you'd be back bonehead. Bonehead, because he's a skull, he's a skeleton, for whatever reason that cracked me up. That's it. That was like my favorite line of the whole movie Bonehead.
Speaker 1There it is. He's the original Ghost writer from 150 years ago with the contract, so they both get on now. Yeah damn tell me.
Speaker 2Well, how can there be more than one ghost writer?
Speaker 1because he's just got one transformation left in him okay, that doesn't make sense either.
Speaker 2I was gonna wait to bring that up for a while. There's one every generation. How is there two?
Speaker 1so they both get. He gets on the horse, johnny gets on his bike and they're like, let's ride. And then they they're riding out into the desert. This is the other best thing you know, we, we give the dan. Dan goodsell rules Don't hurt animals.
Speaker 2Oh my God, yeah, this is yes.
Speaker 1This is poor little lizard watching.
Speaker 2Just chilling. Just chilling in the desert in his home. They drive by all on fire and they cook him. He turns into a skeleton and falls apart. They cook his poor little bastard. And that's supposed to be cool, that's supposed to show how cool these guys are. They're just killing animals.
Speaker 1It was the funniest thing ever. You see this little skeleton. You're like, oh my God, can you imagine a guy got to animate that? He's like I get to do this.
Speaker 2You want me to do what? All right.
Speaker 1In Raising Arizona with the bad guy in the motorcycle. He burns up a lizard too that he rides by.
Speaker 2Oh, so it's a callback to his own movie. Nick was like we got to burn a lizard guys, we got to burn it. That was a Nick Cage movie, wasn't it? Raising Arizona is a Nick Cage movie.
Speaker 1Holy shit. Oh wow, I wonder if he called that.
Speaker 2He might have called that. That was my first thought when you said it was it because I haven't seen raising arizona in about 30 years. Uh, but yeah, must be. Must be one of those things, you know jelly beans in a cup burning up lizards.
Speaker 1Nick just likes to do nick so then he gives him a gun and he's all like, yep, now I'm just leaving right, okay, so let's get let's.
Speaker 2Let's break this down real quickly, dan. So Sam Elliott has been waiting for 150 years. Yes, as a caretaker, yes, a new ghost writer comes and he's like let's go get our revenge. Yes, but all he really wanted let's go get our revenge. Yes, but all he really wanted to do was go on a drive with his friend and then be like now I'm dead, I'm going out. Well, he had to show him where the town was.
Speaker 1He couldn't just point to it on a map? I mean, I don't know if the Ghost Rider could read maps. Maybe they just burn up when he touches them. You know, he's like holding the-.
Speaker 2It's right here, Ghost Rider. Oh, it's on fire. Let's get another map.
Speaker 1Get another map. Keeps turning the page on the Thomas guide.
Ghost Rider's Contractual Obligations
Speaker 2Oh shit, we got nothing left. Ghost Rider, I just and he's like I only had one ride left. I was saving it for this, and by this he just means nothing. He didn't do anything. He came and then he was like stay in the shadows, peace out, and he left and I assume he's dead. Is he dead? No, he went to heaven, so he is dead. People in heaven are dead. Dan, do I have to explain heaven and hell to you today? I, dan, do I have to explain heaven and hell to you today?
Speaker 1I guess they can come back sometimes though. It would really depend on what show you're watching, what lore you're into. So we see this little town sitting there right Right. And now Nick, the Ghost Rider in a swamp.
Speaker 2Right when, where? Because I thought they were in the desert. This is a swamp outside the desert because remember, when they killed a lizard, they were definitely driving through the desert and now there's like a six foot swamp. They're pretty much underwater.
Speaker 1I don't understand what's happening he gets attacked by the shark dude and then he burns him up to death.
Speaker 2Just boils him, just boils his water Like a hot dog Boils him up.
Speaker 1He gets there. There's the bad guy, iceman. He's all like if you change into the Ghost Rider, she dies.
Speaker 2Yep. And then Nick Cage outsmarts him and is like, hey, here's the souls, but let her go first Hold on.
Speaker 1He throws fireballs at him first. Then the sun starts to rise. He's out of time. Here come all the spirits.
Speaker 2Except for he's not out of time. Dan, I don't understand this.
Speaker 1Well, if he goes in a house, he can turn into the Ghost Rider.
Speaker 2Don't say that like it makes any sense.
Speaker 1Inside a house, ghost Rider Outside a house, not Ghost Rider During the day, just during the day.
