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Ever wondered what would happen if a mischievous kid tried to outsmart his ex-con dad with stolen money? Join us for a belated but heartwarming Father's Day special as we revisit the 1994 classic "Getting Even with Dad." We reminisce about Macaulay Culkin's rise to stardom post-"Home Alone" and explore Ted Danson's journey from "Cheers" to "The Good Place." Our discussion touches on how this quirky movie attempts to blend father-son bonding with comedy, comparing its kid-centric charm to other nostalgic hits like "Blank Check" and "Richie Rich."

Hold on tight as we navigate through the movie's more fragmented and bizarre elements. From a criminal protagonist's fixation on a plant to a chaotic heist sequence filled with bumbling security guards, there's no shortage of confusing narrative choices to critique. We dissect the odd backstories, erratic behaviors, and laugh-out-loud moments that make this film a peculiar yet memorable ride. And let's not forget the father-son reunion scene, complete with pre-made itineraries and morbid photographs, which adds another layer of chaos to the storyline.

Finally, we stroll down memory lane, sharing our own childhood movie memories and debating the lasting impressions of films like "Blank Check" and "Richie Rich." Our playful banter about Ted Danson's evolving appeal, humorous misadventures in San Francisco's culinary scene, and quirky character dynamics bring a light-hearted end to this nostalgic episode. Don't miss out on our entertaining critique and the whimsical tales that capture the essence of childhood movie magic and the complexities of screen relationships.

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Speaker 1:

It's like our Father's Day show. Yeah, it's our Father's Day special, but just a little late. Hey watching with Dan and Tony. Hey, watching with Dan and Tony.

Speaker 2:

It's like watching yeah, Welcome to hey Watching with Dan and Tony. I'm Dan.

Speaker 1:

And I'm Tony.

Speaker 2:

This is the show that starts with us talking, continues with us talking and then finishes with us talking and it's longer than you think so strap in that last one was very long it was like hour 45.

Speaker 1:

That should never happen nobody should have to listen to us talk for almost two hours, almost as long as the movie.

Speaker 2:

So that should never happen. Nobody should have to listen to us talk for almost two hours, almost as long as the movie. So what we do on this show is we talk about a movie. The movie we're talking about this week is one that Tony picked out. It's a kid's movie.

Speaker 1:

It's a kid's movie. I know you don't like that, but it's a Father's Day movie. Happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there. We're recording this at an appropriate time. It will not air at an appropriate time, so I do apologize for my miscue there, but happy Father's Day everybody.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what's the?

Speaker 1:

movie. The movie is, of course, Getting Even with Dad. One of those classic dad movies with Ted Danson, Macaulay Culkin, who's like not quite a child anymore, and you know, borderline teen type of deal.

Speaker 2:

He's great. Nineteen ninety four an hour and forty eight minutes. What is this A year or two after? After Sleeping alone? What's that movie?

Speaker 1:

Sleeping alone Home alone, home alone, that's sleeping alone. Home alone, home Alone, that's what it is. Sleeping Alone, home Alone was 90. So four years Four years, so he's, but then I guess, oh, I wonder when Home. Alone 2 was 91, 92. 92 was Home Alone 2. So this is two years after Home Alone 2.

Speaker 2:

So he's got, he's rocking some hairdo, like you know, some teeny bopper hairdo.

Speaker 1:

It's a greaser.

Speaker 2:

Do you want to talk before we start about Ted Danson's comedic slash acting, slash chops?

Speaker 1:

Well, you know it's interesting, right? Because I haven't watched Cheers in a while. Yeah, but I feel like he was great on Cheers and then he's great now.

Speaker 2:

He played a very specific character on Cheers.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I guess. Yeah, Sam is pretty Sure.

Speaker 2:

Very much like held together. Okay, and the writing. The other thing you got to remember is the writing on Cheers.

Speaker 1:

Very good writing On point. Yeah, yeah, very, very good writing.

Speaker 1:

But, then I feel like now he's good too, right, like, uh, I loved becker, was it becker? Beckett? Becker, the doctor show, that was great. Um, the hell show is great, or haven't. No spoiler if you haven't seen it, don't. Heaven or hell, who knows. Um, the good place, the good place, thank you, thank you. So I mean, I think that I like him a lot. He's not very good in this movie. Um, comedically, I will say, you know, I think he's fine in like the heartfelt moments he does, okay, right, but he's never, he's not he's. You know, he doesn't have that zing, zing that this character seems to need, especially with his two dim-witted buffoon friends. They're all zany and bouncing off each other. It's very different movies when you're with those two than when you're with the main two. It's a weird movie.

Speaker 2:

So basically the premise is he's a criminal who's working on a big score. And his wife died, and so his sister or her sister.

Speaker 1:

Somebody's sister, it's his sister.

Speaker 2:

His sister was raising the kid. Not sure how that works legally.

Speaker 1:

Well, because he went to jail.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I mean, then we get out of jail. I mean I guess you make alliances for that when the person's in jail.

Speaker 1:

Maybe don't give the kid right back to the guy who got out of jail. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

So the kid gets dumped on him, and the kid wants him to be. His father gets dumped on him and the kid wants him to be his father. And so, to make this happen, the kid steals the money that they've stolen and then forces the dad to To hang out with him To hang out with him. I mean, what a lovely movie. We watched another movie. What was that other Blank Check.

Speaker 1:

Blank Check yeah.

Speaker 2:

That kid at least you bought that. He was living life. You know this kid's like let's go to art museums.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, what's interesting is that it's definitely written by like middle aged men, Right, it's just like oh, let's go to the ballpark, we'll go to a shopping mall, we'll uh, like they're not kid things. There's like I, I, yeah, you're absolutely right, the stuff that he buys in that movie, blank check, unbelievable. I would love to live there. I would love to do the thing, like the big boxing thing that he gets. That's, it's a very fun, like the kids having the time of his life, and I agree, I would love to live in that house. I don't want to do 90 of the things they do in this movie. I do not care.

Speaker 2:

And they, they sort of montage them in a way that they're just kind of like sort of wacky and sort of like, yeah, we're here's like a one minute montage of us spending some time. Well, we get to all the things, but it's it's. This isn't like a great experience. You know that he's, you know, going to the aquarium Look fish.

Speaker 1:

Yep Fish has lips. I don't know. I it's just. It doesn't make a lot of sense. I think the premise of this movie could be very fun. Sure, like we're like when you just explained it right there. It's like, yeah, he forces him to hang out with him and do all these kid things and they bond. That's cute. I could, I should cry, I should be crying at the end of this movie. Uh, spoiler alert I, I'm not, I do not care. It's tough. Um, one thing I would and I don't. I love Macaulay Culkin, so I'm not, I'm not saying anything bad about him, but I I have a hard time believing him as a child who's having fun, and I just think part of it is like maybe he didn't have a childhood and so he doesn't really know how to have fun like that so you're looking at him as the actor and he can't act the role of a child who's actually having fun, or I don't know the converse not having fun he he's very even.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that's not what you need here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's, he does never really seems that emotionally invested.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

In getting back with his dad, like when he at the end he's like I'm getting back on the train, you know on the bus and leaving, and he's like, yeah, well, that's what happened.

Speaker 1:

See you later.

