Hate Watching with Dan and Tony
Hate Watching with Dan and Tony
Hate Watching Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd
Have you ever wondered what happens when a sequel tries too hard to replicate its predecessor's magic? Join us as we explore the curious case of "Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd" and dissect what went wrong in this prequel to a beloved comedy classic. Tony kicks off with the fascinating story behind why he chose this movie, setting the stage for a deep dive into the film's casting choices, including Eric Christian Olsen's valiant yet hollow attempt at emulating Jim Carrey’s iconic character. We touch on the emotional beats that went missing and the pivotal creative decisions, such as the Farrelly Brothers’ refusal to participate and the film landing in the hands of the "Jack Frost" director.
We scrutinize some of the film's most absurd plot points, like Eugene Levy and Sherry Oteri’s cartoonish villainy and their impractical school scam. Laugh with us as we recount the peculiar dinner at Harry's mom's house and the chaotic construction of a George Washington float, while lamenting the lack of grounded reality and coherent narrative that made the original so successful. From unnecessary birth scenes to awkward makeout sessions with jet packs, we critique the film’s inconsistent comedic attempts and disjointed scenes, all while reflecting on broader comedic themes and the challenges of engaging an audience.
To top it off, we highlight the talents of performers like Martin Short and recommend some alternatives, including Eric Christian Olsen's "Fired Up." Stay tuned for our musings on DVD digitization and a sneak peek into our upcoming 200th milestone episode featuring the infamous Garbage Pail Kids movie. Whether you’re a die-hard fan or a casual viewer, this episode promises to give you an entertaining and critical perspective on a comedy that missed its mark.
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Speaker 2:I have not watched the commercial. I saw the hubbub about it, but I haven't gotten a chance to actually see the commercial. Is it really good?
Speaker 1:This kid Stop it.
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Speaker 1:Then I mean it's not as terrible as it could be, but it's a lateral move from Polar Express.
Speaker 2:So that's not great. That was a long time ago, dan. I hate watching With Dan and Tony. It's like watching yeah, welcome to.
Speaker 1:I Hate Watching with Dan and Tony. I'm back to being Dan.
Speaker 2:I'm Tony, as per usual.
Speaker 1:And on this show we watch a movie. This week was Tony's week to pick the movie. Well, we don't actually have had to watch the movie and then we talk about it Each week on the show. Well, we don't actually have had watched the movie and then we talk about each week on the show.
Speaker 2:we talk about a movie that we've hopefully watched. This is good. Yeah, this is going well.
Speaker 1:I'm feeling real confident I'm assuming tony's watched the movie because I've watched the movie. We we had a consensus. Well, we didn't have a consensus. Tony chose this movie. Tony, why don't you tell us a little something about the movie you chose for us?
Speaker 2:I don't even remember why I chose it. I feel like I had some sort of Kevin Bacon fifth degree thing that I ended up doing to get to this movie. I don't remember, but we were watching a prequel to one of the better comedies ever made, and of course it's called Dumb and Dumber-er when Harry Met Lalloyd Lalloyd comedies ever made and of course it's called dumb and dumber er when harry met laloid laloid, or is just lloyd?
Speaker 2:no, it's just lloyd. I was trying to do a joke because in the in the movie you just watched, dan, uh, lloyd christmas is reading harry's name. He goes harry and like pronounces both r's and you know what. Let's scrap it. I'll edit out later.
Speaker 1:That was one of the better jokes in the movie actually.
Speaker 2:And then you didn't like it when I did the same joke on the podcast. That doesn't make any sense, Dan.
Speaker 1:God. Well, because you're not Lloyd.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not Lloyd See.
Speaker 1:Come on 2003,. A sweet hour and 25 minutes. Back in 2003, when they knew how long to make a movie like this.
Speaker 2:Amen In and out and under 90. I mean that should be a golden rule for comedy.
Speaker 1:Now in Dumb and Dumber 2,. Was that the original cast?
Speaker 2:It was indeed. Yeah, yeah, and that's 2003,. Somewhere in the 2010s I can't remember when it came out oh, so that came out.
Speaker 1:Third, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Dumb and dumber 2014 yeah. So this came out in my formative years of 2003, when I was a ripe 18 years old. And then dumb and dumber 2 came back around a decade later, when, when the old men were like yeah, we'll do it again now, did you see the third one? I did. Yeah, I saw it in theaters and then I watched, uh, about 30 minutes this morning before I had to turn it off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just out of you had to turn it off.
Speaker 2:It's not very good so, and here's, here's the way I look at it yeah dumb and dumber. Er, what we watched, yeah, is not a great prequel to dumb and dumber. However, I do think it's a pretty good prequel for dumb and dumber too, and the reason I say that is because the characters Lloyd and Harry are vastly different in Dumb and Dumber and Dumb and Dumber 2. Really Like in Dumb and Dumber yes, they're dumb, they're silly, but they are still grounded.
Speaker 1:They're still like emotional beats in Dumb and.
Speaker 2:Dumber and then the other two movies. There's no emotional beats, they're just caricatures of those characters. Yeah, and I think a lot of people, when this movie came out, the four or five people that saw it with me they all felt the same, which was like these are shallow caricatures of those characters. They're like good impressions, right the one guy's really good.
Speaker 1:The one guy's impression is really good eric christian olsen right of lloyd.
Speaker 2:It's really, please, really, he fucking crushes it. However, I my my it's a wonderful jim carrey impression, yes, but it never gets deeper than that, and that's my only complaint you don't want to watch an hour and 25 minute impression of a person. No, no, but it's a really, really good impression. Like it's, unbelievable, I. I mean, I think they cast him perfectly, yeah, but there needs to be another layer to it if you're doing a full movie of it well, you need a real script well, sure, yeah, it would help.
Speaker 2:Sure, I mean listen um, did you do any research on this? A little bit so I mean, they asked the fairly brothers and they were like no, we're not, we're not doing a prequel, like if the if jim and daniel aren't jeff daniels aren't involved, we're not doing it. So they didn't do it. And then they were trying to get the south park guys to do it and then they bailed at some point and so then they just got this guy who I don't really know this guy's done all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1:Well, he has. Yeah, I didn't really he did jack frost for this. The, the keaton keaton snowman movie. Yeah, so that'll. That'll give you an idea of where you know it's that where he's at. It's that sort of ski camp comedy, you know where it's just sort of like we're these people that are sort of in a situation and and everybody sort of does stuff and it's all you know. It's, you can play in a drive-in, you know.
Speaker 1:It's like oh sure we drove to the drive-in and we watched this and we drove away, but by 2003 that that that was ending, you know yeah, it was, unfortunately you could.
Speaker 1:I love a good driving yeah, but you can't, you couldn't make that kind of movie anymore. And um, the this guy, the one. The one interesting thing is that I was reading the whole thing and they the movie cost them I don't know 20, 20 million or something, and then it made 39 million here and internationally. Then I went to the dunes dunes page and he's like it was a modest success doing 80 million combined, us and international twice the number.
Speaker 2:He doubled the number, so so he's lying. I don't know man. I mean Dan. Listen, we all lie on our resumes, right? I mean good for him.
Speaker 1:His Wikipedia definitely felt like he was keeping it. Someone very close to him was keeping a good eye on it and making sure it was saying things, but he's worked with tons and tons of people and done a lot of comedy concert movies and with a lot of real people. A lot of real, real, real people, but not as many movies.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, he did Kathy Griffin's movie and lots and lots of people, people trust him to lens their thing and you know kind of get up there. But uh, this movie doesn't really understand the comedy or the heart of of what you have to have in a movie and I mean those are like the two biggest ingredients of the movie.
Speaker 2:Like the balance between the silly, wacky and the grounded emotional beats is what makes dumb and dumber so great, like the first.