Speaker 2Is it shade? Can he just change? So if he went under a big tree he could probably be Ghost Rider again.
Speaker 1If there was enough shade. Yeah, so stupid.
Speaker 2The thing says at night you be Ghost Rider again If there was enough shade. Yeah, so stupid. The thing says at night You're Ghost Rider. At night You're human. During the day the sun came up and he's like look at that little hole in the wall. I bet there's no sun in there. I could be Ghost Rider all day. Yep, doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1So then he goes into the church.
Speaker 2It's a melatonin thing.
Speaker 1Is that what you're trying to tell me, Dan? Yes, that's what it is. I think it's melatonin, but it could be a melatonin, melatonin.
Speaker 1Italian. So he goes into the church. He's trying to crawl to the shadow. They're fighting, all the ghosts are going in, all the spirits are going into Iceman. We learned earlier that Iceman doesn't have a soul so he couldn't be punished in vengeance. Right, all the souls go in it. And then Ghost Rider's like, or Johnny Blade's like throw me the gun. Roxy throws him the gun. He holds the gun in shadow. It turns into a Ghost Rider gun. Didn't see that coming? Well, of course you didn't, because it doesn't make any sense. Dan, yes, because it's just like his motorcycle. He ghost-rided it.
Speaker 2Well, sure, but he ghost-rides his jacket, it's daytime.
Speaker 1His hand is ghost-riding. He ghost-rides his hand.
Speaker 2Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1Couldn't he turn his hand into ghost-riding to make fireballs? Yes, I think so. Yes, yes, yes. He shoots him, then he reforms and then Ghost Rider walks over there and Ghost Rider's because he's fully in the Ghost Rider form, and then, since he has a thousand bad souls in him, he gets to kill him, which? Is very confusing. Why is it confusing?
Speaker 2They set up that he didn't have a soul.
Speaker 1Now he's got a thousand souls in him.
Speaker 2You can judge him a thousand times sure, but so you're saying that this is the first thousand souls that he's collected? He's never collected another soul before in his life, so he's at zero souls. Okay, just stay with me on the math here and now he has at zero souls. Okay, just stay with me on the math. Here and now he has 1,000 souls and he's going to be able to overpower the devil.
Speaker 1Well, I would assume when you take up the souls right, you eventually are going to get their power. It's like food right. When you eat a food, say you're eating a food.
Speaker 2Okay, I'm eating a food Reese's peanut butter cups.
Speaker 1What do you get when you eat a food? Tummy ache, tony. Don't be, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to make a joke. You get a tummy ache when you eat food. Yeah, it's super funny, tony.
Speaker 2What do you do? You get nutrients oh, I get nutrients. Is that what you want to hear? And you get energy. I don't know if I get energy.
Speaker 1You get energy to get through the day right. Sure, so he's gaining an energy right.
Speaker 2Sure.
Speaker 1Then I'm sure his body's going to process the souls and he's going to poop out their-.
Speaker 2The soul part of them, but keep the energy. Yes, exactly, but my thing is, if he's-.
Speaker 1I worked it out.
Speaker 2You didn't work it out, because he has a thousand souls and now he thinks he's going to take over the world. Yeah, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1Well, or a small village or cul-de-sac.
Speaker 2So you're saying this is just the first step? Yes, he's got a lot of steps to go Built out, but this is the first of many.
Speaker 1And there it is, and that means he won. He goes back and there's Mephistopheles and he's all like you did good, kid, I'm going to take the power back. And he's like, oh no, I'm going to own this curse and use it against you. You will pay.
Speaker 2Now here's a question. Tan Yep, mephistopheles gave him the curse yes, and he was about to take the curse back. Yes, he was, and Nick said no.
Speaker 1He said no.
Speaker 2Couldn't he just take it?
Speaker 1Well, it's a contract you gotta.
Speaker 2You know both parties gotta, but the contract's null and void. The contract's completed right?
Speaker 1well, not until you sign off on it that's not how.
Speaker 2You don't have to sign a contract twice once when it starts, once when it ends. That's's not how contracts work. I sign a contract, the contract was completed and now it's done.
Speaker 1Yeah, but then you have to initial to take possession. Right, you have to initial, like, if the contract is, I'm going to pay you $500,. Right, you do something. You debased yourself in some way, like you do, like professional wrestling, which is not a real thing. So you've debased yourself in front of an audience and you're all like Sure, you're like at the end of the day you're like you owe me $500.