Speaker 2:

That's what happened. All right, see you later. That's what happened. There we were. Well, one of the other kind of major threads of this film is that every character knows the plot of the movie. You know, it's like Macaulay Culkin's character at the end has, you know, staged how he wants it to all work out and he's not afraid that it's not going to work out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah no, he knows it's going to work out. He's all good. He's seen the future. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 2:

And then we have the female character that comes in like halfway through the movie and she, literally at every stage, just reiterates the exact one. Maybe this is exactly what's happening that I have no way of knowing. This is exactly what's happening that you know, that I?

Speaker 1:

have no way of knowing. This is exactly what's happening, but I can tell it's exactly. She's a very good detective, dan. Okay, she's picking up on clues that you don't see and she's on probation, you know, right, I didn't understand that. Did they say why she's on probation and what probation means? Because she's still doing the cop job, like she's still a detective? I don't understand.

Speaker 2:

I thought we were going to find out she was a criminal and so like to not become a criminal. She had to be a police officer, you know, on probation, I don't know. That, wasn't it?

Speaker 1:

They said a couple times that she's on probation. Then she wasn't at the end. He's like your probation's lifted. You can keep doing exactly what you've been doing the whole movie.

Speaker 2:

Great job, that was that was like my favorite part. So we start off. An old lady dies and she had a bunch of rare coins. These coins need to be appraised, and so ted danson and his two wise guy friends, like basically three New Yorkers that for some reason live in San Francisco but still think they're living in New York City.

Speaker 1:

Yep One million percent.

Speaker 2:

You know, wearing suits and looking like characters that are from a different movie. Yes, yeah 100%.

Speaker 1:

I love that. He says it's a $60 silk tie, by the way. I mean that's a regular tie now, Just regular ties I buy are like $60. If I bought a silk tie, oh my God, that would be like $200. You paid $60 for a tie. What do you pay for ties? I mean you got to get decent ties. I'm going to Macy's, I'm going to Express Men, you know.

Speaker 2:

I mean the only suit I have. Oh, I didn't buy my suit at Goodwill, did I?

Speaker 1:

No, we went to like I bought a suit at Goodwill.

Speaker 2:

I would definitely buy a suit at Goodwill. Oh no, I did buy a suit at Goodwill, Yep by a suit at Goodwill.

Speaker 1:

Yep, yep, I got it at Goodwill.

Speaker 2:

Oh, good for you. Also got my bathroom at Goodwill $19. Really, yeah, it's fairly terrible. The pocket's very small, dan.

Speaker 1:

I just have a question for you really quickly, because you bought essentially something that you wear naked at a place that's like used clothes. How do you? Feel about that. They were all brand new. Oh okay, you know what? I take it back. I apologize, I didn't know.

Speaker 2:

Yep, about 15 of them, all brand new. Okay, yeah, I don't think I'd buy a used.

Speaker 1:

No, it's my sister's boyfriend. One time they went and bought Halloween. They were buying their Halloween costume. So he went and bought a sweater from Goodwill Sure and didn't wash it and just like put it on and wore it home and we were all like, dude, get that, go watch that right now. That's weird. He didn't last very long. Oh, he's dead. He's not dead. He got dumped. No, he's not. Yeah, we killed him. We murdered him that night. Uh, he only made about two hours into trick-or-treating before we offed him there it is.

Speaker 2:

Um, so boom, they're smoking, they. Uh, and his, his plan is to, as they're leaving the, or they're leaving one place and going to the appraisers, I guess he's going, they're going to steal the gold coins. Yeah, somehow they know the exact path these gold coins are going to be taking. Okay, Um, he's a criminal. We set up that he has a girlfriend, sort of, but she gave him a plant and so he cut her off. And then then, as the movie goes on, we spend more and more time with this plant and we keep on the first half of the movie, we keep expecting nadine to show up.

Speaker 1:

Nadine never shows up, never shows up. There's. This is a throwaway gag that lasts the whole movie, which you know. You got to applaud that tenacity. I appreciate that, but what's the point?

Speaker 2:

Nadine has to do something at some point, right, I mean he should have just said once you put a name on a character, we're expecting that character to be something. He should have just said remember that one girlfriend you had that gave you that plant. And then he looks over at that plant disdainfully and he's like, yeah, I got rid of her, but somehow I can't get rid of that plant. You gotta go to something like that, where we don't think she's gonna walk in the door later on in the movie because that sits in the audience's brain.

Speaker 1:

Because I mean they bring her up four or five times, like when the new girl comes in he's like oh, nadine gave him this plant, but he can't give it Like who cares? Who cares where the plant came from, guys, I don't understand.

Speaker 1:

I mean I feel like the only reason the plant is in the movie is because at one point someone wrote the scene where the plant falls out of the window and almost hits the woman and they're like, well, where would he get a plant? This guy wouldn't have a plant on his own. I bet he got it from an ex-girlfriend.

Speaker 2:

That was one of the only almost good jokes was about the plant being murdered. Right, Wasn't there a decent joke right there?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah almost good jokes was about the plant being murdered. Right, wasn't there a decent joke right there? Yeah, yeah, there's a. There's a couple of good plant jokes. Maybe someone was just obsessed with plant jokes because I also enjoy just the bit where he's like once a woman gives you something to take care of, you gotta run away. That's it. The relationship's over.

Speaker 2:

It's a good character moment, but you know just skip her name, just skip her name, name and don't bring it up four or five times.

Speaker 1:

I know Nadine's name. I don't know the main detective lady's name, teresa. Ah, teresa. Now I remember Ted Danson does say it. No, you're right.

Speaker 2:

And she might have a different name. That might be a fake name that he gives her. She gives to him, I don't. It seemed like someone else called her a different name at one point.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so maybe like her real cop name might not be. That's her undercover character name. Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

There was. There was someone seemed to call her Hector Elizondo, I think. At one point I thought called her a different name. Maybe he called her by her last name, I don't know so he's a cake.

Speaker 1:

I mean, we don't know.

Speaker 2:

He's a cake decorator and he learned cake decorating in prison and basically he wants the money from the job so he can open his own bakery.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what a weird little storyline that is. Huh. I mean, he's like I took a class in the joint and now it's my absolute passion in life. Okay, that's great.

Speaker 2:

He also wears his hair. He has a terrible ponytail which is not real.

Speaker 1:

Right, it's fake. You think it's real. You think he grew this?

Speaker 2:

No it's fake, totally fake. All his hair is fake.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, that's what I thought. I thought it was total. When it's up you can't really tell, but the one scene in the movie that he has it down it's like normal hair normal hair and then like a poof.

Speaker 2:

And it's definitely just woven in there. What are you going to do? So here we meet Timmy, who's Macaulay Culkin's character's name the Timmy thing.

Speaker 1:

Weird name.

Speaker 2:

Very painful name, very, very painful name. He's there with a character actor and his aunt and he's being obnoxious, and Is he All he's?

Speaker 1:

doing is filming in the back seat and this guy's just yelling, the kid's not doing anything until he gets on the seat, which is another thing we have to talk about, because they're in a convertible and he is not wearing a seatbelt and McCauley just sits on the back of the top of the seat, and then he could fall out of this car so easily. The 90s were a wild time.

Speaker 2:

They're getting away with stuff and it's a vintage car and it's just like they're really spending a bunch of time investing in these characters. And he's making a science fiction movie which is never carried through None of what is happening here because he spills a Coke. None of it is never carried through. That, just none of it. None of what is happening here, because he spills a coke.

Speaker 1:

It's none of it is getting carried through and it's not really building character for mccauley in my opinion, because he's not super annoying when he goes to live with ted danson, then you know he's just manipulative and blackmailing him, which is a very different scenario.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so maybe he should have been manipulating this guy, maybe he should have been blackmailing this guy you know, go full Curly Sue on his ass.