Speaker 2:The scene where in this movie, where lloyd is like crying at the window when they're breaking up, sure is so cartoony, like it's so cartoony the way that they're playing this like breakup, and then you look at something like Dumber Dumber, which I also watched this week, just you know for reference. And there's like some very grounded scenes where Jim Carrey's not even putting on a voice you know what I mean like he's not doing a voice, he's, he's got some real emotional beats to him and the scene in the beginning before they go on the road trip, and he's he's got some real emotional beats to him. And the scene in the beginning before they go on the road trip, and he's like you know what I'm sick of? I'm sick of being a nobody and I'm sick of having nobody. Whatever he says in that moment, like it's a very real human moment and we're like, oh shit, these are real guys that just happen to be a little loony, and that's the difference.
Speaker 1:You know these two characters in this movie. Just live in this alternate universe, where where nothing effect nothing affects them a hundred percent even their own relationship is unaffected.
Speaker 1:So they, they can't be injured by the world. You know, even when the the girls, when he thinks that the lloyd is getting the girl, you don't ever even believe that. No, um, I mean a little bit of the turn where he's all like. You know where he's like oh, we're friends again. You know that had a small amount of emotion to it, but you know the things that really have to mean something, which is these guys both caring about each other and understanding that they're out of sync with the world. You know.
Speaker 1:Yeah that they're out of sync with the world.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, but these these girls, these these guys are just cartoons, that sort of bounce around and are unaffected which is interesting because there was a cartoon made of dumb and dumber and I feel like I never watched it. I wish I would have watched it now because I bet the the vibe of the cartoon and this prequel actually probably match up pretty well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, like they're wanting to be with with girls that you don't even believe it, you don't, you don't like.
Speaker 2:A hundred percent, as opposed to the. The moment where Lloyd meets the girl in the first one Can't remember her name, I feel bad, sally, I don't know, I made that up. Uh, she like opens the door, his mouth drops, he can't talk, she shuts the door and then he does this like very goofy thing where he like grabs his heart and he goes, oh, you know, and like but you, but you're there, you're like oh boy, this guy, you know, like there's human moments within the zany world that ground these guys and that's what this, this is missing in, just like a general for these two characters.
Speaker 1:And the real people, like the girl, the blonde Jessica, like she'll like manipulate them and then just be and say things to them that a girl like that knows she could never say to people like them, yes, unless she was wanting to manipulate them, which you know. A girl that is that attractive is going to understand what her saying things to people mean. Yeah, and she like says stuff and there's, you know, innuendo and entendre, double entendres and things and just everyone's just like I'm just following my path.
Speaker 1:That has no relationship to you standing there as a human being in it and existing, and so so you never get invested in anything in this movie yeah, but having said that, I do laugh.
Speaker 2:Oh, there are some. There are some bits that I enjoyed. You know, there it is. You know, some pure laugh, you didn't. You didn't laugh one time, dan, I think it has. I think there were three or four things, which is 90 minutes.
Speaker 1:That's not that bad okay, you know, in addition to like whatever that was, one was you brought up earlier where I was like oh, that was a good, you know where you, where you couldn't acknowledge that the joke was was a fine joke, sure yeah, you know, I'm sure, I'm sure if you went through this whole thing and you said well, if you put this joke in a good movie, you would get it'll work.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I mean 100, yeah, you know it's that that whole thing is. You know, when you're, when you're working to a cold room, getting those first laughs is very hard and it's hard to get that back.
Speaker 2:yeah, if you've already lost the audience, you're in trouble. Yeah, we have to be on board from minute one with a movie like this.
Speaker 1:And unfortunately we have a birth at the beginning, a baby being born in 1969.
Speaker 2:Why, like, why, why? I don't understand why this is in the movie. Couldn't begin to tell you. And then, and then he's like in the mom pulling the baby out, which is just a weird thing. He yells he bit me, what? And then he sucks on the finger. That was in. It's just why. That's all I'm gonna. I don't, I don't understand. It's not needed for the story doesn't tell you anything. It's just like a stupid bit that someone's like. What, if no?
Speaker 1:we don't need it, and it immediately sets up one character as opposed to the second character, right yeah, I don't know how the, the first one started. But the movie is not about two characters, it's about it's about these two characters together, right that's, that's your movie, your movie's not about how this one guy is, this the star, and then he meets the other guy. That's not what it's about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, they do so in the original. They do a nice ping pong in the first because they're both at their day jobs, and so you get to see them both basically get fired from their jobs and then meet back home and talk to each other. See them both basically get fired from their jobs and then meet back home and talk to each other about how they've been fired from their jobs like that's how the first movie starts that's how you're supposed to do it you're supposed to have.
Speaker 1:I mean the beginning of this movie should be the two of them going to school for the first, for the first day yes, which happens? Pretty soon yes, but not soon enough but instead we have this birth and then we have an eight years later, with some cops and his imaginary friend being trapped in a well.
Speaker 2:It's not a real well.
Speaker 1:What's with the imaginary friend?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I still don't know. I guess, just so they can make the pirate joke later, is that kind of it. Is that the whole thing?
Speaker 1:I don't I the imaginary friend thing. You know, like in a real movie. You know when you're, when you're old like dan goodsell, I forget things instantly, right, you know? Sure yeah, when you do your callback, I'll be ready for it. I mean not ready for it, but I'll, I'll, I'll react to it and I'll be like oh, I see that ties way back there.
Speaker 1:But if if you bring up captain ron a bunch of times and then he's not in the last 20 minutes of the movie, I don't go. Where's captain ron? Uh, uh. Afterwards I'll be like that what was wait? A second hold the phone yeah, and so, like you're, it feels like there's this is your second scene and you're setting up an important thing that never, never means anything to the movie.
Speaker 2:Well, it what it means to me, and I don't want to disparage people, but what it means to me is like he's got a screw loose, right, okay, and not because kids can't have imaginary friends, you know, I'm okay with it, like I'll buy that, but he is 18 years old when they go to high school and he still has the imaginary friend yeah that's not great right, I mean I, I think you're you're reading a little too much the idea that you know I don't know, am I I'll?
Speaker 2:I'll allow it. I will listen. If that's what you think, that I'll allow it, I will listen. If that's what you think, then I'll allow it. But that just feels a little weird.
Speaker 1:So Harry is starting school. There's his mom. His mom has homeschooled him. They gave some sort of explanation I don't know what it was, and now she's sending him to school. She's a really good teacher. That's what I heard oh is that what she said At?
Speaker 2:some point he says that I don't remember exactly what happened, but this is the first scene of the movie.
Speaker 1:And why?
Speaker 2:is he going to school now? I have no idea. I don't know. He's also been, which is confusing. He's been held back for three years, so he is 18 years old, but he's going into like sophomore year or something like his first year of high school or something like that. Right, okay, I know it's very confusing, so the the time is confusing in this because the movie takes place and they tell us this many, many, many times 1986 I did.
Speaker 1:I did not realize that until about a third of the way into the movie. This took place in the 80s oh, okay, I mean they. There's signs everywhere they held up a sign at one point and I was like yeah, at one point.
Speaker 2:They're like class of 1986, like they're very clear about it. Why that's confusing is because some of the things that they, uh, they do and see are not even made yet. Oh really, the biggest example of that is coming up in Lloyd's first scene, where he dances to Vanilla, ice, ice, ice Baby, a song that was recorded in 1989 and released in 1990. That's confusing. Released in 1990. That's confusing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the soundtrack of this movie. They use a bunch of good songs and you're like, oh okay.
Speaker 2:Little Good Charlotte is in there, which is great. And let me be clear, I don't have a problem with Good Charlotte being part of the soundtrack, right, but he puts on a record in the next scene. He puts on a record and that record, he puts on a record, and that record is playing vanilla ice, Sure Ice, ice baby, which hasn't been made yet. So that's I don't understand. And then you make it very clear that this movie is 1986. So it's just what are we doing? Well, we got to pay a little more attention to those things.
Speaker 1:So mom gives him a treasure map to get him to school and I assume the treasure map is just a map to how to get to school. But he has to give it to him 100%.