Speaker 1I put $500 on the table and what do you do? You sign on the dotted line to admit that you took the $500. You have to finish the deal.
Speaker 2Well, I wouldn't sign it again, I would just take the $500.
Speaker 1No, but he's like, if you want this $500, he's got it held back. Your sweaty hands, he's not letting you do sweaty hands all over the money. No, and then he's not like, well, sign there, and then I'm going to give you this $500. That's it, I'm going to give you this $500.
Speaker 2That's it. I'm just saying. It seems like the devil could probably take back the curse. The guy's got the power to do it and if you're going to fight him, you literally told him your whole plan. You're like no, I'm going to keep the curse and I'm going to fight you If I was dead. We're like nah, nah, dude Done You're out.
Speaker 1You just don't understand how the devil works.
Speaker 2You're right about that so.
Speaker 1Roxy's like when will you go? What will you do? And he's like I'm gonna go wherever the world Takes me. This is my second chance.
Speaker 2And apparently it's Eastern Europe. Oh, eastern Europe. That's where the sequel takes place that we're gonna watch at some point, dan.
Speaker 1They actually go to Eastern Europe. That's what the little description said.
Speaker 2I mean, that's what the little description said. They shoot there, or that's where it actually occurs. No, that's where the description of the movie is like hiding out in Eastern Europe or something.
Speaker 1Oh okay, so it is Okay, that's good, and then you can shoot in Bulgaria and think about all the tax breaks it's great, there you go.
Speaker 2I love tax breaks.
Speaker 1So they do a kiss by the tree of love. And then Sam, what's his name?
Speaker 2The legends continue, but isn't he dead? Isn't he gone? He's a ghost. He's doing ghost narration. I'm so confused on him.
Speaker 1And that's the Ghost Rider 2. So there were a couple of good scenes. I thought the Ghost Rider look was fine, kind of fun. Could everything have been done better? Of course it could have been done better, it wasn't terrible.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean those aspects weren't terrible. The movie it's not great. I'm pulling a Tony yeah, you are, because this movie is not great Dan. There's a lot of things that don't make any sense, but in my mind now that I'm past it.
Speaker 1I will think back fondly of this movie. I'll think back fondly.
Speaker 2I'll never watch this movie again, I won't. I'm not angry at the director.
Speaker 1I'm angry at the person that scored it.
Speaker 2I'd have some words for that, I'd be like no, no bro. Is that? Those are your words? Those are my words. I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed. Okay, no, not great sir.
Speaker 1Yeah, and who scored this? John Williams? No, he didn't. No, he didn't score Okay.
Speaker 2I was like wait a second.
Speaker 1That can't be right. That's like a real guy. Do you know who John Williams is?
Speaker 2He does scores, and stuff.
Speaker 1Do you not know what John Williams scores?
Speaker 2Was he the Star Wars guy? Yeah thank God, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going to try and see if I can look up On IMDB who did the score for this. Yeah, you should All cast and crew Writing cast this. Yeah, you should all cast and crew something you writing cast produce music by christopher young.
Speaker 1Oh, old news that christopher young oh dude, he's so cool.
Speaker 2He's got like sunglasses and a top hat. He's pretty cool. He did swordfish swordfish.
Speaker 1The score I don't remember being terrible, no.
Speaker 2That was one of his bangers. Oh god, that's good stuff.
Speaker 1Anything else to say about Ghost Rider 2007?
Speaker 2I'm excited to see the second one.
Speaker 1It's supposed to be much worse.
Speaker 2I can't imagine, so very excited.
Speaker 1Now we talk about something we like this week. Tony, what did you like this week?
Speaker 2Only Murders in the Building has started. It's Third, fourth. Fourth, I think the fourth season.
Speaker 1I don't know. It's a new season, for sure.
Speaker 2I think this is the best start to a season They've done. I always feel like the first two episodes of their seasons are very slow. Oh, todd's, but I feel like this has really come out swinging. It's really funny and, you know, I think they're all really hitting their stride.
Speaker 1So I'm really enjoying it. Todd's very happy. He wants me to talk about it, but we never finished the third season, so I've got to finish the third season.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean it's fine, you know, but again, I think this one's really good, dan, I think just skip it, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1Skip the third season, just go right into four. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2Yeah, you might have to watch the last episode of the third one, because it sets up the mystery for this season.