Speaker 1:

Curly Sue is a different movie. I don't know this movie, curly.

Speaker 2:

Sue is like it's a little girl. Similar time period. I don't know what the plot of Curly Sue is. It's a little girl.

Speaker 1:

Similar time period. I don't know what the plot of Curly Sue is, so you're just throwing stuff out there for reference sake. I love it. So, our two bad guys are Carl and Bob, and then Ted's character's name is Ray.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, Setting up the coin job. We make a comment about the job they screwed up is. They stole a bunch of VCRs, but they stole beta instead of VHS.

Speaker 1:

Right, ha ha, I thought maybe there was going to be more to that. And then they got four years in prison for that, doesn't that? Feel a little extreme? No, probably no, you don't think so. For beta machines grand theft you know that's grand theft okay, I thought, oh, I guess grand theft auto is car, so grand theft can mean anything grand theft is a certain level of stealing. It's like like I did not know this yeah, grand theft is a very specific number.

Speaker 2:

I don't know the number 10 000, just something that came to my mind.

Speaker 1:

You know for all the things that grand theft auto, the video game, teaches you.

Speaker 2:

That's not one of them beating people with stuff, hitting pedestrians yep running people over killing randos.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I've learned a lot from these games, but I did not know that Grand Theft is a level of crime and not just a blanket stealing car. Grand Theft Auto Interesting stuff.

Speaker 2:

I know a lot of stuff, Tony.

Speaker 1:

Way to go. Rockstar Games, jeez Louise.

Speaker 2:

So, boom Kitty, the sister appears at the door. It's like I just got married. I need a honeymoon. Take Timmy. Timmy's like hi, dad. And then they have this schmaltzy piano music and they stare at each other. And then she's like I had this kid for three years. I'll be back on Saturday and Timmy pulls out his itinerary. I've got an itinerary of all the things we'll do the aquarium when did he make this itinerary?

Speaker 1:

damn, because this car in the beginning where the three of them are driving, mccauley and the two parents he shouldn't be working on it. Yeah where are they going? Aren't they just going to drop him off at the house right now? Okay, it's just, it's just very confusing to me then they're going to vegas yeah, I get that part.

Speaker 1:

I know they're going on their honeymoon or whatever, but the dad is like, not the dad, but the man in that couple is like we shouldn't have brought him, but that you're only bringing him to drop him off so you can leave him. I don't know, it's all confusing to me.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't matter, let's go back to the movie maybe the new husband wanted like induce a coma, and so then he would have been in a coma he'll be fine for a week or two in bed. Don't worry, it's just a coma uh, timmy like pulls out a photo. He's like here, dad, here's a picture of me and mom, and it's him at the grave it's really fucked up.

Speaker 1:

I just it's really weird. Um, I don't yeah, not much else to say, I just that took me by a bit of a shock. I was like, holy shit, this kid's messed up.

Speaker 2:

This kid's messed up. Deep shit right at grave side. Oh grave side oh um he, he explains that he's super smart. Uh, pissed off that dad never wrote. And then he's like we'll work around it, like huh what? Ted Danson's like I gotta go, stay out of trouble. He looks through the apartment. He finds the article about the coins with a big circle mark on it and he's like hmm, I wonder if I'll watch a newscast about the actual crime later on in the day. No, I don't think so. The Heist.

Speaker 1:

Cool music. I like the bass line that they had rocking while they were doing the heist.

Speaker 2:

They distract the guards. They spray cayenne pepper in their faces. They tie them up, they drill the box. They put the stuff in the guards. They spray cayenne pepper in their faces, they tie them up, they drill the box. They put the stuff in the thing. Then they slide down the garbage chute and then drive away in broad daylight with no one away. Doing nothing In this building in the middle of the day. They do all of this.

Speaker 1:

You skipped two very important things here, dan. The middle of the day they do all of this. You skipped two very important things here, dan. First, the guys who are bringing the coins up the building. The elevator doors open and they go oh, I guess we're stuck on this floor, let's walk the rest of the way up. It's just an ele. It just got off on the wrong floor. Just push the button and close the doors again. Guys, that's how elevators work. You're not stuck on this floor. What does that mean? So I don't. Those guys are bad at their jobs. That's all that we need to talk about here. They're very bad at their jobs. They think they're stuck because the elevator stopped short because someone pushed a button. Maybe our elevators new in the 90s?

Speaker 1:

I guess, I don't really remember. He said two things. I think I said two things, all right. Well, here's the second thing, dan, oh the joke, it was the joke that I was going to bring up about. Ted Danson takes the walkie because there's a guy downstairs as well, checking on his teammates, like hey guys, where are you at? You're taking a long time and dancing. The mastermind ray goes I'm taking a dump. And then the guy's like where's your partner? He's like, yeah, he's taking a dump too. And the guy goes you're both taking a dump at the same time. That's against regulation and I just laughed really hard at that.

Speaker 2:

Tony was like imagining the regulation book.

Speaker 1:

Somebody's making a list. They both could definitely not take a dump at the same time. No number twos, it's a single system you got to trade off.

Speaker 2:

So back at the thing. Macaulay Culkin sees the newscast and is like, hmm, I wonder they stop at a phone booth.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was just going to say 95th percentile.

Speaker 2:

He's very smart, very smart. They call the fence. The fence says, oh, I don't have the money, call me in six days, okay. Timmy then videotapes them out the window where they're coming in with a bag. Then he watches them as they hide it on the roof.

Speaker 1:

This video camera that he's got, by the way, is like military grade. Oh you mean the level of the zoom on that thing is unbelievable.

Speaker 2:

And he's watching at the door and then one of the guys thinks he's there, and then Macaulay like and he park. And then one of the guys thinks he's there, and then Macaulay like and he parkours and then slips under the thing. It was actually a good stunt. Yeah, and it was him, wasn't it?

Speaker 1:

I mean, listen, that's the beauty of movies, right, it certainly looked like him, but I have no way of knowing.

Speaker 2:

Okay, they go to the bar, he tells. He tells them he was gonna spend his money to open the bakery. Of course timmy, at this point, just goes right up there, steals the coins, takes the coins, hides the coins, sends a videotape of all the evidence to like some unknown friend that he's got a call every night, even though we only see him call him once, and has to give him a rotating password that that never comes into play again so so that what does that mean I'm giving?

Speaker 1:

because he's giving him the rotating password in front of the guys that are trying to steal it.

Speaker 2:

Well, he ostensibly would have written out a list of passwords. These this is the password that means I'm I it. Well, he ostensibly would have written out a list of passwords. This is the password that means I'm in trouble. This is the password that means I need help on Thursday. They're all new ones the next day. He's going to remember If you tell me a number 74. It's just out of my brain within seconds.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to check at the end of the show. I'll remember that one because you said it to me.

Speaker 2:

Because you said it to me, I'm writing it down right now.

Speaker 1:

Dan, If you don't remember the number at the end of the episode, not much is going to happen. If I had a list of seven passwords for seven days.

Speaker 2:

It would never happen. I mean I'd have to make a mnemonic. I thought, oh, I could make a mnemonic for it.

Speaker 1:

You know what a mnemonic is Every good boy does fine. That's music. Roy G Biv Sure yeah, also that.

Speaker 2:

Okay, okay. Then he basically tells them what's going on and they're all like I'll kill him.