Speaker 1:It's just so he can walk to school, so he can walk to school, lloyd, who lives at the school, with his dad, luis Guzman, um, giving him the bowl cut. He's a janitor's son. Yeah, isaiah's baby. Um, he does a bunch of stuff. He does a dance, he gets covered in napkins which he blows off with the fan. I mean, yeah, it's very weird okay it was weird. Okay, it's funny um yeah, I mean listen.
Speaker 2:So, like this being ll's intro, I don't hate Right, like it's quirky, he's having fun. It establishes that he lives at the school, which is an interesting dynamic we never play with, but it could have been a source of a lot of fun, I think, but we didn't do it. But at least he's doing something silly and fun. The Harry intro is just weird from beginning to end there, like that whole segment is weird. So I think they needed something better for harry and then have these to be the first two scenes and then it would have been a much better intro to the movie well, they, they, they should have done something with the mom.
Speaker 1:The mom was was your your key, right? Why, yeah, is he homeschooled and why the mom's not weird at all, like if the mom was like creepy 10 times, yeah, 10 times more interesting. And I also think at one point lloyd thinks that the mom is hitting on him or something, and it's like that should be, that should be. A big part of this whole thing is is a romance between the two of them and some, you know, because you think back on siffler's mom and all that stuff, that stuff, everyone remembers that stuff, right, you know, and everybody thinks about that and that was funny and it was weird and it was inappropriate.
Speaker 2:It's like this movie like but awesome at the same time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this movie doesn't go anywhere near inappropriate, except a couple times when it goes inappropriate and you want to kill yourself.
Speaker 2:Well, the hot tub daydream where the mom and Jessica kiss, that's a fun little moment. That was interesting. You were like oh wow, that's a fun little moment.
Speaker 1:That was interesting, you were like, oh wow, you kind of understand where this should be and you're doing a little thing, but you never really go there.
Speaker 2:And it's interesting. Did you see Dumb and Dumber 2? Did you see that ever? I don't think so. Okay, well, not to spoil too much, so I'll just lay it, you know, bare bones. Harry finds out he has a daughter. Lloyd falls in love with the daughter. Exactly so like it's. It's exactly, but the opposite it's which is interesting, yeah, so I mean, but it's still. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 1:It's uncomfortable that's where you want us to be. You want us to be uncomfortable. You want us to be like oh, oh, no, no, no, no what are we doing? Oh god, oh god, but I'm here for it yeah, um, he does this whole bit where he's gotta go catch the bus to come to school. So he's gonna he. But I think he says I gotta go to my house so that I can catch the bus to school. It's like, well, you don't have a house, I don't understand you don't have a house.
Speaker 2:No, it's confusing. The motivation was confusing, but I love the idea of him leaving school to find a bus stop to get on, like that's a funny idea.
Speaker 1:I just don't think that it's done very well you have to write a line in there as to why, where and how you know he's all nice he doesn't care, he doesn't count coming to school unless you ride on the bus. You and the bus guy keeps on giving him crap or something. Because, you don't have to be here. There's an interaction there the bus guy hates him. Okay, great, that makes some sense. I would hate him too.
Speaker 2:It makes it seem like he lives in the world. Look at that.
Speaker 1:So Lloyd is running to get the bus, harry is fleeing something I don't know what he's fleeing and they run into each other. And this is the point at which lloyd chips his tooth. He chips it right into harry's forehead. They both miss the bus and they become friends almost instantaneously, which makes sense yeah, yeah, I mean they're you.
Speaker 2:You know, simple, fun, simple guys. So I'm like I'm okay, I'm okay with that, meet cute, that's fine.
Speaker 1:Tony's fine. Yeah, I mean I don't you know?
Speaker 2:that's it's a fine start. If this is the third scene of the movie, I think it's great. First scene is we meet Harry. Second scene is lloyd dancing in the school. Third scene is this. Then we're in the movie. Boom, but we've already done an extra eight minutes of nonsense wasted time with things we don't ever need to do.
Speaker 1:Um, okay, boom, they see the hot girl, which is jessica. Um, they see turk, who is the bully. The bully, bully, bullies. Lloyd Harry talks to the girl, jessica, for a second. Okay, we're setting up our characters. The bully stops being the bully instantaneously.
Speaker 2:Yeah, weird, right, it's what it is. I don't know. They are very uncomfortable towards Jessica, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't really have anything to say. It's not funny, like if you're saying weird, if you're making them weird and kind of creepy, like they have to be jokes, you know. Otherwise, like, why is Jessica still talking, still talking to them?
Speaker 1:well, she says that she's like you're funny, you're funny, right, she keeps telling me that he's funny.
Speaker 2:But he's not funny, yeah, so that's a problem.
Speaker 2:He should do something funny like you know it's unintentional or you know, like something, like he can do something that I find funny. And then when she says you're funny, I'm like I agree. But if she says, oh, you're funny, that's why I'm still talking to you I'm like, no, he's not. So this is a weird dynamic and I don't understand what's happening. I'm out, I'm out, he's not funny, he's being weird. Yes, he's being weird, yes, yeah, that people don't say you're funny. If you're being weird, yeah, they're like what? You're a weirdo, I'll goodbye and then that's it. And then they never talk again. I don't know. She gets a restraining order and then we're all happy you're making me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:Now we meet the principal. I believe it's principal collins, uh played by eugene levy and Sherry Oteri, who is the lunch lady they make out, and then his plan is to build the school. This is the plot of the movie. He's going to build the school by creating a special needs program and then the school superintendent, on the day of the Thanksgiving Day Parade, is going to bring them a large check, a check so large that they will be able to flee the country. Wait, are they fleeing?
Speaker 2:to.
Speaker 1:Hawaii, hawaii.
Speaker 2:So it's not fleeing the country, so you're not even fleeing the country.
Speaker 1:No, just the mainland, and then they will be able to live out the rest of their lives. On this one, check for a special needs class for eight kids.
Speaker 2:That's A. That's not right B. That's not how Hawaii works, like Hawaii's expensive dude.
Speaker 1:It's not how Hawaii works.
Speaker 2:If you pick somewhere that was like at least affordable, I'll be like, okay, I mean, I guess you could try to figure it out, but you go to Hawaii, you're done in two weeks, You're out, guy.
Speaker 1:Guess you could try to figure it out. But you go to hawaii, you're done. In two weeks you're out, guy, it's. I mean, what is? This is not a, it's not a 25 million dollar check.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's. It wasn't even that big, I don't know they never.
Speaker 1:They never said how much it was is that true?
Speaker 2:never said okay, all right um sherry o terry super hot okay, good, you know, sometimes I feel like I'm I'm weird, right. And by I feel that way, I mean sometimes I'm told that by my wife, because sometimes I have specific tastes, but like she's very attractive, right she's, she's she's attractive, but she's like she's, she does a lot of stuff and you're just she, she's playing somebody.
Speaker 1:That's kind of stupid. But she's also like I don't know. She's like interestingly flirty and weird and I don't know.
Speaker 2:You know, I thought you're really appealing yeah, the thing about playing dumb characters is to do it well, you have to be very smart, right, like that's a thing, and so that is already attractive and then you know she's very good at it. She just crushes it. I. I love her and eugene levy in this movie. My only problem is is that their entire thing is just so cartoony. At least in the original Dumb and Dumber. The bad, the quote bad guys are very grounded people, like it's the opposite. So the outside world grounds Dumb and Dumber and you have two fish out of water. This movie half of the people are crazy. Like half of the people are these wacky, zany characters. So there is no like fish out of water. They kind of fit into the world. Yeah, which is wrong.
Speaker 1:Well, and they're the whole plot.
Speaker 2:Also true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, first one, when they get on that scooter and drive to colorado, for I think an absurd reason, right, just to go see the girl, or something well, yeah, she, I mean now we'll recap real quickly she leaves a briefcase at the airport because she's paying somebody money.
Speaker 2:He sees that she left the briefcase, he steals it. So the bad guys are chasing him as he tries to deliver the suitcase to her in aspen, which is where she said she was going yeah, so our main characters have chosen to do something yeah and then the whole plot is driven by them trying to give that briefcase back to her for a long time, right?