Speaker 1Maybe we'll do that.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Other than that, you're good. Well, we started a new Taskmaster season I don't know, 1921.
Speaker 250,000.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's fun. You know, I don't think it's going to be a season for the ages like some of the other seasons, but you know, it's fine Holding its own at least.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's good Taskmaster.
Speaker 1They know what they're doing. Tony we need another movie.
Speaker 2We need another movie, give us another movie and I apologize because I'm going to interrupt the Halloween flow a little bit and then the next week we'll get back into it hardcore. But we're going new, new because a wonderful new movie just dropped and I think it's going to be a real banger. It's based on a wonderful new movie just dropped and it's I think it's going to be a real banger. It's based on a wonderful video game and it's, of course, called Borderlands. Can you watch that? Yeah, yeah, it's on Mavoodus. Oh, okay, good, I'm sorry, fandango at Home I keep misrepresenting. They're never going to sponsor us, dan, if I keep saying the wrong thing.
Speaker 1I mean, this has what's her name in it Greenblatt, who we love, sure ariana?
Speaker 2greenblatt. Who's just what were you hoping for? Your fingers are crossed and then you seem disappointed. What were you hoping? Not going to tell you?
Speaker 1okay, all right, there's more movies out there that are new.
Speaker 2I mean there are. There's a couple ones that came out and I was like, wow, we have an embarrassment of riches right now.
Speaker 1We're not going to be getting them until after Halloween. That's true, we've got some time there was one that just dropped and I started watching, like you know, the first five minutes of like blah blah blah, blah, blah, blah blah, blah. This is how things work and I was just like no.
Speaker 2I was like is this a?
Speaker 1series and I'm like no hour and 42 minutes. Oh my God.
Speaker 2They're talking, it's so terrible. Well, I'm excited to see what that is.
Speaker 1Borderlands yeah, if I had heard good things about it I would have maybe gone see it in the theater, but I've heard so many bad things about it.
Speaker 2Okay, I thought you were saying you heard good things about it and I was like what I haven't heard one good thing no one's heard good things about this movie.
Speaker 1Very excited.
Speaker 2Did they?
Speaker 1put this movie on the shelf for two or three years.
Speaker 2Oh, did they.
Speaker 1I haven't done any research, oh yeah this movie is on the shelf for like two or three years, I mean.
Speaker 2Eli Roth. Has he done any good movies?
Speaker 1Yeah, he was in Quentin Tarantino's Inglourious Bastards.
Speaker 2So still no.
Speaker 1He hasn't made it.
Speaker 2I mean, he hasn't created anybody, he's been in it. You know I've never seen Inglourious Bastards. You've never seen it. I don't enjoy Tarantino and I fell off before that movie came out.
Speaker 1There's some scenes in there that are absolutely worth watching, and I mean it made christopher, got christopher waltz all the terrible jobs that he did after that sure, so yeah you know. So you know it worked. It's magic. What was the one? Oh, there's like the weird one where he like goes in there and he's trying to fix a company. I think it might have been a series. I had to turn it off, fix a company. Okay, yeah, he's like he's a series, I had to turn it off, fix a company.
Speaker 2Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1He's kind of like the devil and he comes in there and has a briefcase and it was what.
Speaker 2Well, you better find that I'm intrigued. I did not make it through that one.
Speaker 1I know Shannon's always like why are you watching all this stuff? I'm like because I got to see everything.
Speaker 2Why are you watching all this stuff? I'm like because I got to see everything I have to see as much as I possibly can.
Speaker 1There's some truth to that. I get it Just on a side tangent. Tig Notaro has this weird YouTube show where she has celebrities on and she has no idea who they are because she doesn't pay any attention to pop culture. What so? She doesn't watch any attention to pop culture, so she doesn't watch any pretty much any tv or movies, and so she the two episodes.
Speaker 2It's not a good show, it's a very under a rock with tig notaro it's a very very bad show and they canceled it after two seasons rightly so.
Speaker 1Okay, I'm sponsored by alexa because she has alexa on it okay, great, but great, but she so like the two I watched she had kelly kukoc from big bang theory, and then lena heaney lena heaney from game of thrones huge, huge stars did not know who they were.
Speaker 2Nothing, okay, I'm like that's pretty interesting. That is interesting.
Speaker 1I'm gonna watch some of it watch a couple sadly the the way they do it. It's not funny. Um, it's just how how they do it.