Speaker 1:

no, I'll kill him, yeah I question about that because they do threaten to kill him or, um, I don't know, leather jacket, I can't remember his name. It's like I'm gonna kill him. What would that accomplish? Nothing. But I do like when he starts taking off his belt. He starts taking off his belt, he starts taking off his belt and he's like my dad would have whooped me and that's what I'm going to do to you, and I was like that's funny, I could see that happening, been there, done that, took the picture.

Speaker 2:

It's funny because it's true. And so, ben, he's basically like here's my itinerary. You have to pretend like you, like me, and I'm sleeping in your bed and you're on the couch. That's kind of funny. That's kind of funny, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, again, premise wise, I agree with it. I think that we should do a remake of this movie. I think it would be a smash hit.

Speaker 2:

So they had part of the argument in a bathroom and then there was a wino outside who heard the whole thing, and so then the wino somehow goes to the cops and the cops basically, um, now have the names bob and ray, and now the lady cop is like oh, I looked, just figures it up, just figures it out, it's these two people specifically yeah, how about I go?

Speaker 2:

how about we go watch them? And the boss is like let's do? No, actually, this is what the boss is like, that's a terrible idea. One second later okay, do it, okay go for it gang.

Speaker 1:

That's always my favorite.

Speaker 2:

So he calls the, Ted Danson calls the bakery, says I'm taking some time off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's very good, by the way, in the bakery.

Speaker 2:

It didn't seem like the same bakery any of the times that we went to the bakery at the different times.

Speaker 1:

I don't think I was paying enough attention.

Speaker 2:

To be honest with you the one time he's in the bakery, it just seems like it's him there. Then we get the front of the bakery and there's like a kind of Italian guy running it. Then we have another shot of the back of the bakery and there's like 20 people working oh, yeah, no, you're right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I don't know. That doesn't make any sense really, but that explains why it was so easy for him to get time off.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

When it's just him working there, I was very surprised.

Speaker 2:

I'm like whoa, he's getting time off, weird. Okay, so the kid doesn't let him smoke in the car. The cops are following them. They go to the aquarium hey Bobby, look fish. And then of course, fish is an octopus. Octopus isn't a fish, octopus is a cephalopod. And then they ask a guy and he's like that's a cephalopod.

Speaker 1:

And everybody's like oh, Macaulay Culkin is smart, 95th percentile baby they go to the game.

Speaker 2:

It's bat day. What yes For more fish comments.

Speaker 1:

No, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, let's go to bat day. You go to bat day Because it leads into it.

Speaker 2:

They have bat days. The one guy comes, he puts the food. The big dumb guy puts the ice cream sandwich underneath the hot food and it's like it's still still cold. And the guy's like I'm going for my own food. And then he trips on all the bats and falls down concrete stairs yeah, so this is like the first of the slapstick physical comedy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that comes out of nowhere every time, like it's always weird. It always feels inorganic, out of place and there's no reason for it in this movie. Yes, I don't understand. Help me, just explain to me why it's in the movie. Because Home Alone? Is that? Because that's where my head went. I was like are they just trying to capitalize on Home Alone and doing a terrible job.

Speaker 2:

Terrible.

Speaker 1:

That's a bummer.

Speaker 2:

Someone I know on like Instagram or Facebook.

Speaker 1:

One of them, I think Instagram, social media.

Speaker 2:

Fell down concrete stairs. Posted pictures of what happened to her. Couldn't look at the pictures. It was so horrible.

Speaker 1:

I mean, my wife fell down one stair, not even a bunch of stairs. She fell down one stair and bruised horribly. For two weeks she was like I can barely walk on it. So if I'm falling down three flights of stone steps, I'm probably not getting up now. But I do have a question are you, are you, a baseball guy at all? You're probably not. I watch a little bit of baseball you know it's not watching.

Speaker 1:

I'm curious on bat day if, if in the 90s it really was full-size bats, because nowadays they give you like the mini bats that are like this big and adorable. These were full-size wooden bats and everybody got them. That is so expensive for bat day I don't believe, I don't.

Speaker 2:

I maybe in the 40s or something, or the 50s, maybe there was full-size bat days but I don't, I don't buy that.

Speaker 1:

I feel like someone just knows that there is a bat day and in their head they were like everyone just gets a giant bat right. I don't know yeah, because I don't believe for a second. I don't, I don't think that's right.

Speaker 2:

There would be a lot of bats out there in the world from that so many. There's so many bats, introducing 50 000,000 bats into a stadium a couple times a year.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's not just one time right, it's multiple games in the year. I don't know that's wild.

Speaker 2:

We used to go to basketball games and we still have Elton Brand bobblehead. They gave out a lot of that shit. I love that A lot of it. Okay, they go fishing.

Speaker 1:

They go to the museum.

Speaker 2:

I love that A lot of it. Okay, they go fishing, they go to the museum, they go to the Natural History Museum. You know where they have the animal things. And then Bobby has a fantasy moment where Macaulay Culkin's character is in one of the dioramas. It's in the endangered species.

Speaker 1:

It's the endangered species diorama. So he's in his mind, he's envisioning that he's, which is weird because technically he is an endangered species. He's one of one, right Like he's gone and he's gone forever. I don't, it's so weird. Just like with the slapstick comedy. It doesn't fit the rest of the movie at all. It's so awkward and macaulay's on all fours and like drinking out of a fake pond. I think right is he like? I don't know, that's fucking weird man. It is weird.

Speaker 2:

You're just like what you guys. Didn't have anything else to happen at the museum, so we needed a fantasy scene we need.

Speaker 1:

they needed one quote unquote joke at each of the places that they go, and they're all terrible.

Speaker 2:

We didn't have one at the fishing, did we?

Speaker 1:

Oh, we sure did, because the two Goombas are fishing, the fat one is fishing, he goes back and he catches the other guy with the lure of somewhere it doesn't really show where, and he's like oh, you got me, you got me. You know, hilarious fishing stuff.

Speaker 2:

Okay, oh, and then Bobby follows him into the bathroom is gonna do anything, and then he switches, and so Bobby goes into like another kid's thing and sees the kid peeing and he's like Dad. This man's watching me pee and then punch in theeing. And he's like Dad, this man's watching me pee and then punch in the face and then leave.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm going to tell you right now, dan, this is the 90s, that's the 90s, okay, because if that happens today, I'm knocking the guy out, I'm calling the police, I'm tying him up and that guy's going to prison. Okay, that is a pedophile, and he's going away for good. But no, no, they just kind of hit him and it's a huge joke. It's just a really funny joke that some creepy guy's watching some kid. Be all right pedophilia solve punch.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god. They go ice skating and then the lady cop is watching and she falls in love with Ted Danson Right then and there.

Speaker 1:

How? Why I must have missed something, because he's not very charming.

Speaker 2:

Ice skating.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I've never seen anyone Ice skate before. This is unbelievable.

Speaker 2:

The next day we go to the amusement park, we ride on the corkscrew, we make a music video, carl.

Speaker 1:

This is the one I want to talk about, the music video. Then they go to Raging Waters.

Speaker 2:

Then they go to Miniature Golf. At the Miniature Golf, Hold on.

Speaker 1:

What? What we got to talk about? The music video.

Speaker 2:

I'm losing you a little bit, tony, are you?

Speaker 1:

losing me. We got to talk about the music video, Dan. What did the music video say about the?

Speaker 2:

music video Tony.

Speaker 1:

Because this is what concerns me About Macaulay Culkin. Tell me what concerns you, I mean obviously we know how it turned out and it's not great. He's not able to do this scene very well.