Speaker 1:though pretty much the entire movie yeah, okay, so so our guys are motivated to do something and we'll go through. They'll go through heaven, earth, right to get that briefcase back to her absolutely we, we have a, we have a train going down the tracks. Now this movie that harry and lloyd they're just in class they're just doing stuff.
Speaker 1:At one point they like leave the plot to to go to the school. I think it. You're just like they just left the plot. Oh, you know, we're going to the the convenience store they go to the convenience store at one point for no reason and you're like well, they get slushy stan okay well, obviously you've never desired a slushy.
Speaker 2:Okay, you don't get it too bold, sugary, delicious treat oh, we're supposed to do that.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's the whole thing. Special needs class. They raise Harry and Lloyd up the flagpole and that's when they realize that those are the guys to start out their new special needs class, right, which they immediately take them and start the class. Where does the class happen? In the cafeteria.
Speaker 2:In the lunchroom, in the cafeteria.
Speaker 1:In the cafeteria. In the cafeteria with the lunch, ladies working behind them, kitchen's right behind them, yep, when they take special needs class out of the cafeteria, I was like why did you just take your best premise?
Speaker 2:that you've set up in the whole movie.
Speaker 1:The thing that made me laugh that I was like you're going to get mileage out of this.
Speaker 2:They moved them to a shack. Spoiler alert they're not going to get mileage out of it, dan, no miles, maybe a couple of feet, but no miles.
Speaker 1:So then they set them up to pick the class, and now we get the montage of them picking kids for the class.
Speaker 2:Which is like a. This is fun For me, like this little montage is pretty fun, like I have some chuckles on it.
Speaker 1:It's fine. They pick a kid with a broken foot because he Broken arm. Dan oh broken arm because he's handicapped and we do a whole thing with that I think he actually had both.
Speaker 2:To be honest with you, they get a broken arm and a messed up foot because he's also on crutches. Right, he is on crutches, yeah, anyhow. But this is funny because they're like, oh, what happened, little guy, like it's a funny exchange with a kid.
Speaker 1:That's way cooler than him. He just happens to be wearing a cast. You know that's fun and he's gonna bring his girlfriend. We have turk the bully. He's peeping on the girls and so then he joins the class which is very weird. I don't know uh, a football guy who runs into the goalposts, so they're like he joins the class.
Speaker 2:What an interesting comment on brain injuries in sports. Like out of all the people in this class, he kind of belongs. It's very weird.
Speaker 1:It's a really weird thing. Tony's going to talk about the scene where they introduce the asian girl oh god, I have to talk about it.
Speaker 2:You just don't want to talk about it, right, like that's how it's going, what's? It I okay, let's talk about it first. Um they meet her. I don't remember how this even happens she. Does she talk first or does lloyd talk first?
Speaker 2:lloyd does all the talking so they, they she's a foreign exchange, so they make some very offensive ching chong ching jokes when he talks, when he tries to talk to her and it's not the only time they do it in the movie, which is weird. Like that's one of those jokes that you don't hammer home. You know what I mean? Mean, dan, if you want to do it, you do it once and then you apologize for it later, but you can't keep hitting that. That's a weird thing. I don't know. 2003,. We knew better, right.
Speaker 1:I guess they think her name is Ching Chong. That's what they think. And we learned the classic lesson way back when, when you did improv and there was one thing where it was like you had to do it in the you know, you had to make up the foreign language, you had to speak in a foreign language and make it up, and when, when you got those asian languages, you would just be like, yeah, trouble.
Speaker 1:Unless you were really good at doing something, you just sounded like the most racist person. You just didn't do it. You couldn't do it.
Speaker 2:You'd be like no, you can't, you can't. It's a lose-lose situation. You can't do it and what's interesting and we can talk about this later when this happens but they even doubled down with the racism at one point, because she turns out she doesn't have even have an accent and she speaks perfect english and he's he makes her do it again like he doesn't like her without the accent. It's a super, it's a super weird side side story to have and she's, she's.
Speaker 1:She says at one point that she does the the accent because it helps her meet boys. Okay, okay, okay, moving on the last of the people is shia labeouf which I totally forgot about, like I.
Speaker 2:I mean, I must have known at the time that he was in it, but he probably, I guess, maybe he wasn't shy of holes had happened anyhow. When he showed up I was like that's weird.
Speaker 1:He delivers one line and you're like oh my god, he's a better actor than everyone in the movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, literally, he could deliver you know one line.
Speaker 1:You're like this kid is so talented.
Speaker 2:And he is. Say what you want about him. I'm not a big fan either, but talent is not his problem. No, not at all. Also, you know what it makes me want to watch Transformers again? I haven't seen that movie in a couple years. That's a banger.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you should watch that. They go to Harry's mom's for dinner, then they play this weird game with no real rules and they talk about Captain Rob, and then the mom comes in and she kisses Harry goodnight. And then she kisses Lloyd goodnight. And then Lloyd is like man, your mom made a move on me. And then he does a bit about how he's going to be his new dad, which wasn't funny in the way it came out, but I was like this is a bit. This is a good bit. This is a bit.
Speaker 2:It's a good bit and you should be able to deliver it. You know like it's. It's an. I don't want to say it's an easy bit, but it's say it's an easy bit, but it's a pretty easy bit to hit. You know what I mean. Those jokes write themselves.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Well, they're supposed to, they should. I don't know. I don't know exactly what went wrong, but it's not funny and it should be a very easy joke to get over, especially because you know I'm on board. I'm already your premise, I'm hooked.
Speaker 1:I love that yeah, it's good premise um lloyd is teaching the class.
Speaker 2:Uh oh wait, no, they do?
Speaker 1:they do a special needs class photo, and then they she puts lloyd in charge of the class.
Speaker 2:He's teaching the class this was one of my jokes that I liked damn, by the way. So I'm just gonna, I'm gonna call it out when they do the photo, yeah, sherry o'terry gets in the photo at first and eugene levy is like, do you remember why we're here? It makes her go take the photo. It's just like a funny moment where there's no one to take the photo. It's cute, it's funny, you know good joke.
Speaker 1:I don't think I wrote down any of the stuff I like between them, because that was the stuff I just generally. You know, those were the scenes that I was like, oh I'm enjoying I you know yeah, exactly, I never felt like someone needed to go in there and fix all those scenes.
Speaker 2:You were like these scenes are fine yeah, well, you know, you have two professionals, so it helps a little.
Speaker 1:I wrote to. I wrote down talks to dad. Happy Lloyd's special.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, they talked to Luis Guzman.
Speaker 1:Oh, they talked to Luis.
Speaker 2:Guzman, because he's like why are you in my shed? So they tell him oh, we're in the special class.
Speaker 1:And then Luis is all excited because he always knew he was going to be special.
Speaker 2:Turk hits on me which could be like a cute moment, but it's just like I don't know, it's just lost in the, in the nonsense then we go to the convenience store for the slushy and we have what's his name, general los angeles comedian guy, as the slushy guy and yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember his name.
Speaker 1:I feel bad brad, I think his name is brad. Um, I'll believe you. And then they do. They play, you're it.
Speaker 2:And then he gets annoyed at them brian, his name is brian posen, or something like that he's very funny, not funny in this movie no, I mean, you know again, the jokes aren't written there, so it's hard to be funny without like a joke.
Speaker 1:They get brain freeze, and then jessica shows up and they're all like jessica and I listen.
Speaker 2:I'm sure people would disagree with me, but the brain freeze scene annoys me because they do a CGI thing where they like go into the body, like what is? How does that fit the rest of the vibe of this movie at all? What is the point of that?
Speaker 1:this movie does a lot of bad things like that. It has, like one fit one Lloyd extended fantasy sex scene. There's also occasionally we start hearing what harry's thinking for a scene that's right, which doesn't make any sense doesn't make sense. Let me do it again later when, when we're trying to fill a little bit of space and it's like that kind of stuff you have to be very consistent with in your movie.