Speaker 2It's it's like only six minutes long and so she doesn't really even interview the people and we don't really it's it's kind of like a guessing game sort of, but not in a good way oh, all right, yeah, yeah, the concept was interesting, and now this is you're making it worse yeah, the concept is is is fine, she should just have a discussion with them and then it should sort of come out over the process of the discussion um hold on. One of the description is in this episode, notaro tries to recognize james vanderbeek. I'm sorry, I can't.
Speaker 2I can't watch this okay if you don't know, james vanderbeek, you shouldn't even be alive yeah, but yeah, that's.
Speaker 1It's weird, I love that guy, love that guy, and it's not like a mental thing, it's just that she just doesn't.
Speaker 2You know, yeah, know, yeah she just doesn't give a shit. She doesn't give a shit.
Speaker 1I mean we were looking at, like all the people that were at the VMAs or whatever, and I'm just like I don't know any of these people.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean that's fair. Did Katy Perry perform? I feel like I heard Katy Perry, but not good.
Speaker 1I don't know, Did you watch the new video? Oh man, no, Because we, for some reason, we started talking about her. Oh, because she put out the new video and the new thing and everybody was just like uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh.
Speaker 2Interesting. Okay, I was talking to you.
Speaker 1You should watch the big video, okay, and you're just like what the fuck is, you know, because it's like this is my feminist anthem and it is like the most male gaze thing that you've ever seen, and it's just like she looks weird. Oh, no, okay, but the problem is she was like the young performer for so long and now everyone are like these 22-year-olds that are like whoa, okay, very attractive.
Speaker 1There are many very attractive people in music right now, and she's not one of them, but she's wearing the clothes like she's one of them and you're just like, of course I mean not that her body is terrible or anything, but you're just like. You're in competition with all these other sure people that are like. You know, all these other people that are like you know All these other people.
Speaker 1Yeah, because that's what you need to do. You need to find someone incredibly hot and then you just process their vocals and boom whatever I wish someone would process my vocals.
Speaker 2Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1Yours, yeah, no, I got it, I figured Perfect. Yeah, you sound great, great. Here's a question for you tony, okay, lay it on me have you been doing enough stuff over the years that when you hear your voice, you hear your voice and you do not hear a different voice?
Speaker 2I think I understand your question and, yeah, yeah, I've heard my voice and seen my image enough on screen that I I know what I sound like and it's not great. I'm kidding, I love it. I listen to our own podcast because I love my voice so much, dan.
Speaker 1I always like listening to our own podcast, because I listen to it and I'm like, oh, now I'm gonna. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's the joke. I would tell I'd tell that joke again. You know like I make all the right joke choices.
Speaker 2You know I don't like I don't listen to go like, oh man, you shouldn't have gotten there.
Speaker 1I'm like yep, swing and a miss dan twing and a miss solid dan goodsell.
Speaker 2I'm like yeah, because you listen to yourself idiot yeah, I'm batting a thousand on this, on this podcast too, so I get it, dan, I get it okay.
Speaker 1Well, we'll be back next week watching some movie oh borderlands borderlands. Little kevin hard and jack black doing poop jokes. Jamie lee curtis I. I love the robot design. The robot design looks great I don't know. All right, I think I'm gonna like this movie.
Speaker 2I I'm okay, something to look forward to dan I'm inclined to like this movie.
Speaker 1I mean, they're gonna have to work pretty hard to make me not like it I think they're gonna work just hard enough.
Speaker 2I really do but, I'm excited to find out.
Speaker 1I think we might have ghostwriter as a winner and borderlands as a winner two winners before we go into halloween for dan goodsell, I've got some absolute shit to do for halloween.
Speaker 2So should be good should be good.
Speaker 1Okay, so we'll be back then. Uh, give us a comment, leave the thumbs up, even subscribe if you're so inclined, great job. I was watching something and they were like there was like some terrible person and they were, they were dragging this person. They were all like, look at your videos. They only get like 25 views. You're a worthless piece of garbage and I'm like we do a lot of work to get that. You have to be happy with it.
Speaker 2Well, you don't have to be happy with it. You have to live with it. You have to live with it.
Speaker 1It's like this world is. There's a lot, You're competing with everything now.
Speaker 2So true yeah, and we're losing. We have lost.
Speaker 1So we'll be back with some Borderlands next week.
Speaker 2Goodbye everybody with Dan and Tony. Hey, watch it with Dan and Tony. It's like watching yeah.