Speaker 1:

He's not able to just like have fun singing a song. He's so stiff. Well, he's not able to just like have fun singing a song, he's so stiff and he's not like you should just be like bouncing around and having fun and he just he doesn't have that. I don't think he had a childhood and it's it's like it's heartbreaking in this, in this one scene for me, and I was just yeah, yeah, I don't know it. Really it bummed me out because he's not just having a good time like a kid should be in this scene, and it made me think of Blank Check and I was like that kid is always having a good time, like that actor is having a blast on set, playing with toys, just goofing around, and there's none of that here and it's very sad to me.

Speaker 2:

When you put the stupid Blake check kid character in a go cart riding around, he's having fun he's having the time of his life. He's having a great day I guess, we have to find some interviews with children who watched this movie when it was uh new, you know at that time and see how they felt. They felt like I wish I had his life that's I mean.

Speaker 1:

That would be. Yeah, that would be interesting. I wish I remembered, because I would have been what. Eight when I saw this, I can't do math. Nine when did this come out? 94, 94, 85, no, I was like 9, 10 so I was like right, right, that age. I don't remember this whatsoever.

Speaker 2:

There you go. You don't you remember blank check though, right.

Speaker 1:

I do remember blank check, love blank check. Still to this day, 10 out of 10 movie right there.

Speaker 2:

Now, did you have either of these on videotape?

Speaker 1:

I don't know if we did. I know I've seen it, which is why I was like, oh yeah, I've heard of that one, but it's not one that I would have rewatched over and over, you know.

Speaker 2:

Got it.

Speaker 1:

So it did not leave an impression on me, unlike Richie. Rich, remember that one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you watched that one tons as a kid.

Speaker 1:

Watched that and then you know blank check obviously.

Speaker 2:

So there were definitely movies of this time period that you would have seen as a kid and you'd have logged into your brain like this is a movie I need to watch again. A hundred percent, a hundred percent. Yeah, this isn't one of them, not this one, okay. So they they say uh, we're gonna play miniature golf. If you win, I give you the coins. If I win, you gotta take me to baskin robbinsbins. Not really an upgrade, nope.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I do love Baskin Robbins, yeah, okay, how many flavors? There's like a billion flavors. What? 28 flavors? What is that? I don't remember what it is 31 flavors, but okay 31 flavors. I missed three times there.

Speaker 2:

I'm so sorry. That's the number that they generally advertise.

Speaker 1:

But I love Baskin Robbins and I love the flavor of the month. You know like they do fun stuff. But that's not a fair trade.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's just, he could just demand that anyways.

Speaker 1:

It should just be on the list already. If we're being honest, that should just be the next tick on the list.

Speaker 2:

So Dan's just doing good, but then he slips in there. Ah, you know about pirates when they hide their treasure, they write a treasure map. He says that to the stupid guy Carl.

Speaker 1:

It's pretty funny how easy it is to manipulate that. I do like that. It's funny that this kid outsmarts them and manipulates them like that. It's great.

Speaker 2:

That was the one nice piece of manipulation in the whole movie.

Speaker 2:

You're like oh, I see, Okay, that's a precursor to something that's actually kind of interesting. Ted Danson hooks the shot, they lose, they figure out about the map, and so they're all like, why don't you just leave us at the apartment and you kids, you crazy kids, go get uh the thing, uh, and it was also his plan. So it was his plan to get himself alone for ted dancing with the rest of the movies, and we don't have to deal with those idiots for the rest of the movie, for the most part well, we do.

Speaker 1:

We do cutaways for no reason, we're just following them for no reason.

Speaker 2:

Well, at least he gets his relationship. So they find the map. We all know that the map is. You know, take 20 steps to here there. We know it's completely fake. We don't know how that kid could have made that whole map but whatever the 95th percentile. Baskin-robbins. He basically says um, you're just gonna get caught and he had to spend his whole life lying to his friends and it's embarrassing that his dad is a felon.

Speaker 1:

You're embarrassing to me yeah, uh, would you have felt that way, tan? I often think about this because this is like a running. A running theme in children's in in media is like I'm ashamed of my father who's in prison, absolutely, oh, okay, interesting. I feel like I would have owned that shit, like I would have probably lied about why he's in prison. I wouldn't have been, I wouldn't have said, yeah, I mean, he stole some stuff and it's too dumb, so he got caught. I'd probably say something cooler, you know, but I don't think I'd be ashamed that he's in prison. I don't know, I don't know because kids are weird, so I guess I don't know how I feel, but right now I wouldn't feel that way.

Speaker 1:

I'd have a hard time with it, yeah no, well, I'm glad he wasn't then, dan, because I have a soul, Tony. What a waste.

Speaker 2:

You know what I?

Speaker 1:

mean what a bunch of garbage.

Speaker 2:

So then the two cops, you know, there's a male cop and a lady cop, and the male cop's, like, for some reason, tells her that she doesn't dress hot enough.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's exactly what he says. He calls her like a meter maid or something says he dresses like a meter maid and she should dress like more attractive like her, the rest of women, her age or something I I don't know.

Speaker 2:

It's really weird, she's fair she dresses fairly attractively and she could I mean she, she, you know sort of glams it up a little more. But it's not like she's, it's not like your transformation sort of we're not.

Speaker 1:

She's all thatting it right yeah, it's really weird.

Speaker 2:

It's just like another weird point. Um, what is this critics? Oh, okay, so they're, they're going out. It's the next day. We're just just soloing. The two guys are soloing, the other guys are all following the map. We're not going to talk about that plot line, because it's terrible.

Speaker 1:

It is terrible, it's bizarre. It's weird. It should just be cut out of the movie entirely.

Speaker 2:

He gets him a new toothbrush. As they're walking. He critiques other people's cakes in the window, like you do. Then they go to play basketball.

Speaker 1:

And then Well before basketball Dan.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I think the nicest moment of the whole movie is right before basketball, when they race to the corner and he's like I'll race to the corner. Macaulay starts. He's like no, no, no, no, wait, okay, go. And that's like the most genuine ted danson moment of the whole movie and it was very. If the rest of their interactions were that like cute and innocent, I would buy the movie and then the writers stepped in and we get this next scene.

Speaker 2:

They're playing the basketball and he's giving him some stuff. And then we have two aerobic super hot girls jog through the middle of the place which they never would jog.

Speaker 1:

No, you can't. You shouldn't be cutting across the basketball court. You would get yelled at every time.

Speaker 2:

And he catcalls them and is rude and horrible. And, of course, the, the lady cop across street who's in love with him sees all this seems to think that it's charming somehow and then he's like I'm gonna teach you how to pick up girls, and then they at 11. They role play and it's fucking weird it's super weird.

Speaker 1:

He puts the basketball under a shirt like one giant uniboob. It's it's all weird.

Speaker 2:

I don't know it was not it, you know, he that should have been the moment where he, like, talks about the mom and has a real conversation yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm okay with that, I'm good with it. We've got the two other bozos doing the comedy. You can just leave it over there and let them have some real nice grounded coming together moments so that the movie means something.

Speaker 2:

This is your point where that has to start.

Speaker 1:

Or they choose not to.

Speaker 2:

He goes to call the fence and then Macaulay Culkin, the ball, rolls into the street. Does he chase it or does he not chase?

Speaker 1:

it, he starts to chase it, he takes like a couple steps and then the lady panics.