Speaker 1:If lloyd is having fantasies, then he's having fantasies throughout. If harry's talking to himself in his brain, he's doing that throughout. You can't just like go, wouldn't it be funny if this one scene we did this one thing that has no continuity, anything.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no no, it's not good, it's just distracting. Just pulls me out of whatever you're doing naughty, naughty, naughty uh hawaii.
Speaker 1:uh, the principal's having hawaiian night and this is when we set up that they're going to get the check and the parade. I think this might also be where we set up that there's a he tapes everything. The principal tapes everything and takes photos of everything and then he puts them in this giant chest in the office for no reason Only to incriminate himself.
Speaker 2:That's the only reason to ever do any of those things. If you are a mass, if you're doing an evil plan, you literally don't leave the evidence in your own office, like that's what is. I don't even understand who writes that and thinks that that's a plausible plot line of a movie. I don't know. I didn't like it. I don't like it. It's pretty silly.
Speaker 1:It's pretty terrible. The next day we do the short bus. They built this little short bus which is for the kids.
Speaker 2:I kind of love it.
Speaker 1:It was really well made and very funny.
Speaker 2:And the joke, the very first joke, that they do don't know. Lloyd gets in it runs and runs right into the back of the bus and he goes careful, harriet, shorter than I imagined. Very funny to me, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I I laugh pretty hard it's like you say, it's a good joke.
Speaker 2:I did not laugh at all sure because I, because I didn't care about these guys you know it's like here's the Dan, and I know this. While I was watching it, I went into it and I was like, oh, I can't be biased about it, but I am. I love Eric Christian Olsen.
Speaker 1:I love him.
Speaker 2:I think he is fantastic. And if it fired up right here, that's my poster, he's the star of that film. That's, you know, my poster. He's the star of that film. Uh, so I, even though the movie's not good.
Speaker 1:If he delivers a joke, sure I will laugh at it. Yeah, you're predisposed to him. Yes, you're invested. He does a good job.
Speaker 2:If he was bad in this movie I think it might ruin it, but he's not bad. The movie's terrible, but he does a pretty good job. You know.
Speaker 1:Good for him yeah, everybody, everybody tries, you know, that's just everybody tries.
Speaker 2:There are movies that that's not the case. So, uh, you know what?
Speaker 1:yeah, I'll take it so jessica is a journalist and we set that up in the first scene with her, and she's realized that something's going on with the special needs class, so she's going to follow them in her car, in her station wagon, and then we have a chase scene which is so weird.
Speaker 1:Comes of nothing. Yeah, uh. This is the point at which I realized that the movies in the eighties Okay, uh, we go to the museum. Harry has a whole thing with the polar bear. Um, she talks to her, jessica talks to her you're so funny. And then she's all like maybe you know something, come to my house at seven. He thinks he's she's hitting on him. Boom, uh. Then we go back to the school and or maybe it's still at the museum, I don't remember um, we get. The most offensive part of the whole movie is we do a whole thing. Chicks are for homosexuals, but we use the f word and it's just like oh you're just like I don't understand, I don't.
Speaker 1:You don't understand what it means, you don't it doesn mean anything.
Speaker 2:It's just a way to get a buzzword in there. Buzzword's not the right word. What's the right word where it's like a dangerous word that we're using just because we want to be dangerous? I don't know. Charged word Again, it's 2003. I feel like we knew better. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1:Well, and you're not saying anything. It's not a joke. It's not a joke yeah if you go back and watch porky's movies and things like that. I'm sure if they say defensive things about homosexuals, it it follows a certain sort of line of thinking about them being scared of it or whatever. This is just like. That line doesn't make any sense. It's like why would he say that? Yeah? I don't know I don't know, it's weird, super weird.
Speaker 2:Unfortunate.
Speaker 1:We do that line again later, which we won't even talk about. But you're like oh, you brought it back because it really didn't work the first time. Then she's like you gotta bring her chocolate. So he buys some chocolate out of the machine, he goes to see jessica, they go upstairs, there's lots of innuendo, then he sits on a heater and then he goes to the bathroom and the basically the chocolate gets everywhere somehow, dan, he has one bar of chocolate that's this big and he somehow smears the bathroom with 18 gallons of melted chocolate.
Speaker 2:It doesn't make any sense. But here's what I will say. Bob Saget did make me laugh so hard. There's shit everywhere. He does, he commits, he gives it 110% and I love it. He cracked me up, I'm not going to lie. It's a great when it's only him. It's a great scene.
Speaker 1:Terrible scene. You don't like it? Well, let me do two things. Okay, do two things. First of all. I think it was was it harrison that did the? Did a sketch where they came out with shit in their pants, like I do not remember that I don't know, I don't remember there's. There's some sketch that somebody did that we know at Groundlings.
Speaker 1:I think it was Harrison, and they came out and they had stuff on their pants and then they got it everywhere and it was really horrible, sure. Second thing the greatest scene like this ever is game night, where he what does he get? Wine on the dog and on the white carpet, or what is it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's red wine, so it looks like blood yeah.
Speaker 1:Just one of the funniest scenes. I died laughing during that scene.
Speaker 2:Well, Game Night's really good Game Night's. That's an unfair comparison.
Speaker 1:One of the best comedies of all time that nobody talks about, which is crazy.
Speaker 2:We talk about If it makes you, you feel better. We talk about it all the time, dan, because the scene where oh, what's that guy's name? Plemmons? Jesse plemmons when he's holding the dog and he's like pity, I was cooking lamb and I don't remember exactly what he says, but that scene where they're going to dinner and he's there, that is one of the scenes we use for testing at yahoo. So there you go, because we all think it's hilarious.
Speaker 1:I mean it's a perfect comedy. It's, it's incredible comedy yeah, it's brilliant, yes, that bob saget comes in, discovers all this chocolate everywhere and loses his mind um. The problem is if that was shit, it would smell horribly and you would know you.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you would know you when you open that door. You would be vomiting, you would be losing your mind, and he he gets so angry and and goes for five minutes.
Speaker 1:You're just like, well, no, you would instantly be like what the fuck is this mess?
Speaker 2:you wouldn't say that's your problem.
Speaker 1:Not that one chocolate candy bar became all of that like that's, oh boy, there's shit everywhere he's still funny he's funny, you, you, you love it, but yeah no, it doesn't make any sense on any level uh, lloyd is driving a waxer up the street knocking over people.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, you know, just like janitors do, I guess.
Speaker 1:Oh, we haven't gotten the job. Bob Sagan hasn't done that yet. We've got a lot more in the house. Still, he gets there. Lloyd just messed up the whole room. He needs help with Jessica. So we go down and we're going to do the feed him, the lines through the window, but there's a dog there and Lloyd is talking to the dog and then harry is saying the things that he's saying to the dog, to the girl, and yeah, oh, he put on the suit. He put on the mom's suit.
Speaker 1:That's gonna be yeah um, it just doesn't work of course.
Speaker 2:No, it doesn't work at all, not, not, even a little bit.
Speaker 1:And then Julia Duffy shows up. She's the mom and she's like oh, I have a suit, just like that. And you're like okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, ma.
Speaker 1:And then for some reason she kisses Lloyd.
Speaker 2:Oh, lloyd comes in and they talk for some reason, and oh, Lloyd's going to get out of the school, Yep, exactly because he's got the janitor keys.
Speaker 1:So Harry sees this and he is very angry. And then Lloyd is going to meet Jessica At the principal's office. Yeah, then Lloyd has the fantasy about them when there's a three breasted woman Harry's mom and Jessica kiss, and they have a's mom and jessica kiss and they have a makeout.
Speaker 2:They fight.
Speaker 1:Then they have a makeout contest and harry comes in on a jet pack and then lloyd farts yep, that's like the culmination of the scene is the the water bubbles yep did you like that?
Speaker 2:you love fart jokes? No, I love fart jokes, zing. You got them good, dude. I'm proud of you. Yeah, no, I don't. I don't know it's. I think it was just like how do we get out of this scene? We're we're stuck in a makeout scene now that we don't know how to get out of this was.