Speaker 2:

She freaks out and then she goes across the street and now we're, we're, we're, a throuple where the, the two, boys and the girl and they just everyone. He, he just sees her as like this is the woman who needs to be with my dad for no reason whatsoever, no reason at all dad. For no reason whatsoever, no reason at all. Ah she, he's like nice scarf. Where'd you get?

Speaker 1:

it and she's like sears. That was so weird. That was so weird.

Speaker 2:

Well, you don't like sears, dan like I don't know, man, it's just. And then he's like you should go to coffee with us. And he's like, okay, then we go to the coffee shop. And then they're like what do you do? She's like I'm a kindergarten teacher. I think kids are special. Okay, let's now go to a museum right. Right.

Speaker 1:

She's like that's enough conversation, let's go somewhere else.

Speaker 2:

I've got a dental appointment. Let me call, and she calls the police station. I'm going on the thing. I killed a man, yeah, then they go to the museum and then Macaulay's like she's nice. Are you ready to marry her yet? And he basically says yes and then ted danson is charming, teaching his kid about the art of franz klein and pointillism was he right, by the way?

Speaker 2:

because I don't know anything about anything and I was just like, okay, I'll listen uh, I don't believe either of those paintings would have been in that museum sure um, but that was a franz klein, that was a Cyril Pointillist painting, I mean great you know, his, you know, and he's like by the cellmate who was a forger, then he does a whole.

Speaker 1:

I don't like cops Out of nowhere and you're like, oh, he knows, she's a cop, that's what you think Because there's no catalyst for him to talk about why he doesn't like cops, other than he would know that she he's. He has an inkling that she's a cop, but he doesn't. He just hates them so much, dan, that that's all he can talk about but he says it like, in, like a.

Speaker 1:

You know, I hate cops, yeah yep, just nonchalant, just that's just one of the many interesting things about me is I hate cops. What about now you go, dan, so weird.

Speaker 2:

I hate the IRS. Okay, the bad guys continue looking for the stuff. The one guy gets in the dumpster, the dumpster gets dumped into the trash truck, his other friend's busy eating a hot dog Doesn't even think to go. Hey, bobby trash truck coming down. You're going to die.

Speaker 1:

But also I don't know if you've ever been around. When a trash truck comes down the street, Dan, you can pretty much hear it from two blocks away.

Speaker 2:

He was trapped in there because those wooden things fell shut.

Speaker 1:

Is that what it was? He's just trapped.

Speaker 2:

He's taking a nap. It was so comfortable in the trash.

Speaker 1:

can you know what this is actually?

Speaker 2:

pretty nice. He should have ridden out the back and then gone into the next trash. Can. There you go, love that Love that Unfrosted Tim then goes and buys her the same perfume that her dead mom wears. Let's go to dinner. You like italian, of course I like it. You know that's like the ultimate question let's go to dinner. What do you like? Well, let's. Do you like italian? Do you think there's a person that's like no, fuck, fuck italian.

Speaker 1:

I really don't like pasta at all they should have got.

Speaker 2:

I mean, there's a bigger red flag than the plant they're in san francisco, they should go for um chinese rice aroni. What was it? Chinese? There's so many chinese restaurants oh, is that, oh really?

Speaker 1:

oh, san francisco, oh yeah, I think, I think a lot of the best restaurants in the country are in.

Speaker 2:

What was it Chinese? There's so many Chinese restaurants. Oh, is that, oh, really.

Speaker 1:

Oh San.

Speaker 2:

Francisco.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I think a lot of the best Chinese restaurants in the country are in San Francisco, oh yeah. Are you kidding me? I go there all the time and I've never gotten Chinese food. I mean, I mostly just eat Taco Bell while I'm up there. But I'll get Chinese food next time. There's a hope that I think it's.

Speaker 2:

I think it's called chinatown there. It might have some different name, but there's a chinatown but it's it's. A lot of the places are very, very popular, very hard to get into because there's some. You know, they're always back because they're fucking all right, have been there for a hundred years and they're I'll find, like the b?

Speaker 1:

tier, chinese food in San Francisco and I'll try that.

Speaker 2:

The idiots are still looking for the thing following the map and they're like the map is fake. And then the other guy's like no, look, there's a cross on the church. And so then they go and think it's in the church and then they steal the donation box and then they get arrested and put in jail.

Speaker 1:

Well, he gets caught on fire um which is great. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't know this, it's dumb so theresa is getting ready for the date, the big date. She puts on her beautiful dress and they play fairy tale music. And you're like what I know.

Speaker 1:

It's all weird. This relationship's very weird. It's very rushed and I listen, I think people deserve second chances, right for the most part. But if you're single woman, you just met a guy and on day one he's like I just got out of prison not too long ago. Maybe don't go and spend the whole day with him, maybe and I'm not trying to pass judgment Well, she's.

Speaker 2:

What you're really saying is don't just fall in love with him. Yes, yes. Supposedly she's spending the time to try to figure it out. But the truth is, we know she's spending the time to try to figure it out, but the truth is we know she's in love with him at the ice rink.

Speaker 1:

Since the ice rink, she's completely in love with him. Yeah, like hour two of her tail in this guy. She fell in love with him. That's bad.

Speaker 2:

The interesting thing is, in 94, Ted Danson, probably one of the 10 most handsome men in America.

Speaker 1:

Sure yeah.

Speaker 2:

In 2024, that's our year. Now I look back on him and I'm like he's not very attractive.

Speaker 1:

No, I mean, he's not ugly, but he's certainly not like a sex symbol, right, and I guess I'm wrong, cause he for sure was absolutely. But no like. If that, if that person was here now, he wouldn't be.

Speaker 2:

He would not be in any top 10 list ever. He wouldn't be anywhere near that.

Speaker 1:

How old is he Dan?

Speaker 2:

100.

Speaker 1:

100. I mean, in this movie he's probably what like 30?, oh no no no 30, 35. Okay, he just looks like a 50-year-old man to me. He's so mature. It's weird, it's not good, I don't know. I'm going to look it up.

Speaker 2:

In Cheers you can kind of feel like he's a young guy, but he also, you know he felt like he ate. You know he felt like ate. You know he felt like, as cheers went along, that he was a guy that was dating 19 year olds and he was very old right, that's your feeling about that 100. He still knows how to get 19 year olds, but it's.

Speaker 1:

It started to get weird okay, he was born in 47. So 94, 40. He was 47?.

Speaker 2:

He was 47. Okay, so that makes sense. Oh my God, he's so old.

Speaker 1:

He's older than you, let him think Okay, that's good to know.

Speaker 2:

He was old, he's old, we're all old.

Speaker 1:

He was old. I mean, yeah, we're old people.

Speaker 2:

They go out to dinner, they have a night walk. They confess they make out.

Speaker 1:

Yep, yep, the buddies are in jail.

Speaker 2:

Teresa talks to the boss and he's all like. The boy knows where the coins is and he's manipulating them to try to get their dad to do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much spot on.

Speaker 2:

Ray is in the next morning. Ray is happy about his life, he's happy about the kid, he's happy about his toothbrush. Timmy is watching these videos of the guys getting, uh, getting nostalgic for the days that they've lived which is just what day?

Speaker 1:

do you think this is day three, day four, day three, he's already nostalgic remember when bad day right, I mean, and they show clips of things we didn't have in the movie.

Speaker 2:

100%.

Speaker 1:

The director's cut of this movie Is an extra 20 minutes.

Speaker 2:

Ray's like gotta go to work, so he goes to work, just to actually go to work. I was like where's he going?