Speaker 1:This is how you waste a million dollars. So you waste a million dollars in a movie because you, you're like yeah, yeah. What we're gonna do is we're gonna have this, all these extra ladies and gonna be water, and then everyone's gonna do this. It's just like what, what is? This is the scene you want.
Speaker 2:This is the scene you need in your movie yeah, this is the scene we need in every movie. Okay, two girls kissing and then, and then water bubbles. It's perfect. It's a perfect scene. Everybody loves it. Oh, so you liked it? No, no, no, I'm being facetious, dan, I did not. I don't enjoy it. I don't understand it. Um, also, why does he come in on a jet pack? I don't like. It felt like they were making a joke, where that's the sort of thing Harry would fantasize about and Lloyd is horny. And then at some point Harry Harry's like oh, your fantasies are way cooler than mine. And it flies away in a jet pack. And I don't know if they're saying that the jet packs cooler or the lesbians are cooler. I don't understand. I just don't get cooler. I don't understand. I just don't get it. I don't understand it.
Speaker 1:I think that what they they're, you know, it's the approach to comedy. We're just going to put these things all together and that you know there you go.
Speaker 2:That's it Same words? Um, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Um, okay. So at the principal's office, jessica tears through everything and can't find a giant locked chest as the place where the stuff is hidden and she's all like there's nothing here. I'm leaving with my boyfriend and lloyd is like okay, I'll clean up the place and then I'll find the chest and then takes the chest pushes the chest out there because he thinks it's captain robs or something.
Speaker 2:Yep, thinks it's captain robs and he's gonna take it to to harry his best friend harry, so he goes to harry's house.
Speaker 1:He throws a brick through the window, and then which is which? Is pretty funny yeah, and then they get angry at each other, and then Lloyd throws Harry out of the cool club, and then there's sad music, and then there's memories of their friendship, but they're never really sad.
Speaker 2:What Like it's sad music, but they're never sad. You know, yes, it's a problem.
Speaker 2:And the clips they use just are not really much of anything 100, but when they break up there has to be an emotional feeling between the two of them on any level, like it's just kind of fake crying and yelling, like we need a real human moment between these two characters. I understand that that's not the movie that we're we're watching, but if this were a real movie you would have to ground that moment so that I believe that they are done like having real problems, because the fake crying and stuff that they're like that uh lloyd is doing is not. It's not good, it doesn't convince you of anything fake, fake.
Speaker 1:Um, why did they just make this as a parody of, since it's called, when harry met lloyd? Why is this a parody of when harry met sally?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, I mean, I think that's a fair question could you?
Speaker 1:could you have done that? You think?
Speaker 2:of course. I mean you could. You don't have to make it a straight up full parody, but you should have moments in it, right? There should be some sort of key moments that relate to it. I don't know. There's a lot of great stuff in when Harry Met Sally that you could parody.
Speaker 1:Is that the one with the orgasm scene where she does that?
Speaker 2:That is the one where Meg Ryan has an orgasm in a restaurant.
Speaker 1:I mean, don't the two of them have to do that in a restaurant?
Speaker 2:I mean somebody has to do that, probably just at the school cafeteria, right? I don't know.
Speaker 1:That's funny. That's a funny premise.
Speaker 2:It's a, I mean it's. It's right there for you. Like you, it's after. That movie should do something. You think so? Um, well you're asking a lot oh.
Speaker 1:God, this is, this is, oh, my God. Um so, lloyd is fine. He sees shy as the pirate and, I think, punches him for some reason.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah. So like they kind of talk a little and it's kind of funny because Shia just thinks that they're friends and then Lloyd thinks he's the pirate and then they go their separate ways. But then Lloyd, like he leaves screen and then he comes back and just like tackles him, like de-cleats him, the legs go flying up, like it's a funny tackle. Just the lead up to it was very confusing to me so I didn't totally understand the motivations behind it. But then I guess he just beats the shit out of him, because the next time you see shia he's got like a black eye and he runs away from from lloyd but not in the second scene after that.
Speaker 2:Then he's just well right I mean, he has one scene of being scared and then he, he gets over it. You, know, as we all do.
Speaker 1:Now did you see the funniest part of this scene?
Speaker 2:Uh-oh no.
Speaker 1:Did you see the sign?
Speaker 2:behind them. Oh no, I didn't see a sign. What's the sign say?
Speaker 1:So it's a fish and chips place? Yeah, and the sign says fish with real chocolate chips.
Speaker 2:Why? Why? Because that's not a thing. That's too weird. I'm bummed that I didn't even see that. But that doesn't make any sense, because I was watching it.
Speaker 1:It went behind a flash and I was like wait, did that say fish with real chocolate chips?
Speaker 2:Hold the phone. It said chocolate chips back there.
Speaker 1:Exactly what it said uh, that don't make any sense to make up with harry lloyd, brings him the polar bear from the museum, and then they're friends again now.
Speaker 2:Did I miss something at the museum that would make him? He said that he talked about the polar bear, but in a way where he was like boy. I wish I had that in my room. No Right, so I don't get it.
Speaker 1:They carry the polar bear up the stairs. I like that scene.
Speaker 2:I thought that was very funny. It's fine. They're just like.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's the thing about it is these two idiots Carrying that polar bear, which had no weight At all.
Speaker 2:It was made out of paper.
Speaker 1:I'm like this is, this is your movie, but they don't understand what their movie is.
Speaker 2:No, nobody understands it.
Speaker 1:Come to the school the next day, they're wearing clothes Made out of the polar bear. Yeah, what Don't really make a lot of sense chest principal finds the chest is missing and then he's like I'm gonna take care of jessica, okay uh, the kids.
Speaker 2:I do like I'm because I'm I'm. You know, I'm trying to point out the things that I enjoyed. Sherry o terry, always thinking that the move is to kill people is a very funny bit. It's like I'm going to take care of Jessica. Oh, you're going to kill her. No, I'm not going to kill her. It's funny. It's a funny bit. I like it. They're comedians.
Speaker 1:People are comedians for a reason. Yeah, I don't know those reasons, but they're great, I know I, I do um, so they, they have to decide on the float. They're gonna make the float george washington uh, because he's the guy in the dollar bill. Okay, um is that.
Speaker 2:Okay, I didn't.
Speaker 1:It didn't make any sense to me, but it's fine, it doesn't matter, it's inconsequential we actually have a plot thing that works is they're all like why should we make this float? And sherry's like do you want us to keep coming to this class? You're gonna make the float. I'm like great, yeah, there you go, let's keep the class going because it's easy. Great stuff, guys well, we have a float building montage and then the principal's to get rid of Jessica, so he takes her in his car and drives her kidnaps her and wants to know where his chest is.
Speaker 2:Listen, it's actually a very scary scene if you think about it, because she's like my parents are going to know and he says one call from the principal and it's like you know what, that's probably not untrue, right. Like if the principal and they'll, and it's like you know what, that's probably not untrue, right. Like if the principal wanted to kidnap a student but called and was like hey, we're keeping her after school, the parents wouldn't question it, right?
Speaker 1:very scary stuff for me well, that would then lead them, lead the police, directly back to him when she doesn't come home the next day well, yeah, but he's gone man he's gone he took her. They're, they're gone, they're in havana well, I mean, yeah, you could have just killed her anyhow, I so okay.
Speaker 2:so I do have a question. By the way, yes, is this a subversion where he, because he says one call from the principal and then it cuts to the phone call and he's pretending to be her friend yeah Well, this is her friend. It's funny. I thought that was a good joke. It's a good joke.
Speaker 1:It's just how we got there. It just is like yeah, yeah, no, you can't. This is you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's great stuff. Yeah, you love this movie.
Speaker 1:I think it's great stuff. Yeah, you love this movie. They go back to the convenience store.
Speaker 2:They have to pay a kid to go and buy them slushies. So this is a scene that I enjoyed. Okay, not because I think it's like oh, this is a really good scene, it's really funny, but it is a scene that I think makes sense for the characters of dumb and dumber yes, the original yes, which is very rare in this movie where it's like I could. This makes sense to me in the world that they set up originally, where they're trying to pull one over on this kid and the kid, by default, just gets to wait, like pulls it over, pulls it over, and he's like what just happened? Why are you giving me $5 now? This is ridiculous and they think they've won and I think that's a really nice, it's a really nice moment and that's the sort of that's the level of these characters need to be at, and they're not.
Speaker 1:And these, you know, when you're pursuing this plot where Jessica has to be kidnapped and the phone call, just all this it's just too much. You know, it is way too much. In Animal House, the dean just sat in his office and then sent his minions out. He did not go and try and kidnap Bluto and, you know, set fire to Animal House or whatever. No, set fire, oh boy Should have done that, okay. Set fire to Animal House or whatever? No, set fire, oh boy Should have done that. Okay. So they see Jessica, they see Jessica in the car, they see the principal on the phone, and then somehow they start pumping gas and they pour the gas everywhere.
Speaker 2:What's weird is that they have two gas nozzles.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I didn't understand that.
Speaker 1:Well, there are some gas places where they'll let you pump first before you pay that's?
Speaker 2:yeah, I guess that's true but also that's true. Whose car is that and why are they? Why? I don't understand. What are they? Do they think they're washing it like? What is what do they think?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know, I didn't get it this was another hundred thousand they had in the budget that they wanted to burn by doing an explosion at the gas station I mean, they do, they do blow that shit up they blow? Well, they do. Yeah, in front of the gas station there's a big explosion, so you're like well, that's money.
Speaker 2:Well, spent for money well spent it has nothing to do with any of it, your 7-eleven worker guy somehow flies across town.
Speaker 1:Not how things work oh, does he fly across town? He does indeed yeah night at the principal's house. Um, he finds lloyd's mixtape in her purse and puts it on. And it's super weird. They show up and are talking to her through the window. Then they flash back to why it's night because, as they were following her, they got a giant hot dog and then somehow hot dogs on the giant hot dog while the giant hot dog was driving. I don't understand I have absolutely no idea.
Speaker 2:You know what would be a nice thing to put here, though. Dan is like a call back to the other window scene where they try to get, they try to talk her through what to say to the principal and she's like shut up, I don't, I don't need your help, shut up. You know, something like that would have been a nice little callback they could totally have done that.
Speaker 1:They were like, yeah, there's, there's all sorts of jokes you can do with that, all sorts of good, but instead they got a hot dog. They flashed back to a hot dog scene.
Speaker 2:You're welcome.
Speaker 1:That wasn't funny. He's like they say something and he's like three words. I did. I thought that was very funny.
Speaker 2:He said not that he's going to say three words.
Speaker 1:He only says two words.
Speaker 2:And he doesn't. It's great. You know great little.
Speaker 1:Set them up, knock them down so she's like oh, you've got the chest, go get the chest. They try to get into the chest and when they get in there's nothing they want in there, and so they say the real treasure is friendship. But they put the tape on and they don't understand.
Speaker 2:Yes, that is correct. Very funny scene, really great.
Speaker 1:The parade begins the next day. They've changed the float from George Washington into the principal, which I thought was very funny looking.
Speaker 2:We do the whole thing with the Chinese girl. Yeah, we don't need to talk about it again. I changed my mind.
Speaker 1:It's just not good.
Speaker 2:So now we have the FBI, turns out this whole thing is a sting operation.
Speaker 1:It's all a setup. There's the FBI and then there's another dude there who's a comedian, who's? Oh no, the comedian guy is the FBI guy and he's like I don't know what his name is, but he's a comedian supposedly.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And he studied acting in the police academy, or something he said I don't know.
Speaker 1:Police school, acting in the police academy or something he said I don't know police school. So then they go up there and they're like we gotta get him to take the check and so as they go up there and then the comedian guy does a bunch of bits that I just were bad. Yeah, special needs jokes yeah, not great and then the superintendent yeah, Special needs jokes. Yeah, not great. And then the superintendent says I could give you the check now, but I'm going to wait till after the parade.
Speaker 2:Like why the whole point that you just said was that you wanted to give him the check. He's ready to receive the check. Just give him the check. Just don't put that in the movie. Don't say all we need to do is give him the check, just give him the check. Just don't put that in the movie. Don't say all we need to do is give him the check, like, just make it seem like you don't have to. There's more steps or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's so weird. You literally set up with one line the thing that you're supposed to be happening and then in the next scene, continuous scene, you're like. Scene, continuous scene, you're like maybe not.
Speaker 2:You have the opportunity. You change your mind.
Speaker 1:For no reason. What are we doing, oh God? So basically they show up in the float, on the float, they're playing the tape. Because all the other kids figured out what was going on, because Harry and Lloyd are idiots. And then Eugene Levy grabs the check, and then the police show up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like a whole. There's a whole bunch of people, I don't know man.
Speaker 1:Did you think the police were there for the principal or do you think they were there for Harry and Lloyd?
Speaker 2:Oh, I guess it didn't even cross my mind that it'd be harry and lloyd. What did they do? Blew up a gas station oh, they blew up a gas. I this is how inconsequential everything that happens in this movie is. Yeah, they blew up a gas station, didn't even remember, like that, it doesn't even register. Yeah, oh boy. So oh boy. The only thing I remember them doing is cutting Shia LaBeouf's hair off that was a good joke that was a good joke.
Speaker 1:Eugene Lever gets picked up by the float, and he's going to go to jail for a long, long time, is he though? Probably not that long do you want to talk about the two hot girls that come to pick them up at the end of the movie.
Speaker 2:You think they're hot?
Speaker 1:I mean by comparison.
Speaker 2:sure, oh sure. I mean it's clearly a callback to the first one, where there's like a bus of attractive women Are they cheerleaders, I can't really remember oh, okay, but they're like, hey, which way do we go? You want to come with us? And basically they say no, I don't remember. So it's like the same idea where attractive women are trying to get them to go someplace and they say no. In the original it's very funny and this one is not very funny, uh, but I do like.
Speaker 1:the joke about one of the twins being ugly, sure, like that does make me laugh but, more importantly, they pull up and they're like hey, harry and lloyd, you want to come with us?
Speaker 2:right, because now they're famous somehow within seconds.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't, I don't get that they should just pull up and do like the bus and say, hey, do you boys want to ride? Because we boys, whatever they need to say something. They can't act like they know them. Why would they know?
Speaker 2:them? Why would they want them in the car? They're famous, they're very famous people.
Speaker 1:Why.
Speaker 2:I have no idea, because they blow up a gas station, dan Okay.
Speaker 1:Then they hit the accelerator, they cover Harry in mud, but Lloyd doesn't get anything on him. Then Harry wanders into the street and takes one of the hardest car hits I've ever seen he's dead, yeah and is unaffected, and it's bob uh saying and he yells at them because of all the shit that he's gotten on his car, which is really just mud, and why would you think of shit?
Speaker 2:I don't know If it's in a muddy street, Just because I'm assuming they also were there that day filming and were like him. Yelling about shit is funny, so let's just put it in the movie again.
Speaker 1:It's a callback to another situation where a person knows that thing is not covered in shit. They know it's mud man. That's the other thing. If you had that much melted chocolate in that bathroom you would smell it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it would be delicious, yes.
Speaker 1:You would be glorious, you'd walk in and be like.
Speaker 2:Visually it looks like shit, but I want to lick it. I don't know why.
Speaker 1:When you're by the campfire making your s'mores and two or three people have made s'mores with hot hot chocolate. Can you smell?
Speaker 2:that, oh God yeah.
Speaker 1:It makes a smell, doesn't it?
Speaker 2:Of course.
Speaker 1:Chocolate makes a smell, releases a smell when heated.
Speaker 2:I got to go camping. Dan, let's get out of here. That's the end of the movie.
Speaker 1:And then we play a bunch of.
Speaker 2:Well, now there's some great I don't know what do you call them Bloopers. Outtakes A gag reel.