Speaker 1:

He's like just go to work. He's gotta fill in for somebody decorating cakes.

Speaker 2:

Kid looks out the window, boom, the cops are outside.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, and he recognizes cops.

Speaker 2:

He recognizes cops? Yeah, he's very smart. They look a certain way. So he takes off and then he uses cable car and then the underground, and then giving someone else's clothes and gets away.

Speaker 1:

I mean, the kid is like a spy, he's a super spy, Harriet the spy oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 2:

It's the next night. Oh no, rigg gets a call while at work. Tonight is the night. Go get the coins. They let the guys out of jail. For what reason, we'll never know. Yep, macaulay Culkin. He comes back and he's all like okay, dad, I'm going to give you the key it's me or the coins.

Speaker 1:

And then he yells at the kid and he says hateful hateful things yeah.

Speaker 1:

That was after he gave him the key. Well, yeah, because he's like if you go, then I'm'm leaving. If you use the key, I'm leaving, because now the power is back in ted's hands or the choice is back in his hands, but if he makes the wrong choice, macaulay's still gonna leave he's like I want both things, I want the money and I want you, but you're a fucking little piece of shit for making me have to decide between you and the money.

Speaker 2:

It's just like. It's so hateful and like you say, mccauley's just like, yeah, just just chill, it's like okay I know it's gonna work. I know you're gonna pick me. I know you're gonna pick me. So uh yells at him. He throws the plant out, almost kills theresa, the plant, and then they go to the bus station. At the bus station he gets the ticket as McCauley's leaving. He's like thanks for teaching me how to pick up girls. Beat, btw, I don't need a hug, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Weird moment.

Speaker 2:

And then Ted's going over there and he's like he's got the key in his hand. He's all like shoot, the keys were not the key. And then the cops are all watching.

Speaker 1:

They're like don't do anything until you open the thing, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then he runs back and runs for the kid they hug. And then Bobby shows up and Bobby's got a gun and he pulls out the gun. He's like go get me those.

Speaker 1:

And he's super shaky. Why is he so nervous? He carries a gun. It's not like he found a gun and is now going to use it for the first time. Ostensibly, this guy uses a gun all the time. Why is he so nervous?

Speaker 2:

I don't know man, Because he's pulling a gun in the middle of a busy bus station, as if no one will see the gun.

Speaker 1:

Sure, I mean that would be pretty scary.

Speaker 2:

They pull out the money, pull out the gold, and then it turns out that it's not the gold, it's a bunch of pennies. It's the pennies that were in Ted Dance's apartment that they set up in Act One.

Speaker 1:

Great stuff.

Speaker 2:

Great writing.

Speaker 1:

Great writing, guys Kudos.

Speaker 2:

I was a little surprised.

Speaker 1:

Sure, no, it was great, Great move.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, good move. Um, so let's see what happens. Uh, so they arrest Bobby for having the gun. I guess, and they're like get me the coins back and then, and then they do. They get him the coins back and then they see her at the. Because he hid them in the. He moved them to a bag inside a department store, so they just go get them out of the bag.

Speaker 1:

How he did that, I have no idea.

Speaker 2:

He just walked in there and switched them out.

Speaker 1:

Great, great. I mean you're telling me the thing didn't have any of those, like those buzzer anti-theft devices.

Speaker 2:

He just poured the gold coins into the other bag.

Speaker 1:

Oh, wow, okay, I see. Okay, great, great, great. He had multiples of those bags, I guess, so Lots of bags.

Speaker 2:

So they see the girl and they're all like, oh, we should be in love. And then he's all like, well, maybe in a couple of years.

Speaker 1:

Because you just arrested me. Okay, great, great. I kind of like that they don't end up together, that's, you know. Good for them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean, we wasted 30 minutes of the movie trying to get them together. But that's great. It's great that they don't end up there.

Speaker 1:

And then he's like let's go shoot hoops and pick up girls, because you know he's single again, because he just broke up with the police woman. So it's great. I don't know what to say. I mean this isn't a terrible movie. Yeah, I mean this is just one of those movies that's like. It's like supposed to be heartfelt and there's just zero heart, so there's not much to it. You know, it's just like it just all kind of happens and everyone's just kind of okay. Yeah, great, what's next?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, everybody's getting a paycheck. They're putting out another Macaulay Culkin movie. It's not offensive, but it's also not good. It's not not funny, but it's not funny, it's just like right down the middle of the road it goes out there it makes enough money to cover the expenses and to cover the advertising. Did it? I mean I assume it did.

Speaker 1:

I have no idea. I hope it did.

Speaker 2:

And nobody got fired. This is Hollywood. Do we have this Hollywood anymore?

Speaker 1:

No, Because now I mean but in Hollywood's defense. Now we make 100,000 movies, so everyone means a little bit more. Because we are out of money, we are spending all of our money. We need all that money back.

Speaker 2:

But I mean, you don't just make like a movie that you're like this will make some money.

Speaker 1:

No, because here's like Dungeons and Dragons Honor Among Thieves came out, phenomenal film, absolutely great movie. Didn't make enough money and they just scrapped sequel plans. They just scrapped the show. I don't know if you heard they were going to do a show spinoff. Scrapped that, I mean, and it's great, it's genuinely good. It just you know if it doesn't make money.

Speaker 2:

It's gone. We're going to shift into a similar. Let's continue this discussion.

Speaker 1:

Okay Thunder.

Speaker 2:

Dragons great. Everybody loved it. It didn't make the money. It's going to be a cult hit forever. Everyone's going to love it forever. Everyone's gonna love it forever. Everybody. You know what are we watching. They're gonna buy. Everybody in this movie's gonna get drinks bought for them for the rest of their existence yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, I buy it right now I was watching this one.

Speaker 2:

It was like a lawyer guy and this other lawyer was in this case and the judge threw him in jail for contempt. Oh, and it was the most bogus thing ever. And the one lawyer was saying that that lawyer will drink forever on this story.

Speaker 1:

because it's such a good story? Because the judge being an asshole and being completely wrong.

Speaker 2:

Dungeons and Dragons is a movie that everyone on that movie is going to drink forever for free because it's so good. I started watching Fall Guy, okay, uh-oh. I started watching Fall Guy. Okay, uh-oh, it is not. Did you watch Fall Guy? Oh, yeah, we've seen Fall Guy. Yeah, it's okay. Yeah, it's okay. It's not like Dungeons and Dragons, you're just like. I mean, I understand why it didn't do. Well, because if I went and saw that movie and somebody asked me, I'd be like wait for the video.

Speaker 2:

Wait for the VOD, as they say, there's no reason to see this movie in the theater. I mean he's great, but the plot is he is great. It's not a good plot. It's not the right plot. The stakes are really, really dumb. It's not a good movie. It's the stakes are really, really dumb. Um, they're just, it's not. It's not a good movie, it's not a bad movie, but it's, it's you know. So you can't say you know cause bad boys four came out and made all the money in the world, right.

Speaker 1:

I and I still haven't seen it, but I want to.

Speaker 2:

And you know, I bet you when you see that you're going to go see a bad boys movie and bad boys movies are exactly what they are, and just like fast and furious movies are exactly what they are. Bring it up, but I love those movies and that's fine, those movies, but but fall guy didn't give you one of those movies, it just gave you a movie that you're like I'm not excited I don't hate the filmmakers but I'm not excited about that movie at all Sure, yeah, yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2:

And you can. You know we could do Fall Guy. I consider that we could do Fall Guy on here, oh fuck, I don't want to because I don't want to pick it apart, but it's just like I can explain to you why that's not a good movie. I can explain to you why that's not a good movie and why it fails. Why it fails multiple tests that a good movie should pass Sure, and it's like this movie. This movie fails all sorts of tests, but it's not a bad movie. No.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a great father's day movie.

Speaker 2:

Happy father's day. Anything else you want to say about this movie?

Speaker 1:

Nah, nah, this one's. You know I'm going to forget it tomorrow. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

This is an infinitely forgettable movie.

Speaker 1:

It's just gone, which is fine, totally fine. I'll still think about Blank Check every day of my life.

Speaker 2:

There you go, Blank Check. That said something to you. This movie should have had Tony crying.

Speaker 1:

Should have had me crying, should have had me wishing I was this kid with a cool dad, you know.

Speaker 2:

Tony dreams of the prison, dad.

Speaker 1:

I would love to have a prison dad. Bad ass man.

Speaker 2:

And now we're talking about something we like. This week we're watching the second season of this cop drama, blue Lights, which is like a BBC thing. I don't know where we're watching it. You know one of those things. Just really nice ensemble, you know.

Speaker 1:

Ensemble.

Speaker 2:

They make classic American TV shows over there in England, sure, which they don't make them here anymore, so it's like a Hill Street. Blues kind of you know where it's just a bunch of characters and they're going through things and there's romances and there's danger and there's drug dealers. Great, you know, you watch the procedurals now and it's just like I tried to watch Hawaii Five-0, you know, maybe a year or two ago and it's just like I tried to watch hawaii 50 you know, maybe a year or two ago, and it's just like sure.

Speaker 1:

It's just like everything is overblown and you're like oh well, I mean, and then on the other side of you have tracker where everything is the opposite, everything's like there's nothing. But which one? I still watch it. Which one's tracker is justin hartley? He, uh, he finds people and things you know. No wait, I don't know that's the.

Speaker 2:

That was the one that came out a while ago no, it just came.

Speaker 1:

This was the first year just ended. Jensen ackles played the brother for one episode and it was incredible okay, but it's not good no, it's not a good show. It's not a good show. I watch it because I love justin hartley, but every time I watch it, we just, we just make fun of it because we're like, well, this is pretty stupid, but we love it.

Speaker 2:

I'm thinking of the Finder. Was that that show?

Speaker 1:

Oh, the Finder was good that was a good show. That was a spin-off of Bones, and that was a delightful show. And that only got one season I was very disappointed in that.

Speaker 2:

You know, a show packed with characters and interactions that are all very interesting and the quests were all sort of interesting, but the Hawaii Five-0 mold that we're living in right now just not for me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's not great. People love it so that's fine.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's fine. I'll just go watch my BBC shows.

Speaker 1:

And be in BBC shows and being BBC shows. What do you got for us, tony? Well, you're going to hate my answer, but Love Island UK and Love Island USA Are back for their summer seasons. It's too much TV, but it is delightful. Terrible, terrible people, it's just trashy. It's funny to watch both of them at the same time because the uk people, while it is trashy tv, they're not terrible people, sure, but then you watch the usa ones you're like these are garbage people doing garbage things and it just, it just shows you how much worse we are as a people.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, which is fun, because I love that. It's very fun at least how we cast reality shows yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, of course that's it's a generalization, but yeah, I mean these, it's some trashy, trashy people we're watching the british goggle box and danny dyer and danny dyer the daughter were both on there yeah, you know, absolutely there they are, she was she was not maybe the sharpest tool in the toolbox no, no, for sure not, but she was sweet, you know at least on love island. You know she was.

Speaker 2:

She seemed very sweet yeah they're a genuine person, they're very and their relationship's very sweet on. You know it. Okay, you can tell he would rip off a person's head or arm.

Speaker 1:

Which he could do.

Speaker 2:

I would not want to be that guy that wronged her.

Speaker 1:

No sir.

Speaker 2:

So, since you made us watch a terrible kids movie, yes. A slightly terrible kids movie. I'm going to make us watch another kids movie. Why not Double down? You know what I'm going to make us watch another kids movie.

Speaker 1:

Why not Double down?

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm going to do for you, Tony. What are you going?

Speaker 1:

to do for me.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to sit here in front of the computer and watch a Pixar movie.

Speaker 1:

Oh boy, oh boy. This is good. What are we watching? Come on.

Speaker 2:

Give it to me. You know, if you're going to watch a Pixar movie, you got to watch one that's probably going to be pretty terrible. Okay, You're going to have to watch one about one of the least appealing characters ever created, Buzz Lightyear the movie Lightyear.

Speaker 1:

Oh, we didn't see this. I don't even know why it just came and went. We never saw it. Okay, I'm very excited about this.

Speaker 2:

You know it's like their live action animated reboot of Buzz. It's his real life or something, Something.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's like a space ranger Right.

Speaker 2:

So it's not a toy. Yeah, I don't know. It's going to be really weird.

Speaker 1:

Well, I'm excited Because who someone is. But is it Chris Evans? That's Buzz Lightyear, I don't know. It's somebody famous that I enjoy a lot.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm surprised it's going to be somebody famous, somebody famous and somebody handsome.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's Chris Evans. He's playing Buzz Lightyear. Yeah, I'm very excited, which is weird to think because tim allen and chris evans not really similar in how they do things, so I'm intrigued it's gonna be you know, I think it's gonna be like one of those movies you're watching.

Speaker 2:

You're just like what are the decisions? Why did they make this?

Speaker 1:

why did we do this? I think that's gonna be the big question is why? Why are we doing this right now? How?

Speaker 2:

is. You know? I think it's gonna one of those. Why did a bunch of middle-aged men think who did they think this was going to appeal to? I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Well, we're going to find out.

Speaker 2:

I'm ready. So that's the show. If you like what you see, give us a thumbs up, subscribe or maybe even leave a comment. If you made it this far, you love us.

Speaker 1:

If we had stickers, I'd give you a sticker, a gold star sticker, for sticking around this long.

Speaker 2:

Now, did you have stickers when you were a kid in school?

Speaker 1:

No, we had grades, Dan, but did you have stickers too?

Speaker 2:

No, we didn't have stickers. We put the stickers on the little chart and the more stickers you got meant something.

Speaker 1:

Not that I'm aware of, or I just never got any stickers.

Speaker 2:

That could be. I have the feeling that's probably why my life is what it is, with those stickers.

Speaker 1:

Because you got too many stickers or you didn't get enough stickers.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I got a lot of stickers. Yeah, oh, I got a lot of stickers. You're probably just blocking it out because you didn't get the stickers.

Speaker 1:

I didn't get any stickers, so I just hated everyone that got stickers. That's probably what happened, but I couldn't tell you. The mind is a wonderful thing, Dan.

Speaker 2:

Especially when you have one. Whoa, why don't you call me old and you'll feel better, tony.

Speaker 1:

I can't, because now you've told me to do it. It's not going to have the same impact as it usually does. I'll get you next week Dan.

Speaker 2:

And what was the number that I was supposed to remember?

Speaker 1:

I was just going to say yeah, what's the number, Dan, Tell me. Come on, you're supposed to know it. I'm going to guess.

Speaker 2:

I'm thinking 84 or 74. Those are my guesses. Well, you gotta pick one. I think it's 84.

Speaker 1:

It is 74, you senile old man Nailed it. Bye everybody, bye everybody.