Speaker 1:Funnier than most of the stuff in the movie.
Speaker 2:As per usual. That's the way it usually goes.
Speaker 1:Let's hire a funny person, because your guy I'm assuming you consider him to be funny- Well, yeah, I think everyone considers him to be funny, dan, so instead of having him, do funny things. We have him do a parody of somebody, an impression of somebody, and it turns out to not be funny.
Speaker 2:But still a great impression. I want to hammer that home. You know he nails Jim.
Speaker 1:He nails Jim. Jim got nailed.
Speaker 2:And what I do want to say, because I did a little research on it Dan Tell me what you want to say uh, because I did a little, I did a little research on it dan tell me what you want to say and originally, apparently, the studio didn't want to hire him, eric christian olsen, because he's too handsome to play lloyd.
Speaker 2:They said so in order to convince them. They had to go get him in the wig and shave his very sexy scruff, because he likes to have a little scruff and long blonde hair. He's a very attractive man, anyhow. So they put him in the wig and then they just went into like a back alley and shot some scenes some like fake scenes with him and the guy that played Harry, and then showed it to the studio and they were like oh okay, yeah, he's great. So I just want to shout out to him for being too pretty.
Speaker 1:It's hard being so good looking. I know it's right. You know I wouldn't know, dan, I wouldn't know. I do know I have to live with it every day.
Speaker 2:It must be tough. You know I don't envy that, I do, I do uh, now we're talking about something we like this week.
Speaker 1:Uh, uh, martin short has been hosting jimmy kimmel all week. Oh, I didn't know that. I love martin short and he's been doing a bunch of jiminy glick oh, glick interviews, god so he did bill hater, he did um oh, I love bill hater. He had melissa mccarthy and nick kroll on the show. The Nick Kroll one is very, very good, most of McCarthy was pretty good.
Speaker 1:And then he did. Sean Hayes was another recorded one, which was very, very good also. So he is such a performer and whenever you're feeling bad about a movie that does not let performers actually get performances, you go watch a performer that gives a performance and then you see people performing think I will.
Speaker 2:I think that's what I'll do for lunch, while we, when we, hang out do that for lunch.
Speaker 1:And what do you got for us, tony?
Speaker 2:it's honestly it's been. A lot of stuff has come out and we're struggling to keep up uh, just stick with the bees.
Speaker 2:Uh, the boys started again and the bear started again and the Bear started again. So like we've watched a little bit of each of those and the Bear is just Fucking good man, it's just a really good show. And then, you know, I would like to shout out Once more Fired Up. Instead of watching this movie, go watch a good movie with Eric Christian Olsen. Fired Up everybody, so that Bear show is still about the cooking. Yeah, it's about the cooking. Watching this movie, go watch a good movie with eric christian olsen. Fired up everybody, so that bear show is still about the cooking yeah, it's about yeah, it's about the cooking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they open their own restaurant and it's very stressful and and very fun.
Speaker 1:It's good, it's really good wait, what didn't the brother own that restaurant?
Speaker 2:the sandwich I'm not gonna talk. I mean, what if people haven't seen this dan?
Speaker 1:so the so the brother's not with him anymore.
Speaker 2:I don't know who you mean by the brother at this moment.
Speaker 1:Isn't the brother, his brother, who owns the sandwich shop? Is that his brother?
Speaker 2:So the whole point of the movie is the guy who owns the sandwich shop dies, which is the brother of the main guy. And then he has to take over the sandwich shop. And then they, actually they decided to open their own restaurant in that spot. And that's all the farther I'll say.
Speaker 1:So it's still about cooking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a hundred percent. Yeah, it's good, though it's really good. Did you watch it? It was a couple.
Speaker 1:Then they had this whole thing with a video game. It was really weird.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's an arcade game. Okay, it's a little bit different, dan, it's an arcade cabinet. Yeah, it's a video. Well, sure, I mean, yeah, but it's different, all right, it's a totally different vibe.
Speaker 1:It has a CRT, doesn't it? I don't know what that means. You work in the thing you work in and you don't know what a CRT is.
Speaker 2:I don't know. What does it stand for? You don't even know. Hold on, I gotta look. What is CRT? Is an acronym? What does it stand for?
Speaker 1:It's a monitor.
Speaker 2:Critical race theory. That's not it.
Speaker 1:It's not a monitor. That's not it.
Speaker 2:What if I do video games? Yeah, that's good Okay.
Speaker 1:Isn't it CRT? I have no idea, maybe I got the wrong one. Cathode ray tube from the old televisions, crt. Okay, yeah, cathode ray tube, that's what it is.
Speaker 2:You don't know what you're talking about they don't make them like that anymore. Make them like that anymore. Televisions, you know, okay, we used to have. You remember back in the day when tvs used to be like just gigantic. We had a 60 inch tv when I was growing up, which is, you know, huge, but even bigger because then the back is just as as big as the white, so like it takes up half a room because all the tubes and stuff. Those were huge, they're big tvs. I just love those things, man. Now you're like a 65 inch, you can hang it on the. Those were huge, they're big TVs. I used to love those things, man. Now you get like a 65-inch, you can hang it on the wall. It doesn't feel that big anymore.
Speaker 1:It wasn't large because of tubes.
Speaker 2:Tony, why was it large then?
Speaker 1:Well, do you know how a TV works?
Speaker 2:Not even a little bit.
Speaker 1:What it is is in the back of the TV. You have a gun. The gun that shoots light. Okay, there's got to be a different word for that it shoots light right, sure yeah, your RGBs and it shoots them and then in a color TV there were little dots on that screen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Little red, green and blue, and then it would shoot it and it would hit where it needed to be to make that color. But now we don't do that. Choo choo, choo, choo, choo, choo, choo choo.
Speaker 2:I don't know how it works now that makes two of us. Well, they're like little LEDs, so for it to be big you had to get some distance. Yeah, I guess that makes sense, similar to how my projector works Not in the way that it does, but the fact that I have to back up to get some distance, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So next week we're doing our 200th show, and happy by Centennial. That means we've almost been doing this show for four years.
Speaker 2:At some point very soon, we're going to have been doing it for more years than we have fans, so that'll be good, that would be good.
Speaker 1:So we're going to go and I pick, I pick, I pick, I'm picking the movie, and so I was like what are we gonna do? We need a a truly bad movie. Yeah, and the way you gauge a truly bad movie is it's a movie they don't even make available. Right like in this day and age, everybody that has a movie is like well, we got to have that movie out there so that, even if we're only making seven dollars a year, we're still making something no these movies are so bad they're not streamed anywhere.
Speaker 1:The only way to get them is to buy an old dvd, because you know they back in the day when they came out. You had to put the dvd.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they still released them. Yes, because you were gonna make money.
Speaker 1:So we are doing the garbage pail, kid the movie, movie, movie movie, movie, movie, movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, uh, I have never seen this and I am so excited about it. Supposed to be pretty terrible. Yeah, I can't wait. I'm very, I'm very excited, dan, this is a great choice yeah, I think proud of you.
Speaker 1:And you have the, you have the dvd yeah, I've got the dvd.
Speaker 2:Okay, and you know, we'll figure out a way to get you to see it wink, wink. Um yeah, because piracy is not a victimless crime okay, well, we paid for it.
Speaker 1:I think I paid for.
Speaker 2:I think I paid for it, oh you paid for this one and sent it to me. I think you're right. I think you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1:There were a couple I bought a long time ago and I was like we'll do these eventually yeah, we're gonna be doing, yeah, so I will.
Speaker 2:Uh, I'll get that all digitized.
Speaker 1:Uh, today so if you like what you see, uh, give us a thumbs up, subscribe or even leave a comment, and uh, we'll be back next week for our 200th episode, talking about the Garbage Pail Kids movie.
Speaker 2:Woo, goodbye, everybody hey.
Speaker 1:Watchin' with.
Speaker 2:Dan and Tony. Hey Watchin' with Dan and Tony. No-transcript.